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I agree. I intentionally played off of Nero. I thought he was obvtown and even pointed it out at one point.Get to know a Drixx - Recently Updated!- Zachstralkita
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In post 2074, Desperado wrote:In post 2072, Drixx wrote:Desperado ... if I had stayed V/LA and not come in and posted at all, do you think I would still have survived day one, or was it me showing up and taking advantage of you getting called out (along with me) for lurking and you immediately pushing me as being scummy? Obviously I knew you weren't scum but if you don't immediately show up after being called out and see that I was also called out and thus try and push me, I never have any ammo to push you. It was that and coming back the next day that allowed me to maneuver out of day one. Like just re-read the reactions people had when you came around the next day and tried to push me a 2nd time. That's where I got out of the rope.
I saw in the dead thread that you're a little burned out. I know that feeling. I
at the time i didn't regret getting lynched because it was pretty obvious that scum spent a lot of energy getting me dead and i thought that would give nero and zach and dunn some clarity. obviously that didn't happen but blaming it on nero is misguided imo
He claimed a result and role he didn't have either to spite me or because I was really, really scum to him. He confirmed a day pr which wasn't the issue. He said he had a JOaT and 4 weird 1shots, one of which was a JK
He said be attempted to neighborize A50 Except I tracked him to nowhere so day 2 was spent pushing Nero/considering a roleblocker that wasn't there and suspecting A50/Tywin. Scum literally had to do nothing
And this didn't get explained at all until post game. I thought he was scum for lying about his role and he did for no real reason
Neros not getting blame for any of the "general" reasons town loss. If he suspected 4 scum then he knew his lynch would end the game. Still the selfvote is sort of understandable but his fake claim was like a decent bolster for scum IMO
It can't really be denied that if we flipped Nero Day 1 we'd have been way better cause most of the central townies had good reads. But one or more of them scumread Nero and because of the way Nero was playing some people thought "well he has to be right on tywin" it ended up being a mislynch which didn't make him look any betterbut I thought we had enough MLs to sort Nero too
I spent too much time confbiased on him clearly and he did too focusing on Tywin and I. The fact that we MADE the game that also contributed to scum winning. We only focused on certain things and a lot of them were unnecessary. Sling and RM just chilled the whole game cause we didn't look at them as focally- Zachstralkita
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six townies voted drixx d1 but we couldn't lynch him because all a 4 man team has to do in a mini is not buss and they're basically guaranteed to winIn post 2054, Nero Cain wrote:Towns real failing is not getting Drixx lynched d1.- Bins
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IMO a good town should recognize when a wagon is not going to lynch because it is a scum wagon and no one is busing and those who want the lynch should pressure those who don't want it as to why they don't want it and try to convince them it is a good wagon and threaten "you're scum who won't bus" sorts of thingsIn post 2070, Desperado wrote:
six townies voted drixx d1 but we couldn't lynch him because all a 4 man team has to do in a mini is not buss and they're basically guaranteed to winIn post 2054, Nero Cain wrote:Towns real failing is not getting Drixx lynched d1.
if town is successful and achieves the lynch it REALLY exposes the scumbuddies and can be hugely damning for scum - I try to set the swing in my games to favor those who are actually playing wellbalance among all things- drealmerz7
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I would enjoy playing with you in a drealmerz game.In post 2071, Alisae wrote:I kinda...
Want to play in a drealmerz game now...
If he would let me that is.
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You had too many scum. There will always be dissent in a town. Town will be wrong on occasion.In post 2081, drealmerz7 wrote:
IMO a good town should recognize when a wagon is not going to lynch because it is a scum wagon and no one is busing and those who want the lynch should pressure those who don't want it as to why they don't want it and try to convince them it is a good wagon and threaten "you're scum who won't bus" sorts of thingsIn post 2070, Desperado wrote:
six townies voted drixx d1 but we couldn't lynch him because all a 4 man team has to do in a mini is not buss and they're basically guaranteed to winIn post 2054, Nero Cain wrote:Towns real failing is not getting Drixx lynched d1.
if town is successful and achieves the lynch it REALLY exposes the scumbuddies and can be hugely damning for scum - I try to set the swing in my games to favor those who are actually playing well
If you do have 4 scum, they cannot be unified.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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okIn post 2081, drealmerz7 wrote:IMO a good town should recognize when a wagon is not going to lynch because it is a scum wagon and no one is busing and those who want the lynch should pressure those who don't want it as to why they don't want it and try to convince them it is a good wagon and threaten "you're scum who won't bus" sorts of things
i don't think i've ever seen something like this actually play out tho. it's definitely not how i think about scumhunting.- Titus
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In post 2085, Desperado wrote:
okIn post 2081, drealmerz7 wrote:IMO a good town should recognize when a wagon is not going to lynch because it is a scum wagon and no one is busing and those who want the lynch should pressure those who don't want it as to why they don't want it and try to convince them it is a good wagon and threaten "you're scum who won't bus" sorts of things
i don't think i've ever seen something like this actually play out tho. it's definitely not how i think about scumhunting.
It's not how good town view it. They think maybe I am wrong and start talking things out. I think drealmerz is making excuses for too many scum.
That being said Drixx was still super scary good.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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of course you think I'm making excuses instead of actually trying to explain myself / what I think
but my statement actually holds true to what I think regardless of how many scum there are - a good town should recognize that at least potentially why a wagon is not going to lynch is because it is a scum wagon and scum aren't busing for whatever reason, and this is actually something that is EASIER to do if there are more scum because 1.) it is more likely to happen and 2.) when it happens the associations, as I said, can be damning if scum is not careful
I would have preferred this to be a 14-15p game, actually, but for some dumb reason the mini-queue is 10-13 (giving only 4 different player # amounts) and the large theme is 14-99 (giving 85 different player # amounts) - if this had run at 12p I would have only had 3 scum, I believe I already stated (in the observer thread maybe?) that it was an experiment to do 9v4 and see how it went and I've already explained why I think it is mostly okay as is - town needs to play better in order to win, it's pretty simple, and if they had, they could have, and I don't think anyone would argue against that ?
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Well, I am keeping my comments to the game, so *shrug*In post 2089, Zachstralkita wrote:can you guys not grr at each other there's really no needShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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On my phone so keeping this brief but fwiw
9:4 without a full copis ridiculously scum sided. I get that mod probably looked at it as an extra scum to offset the pgos but you shouldn't assume you know how things Will play out.
That said the pgos claiming made it even easier. I think dunn is right that pgos should claim ascetic...he should have stuck to that. If anyone here knitted how to update thewiki that would be good info.
Nero made it easier yet. Don't make the game about yourself. You posted way too much. Sometimes as town you need to back off even if it means your own lynch.
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Well, I am keeping my comments to the game, so *shrug*In post 2089, Zachstralkita wrote:can you guys not grr at each other there's really no need
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scum still have reason to kill an asceticIn post 2095, drealmerz7 wrote:again, PGOs claiming seems utterly pointless and boring - why would you even put them in the game if you think they're just going to get claimed out of the gate? claiming unprovoked just helps scum
claiming ascetic early seems equally as pointless and boringvonflare (21:40)
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