Mini 1918: Paint Mafia Threequel! Game Over!

[Cheetory6]

Paint Mafia Threequel!

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Rules and Guidelines
Mafia FAQ

Playerlist

:
i) Titus

PenguinPower

Gamma Emerald

ii) Aristophanes
iii) Fro99er
iv) Raya36
v) TwoFace
vi) Varsoon
vii) Apricity
viii) Havo
ix) Bomberman
x) Infinity 324
xi) aptil
xii) jjh927
xiii) MaxwellPuckett

Spoiler: Living

Varsoon - Mafia Goon

Spoiler: Deaded

TwoFace - Mafia Goon

Infinity 324 - Town Modified Jailer

Raya36 - Vanilla Townie

jjh927 - Vanilla Townie

aptil - Mafia Goon

Fro99er - Town Primary Colour Cop

Titus - Vanilla Townie

Havo - Vanilla Townie

Apricity - Vanilla Townie

MaxwellPuckett - Vanilla Townie

Bomberman - Vanilla Townie

Aristophanes - Vanilla Townie

General Rules

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i) The first day cycle will last six days, followed by five. Night cycles will last one day.

ii) Each player is assigned a colour. The standard colour for town is blue. The standard colour for groupscum is red.

iii.1) The first three IRL days of the first cycle will be the Reveal Phase, in which players can vote to reveal the colour of another player in the game, ending when the deadline is reached or a player is hammered.
iii.2) Day two and onwards, the Reveal Phase will only last for two IRL days.
iii.3) The remaining time after either a hammer or the deadline is reached will be used for the Flip Phase, in which players can vote to lynch another player in the game.

iv.1) Softprods will go out every 24 hours and hard prods will go out 24 hours after that. Three hard prods and you're outta here!
iv.2) If you know you're going to be very busy during a period of time, I suggest finding a replacement. I don't mind VLA when it's needed, but don't abuse the system, especially in a game as fast paced as this should be!

v) Don't touch

#0040FF

. It's my colour. I'll fight you.

vi) No Bah posts.

vii) If anything is unclear, ask. The site rules cover more than I ever could. Ignorance isn't an excuse to break rules.

viii) DON'T BE A JERK. Mafia can get heated. I will remind you to tone it down if it's going in a direction that I feel is toxic. I'm not afraid to hunt for replacements either c:

ix) There will be only one groupscum faction.

x) The groupscum faction will have daytalk during the Flip Phase.

xi) A paint drawing will accompany every player's death in the game.

Hello

Cheetory6!

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You are a

Vanilla Townie

and you are currently

Blue

.
You have your voice, your vote and your colour!
You win when all players with anti-town win conditions have been removed from the game and at least one town player is alive.
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[Cheetory6]

PMs are out!
The game will start when 12/13 have confirmed or in (expired on 2017-06-11 09:00:00).

[Cheetory6]

VoteCount 1.00

Not Voting [13]:

Apricity, aptil, Aristophanes, Bomberman, Fro99er, Gamma Emerald, Havo, Infinity324, jjh927, MaxwellPuckett, Raya36, TwoFace, Varsoon

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to flip someone's colour. You have (expired on 2017-06-14 09:00:00) to do so.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
Last blitz I played with him he was mafia so he's probably mafia here. Sheep me.

[TwoFace]

There was no need for the mod to insult us like that...

[Aristophanes]

Ermagerd Prnt!!!!

[Aristophanes]

There was no need for the mod to insult us like that...

VOTE: TwoFace

Never question the all powerful Cheetory!

Ya nerd

[Cheetory6]

TwoFace sent me a PM asking me to let you all know that he accepts his identity as a nerd.
Not really sure why!

[TwoFace]

That made me lol

[Aristophanes]

TwoFace sent me a PM asking me to let you all know that he accepts his identity as a nerd.
Not really sure why!

<3

UNVOTE:

I'm glad we got that out of the way

[Gamma Emerald]

Guys I'm really confident Gamma Emerald is mafia vote him

[Aristophanes]

*shrugs*

Okay!

VOTE: Gemerald

[Aristophanes]

Oh, and inb4 theory talk about flips...

Just fucking do it! No point worrying about who is flipped, especially D1!

[jjh927]

VOTE: Gamma

Sure.

[Fro99er]

No Bah posts.

Bah

[Cheetory6]

[TwoFace]

Your artwork is on point

[Gamma Emerald]

EH this shtick is kinda stale at this point
UNVOTE:
Aristo and jj early townreads.

[Bomberman]

Vote: TwoFace

Stuff this nerd into a locker

[Havo]

What's up peoples?

vote: Varsoon

Because he's not Varlater.

[aptil]

Hello !! Playing here after a long time.My main reason to play this game was the shorter deadline.Don't really understand the mechanics of this game so if anyone is around and can link to an earlier game would be great(i'm going to search myself right now).

[Varsoon]

Hello !! Playing here after a long time.My main reason to play this game was the shorter deadline.Don't really understand the mechanics of this game so if anyone is around and can link to an earlier game would be great(i'm going to search myself right now).

I was a part of the review crew for the first game.
When we start the game, players are either the color BLUE or the color RED. Some roles might change this, like a miller-type role could start RED or YELLOW or something. But you really shouldn't worry too much about that as of the start of the game, unless it gets claimed.
Town players start out as BLUE.
Mafia players start out as RED.
As the game goes on, different roles/abilities will be able to change these colors and interact with them.

At the start of each day phase, we get to vote on a PUBLIC REVEAL of a player's CURRENT color.
So that means, barring role shenanigans, on day 1, this is pretty much like PUBLICLY CONFIRMING a player's alignment.
As the game goes on, this system will become less and less reliable and more and more of an asset for scum to drive mislynches and rely on town trust to move attention from them.

The way you should take this is:
If a player is ever revealed to be RED, lynch them. Unless you know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they somehow 'became' red because of a role/ability, there's no reason to EVER take a chance on not lynching a player revealed to be RED.

This isn't so much true with trusting a player who is shown to be BLUE, however. In the first game, Mafia couldn't become Blue (as far as I recall), but that doesn't make it so in this one. That said, I would still trust BLUE = TOWN for this first color flip.

TL;DR:
Each day we get to vote to see someone's current color.
RED colored players are almost certainly scum and should be lynched.
BLUE colored players are very likely town.
As the game goes on, this becomes far less reliable except for the RED = SCUM part.


VOTE: Twoface
Not just because he gets a drawing, but also because I'm curious why Aristo joined and fell off after the drawing.

[Gamma Emerald]

Explanation of why I townread Ari and jj
I'd figure scum wouldn't want to just let someone get confirmed by their own will, they'd control who got confirmed

[Aristophanes]

Hello !! Playing here after a long time.My main reason to play this game was the shorter deadline.Don't really understand the mechanics of this game so if anyone is around and can link to an earlier game would be great(i'm going to search myself right now).

Both games should be in mine or Cheet's egos if you go to them and search for Paint

[Varsoon]

Just went back to make sure--in the first game, the scum team could paint a player blue once per game and had infinite uses of painting a player red, green, orange, yellow, black, white and purple. There was also a mechanic revolving around 'freshly' painted players where several roles could figure out if a player had just had their color changed.

Cheetory didn't like the 'bastard' elements of painting a player red/blue and also didn't like how some role interactions could allow town a very easy victory (one player could check what the total color of players were of each color at night and another could remove one player from that check, essentially letting town, if coordinated, color-check players each night as well as each day).

The second game was scaled down to a 13 player setup and the 'wet paint' mechanic was removed. Town roles were made more direct/straightforward, too and scum power was taken down a whole lot. In that game, the mafia could only paint players as Black, white, red, orange, green, yellow or purple.


So, why bring all this up?

I was thinking about my first post here and started to recall that scum could paint players a lot of different colors, then realized that in the first game they could even paint players red and blue. In the design topic for the game, I recall telling Cheetory that I thought Mafia might, outside of gambits, only paint players blue/red because that's most effective at throwing a wrench into town strategies based on public mechanics.

While it's clear that between game 1 and 2, Cheetory removed painting players blue, the ability to paint them red stayed in.

That said, I would still trust that Red = Scum unless we have any provable role-claims that can show us otherwise.

And for D1, Red definitely equals scum and Blue definitely equals town.

Just flip the script here from what I said previously:

BLUE players are very, very likely CONFIRMED TOWN unless someone can prove that players can change others blue.
RED players are likely to be CONFIRMED SCUM in the EARLY GAME but we can't rely on that as much moving forward.
Again, this is somewhat speculative, as Cheetory could've changed some core things between the second game and this one, but
I do NOT see Cheetory giving Mafia the ability to paint players blue, since he really didn't like how much that could skew things in scum's favor in the first game and was essentially 'bastard'.