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Post Post #2100 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:45 pm

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That's also why I couldn't No-Kill or kill Aristo on the last night;
Max would be too liable to second-guess his continued survival and change the script with a vote on me.
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Post Post #2101 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:09 pm

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Holy shit Maxwell had a fantastic pick for the death scene
I totally get it
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Post Post #2102 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:19 pm

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I did what I could and it just wasn't enough. I take this loss with humility regardless if my reads were seemingly correct. The fact of the matter is that reads mean nothing if you can't do anything about them, and I didn't do enough.
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Post Post #2103 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:31 pm

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Yeah--I was trying my best to come from as legitimate a place as I could regarding absences and poor town performance. I knew that my play (votes, positioning, etc) looked better than yours, but for the last few days of the game I was really coming from a place of genuine frustration with people and hoping that it'd come off as town rhetoric.

Regardless, you're right: You can know who the entire scum team is, but if you can't convince other people to lynch them, it's no use. People often focus so much on what they can do to find scum and don't cultivate enough of a game presence to rally town onto those lynches.
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Post Post #2104 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:33 pm

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I really wish people listened to me and I'm a bit bitter about that fact, but it's my fault for not being convincing enough. It's my fault for not assuming leadership regardless if it doesn't bode with my playstyle. I dunno if it would've helped but sitting in frustration and contempt over the state of the game probably didn't help.
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Post Post #2105 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:34 pm

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You played better than me at the end of the day so I'm not too mad, it was going to be a tough argument and I took a chance trying to convince aristo with something a bit less unorthodox.
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Post Post #2106 (ISO) » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:38 pm

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Exactly that.

Taking early initiative can go a long way.
Just look at this game. By stepping up and not backing down from the Two-Face lynch and reminding people to stay on it when they were going to ditch for other wagons, both Fro99er and myself were pretty cemented as town worth following. You see this repeated again when Fro99er made the hard push for the Gamma flip. Obviously, yielding worthwhile and tangible results to town works best in your favor, but charting a plan of action and sticking to it and being clear about it typically provides a deal of transparency while also making the waves you need to succeed.

P-EDIT:
There were several times where I would type something, only to back away and not make a response.
You were 100% right that I was waiting out on time and not putting down content--Aristo was already where I needed him, why chance that with more content that might change his mind?
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Post Post #2107 (ISO) » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:25 am

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Good game. I was thinking about the kill choice yesterday but in the end it worked out so that's great.
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Post Post #2108 (ISO) » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:53 am

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In post 2100, Varsoon wrote:That's also why I couldn't No-Kill or kill Aristo on the last night;
Max would be too liable to second-guess his continued survival and change the script with a vote on me.
As soon as I voted Bomber and left i regretted it. I thought Varsoon had to be scum then, but i was already with no internet and then was killed. You def made the right call.
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Post Post #2109 (ISO) » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:56 am

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Yeah, you had me pocketed all game!
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Post Post #2110 (ISO) » Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:23 am

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In post 2101, Gamma Emerald wrote:Holy shit Maxwell had a fantastic pick for the death scene
I totally get it
Im treasuring this drawing, Cheet
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Post Post #2111 (ISO) » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:45 am

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Almost forgot. Thanks Chetts for the game . Loved the flavour and mechanics would like to play this setup again for sure.
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Post Post #2112 (ISO) » Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:42 am

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In post 2108, MaxwellPuckett wrote:
In post 2100, Varsoon wrote:That's also why I couldn't No-Kill or kill Aristo on the last night;
Max would be too liable to second-guess his continued survival and change the script with a vote on me.
As soon as I voted Bomber and left i regretted it. I thought Varsoon had to be scum then, but i was already with no internet and then was killed. You def made the right call.
I'm glad I read that correctly. You didn't really seem to 'own' your Bomber vote and, if you, me, and Bomber were around for LYLO, you probably wouldn't stick to it.
Couple that with your growing paranoia of my slot and bomber's own casing relying heavily on building that paranoia, I figured I would have a worse chance in LYLO with you over Aristo.

That said, Aristo, I feel like you were playing a good game early on and did a ton of things that made you absolutely town--I expressed a lot of that in the thread. I think you'd probably benefit from being a bit more outwardly transparent about your reads and where you'd like to the game to go, while being a little more critical about everything.
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Post Post #2113 (ISO) » Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:44 am

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Was shakin' in my boots when we started rolling the replacements in, especially because then my whole 'Bus D1 and coast towncred' strategy falls apart for people who have a fresh set of eyes on everything and weren't there D1.
Titus immediately went after me, and it's lucky that I could write the Titus kill off as 'Scum killing conf-town' and not 'Scum killing the person leading a wagon on them'.
Even at the end, when Bomber was asking who pushed me, I neglected to mention Titus, because of that fear.
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Post Post #2114 (ISO) » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:09 am

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In post 2112, Varsoon wrote:That said, Aristo, I feel like you were playing a good game early on and did a ton of things that made you absolutely town--I expressed a lot of that in the thread. I think you'd probably benefit from being a bit more outwardly transparent about your reads and where you'd like to the game to go, while being a little more critical about everything.
I'll keep all of this in mind moving forward and am always happy to have feedback! Thanks man :)
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Post Post #2115 (ISO) » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:14 pm

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For instance, early on, I was trying to pin you as a mislynch by putting some pressure on you:
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However, when you were straightforward, answered me pretty quickly, and gave pretty solid rationale for the actions you were taking, there was no way I could push a scumread on you there for reasons that I typically scumread people. That's when I realized that you were coming from a town PoV and, if I were town, would probably have started townreading you--so I decided to do that as scum and hope that an early townread on you (from a logical place/actual interaction) would help to buddy you.

I think if you had more places where, as you made a play, you explained why you were playing the way you were, then more people would townread you and follow you early on.

With everything, it's a balancing act. Explain too much and people will peg you for overexplaining and seeming like you need to constantly 'justify' your play. I think you were doing well on D1, where you were playing in a way that made sense to you, but when questioned, you could actually back up your play because it was all coming from an informed, town place, rather than just being random votes or flimsy posturing.
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Post Post #2116 (ISO) » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:54 pm

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Bomber's death scene:

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Post Post #2117 (ISO) » Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:04 pm

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Sorry I poisoned your fries, Bomber!!!
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