Mini 1992 - One-Shot Mafia - GAME OVER


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Post Post #2650 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:44 pm

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Yeah not sure what you could have done in that situation.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #2651 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:07 pm

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3 of my favorite newbies played in this game.
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Post Post #2652 (ISO) » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:08 pm

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In post 2649, Iconeum wrote:How was I supposed to counter his 'mechanically cleared town'? This is an honest question, actually. If anyone cares to answer, that would be great.
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Post Post #2653 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:52 am

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In post 2649, Iconeum wrote:I had a great time this game, first time replacing in on this forum. Glad I caught scum when I came in, but I'm still surprised how little townpoints I got for lynching profii.

Sure, I could have gone stronger last day but what was I to do? I had both Kokichi and UT as town on the previous day, I wasn't even sure it was Kokichi until I voted and saw his reactions.
How was I supposed to counter his 'mechanically cleared town'? This is an honest question, actually. If anyone cares to answer, that would be great.

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check his claims!

Sadly its a lot of work and a bit dull but you should have gone back and check all the shit he was claiming.
irst of all.

1. There is no way I could have made the kill. Seeing as I had my action the night with 1 scum left. One mafia has the ability that makes them do both at the same time. Another wouldn't have the same.

1a. Also another mafia has a passing ability which would make it very unlikely that I as scum would be able to get an ability that allows me to have either ability.

2. I used my watcher shot and its confirmed by you, bastion and Not-Mafia that I used it that night. Mafia had a permanent Watcher/Tracker role. Which would make it very unlikely that they would be given a 1 shot watcher as well. I was close to counter claiming Bambi, as his role with mine made no sense. Because his would basically just be a beefed up version of my role.


1/2. The only proof he had done the watcher action the night he claimed to watch on that night was him himself claiming he did that action. There was nothing proving he was doing. Yes town couldnt have possibly guessed that scum had such a power to see all actions but they could have deduced that koki claiming they did the night action that night was not true. He could have easily had something on NM from any of the prior nights when he had partners.

1a. His claim of close to counter claiming bambi is horseshit, if anyone had bothered to revisit day 1 and reread the events around bambi's lynch you would have seen there was no truth to it. The Bambi wagon was close to falling apart when everyone got into an argument over who should hammer and some players were clearly pushing for us to lynch elsewhere, it took me prodding Mollie to get things back on track and that was pages and pages after Bambi had made his claim.

The only claim he had a leg to stand on was that it was strange for scum to have 2 watchers, but the truth is he didnt need to be a watcher, nothing in his claim confirmed he was a watcher. There are other roles, we knew passives existed
3. If you look at the way Mulch/Fissure tried to discredit me at every corner and kept saying I should be liability lynched. it's pretty clear we are not teamed. But, I guess that's just seeing it from my view.
Again thats bs that could have been checked by doing an ISO of the mulch/fissure/profii along side koki slot. It's particular frustrating because you quoted Profii's reads list earlier in your posts and he blatantly kept Koki off his reads list. He talked about every other player still alive that day except for Koki in his reads list. That's a massive red flag.

The difference between koki's claims and UT's claims was that UT was backed up by a town player (penguin confirmed he gave him fruit) and the flip gave a 100% confirmed process for the process of the fruit showing that UT was without question town.


Koki very skillfully (regardless of what Mulch thinks) convinced town players not to look closely at his claims and that is how he won. He played the mechanics in his favour.
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I don't honestly think Sir Bastion is a PR, he's too outspoken for it. But he's also a pain in the ass.
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Post Post #2654 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:05 am

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There’s no doubt that kokichi did well. Very impressive at the end
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Post Post #2655 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:18 am

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In post 2653, Sir Bastion wrote:The only proof he had done the watcher action the night he claimed to watch on that night was him himself claiming he did that action. There was nothing proving he was doing.
Yeah. But, that's impossible to guess as Ico. Since you confirmed it. Not_Mafia confirmed it. And UT had me visiting Mollie that night as well. So no reason to think otherwise
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #2656 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:40 am

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and also the mod said "lol you can't use more than one action a night"
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Post Post #2657 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:53 am

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In post 2656, Untrod Tripod wrote:and also the mod said "lol you can't use more than one action a night"
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Post Post #2658 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:10 am

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In post 2655, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 2653, Sir Bastion wrote:The only proof he had done the watcher action the night he claimed to watch on that night was him himself claiming he did that action. There was nothing proving he was doing.
Yeah. But, that's impossible to guess as Ico. Since you confirmed it. Not_Mafia confirmed it. And UT had me visiting Mollie that night as well. So no reason to think otherwise

How could any of us confirm it? We couldn't confirm anything. None of us had the power to confirm anything.

We just had you confirm your claim. I'm sorry that's two very different things. We had you claim because we were waiting on a report from ut on your movement. It didn't confirm anything.

Like I said your claims could have been dismantled but it needed town to go back and do the legwork. It would have been long and boring and judging by how you reacted to me on day 2 when I started doing it I would assume you would have fought it every step of the way.


But if you want to win that's what you need to do.
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I don't honestly think Sir Bastion is a PR, he's too outspoken for it. But he's also a pain in the ass.
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Post Post #2659 (ISO) » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:29 pm

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In post 2580, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2579, Kokichi Oma wrote:I think his mistake was clearing you last night by killing penguin. I think his plan was going to push you, now has to change it.
Explain to me how I set up UT as a target for today? Why would I have killed Penguin, on whom I already had a case built earlier this game?
There was never any discussion about this. If UT waited with hammer and engaged on this, maybe we could have figured it out. But it's Always easy looking back.
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Post Post #2660 (ISO) » Wed May 16, 2018 3:49 pm

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Congratulations to the victors!


The game has drawn to a close, the jig is up! Some of you have lost, but others have won!

Take a few days, think about the game. Recognize what was best in your teammates and opponents, and consider nominating them for a Scummy! Players and mods in this game may be eligible for one of the following awards:


BODY OF WORK AWARDS

Best Mafia Catcher
: Also known as the Paragon of Mafia Hunters, this award is given to the single town player who, across all of their games for the year, exhibited the best ability for nailing those dirty scumbags and bringing the bad guys to justice while playing as a pro-town role.
Rising Star
: This award is given to the player that is a rising star in the game of mafia, showing great promise to join the elite echelon of mafia players. This award replaces both the Best Newbie award and Most Improved Player awards, and judges may consider elements of both those previous awards in deciding this award.
Excellent Moderation
: Also known as the “The Modfather” Award. This award is given to the moderator who, over the course of the past year, exemplifies the best qualities of a moderator in the operation of the game, including but not limited to quality and frequency of vote counts, organization of the game, dealing with issues that arise, keeping players active, and so forth. Judges may consider how challenging the games a moderator ran were, but they shall not penalize a moderator for only running more basic games. A mod must run at least 3 games to completion in the calendar year to be considered for this award.
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Most Cunning Manipulator
: Also known as the “Don Corleone” Award. Awarded to the player who has the strongest single game performance as mafia. In rare cases, where a player feels an entire scumteam gelled to create a strong cohesive scum performance, multiple members of a team may be nominated.
Best Performance Third Party
: Also known as the “Hannibal Lecter” Award. Awarded to the player or players that performed the most impressively in winning their game as a third party.
Most Memorable Event
: Also known as the “Kodak Moment” Award. Awarded to the player or players who were involved in the most memorable event in a game of mafia. Fake claims, funny claims, awesome exchanges, etc. may all be considered for this award
SINGLE GAME - MODERATOR

Best Setup
: Also known as the “Rube Goldberg” Award. Given to the moderator who designed the best setup. Judges may consider the roles involved in a game, how those roles interacted, how balanced a setup was, whether it furthered any particular theme, how the setup interacts with a mechanic, or any other factors the judges deem relevant. This award is distinct, however, from the “Best Mechanic” award in that it does not consider how good or bad any change to the basic way a Mafia game is played.
Best Flavor Text
: Also known as the “Paperback Writer” Award. Given to the moderator who wrote the most compelling flavor text. Judges should consider the flavor text of all parts of the game, including Role PMs and Day/Night scenes. Where appropriate, Judges may consider how well the flavor works with the announced theme.
Best Mechanic/Mutation
: Also known as the "Mad Scientist” Award. Given to the moderator who figured out the most compelling way to change the basic mechanics of the game of mafia, and/or created the most compelling new role or adaptation to increase player enjoyment. Judges shall consider both the basic idea behind the game as well as how well it was executed, and the uniqueness and quality of the role/adaptation.
SITE AWARDS

Game of the Year
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