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And thank you tonnes xyzzy for hosting. I am really really liking the Echo Bay narrative.- vonflare
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so some thoughts from me on balance:
first, I didn't get this game reviewed, so if it's unbalanced, whoops that's my fault. my goal was to create a setup where the mafia had things to do besides just killing, but where the vast majority of their power came from the premise behind the setup. I viewed being a mafia neighbor as strictly a negative utility role, because even though it's mod WIFOM, it's still information that 2 townies have that the mafia doesn't really benefit that much from. additionally, I felt that the watcher is effectively only capable of finding the doctor; while it's possible that they could've found the other power roles by watching the right folks, it wouldn't have actually had any effect since they were 1-shot roles. I didn't anticipate something like being able to confirm that the kill wasn't prevented by a roleblocker, which is a neat side effect of how that role worked in this setup, so I felt that any result of "no one else targeted that player" was basically just the absence of information.
I think the fact that the cop 1)didn't use their power night 1, 2)fake claimed a negative utility role day 2, and 3)immediately requested replacement and got lynched probably hurt the town's chances a lot. that's a lot of potential town advantage thrown away.
if I were to run this again, here are some changes I might make: first, make one of the neighbors a neighborhood-exclusive innocent child (so everyone in the neighborhood receives explicit confirmation that this player is town, but no one outside gets that info). that makes sussing out who in the neighborhood might be mafia MUCH easier and also makes it harder for the mafia to kill either neighbor without the mafia neighbor looking suspicious to the other neighbor. second, I'd probably add 1-2 more 1-shot roles to the town. third, I might add another powerful town role that is also an enabled role in some way -- either tie it to the enabler that already exists in the setup or perhaps do something like have the role continue to function as long as all 3 mafia members are still alive.
despite the scum sided nature of the setup, though, I think in practice the premise of having a deadline for the game as a whole like this worked out really well. it's probably not necessary to get quite as granular as having it be down to the minute, but I'd love to see other experimentation with the format.
I'll release private topics including the 22-page mafia topic (!) in a bit.
also look forward to my next game, Echo Bay Grits SEO, coming to the large theme queue in uhhhhhhh however long it takes me to fill out the thing to join the queue!- the worst
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That's ok, I hardscumread you laterIn post 1276, vonflare wrote:sorry worst i rly thought u were sucm
Kinda just wanted to jam w/ you about profii....in hindsight it seems kinda obvious you were town...I am a derp
I didn't approach it the right way, I reckon next time we're both town we'll probs be more in sync- the worst
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When you originally mentioned it in sitecat, this is what hooked me. The idea is so so cool.In post 1277, xyzzy wrote:despite the scum sided nature of the setup, though, I think in practice the premise of having a deadline for the game as a whole like this worked out really well. it's probably not necessary to get quite as granular as having it be down to the minute, but I'd love to see other experimentation with the format.
The concept was scum sided sure but I think town was just seriously outplayed here. We had plenty of power to turn this around but some really bad decisions (including me being a lazy scumy butt) lost it for us.
Ftr re dead thread--I think I was a fair vig target. I was just surprised it happened after the hood soft. Von/I seemed to resolve each other at some point.- Lovebird
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You're awesome Chicka<3In post 1282, Chickadee wrote:My reads were garbage.
But it's been pointed out by several people that most people think I'm garbage at this game anyway.
Scum were 11/10 this game, no joke.- Chickadee
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Aw thanks TW <3In post 1283, the worst wrote:
You're awesome Chicka<3In post 1282, Chickadee wrote:My reads were garbage.
But it's been pointed out by several people that most people think I'm garbage at this game anyway.
Scum were 11/10 this game, no joke.Instagram: BoneSpellArts
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But no more vigging me!!- Chickadee
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I feel like whenever I say this, the person turns out to be scum. I'm just going to stop using this train of thought. Had Nero, but Profil played very well. Played different from when we were scum together, so that's why I didn't scumread him much.In post 949, Kokichi Oma wrote:Asuka is just bad town, I believe.How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.- Chickadee
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How I got away with being L-1 I do not know
If you look in my ISO I specifically asked for Vons opinion on the matter as he was largely afk at the time and hadn’t really got involved
I only did it because at the time the hood hadn’t been outed, but between me / Von / Worst I’m sure they knew why I specifically wanted Von to pitch in
Somehow that started a counter wagon and I got away with it
But you guys were not far away. I would imagine if you hit one of our scum team, you’d of had essentially 2 innos and then picked out associatives I would have thought
Close but no cigar. Puppy power eh- Nero Cain
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y is there no dead thread yet?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit- profii
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There was no dead thread.In post 1293, Nero Cain wrote:y is there no dead thread yet?
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