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I had the right ideaIn post 3248, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:yeah that didn't help me see very clearly but i had started day 3 with suspicion jingle might not be town. it was just hard to let it go. the more things didn't add up the more it became clear which is why i kind of backed off pun later in the day and agreed to cop jingle.
I had Gork pegged and was already skeptical of Jingle again. I don't think it would've been impossible to convince you Gork was scum because you had already noticed the signs he was scum, just didn't connect it with scum dots specifically; Jingle would've been the biggest not-necessarily-town read for PoE and just exploring that would've probably outed a lot of the stuff that indicated Jingle-scum earlier.- EspeciallyTheLies
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mmIn post 3251, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:i'm sorry! we need more games together. i have a hard time reading you
it's kind of hard to explain how to best read me, I know very well the differences between how I think as alignments, but not as much how they show up to other people
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tbf, everything I said related to why I was town was basically true.In post 3253, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:the fact that jjh flipped scum meant my reads were off and you were probably town. no way the last scum hard pushes his buddy to lynch for two days.
I'm not a bad planner as scum, I'd need a very good reason to push A50 to the grave like that as scum. That doesn't exist unless I'm saving my other buddy from being lynched, and Titus had just gotten cop cleared immediately afterwards. And... well, as Jingle said, I was pretty blatantly attaching myself to Nosferatu, so that would've been a massive risk for a batch of towncred that isn't enough to endgame before people start wondering why I'm not dead yet.- EspeciallyTheLies
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After the end of every game, a Scummies announcement is posted. I'm PRETTY sure the town won this one, which would make "the scum have lost" be the appropriate announcement, yes?In post 3260, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:pedit ???- EspeciallyTheLies
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To think that's just on this account. When you throw in my two prior accounts...In post 3264, Ankamius wrote:congrats on 6666 posts mastina
22706 posts, across ~2776 days (if I did my math right), out of 9889944 posts, giving me 8.179394812680115 posts/day and 0.2295867398238049% of the board's total posts altogether.
Of course, that ignores alts and hydra, which would bump it up even more, but fuck no I'm not compiling all of those.- AnonymousGhost
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My contribution was almost nothing to this game~In post 3240, Creature wrote:Yey a free win- Jingle
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FTR, I almost never shoot ETL (it's actually a REALLY good argument for me to be town if she dies), the setup spec was definitely the correct choice for town given specifically the 6/5 investigation split because that meant we more likely than not had random cop deaths on L1 and N1 (which I neglected to mention because mentioning that had the potential to take OTM off of their setup spec tunnel which was causing a lot of the confusion/dysfunction in the thread), and I kind of shot myself in foot by defending A50 instead of bussing.
Ank was definitely the scariest member of the town, and her replacement was the beginning of the end for us, because that's when I started losing control of the thread.
The nightkills were pretty simple. Ging was a wildcard without much presence and with less lynchability. Killing there kept all of the big 1v1s alive, didn't throw suspicion on any member of my team and did have the chance of making someone push pun (yeah, I knew about the Ging pun relationship going into the game.)
Ank didn't die because that was as good as hanging a sign around gork's neck reading "LYNCH HERE!" Additionally, I was fairly confident in my ability to get the townread from her. SGBA on the other hand was no longer providing and background noise I could hide behind, tn can be a scary fuck, and 23 people is a lot of eyes that could choose to take a look at the thread and screw me. Of course, only like 4 of the people in the hydra were likely to do so, but...
The last nightkill really didn't matter too much. I had to kill in the conftown and the people who had previously investigated people as scum, to keep the odds of getting an accurate result on me minimal. My only hope at that point was lynching both pun and eddie, an uphill battle to say the least, and insane luck on the cop end of the spectrum. Basically though, I knew I was fucked when A50 flipped. At that point, I was the perfect bus target for gork/jjh, but neither of them really had the desire to push the thread around or the position to take the game over.
I could not have NOT argued correct townplay in this game. Both ETL and pun would have lynched me D1 for it. The goal was pretty much always to get enough towncred to burn on a mislynch and then let town kill me, inserting paranoia into all of the plans I laid, which were just vague enough to allow town to misunderstand and accidentally screw themselves over.
Further, Eddie/pun and OTM/Titus/SGBA all needed to stay alive as long as possible to keep the town from organizing around anyone other than me.
Also, worth noting is that Eddie's logic on me (BoP) was hilariously bad, but fighting back on it would have been counterproductive. I loltunnel town in pretty much every game I've ever played. Basically, my scumreads are easily the worst part of my townplay. My townreads are really only worth their salt when I've done extensive research into the player in question. I may have read a bunch of your games (I will neither confirm nor deny that I have ,) but you were never the target of my meta-ing.
Oh. And I outright lied about my tell on Mulch being an Elli tell. We did discuss his play briefly in the modchat, but I compiled my reasoning there all on my own. The thing that he did that made him locktown in this game, FWIW, is agree to drop his plan to outpost the hydra early. Mulch thinks that spamposting to demoralize town is a good scum strategy, and he had a legitimate excuse to do so. Letting that drop in order to work with a townread and let said townread pull together other players was possibly the most town thing he could possibly do, when one considers that he had absolutely no pressure to do so other than a single request and no reason to believe it would make townJingle certain he was town.
I feel like there are other things I could go over in regard to this game, but nothing springs to mind. The tl;dr of it is despite the fact that various members of the town did play very well, I feel that Ank was quite clearly the town MVP here. Well done, and congrats on the winThis is a Parachute.- Cheetory6
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Sure.In post 3238, Ankamius wrote:Punreader
I go into your identity a bit in my private pt
Do you want me to ask mhsmith to blank those references before having it released?Let me give an Alternative perspective.- OnTheMark
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It’s kinda sad I couldn’t really comment as I felt using it either way would be cheating but you trying to push me for backup and I couldn’t remember actually mad me look at your slot.In post 3267, Jingle wrote:FTR, I almost never shoot ETL (it's actually a REALLY good argument for me to be town if she dies), the setup spec was definitely the correct choice for town given specifically the 6/5 investigation split because that meant we more likely than not had random cop deaths on L1 and N1 (which I neglected to mention because mentioning that had the potential to take OTM off of their setup spec tunnel which was causing a lot of the confusion/dysfunction in the thread), and I kind of shot myself in foot by defending A50 instead of bussing.
Ank was definitely the scariest member of the town, and her replacement was the beginning of the end for us, because that's when I started losing control of the thread.
The nightkills were pretty simple. Ging was a wildcard without much presence and with less lynchability. Killing there kept all of the big 1v1s alive, didn't throw suspicion on any member of my team and did have the chance of making someone push pun (yeah, I knew about the Ging pun relationship going into the game.)
Ank didn't die because that was as good as hanging a sign around gork's neck reading "LYNCH HERE!" Additionally, I was fairly confident in my ability to get the townread from her. SGBA on the other hand was no longer providing and background noise I could hide behind, tn can be a scary fuck, and 23 people is a lot of eyes that could choose to take a look at the thread and screw me. Of course, only like 4 of the people in the hydra were likely to do so, but...
The last nightkill really didn't matter too much. I had to kill in the conftown and the people who had previously investigated people as scum, to keep the odds of getting an accurate result on me minimal. My only hope at that point was lynching both pun and eddie, an uphill battle to say the least, and insane luck on the cop end of the spectrum. Basically though, I knew I was fucked when A50 flipped. At that point, I was the perfect bus target for gork/jjh, but neither of them really had the desire to push the thread around or the position to take the game over.
I could not have NOT argued correct townplay in this game. Both ETL and pun would have lynched me D1 for it. The goal was pretty much always to get enough towncred to burn on a mislynch and then let town kill me, inserting paranoia into all of the plans I laid, which were just vague enough to allow town to misunderstand and accidentally screw themselves over.
Further, Eddie/pun and OTM/Titus/SGBA all needed to stay alive as long as possible to keep the town from organizing around anyone other than me.
Also, worth noting is that Eddie's logic on me (BoP) was hilariously bad, but fighting back on it would have been counterproductive. I loltunnel town in pretty much every game I've ever played. Basically, my scumreads are easily the worst part of my townplay. My townreads are really only worth their salt when I've done extensive research into the player in question. I may have read a bunch of your games (I will neither confirm nor deny that I have ,) but you were never the target of my meta-ing.
Oh. And I outright lied about my tell on Mulch being an Elli tell. We did discuss his play briefly in the modchat, but I compiled my reasoning there all on my own. The thing that he did that made him locktown in this game, FWIW, is agree to drop his plan to outpost the hydra early. Mulch thinks that spamposting to demoralize town is a good scum strategy, and he had a legitimate excuse to do so. Letting that drop in order to work with a townread and let said townread pull together other players was possibly the most town thing he could possibly do, when one considers that he had absolutely no pressure to do so other than a single request and no reason to believe it would make townJingle certain he was town.
I feel like there are other things I could go over in regard to this game, but nothing springs to mind. The tl;dr of it is despite the fact that various members of the town did play very well, I feel that Ank was quite clearly the town MVP here. Well done, and congrats on the win- OnTheMark
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still doesnt mattwr bruh. you had garbage reasons that did NOT at all sound like the genuine town jungle I've spectsted. BoP isnt just having a wrong read, its the arguments. those were not townie genuine loltunnelling. also, the night kills had to be from someone who didnt want to stir the thread up.In post 3267, Jingle wrote:Also, worth noting is that Eddie's logic on me (BoP) was hilariously bad, but fighting back on it would have been counterproductive. I loltunnel town in pretty much every game I've ever played. Basically, my scumreads are easily the worst part of my townplay. My townreads are really only worth their salt when I've done extensive research into the player in question. I may have read a bunch of your games (I will neither confirm nor deny that I have ,) but you were never the target of my meta-ing"Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site" - Eddie Cane
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