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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:00 am
by Wisdom
In post 969, dramonic wrote:Explain to me how is it protown from your pov to lynch people you have no guarantee of scum over a guaranteed scumflip, just to save your ass and that of your townreads.
Because it's still a guaranteed scumflip
If Pine flips town Riku is scum
And all of group 3 is scummier than Kokichi and Bu
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:00 am
by Wisdom
Mafia isnt probabilities
Its reading people
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:00 am
by REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
the guilty doesnt magically get invalidated tomorrow so if for some fucking reason riku/pine isn't scum then we can further narrow it down to bu/wisdom/kok
but me and wisdom strongly believe that the scum lies in riku/pine
how fucking hard is it to understand
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:01 am
by Wisdom
In post 969, dramonic wrote:When you have a cop guilty, you don't ignore it, especially when you can lynch the cop and the guilty in the same play. It literally covers all bases.
I am not ignoring it, it's still there if Pine flips town
And I dont care to lynch the cop when I have a cop guilty.
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:02 am
by SirCakez
In post 964, Wisdom wrote:cakez you feel like you agree with whatever
i dont see you having a strong opinion about anything
Eh this is somewhat true, this is a tough game.
I do have strong scum reads on the pool of pine, fitz, realmen and strong town reads on Buj, gal, Muffin, dram, koki, you. Eddie, DV, Riku is my waffle pool.
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:02 am
by REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
by sheer probability group 2 has 1 scum in it WITH OR WITHOUT KOKICHI'S GUILTY
so what? would your actions change? who gives a flying fuck dude. we would still play normally because the cards are already set. it shouldnt change anything
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:02 am
by SirCakez
I'm p sure dram vs wisdom and realmen is not going anywhere productive.
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:03 am
by REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
blind lynching group 2 would have netted us 1 scum anyway in the first place.
would you have advocated doing that based on probability?
somehow when the probability is now 100% its perfectly okay to blind lynch group 2
okay
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:04 am
by Wisdom
cakez, realmen is town here. What he's saying is what I'm thinking.
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:05 am
by REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
i dont think cakez is town so i dont really care what he says
in the EVENT that cakez and dramonic and muffin is all town however ( = group 3 all town) we will have a problem
too bad i dont think thats the case
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:06 am
by REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
and in THAT event we can take a long hard look at group 1
it's not so bad considering that we have a good path given all the information we gained from today
somehow those wankers who want to lynch group 2 seem perfectly OKAY with throwing all that information away!
just to lynch 1 scum
gee
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:07 am
by REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
i wonder what it takes to lynch 1 scum
maybe closing my eyes and choosing a random partition would help
i guess thats what this game is about! playing probabilities and not considering day play! shoulda used an RNG for that!
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:08 am
by Wisdom
In post 983, Wisdom wrote:cakez, realmen is town here. What he's saying is what I'm thinking.
nvm I keep getting paranoid about this
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:08 am
by Wisdom
its like realmen is trying to stroke my ego here and get on my good side
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:09 am
by REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
see i dont believe muffin is that stupid or obtuse so i actually think he might be scum here
he is perfectly capable of writing everything he has said so far in his ISO, just take a look at my scum tier list
here let me bring it up again
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:09 am
by REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
In post 116, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote: In post 109, Wisdom wrote:2 has Pine in addition to me
2 has one more person to account for scum losing members
Certain if not most people in this playerlist probably don't have much experience with zmuffin
2 is better than 3
scum tier list:
muffinman --> wisdom -----------------------------------------> pine
who's accounting for what?
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:10 am
by REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
In post 988, Wisdom wrote:its like realmen is trying to stroke my ego here and get on my good side
its too fucking bad you're wrong more often than not so you dont get people agreeing with you very often
must be a novel experience i know
you'll get used to it
i think
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:10 am
by Wisdom
im not wrong more often than not
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:11 am
by dramonic
In post 975, Wisdom wrote: In post 969, dramonic wrote:Explain to me how is it protown from your pov to lynch people you have no guarantee of scum over a guaranteed scumflip, just to save your ass and that of your townreads.
Because it's still a guaranteed scumflip
If Pine flips town Riku is scum
And all of group 3 is scummier than Kokichi and Bu
Neither Riku nor Pine is guaranteed to be scum. You just paint whatever bullshit you want in a color you see fit.
Mafia is about using the information you get to lynch the scum. You are trying to reduce the information we have. Nobody cares about your reads.
In post 977, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:the guilty doesnt magically get invalidated tomorrow so if for some fucking reason riku/pine isn't scum then we can further narrow it down to bu/wisdom/kok
but me and wisdom strongly believe that the scum lies in riku/pine
how fucking hard is it to understand
That takes several days. We could rule out the entire thing in 1 single lynch.
In post 978, Wisdom wrote: In post 969, dramonic wrote:When you have a cop guilty, you don't ignore it, especially when you can lynch the cop and the guilty in the same play. It literally covers all bases.
I am not ignoring it, it's still there if Pine flips town
And I dont care to lynch the cop when I have a cop guilty.
Pine's alignment is irrelevant to the situation.
In post 980, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:
by sheer probability group 2 has 1 scum in it WITH OR WITHOUT KOKICHI'S GUILTY
so what? would your actions change? who gives a flying fuck dude. we would still play normally because the cards are already set. it shouldnt change anything
I would be lynching group 1 if there wasn't a guilty on the table.
Not necessarely.
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:11 am
by dramonic
In post 986, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:i wonder what it takes to lynch 1 scum
maybe closing my eyes and choosing a random partition would help
i guess thats what this game is about! playing probabilities and not considering day play! shoulda used an RNG for that!
That's what you're trying to do by swapping.
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:11 am
by Wisdom
i want you to flip, realmen, sorry
it's not natural for you to agree with me so much
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:12 am
by REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
well honestly that came off a bit harsh and im sorry i said that
but i think you have more reason to be paranoid about muffinMAN than a REAL MAN
though i did place myself higher on the tier list than muffin...
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:12 am
by REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
In post 995, Wisdom wrote:i want you to flip, realmen, sorry
it's not natural for you to agree with me so much
i feel ya
its not natural for anyone to agree with wisdom so much
please kill me
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:15 am
by Wisdom
Swapping Pine for dram as it is. Probably in a few hours.
Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 5:16 am
by REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
if dram is scum you cucked yourself
if pine is town you cucked yourself double
proceed
