Mini 2017: Encore Mafia - Now Without Cults [Endgame]


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Mini 2017: Encore Mafia - Now Without Cults [Endgame]

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:32 am

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Reviewer: Faraday
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Players (13)
  1. Awoo
  2. BulletNLynchproof
  3. Errantparabola
  4. Espeonage
  5. implosion
  6. Kokichi Oma
  7. mastina
  8. mutantdevle
  9. Gamma Emerald
    Ms Marangal

  10. Myloninja13
  11. Pine
  12. the worst
    Srceenplay

  13. Wisdom
Spoiler: Alive
  1. mastina, Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin, Mafia Encryptor from Star Wars Rogue One, Survived Day 7
Spoiler: Dead

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Rules | Setup | D1 Start | D1 Lynch | D2 Lynch | D3 Lynch | D4 Lynch | D5 Lynch | D6 Lynch | D7 Lynch
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:35 am

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2)
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4)
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Do not reveal any information or otherwise post once you're dead.
5) I reserve the right to change or add rules, and will inform the players of this.
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6)
Inform me by PM if you see a mod error or instance of a rule being broken.


Activity Requirements

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Please keep low-quality game-irrelevant posting to a minimum. If a large number of posts are irrelevant, it impacts other players and potential replacements. Multiposting is okay. Multiposting without substance to rack up your post count or claim a page top is not okay.

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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:14 am

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  • Each player receives the same Role PM (or a slightly modified version of one) that they have received in a past game on MafiaScum. This means that only Role PMs that were posted somewhere on the site (the game thread, PTs, quicktopics, etc.) will be used. Sample role PMs posted by the mod may be included if they appear to be identical to what the player received. Marathon Games, games replaced out of, or games that were not played on the account the player signed up under will also not be used. If a Role PM is only accessible by downloadable archive (due to the 2011 crash), it will not be used.
  • For Town-aligned players, the following win condition will be added to or replace text in the original Role PM:
    Win Condition:
    You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and at least one Town player is alive.
  • For Mafia-aligned players, the following win condition will be added to or replace text in the original Role PM:
    Win Condition:
    You win when Mafia makes up at least 50% of the living players and nothing can prevent that from changing.
  • Mafia may not perform a factional nightkill in addition to any other active abilities. This will be standardized.
  • Each player will have the following text in their role PM:
    Please confirm your understanding of your role and the rules by responding to this Role PM with your alignment. The Encore Mafia game thread is here.
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Spoiler: Sample VT
Original Version
"Mom?" Candy said again.

She was close enough now to be able to hear her mother’s soft rhythmic breathing. Was she asleep? Moving very cautiously, so as not to wake her, she took a step around the chair. The sight of her mother’s face made Candy want to cry. Melissa looked so weary, so drained. Her eyes were closed, her mouth turned down, her freckled brow marked by a deep frown.

"Candy?" she murmured in her sleep. "Is that you?"

Her eyes wandered back and forth beneath her blue-veined lids as though attempting to make sense of some dreamed sight or other. The sorrowful expression on her mother’s face made Candy want to turn away. But when she did so, she found her mother standing just a few yards away from her, in the middle of the unkempt lawn. Confused, Candy looked back at the woman sleeping in the rusted chair, and again at her mother’s twin.

"I don’t get it,” Candy said. “Why are there two of you?"

"One dreaming, one awake," Melissa said, as though it was the easiest idea in the world. "I’m over in that chair, dreaming. And I guess you’re somewhere else too, asleep."

"So we’re meeting each other in our dreams?" Candy said.

Melissa nodded. "It’s so good to see you, honey," she said.


You are
Melissa Quackenbush, the Dreamer.
You've spent your entire life in the Hereafter and know virtually nothing about the Abarat. But you've heard fragments - Candy herself has talked to you in her dreams. And now you're at the Council of the Mind. Day? Night? You don't know about these factions at all. What you do know is that you're on your daughers side, forever and always. Your dreaming self will do what it can in this world it doesn't understand. After all, your daughter is counting on you.

You are
Day
aligned. You win when all living players are
Day
aligned and at least one
Day
aligned player is currently alive. Please confirm by responding to this PM with your role name.
Encore Version
"Mom?" Candy said again.

She was close enough now to be able to hear her mother’s soft rhythmic breathing. Was she asleep? Moving very cautiously, so as not to wake her, she took a step around the chair. The sight of her mother’s face made Candy want to cry. Melissa looked so weary, so drained. Her eyes were closed, her mouth turned down, her freckled brow marked by a deep frown.

"Candy?" she murmured in her sleep. "Is that you?"

Her eyes wandered back and forth beneath her blue-veined lids as though attempting to make sense of some dreamed sight or other. The sorrowful expression on her mother’s face made Candy want to turn away. But when she did so, she found her mother standing just a few yards away from her, in the middle of the unkempt lawn. Confused, Candy looked back at the woman sleeping in the rusted chair, and again at her mother’s twin.

"I don’t get it,” Candy said. “Why are there two of you?"

"One dreaming, one awake," Melissa said, as though it was the easiest idea in the world. "I’m over in that chair, dreaming. And I guess you’re somewhere else too, asleep."

"So we’re meeting each other in our dreams?" Candy said.

Melissa nodded. "It’s so good to see you, honey," she said.


You are
Melissa Quackenbush, the Dreamer
, a Vanilla Townie from Abarat: Days of Magic, Nights of War Mafia. You've spent your entire life in the Hereafter and know virtually nothing about the Abarat. But you've heard fragments - Candy herself has talked to you in her dreams. And now you're at the Council of the Mind. Day? Night? You don't know about these factions at all. What you do know is that you're on your daughers side, forever and always. Your dreaming self will do what it can in this world it doesn't understand. After all, your daughter is counting on you.

You are
Day
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Spoiler: Sample Mafia Goon
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Welcome to
Wicked
Mafia, Osseus pseudotripodis. You are the
Wizard
. You were a traveling salesman who had an affair with Elphaba’s mother, and ended up having a green child. You’re not a very nice guy even though you’re
wonderful
. You’ve taken away the Animal’s right to speech, you pretend to have magical powers you don’t have, and you’re fine with having people commit murder to make sure you stay in power.

You have the following abilities:

You are a member of the
mafia
. Your partners are
Dorothy Gale (Malakittens)
and
Madame Morrible (Ghakotaca)
. You may talk with your fellow evil partners in this qt at night. Each night, you and your partners can target one player to kill. You must designate which of you will commit the kill. As long as nothing interferes, your target will die.

Unfortunately, the man behind the machine has no other abilities besides conspiring to murder the good people of Oz. Feel free to sing and dance though!

You know that the names Brother Frexspar the Godly, and Chistery are guaranteed to not be in the game.

Win Condition
: You win when your faction makes up more than 50% of the votes, and nothing can prevent this from changing.
Encore Version
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Welcome to
Wicked
Mafia
, Osseus pseudotripodis. You are the
Wizard
, a Mafia Goon. You were a traveling salesman who had an affair with Elphaba’s mother, and ended up having a green child. You’re not a very nice guy even though you’re
wonderful
. You’ve taken away the Animal’s right to speech, you pretend to have magical powers you don’t have, and you’re fine with having people commit murder to make sure you stay in power.

You have the following abilities:

You are a member of the
mafia
. Your partners are
High Priest of Mr. Flay (Faraday)
and
Mafia Roleblocker (KittyMo)
. You may talk with your fellow evil partners in this pt at night and pregame. Each night, you and your partners can target one player to kill. You must designate which of you will commit the kill. As long as nothing interferes, your target will die.

Unfortunately, the man behind the machine has no other abilities besides conspiring to murder the good people of Oz. Feel free to sing and dance though!

Win Condition:
You win when Mafia makes up at least 50% of the living players and nothing can prevent that from changing. Please confirm your understanding of your role and the rules by responding to this Role PM with your alignment. The Encore Mafia game thread is here.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:18 am

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Role PMs have been sent. (The first time I tried to I had a BSOD incident, but second time's the charm!)

There will be a minimum of a 24 hour period
((expired on 2018-06-17 10:33:55))
between role PMs being sent out and when the thread is unlocked for the start of Day 1. After 48 hours or 11 players have confirmed, whichever is faster, Day 1 will commence.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:33 am

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With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch!

Deadline is at (expired on 2018-07-01 13:30:00)
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:38 am

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VOTE: Ms Marangal

Let’s lynch obvscum this time
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:40 am

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Also do you guys think it’ll be a good idea to list all roles you ever had? I’m not sure how useful this will be though.
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:18 am

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too many to list, they're in my wiki though

VOTE: mara
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:22 am

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Obv scum before I even post?

Ouch, talk about a hit to my ego.

Also, I am against it. It won't serve town any purpose and it makes it easier for scum to figure out which of their old roles would make a good fake claim.

Can tell you what I'm not! I'm not the Pokemon that chkflip gave me with all the cool JoaT powers
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Cabd: trolling mara is everyone's TRUE wincon

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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:28 am

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I proposed it because I deduced that it won't help scum as they can easily collate the list of all such roles at Night. I believe they would be hardworking enough to generate that list.

But if you're against it then fine with me.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:40 am

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I have never rolled town PR. I think signing up for this game was an antitown move.

I hardclaim VT.

VOTE: Espeonage
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:46 am

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In post 6, BNL wrote:Also do you guys think it’ll be a good idea to list all roles you ever had? I’m not sure how useful this will be though.
In post 9, BNL wrote:I proposed it because I deduced that it won't help scum as they can easily collate the list of all such roles at Night. I believe they would be hardworking enough to generate that list.

But if you're against it then fine with me.
I'd fully expect scum to collect such a list but I don't see any point in helping them with that or doing the work for them. If anyone has a role that would benefit from knowing everyone else's potential role then they should collect the list themselves.

Also, since this is
probably
a PR heavy game, I'd like to request that
no one crumb their role
, scum will spot it and they WILL kill you for it. Anyone who feels like their role is useless should feel free to drop a fake crumb though if they want to bite a night kill :P. But of course, don't be so obvious about it that it's
too
obvious.

Also, if anyone is a neighbouriser, I want in :3

Finally, VOTE: Srceenplay, I'll get you this time ;)

I think I have generated enough wifom in this post. This final line in of itself furthers that wifom.
I mostly just lurk now.
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:10 am

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Phoneposting, so can't do my normal town town scum scum thing, link to stuff, go into detail yet, etc., but.
VOTE: Awoo.
Others posting are town/town?, will give details when home.
Also, will'crumb later (it's a video, so can't breadcrumb right now), but my wiki page is fairly up to date and my past roles are all there.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:54 am

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VOTE: marangal
I got my favorite role.
did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!

Today's modern mafia consumer demands dozens, nay, hundreds of roles that are vanilla cops.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:06 am

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In post 12, mastina wrote:Also, will'crumb later (it's a video, so can't breadcrumb right now), but my wiki page is fairly up to date and my past roles are all there.
Alright, so the detailed version: my wiki page is
slightly
out-of-date, but I'm fairly confident there are no completed games unlisted on there. (Though, there are games that are listed as ongoing which have since completed.)
Excluding alts/hydras as they aren't eligible, I have had the following roles in games that are classified as completed:
  • Vanilla Townie 5 times
  • Neighborizer 2.5 times (Second game was not JUST a neighborizer)
    *1

  • Doublevoter 1.5 times (Second game was not JUST a doublevoter)
    *1

  • Bodyguard 1.5 times (Second game was not JUST a Bodyguard)
    *1

  • Missile Silo 1 time (Note: could classify as either VT or Dayvig, but I am excluding it from those)
  • Mason 1 time
  • Inventor (of Rolecops) 1 time
  • Neighbor .5 times (Not JUST a Neighbor)
    *2

  • Hated .5 times (was not JUST hated)
    *1

  • JOAT .5 times (was not JUST JOAT)
    *1

  • Doctor .5 times (was not JUST Doctor)
    *1

  • Backup .5 times (was not JUST Backup)
    *1

  • Dayvig .5 times (was not JUST Dayvig)
    *1

  • Rolecop .5 times (was not JUST Rolecop)
    *2

  • Loved-maker/Lovederizer .5 times (was not JUST Loved-maker/Lovederizer)
    *2
  • Goon 2 times
  • Encryptor 1 time
  • Godfather 1 time
  • 1x Death Immune 1 time

Yes, that's actually a much smaller list than you'd think, but games from mastin2 don't count (yet alone, Mastin); games on alts (such as Usami) don't count, which presumably also rules out all-alt games (meaning I can't be Roxas's, House Dayne's, or Sayori's roles), and games on hydras don't count (which rules out basically over half of my games because most of my games are played on hydras especially minis as it turns out).

*1 = all of these were the same role; *2 = all of these were the same role, from a different game, btw.

As far as breadcrumbs, I'll actually give you three.
Spoiler: Incredibly Contrived, Convoluted Breadcrumb
So, my First Encounter with Markiplier was this video:

I quickly progressed to seeing him obsess over it with such moments as when he beat 4/20 mode...but I particularly loved seeing:

Now I bring this up, because this actually reminds me of some Newer content.
Specifically,

As for what this is a breadcrumb of...you'll neeeeeeeever find me. :P
For what it's worth, the second role hint (aka, my "incredibly generic doesn't-really-narrow-it-down hint) is that the game I am breadcrumbing has at least some bitter feelings from me involved.
The third and final hint?

I am quite aware that mutant said we shouldn't breadcrumb.

I am on record as saying that this role actually
should
be breadcrumbed. (I'm not sure if I have explained the theory behind why this role should be breadcrumbed, but I know for a 100% fact, on MULTIPLE occasions, I can and have stated this role absolutely should be breadcrumbed.) When I roleclaim, I can go into the theory as to why. (Or if I die before claiming, then I'll do the theory talk in the dead PT.)

NOW FOR THE NEXT PART.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:09 am

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In post 5, BNL wrote:VOTE: Ms Marangal
Let’s lynch obvscum this time
In post 7, Wisdom wrote:too many to list, they're in my wiki though
VOTE: mara
Town.
In post 8, Ms Marangal wrote:Obv scum before I even post?

Ouch, talk about a hit to my ego.

Also, I am against it. It won't serve town any purpose and it makes it easier for scum to figure out which of their old roles would make a good fake claim.

Can tell you what I'm not! I'm not the Pokemon that chkflip gave me with all the cool JoaT powers
In post 11, mutantdevle wrote:Finally, VOTE: Srceenplay, I'll get you this time ;)
In post 13, Errantparabola wrote:VOTE: marangal
I got my favorite role.
Town?
In post 10, Awoo wrote:I have never rolled town PR. I think signing up for this game was an antitown move.

I hardclaim VT.

VOTE: Espeonage
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:26 am

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NO IM NOT MAFIA
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:05 am

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In post 16, Awoo wrote:NO IM NOT MAFIA
Sure, you're Awoo instead.

:P
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:02 pm

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In post 11, mutantdevle wrote:Also, since this is probably a PR heavy game, I'd like to request that no one crumb their role, scum will spot it and they WILL kill you for it. Anyone who feels like their role is useless should feel free to drop a fake crumb though if they want to bite a night kill . But of course, don't be so obvious about it that it's too obvious.
This seems moderately scum.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:31 pm

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I think BNL's the only one I'm willing to call town so far.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:18 pm

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In post 15, mastina wrote:
In post 5, BNL wrote:VOTE: Ms Marangal
Let’s lynch obvscum this time
Town.
There's no way you're getting a townread off the first post in the game, especially an RVS vote.
In post 11, mutantdevle wrote:
In post 6, BNL wrote:Also do you guys think it’ll be a good idea to list all roles you ever had? I’m not sure how useful this will be though.
In post 9, BNL wrote:I proposed it because I deduced that it won't help scum as they can easily collate the list of all such roles at Night. I believe they would be hardworking enough to generate that list.

But if you're against it then fine with me.
I'd fully expect scum to collect such a list but I don't see any point in helping them with that or doing the work for them. If anyone has a role that would benefit from knowing everyone else's potential role then they should collect the list themselves.

Also, since this is
probably
a PR heavy game, I'd like to request that
no one crumb their role
, scum will spot it and they WILL kill you for it. Anyone who feels like their role is useless should feel free to drop a fake crumb though if they want to bite a night kill :P. But of course, don't be so obvious about it that it's
too
obvious.

Also, if anyone is a neighbouriser, I want in :3

Finally, VOTE: Srceenplay, I'll get you this time ;)

I think I have generated enough wifom in this post. This final line in of itself furthers that wifom.
I agree with the first paragraph.

I disagree with the second paragraph. I agree this is likely to be role madness, but this means crumbs are not as useful for scum as everyone is a role so PR wise it doesn't matter much who they kill.

I want to be in a neighbourhood as well :3


Also I'll end off by saying that Awoo is giving me lynchbait feels.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:25 pm

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In post 6, BNL wrote:Also do you guys think it’ll be a good idea to list all roles you ever had? I’m not sure how useful this will be though.
Part of the reason I suggested this is because I was thinking of certain roles that would be better if the rolepool of everyone is known. For example, Role Cop is almost a Cop this game. Though I am aware that because some players have hundreds of games it'll be difficult to generate that list and therefore it does help scum.
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I will also say I'm more than a little worried that mastina's opening looks an awful lot like something she could have planned to do if she got a scum role PM when she /inned for this game, with a specific role that she had planned to fakeclaim in mind.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:36 pm

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In post 20, BNL wrote:There's no way you're getting a townread off the first post in the game, especially an RVS vote.
Have we really not played together before?
You would not be making this post if we had ever played together, but I could have SWORN we've played together; I've seen you around a whole fuckload, yet this is something you absolutely should know about me if you have literally any experience with me.
In post 22, implosion wrote:I will also say I'm more than a little worried that mastina's opening looks an awful lot like something she could have planned to do if she got a scum role PM when she /inned for this game, with a specific role that she had planned to fakeclaim in mind.
I don't plan fakeclaims before I receive my role PM (I mean I
do
plan OPENERS before I receive my role PM but I don't plan CLAIMS before I do; planned claims comes AFTER), I don't fakeclaim as scum, and this is NOT a role I would fakeclaim.

Guarantee you.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:40 pm

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In post 23, mastina wrote:
In post 20, BNL wrote:There's no way you're getting a townread off the first post in the game, especially an RVS vote.
Have we really not played together before?
You would not be making this post if we had ever played together, but I could have SWORN we've played together; I've seen you around a whole fuckload, yet this is something you absolutely should know about me if you have literally any experience with me.
Iirc the only game I had with you under any of your accounts was on the fallout shelter. I was town, you were scum. You lurked D1, I got lynched D1, and then someone got a guilty on you N1.

Are you confusing me with someone else? I haven't been on Mafiascum between Feb 2017 and May 2018.
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