Mini 2019: Game Throwing UPick Game over!

[Dunnstral]

I mean wisdom seemed pretty obviously town once we started lynching scum left and right

[Gamma Emerald]

Stungun you're a fantastic player and I don't know how wisdom figured it out (eventually I'll read the past day...).

thanks, i appreciate that!

Why did you try to kill me though..........
Like, I was not a threat?

several reasons,

1). your post about sbg early on d2 about us making a comment scum might make was a bit threatening, 2). jailkeeper was in nauci’s hands so we had to account for a player that she would not jailkeep using it as a doctor or in trying to catch scum, since she was unclear with her intentions (smart move)! 3). your lynchwagon up to that point had never gained any steam... but oddly enough it would gain serious steam the next day phase even though you were the kill target the prior night. in fact, you were put to L-1. 4). your predecessor, mwnn, was very widely townread, which we thought might carry on with your slot if you kept your cards right. 5). we felt threatened by whatever power you might gain when put to L-1.

put that all together, and it is easy to see why we chose you. secondly, we did not attempt to kill you thereafter because there were better kill targets and we thought you might have some power protecting yourself until we figured out about your role and nm’s. well, i thought that anyway. i do not remember any of my scumpartners mentioning anything about what happened with that lack of kill that night phase with me... :-X

I see, fair
But I WAS AT L-1?!??!!? MARIA WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!?!?!!?!!????

[Dunnstral]

Who did you guys try to kill when there was no kill?

[Gamma Emerald]

Who did you guys try to kill when there was no kill?

He just said it was me

[Firebringer]

fb please be less selfish
it is by miracle i managed to ignore your stubborness and lynch the actual scum

2 things

First of all: I apologize on being stubborn on gamma lynch, you were right it was abt
Second of all I don’t think me keeping jailkeep was selfish and I explained the logic of keeping it and why that was more beneficial than giving it to you, and I stick to that choice because it was optimal play by myself

If you can argue why it wasn’t optimal play by my POV not from your POV than maybe we can reach a conclusion like that.

Like in my shoes would you have given up the jailkeep?

[Gamma Emerald]

fb please be less selfish
it is by miracle i managed to ignore your stubborness and lynch the actual scum

2 things

First of all: I apologize on being stubborn on gamma lynch, you were right it was abt
Second of all I don’t think me keeping jailkeep was selfish and I explained the logic of keeping it and why that was more beneficial than giving it to you, and I stick to that choice because it was optimal play by myself

If you can argue why it wasn’t optimal play by my POV not from your POV than maybe we can reach a conclusion like that.

Like in my shoes would you have given up the jailkeep?

Fypov keeping it was fine
But it would have likely gotten you Lynched, and if you failed to transfer at that point that game would have been lost right?
Do you see how that would be suboptimal play?

[Wisdom]

In your shoes I wouldn't have taken it to begin with

Again, it matters how other people view you

Whats the point in securing the jk if it makes people lynch you for doing it?

If you had towncred and you knew people can trust you, then sure

But you didnt

[Firebringer]

The people who didn’t view me as Town don’t even count for this tonwcred stuff
Scumbegone? Was scum.
Gamma? Not even playing the game

And you were townreading me till I took it


Don’t keep pushing the idea that it matters what everyone else was thinking of me, urs was pretty much only one that mattered and you decided “I don’t like this”

[Wisdom]

still when you saw youre being scumread for it you should have given it up

youd gain nothing if you were lynched

[BNL]

Firebringer once Wisdom was confirmed town by not hammering you had no reason to not give up the JK

[BNL]

There's also no reason to not give up the JK when someone intent to hammers you

[Firebringer]

Firebringer once Wisdom was confirmed town by not hammering you had no reason to not give up the JK

Your not analyzing this properly I think.

Listen if I give Wisdom the jailkeep there is high chance that no kill happens this causes issues
Because then wisdom goes into wifom battle of what scum did or didn’t do
If I had it then I am confirmed next day and we auto win

That’s plenty of reason to keep it.

There's also no reason to not give up the JK when someone intent to hammers you

There is.

[BNL]

If you were about to get hammered with the JK you might as well give it up

I think you’re overestimating what WIFOM does here

[BNL]

Oh actually, the argument is completely invalid because once we lynch, we get down to 3 people, and scum will kill because it gives them autowin

[Firebringer]

If I was lynched next day the game is over also

[Wisdom]

yeah but there was a chance for the game to end before that
While if you were lynched it was instawin for scum