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Post Post #2775 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:57 am

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In post 2769, Porkens wrote:This game was easy
Winning as scum is easy tbh
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Post Post #2776 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:57 am

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though, randing town will give you the more fun
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Post Post #2777 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:59 am

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In post 2719, Varsoon wrote:You no lynched when scum could've ended the game with 2 kills in LYLO
I don't want to hear your attempts at justifying that play.
How was Shoshin supposed to know that wasn’t optimal play without cheating
Get off her case with your exclusive knowledge
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Post Post #2778 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:59 am

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Once we got you out of the way yeah it was easier :)
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Post Post #2779 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:01 am

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In post 2745, Varsoon wrote:You helped keep town from mislynching but that doesn't mean you drove lynches on scum, which is what wins town the game.

Next time please focus on getting scum lynched.
That’s what she did.
Step the fuck off.
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Post Post #2780 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:02 am

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In post 2750, Varsoon wrote:I should've claimed the block outright at daystart but I thought that I'd have a better chance of catching more scum if I crumbed it and waited to see who was scumreading/townreading NSG before I dropped a hard guilty there.

This did work out in that we caught Gammagooey, but it backfired in that even when my NSG crumb got picked up, town went with a No Lynch over it.

I'm not saying NEVER NO LYNCH AT MYLO. I'm saying NEVER NO LYNCH IN A CLOSED SETUP.
As for potential risks, scum could have gotten another kill--that's not 'really really low'. That's literally 'game over'.
Yes, you shouldn't have trusted Nos, especially given how fickle they'd proven earlier in the game, but you had more leeway on Nos fucking around while in MYLO whereas you had none in LYLO.

I've been designing closed setups for 5 years now, Shoshin.
Can you just take my advice on that?
So... Town should never no lynch in a normal? Those are closed too.
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Post Post #2781 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:04 am

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Technically nolynching in general is stupid. If it actually helped town, scum would just nokill.
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Post Post #2782 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:05 am

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In post 2765, northsidegal wrote:in the interest of fairness to nos, he was just as right as everyone else was - having one correct scumread (me) and one incorrect one
That just makes his play worse tbh
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Post Post #2783 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:05 am

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Post Post #2784 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:12 am

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He scum read you and me right
How does he vote Shoshin from that in any scenario
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Post Post #2785 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:13 am

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Doesn't matter who people say they scumread. What matters is who you vote, and who you actively defend from getting lynched. .
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Post Post #2786 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:16 am

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Post Post #2787 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:17 am

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Nosferatu, stop throwing games
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Post Post #2788 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:32 am

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In post 2777, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2719, Varsoon wrote:You no lynched when scum could've ended the game with 2 kills in LYLO
I don't want to hear your attempts at justifying that play.
How was Shoshin supposed to know that wasn’t optimal play without cheating
Get off her case with your exclusive knowledge
I should specify in closed non-normal setups.
It's not even fucking exclusive knowledge
You're in a setup where
1. The Gacha reward is NOT SOMETHING YOU KNOW
2. The scum roles are NOT SOMETHING YOU KNOW
3. Scum has already confirmed to have had kills outside of their regular NK

There's no reason to no lynch in this MYLO situation considering those three points, period, ever.
You can hard defend Shoshin all you want but this is literally the truth.
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Post Post #2789 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:37 am

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In post 2718, Varsoon wrote:Nos played horribly but he's not sitting around in post trying to say his play is somehow vindicated.
yes.

I threw the game ~3 times, knowing that it was anti-town/scumsiding, just because I didn't want to deal with shoshin or whoever.
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Post Post #2790 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:37 am

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I guess that makes sense but you’re still being incredibly hard on someone who tried their best in all other cases.
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Post Post #2791 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:37 am

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In post 2779, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2745, Varsoon wrote:You helped keep town from mislynching but that doesn't mean you drove lynches on scum, which is what wins town the game.

Next time please focus on getting scum lynched.
That’s what she did.
Step the fuck off.
Driving the lynch on Gamma after he scumclaimed with his daykill doesn't really count.
Pushing hard for a no lynch over a lynch on confirmed scum is literally one of the factors that contributed to the scum win.
So I won't 'step the fuck off' because I'm not wrong here.
Shoshin should have had more confidence in the NSG scumread and pushed that over the no lynch.
That's what I'm saying here.

Apologies for coming down too hard about it.
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Post Post #2792 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:41 am

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In post 2674, Shoshin wrote:I won't play with Nos again. He spent the whole game calling me a bad player while exclusively pushing mislynches throughout, giving extra gold to scum, and doing nothing useful. My biggest mistake was trusting his townread on Pork when I shouldn't have.
I don't want to play with you again.

you refuse to admit responsibility of your bad plays.

Your ego is too big to admit that you did dumb shit all throughout the game and the you were scumsiding like 50% of the time.

At least when I throw or do something stupid, I'm ready to admit it.

I mislynched you knowing you were town because I didn't want to play with you anymore.

I won't join a game if you're the playerlist, so don't worry about having to avoid me. If you want to join a game that I've inned to, pm me and I'll leave.
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Post Post #2793 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:41 am

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Okay I’m glad you’re apologizing for how hard you’re being about it at least
Shows you’re not just irrationally blaming
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Post Post #2794 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:42 am

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@Nos I wanted this win and felt I had an avenue to reach it
You being spiteful ruined that
Tell me why you’re the one in the right?
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Post Post #2795 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:44 am

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I'm not. There's no moral justification for what I did.

I was selfish and spiteful.
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Post Post #2796 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:45 am

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I should have replaced out like d1
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Post Post #2797 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:46 am

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Porkens and northsidegal both declined the graphic novel, which means it's Gammagooey's! Gammagooey, send me your mailing address and I'll send it to you!
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Post Post #2798 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:47 am

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Don’t do it again then. I was earnestly trying to figure this game out, and your spite ruined that
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Post Post #2799 (ISO) » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:50 am

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In post 2798, Gamma Emerald wrote:Don’t do it again then. I was earnestly trying to figure this game out, and your spite ruined that
PEdit: I’m honestly willing to give you amnesty if you promise to not act in a method directly against your chances of winning from now on. I won’t blacklist you if you don’t but I’ll try to put a word in for you if you do that.
if im in a game with someone i dont like to interact with and they dont die n1

ill replace out instead of staying just to be a dick.
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