That last post was me explaining why I said this post.In post 1424, Flavor Leaf wrote:This isn’t necessarily true, as there could be multiple reasons for getting a no result.In post 1421, Kokichi Oma wrote:We could confirm who is roleblocker. Who charged someone n1?In post 1418, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hm...
Trying to think about whether this and Porken’s claim of blocked n1 help confirm each other
Who would be at risk from those people at the specific times?
A jailkeeper, for instance.
There could be a roleblocker.
And I don’t know why you assumed that Porkens was roleblocked without knowing who he targeted.
RC is a flipped commuter. That also would have given no result had that been targeted.
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GL porkens vaxIn post 1551, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Manatee - if you were actually just shot last night and not the killer, who’s the scum team for you?- Flavor Leaf
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Not gonna lie, I hate that you just happened to be here...In post 1552, ManateeDude wrote:
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I'm a doctor. I hit GL night one and have been trying to get charged again ever since.
I don't think it's too crazy that a town doc and jailkeeper can exist on the same town, but the scum would have to be really strong to balance that out given the other roles we've seen and I have my doubts that they are. Although Jailkeeper doesn't really make sense as a scum role in a one-team thing either...
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I'm a town ammo cop, I can see how many charges someone has. I checked Lady Angel on N2 and found that she had 0 charges remaining, which I loosely crumbed D3
In post 1408, GuiltyLion wrote:I would like to hear whether Lady Angel has any updates or new thoughts
I don't think my role is all that useful or informative, it does support her claim that she used her action N1 and I wanted to just basically leave enough info in my ISO so people could figure out what I was talking about if I were NK'd. Her claiming protective rather than any kind of investigative role is also consistent with using an action and not really having any changes in reads.In post 1462, GuiltyLion wrote:also I have some light role related reasons to think LA is scum as well - it's not 100% indicative and I don't want to disclose fully yet but just want to note that I am surprised that nothing seemed to change for her overnight, I was expecting that she would re-evaluate or have some more substantial new thoughts to offer in response to my opening poke on her
I need to set aside some time to reread and think a bit because it's crunch time and I'm worried I have a blind spot somewhere. Vax and Manatee highly likely to be scum, third could be nearly anyone as far as I'm concerned and I don't feel like I have a solid opinion yet and I'm now getting MYLO/LYLO paranoia about being wrong on Gamma or even Flavor Leaf. I actually think Kokichi claiming roleblocked N2 when he was (presumably) roleblocked on N2 makes him slightly more likely to be town - FL why do you see still him as scum despite his knowing/announcing that he was roleblocked?"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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currently I'd say this is where I am, but it needs time to percolate
most highly likely town and if they're scum we're pretty screwed at this point: FL
a mess, but if I had to bet the game on it I'd prob lean town: Kokichi, Porkens
a mess, but I think third scum is one of these two: Gamma, Lady Angel
scum: Vax, Manatee
the thing that still kinda stands out to me is Vax trying to townread Porkens early on D2, and then Gamma and Kokichi riffing on Vax making a joke about it afterwards on D3 when Porkens basically continued not to play. I feel like that points to Porkens not on a team with scum!Vax, but the Gamma/Kokichi approach to the Vax joke post is really awkward. Could be distancing from Gamma?
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also like I think it mostly goes without saying but like let's be real, there's no universe where Manatee was the night kill if he's town. He's not widely townread and he's not pushing anybody. It'd require like all of the more universally townread players to be scum. I consider that roleblock claim from FL + no kill to be basically a claimed guilty. It's also telling that Manatee didn't react with any suspicion towards FL at all"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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actually, I guess the one way that Manatee could plausibly be the kill target is if scum role copped him and were trying to go for a game winning twofer on the off chance he targeted town
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@GL - I’m seeing Kokichi as still scummy because I have a weird gut feeling that Lady is town, and I’ve been town reading Gamma and you for a bit, so I don’t see any other teams that fit.
Gamma could have pocketed me.
I’m not entirely sure where I want tbh.
I could even see Manatee as potentially town since he was a low info kill and I was pushing him as Slimer’s partner, so scum killing there makes sense as well if he was town to try and set me up as a game winning mislynch, which Lady did, but didn’t push it for that reasoning.
We also have a liar amongst us.
Porkens claimed roleblocked Night 1. I didn’t do that, meaning there’s another blocker out there.
Tinfoil hat theory - Gamma and Porkens fake claimed a neighborhood as scum, but that’s risky if Gamma were to have ever flip.
I’ve three man fake claimed neighborhood with the entire scum team before to win the game, but that scenario was super set up for that.
That’s just tinfoil hat for me.
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But that Manatee scenario only makes sense if I’m the one trying to be framed, and I don’t see any team of 3 that would think it’s a good idea to go for a mislynch on me here.
I think Lady’s the only one here that would try to mislynch me, but I know Gamma wouldn’t approve of that, I’m pretty sure Kokichi wouldn’t.
I’m in a spot where if Manatee is town, Lady is for sure scum. If Lady is town, Manatee is for sure scum.
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That means Lady charged someone Night 2 if you saw them with 0.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Occam’s razor says Manatee is just the scum who made the kill because he was the smallest presence.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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GL can correct me on this, but I assumed his role tracks the amount of charges our main (in my case, Doctor) ability has, not the amount of charge charges we have left.In post 1564, Flavor Leaf wrote:That means Lady charged someone Night 2 if you saw them with 0.
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Oh. I can see that being it too.In post 1566, Lady Angel wrote:
GL can correct me on this, but I assumed his role tracks the amount of charges our main (in my case, Doctor) ability has, not the amount of charge charges we have left.In post 1564, Flavor Leaf wrote:That means Lady charged someone Night 2 if you saw them with 0.
@GL am I right on this?
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Aight, not too much activity right now. I got stuff to do, I’ll be back later.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Oops, meant to say this in the scum PT. My bad.In post 1568, Flavor Leaf wrote:Aight, not too much activity right now. I got stuff to do, I’ll be back later.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Lol, I really shouldn’t joke around right now.In post 1569, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Oops, meant to say this in the scum PT. My bad.In post 1568, Flavor Leaf wrote:Aight, not too much activity right now. I got stuff to do, I’ll be back later.
I apologize, haha.
But for real, I’ll check up tonight.
Don’t make any hasty decisions.
Imma take a vote as a scum claim.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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When did she say it had to do with the wagon?In post 1543, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yes, because over Kokichi and Vax on that wagon, I’m the scummy one.How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.- Kokichi Oma
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ooooooo spicy.In post 1548, Flavor Leaf wrote:Fuck it, might as well just claim now since I may be away for a good chunk of the day, and y’all don’t seem to be getting online.
I jailed Kokichi Night 2. I didn’t necessarily believe his cop claim, and thought it was a decent way to get people off of him Night action wise, and mixed in with pressure on him, i thought he was a good choice to make the night kill for the team. I would have in his position as scum, alongside seeing if he would still claim a result and catch him out that way.
The offside of that, if he was town, I’d have been blocking a town cop, BUT I thought scum would shoot there if he was town, so we’d have gotten a conf town out of it.
That didn’t happen, and he claimed roleblocked. That coincided with my action.
I also got charged that night.
So last night I jailed Manatee.
So Manatee’s either scum or was the night kill unless one of you guys did something.How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.- Kokichi Oma
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Why the hell would you jail a cop claim, though? Like legit that's awful play. But, I guess it makes sense, since you scumread me?How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.- Kokichi Oma
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