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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:38 pm

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In post 98, Thor665 wrote:
In post 87, shortaru wrote:
In post 84, Thor665 wrote:Sheeping Those in Charge. Think that's town.
Willing to buy BBmolla and Shotaru as town also.

People should sheep me.
If you're sheeping TiC, anyone else voting the player you're voting wouldn't, by definition, be sheeping you.

Also, do you really think comes from scum?
I disagree with how you think sheeping works.

How do you see it not coming from scum exactly?
In post 90, Gamma Emerald wrote:Maybe it feels like there’s “too much effort” because I was trying a gambit?
Maybe?
I'm sheeping him more due to my reads, I don't find your slot townish and I find him townish.
I will generally agree I find you a bit more involved already than I would expect from you being town, but that might also be early game excitement. Either way you're still a fine vote at this juncture.

What do you think of Shortaru defending you for pointing out something stated in the ruleset? Is he daft for buying that, or am I daft for considering it NaI?
I think it’s odd he’s defending that after calling it LAMIST.
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I also feel like his Wisdom push is kinda scummy after digging into his thinking
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:41 pm

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In post 100, Gamma Emerald wrote:I also feel like his Wisdom push is kinda scummy after digging into his thinking
It wasn't a push.

It was snark.

You thought that was a push? Seriously?
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:45 pm

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In post 100, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think it’s odd he’s defending that after calling it LAMIST.
I thought you said 70 wasn't LAMIST? Along with the fact nobody after that said it was, I revised my opinion.

Is town supposed to stubbornly hang onto faulty assumptions? I'll have to work on that.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:59 pm

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In post 49, shortaru wrote:
In post 46, Carcalilly wrote:If it helps, Gamma, I'm vanilla. :3
I counterclaim.
Why did you feel the need to counterclaim?
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:03 pm

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In post 101, shortaru wrote:
In post 100, Gamma Emerald wrote:I also feel like his Wisdom push is kinda scummy after digging into his thinking
It wasn't a push.

It was snark.

You thought that was a push? Seriously?
You defended your position, so I took it as a push.
In post 102, shortaru wrote:
In post 100, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think it’s odd he’s defending that after calling it LAMIST.
I thought you said 70 wasn't LAMIST? Along with the fact nobody after that said it was, I revised my opinion.

Is town supposed to stubbornly hang onto faulty assumptions? I'll have to work on that.
I might have missed that revision.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:07 pm

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In post 99, shortaru wrote:If you are sheeping TiC, you are acquiescing to their judgment. By asking others to sheep you when you are relying on TiC's judgment, you are asking others to also trust the judgment of TiC.

In effect, you are asking others to sheep TiC under the guise of sheeping you.
I interpreted it as Thor asking others to trust his own judgment that TiC is worth sheeping.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:11 pm

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In post 87, shortaru wrote:Also, do you really think 70 comes from scum?
Is there a particular reason you don't think it does?
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:17 pm

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In post 103, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote:
In post 49, shortaru wrote:
In post 46, Carcalilly wrote:If it helps, Gamma, I'm vanilla. :3
I counterclaim.
Why did you feel the need to counterclaim?
I frequently feel the need to b/s in early game, due to my affinity for having fun.

Vanilla Townie counterclaim sounded like an obvious "lol he is joking around" kind of counterclaim, to me. Maybe I am wrong about that?
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:19 pm

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In post 104, Gamma Emerald wrote:You defended your position, so I took it as a push.
In post 97, shortaru wrote:Not really.

My point remains the same. Save your verbiage lawyering for someone who cares.
^ telling someone that takes something silly seriously to piss off isn't "defending my position".
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:21 pm

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In post 84, Thor665 wrote:People should sheep me.
I disagree with you, but am interested in hearing more about your scumread here.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:22 pm

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In post 105, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote:
In post 99, shortaru wrote:If you are sheeping TiC, you are acquiescing to their judgment. By asking others to sheep you when you are relying on TiC's judgment, you are asking others to also trust the judgment of TiC.

In effect, you are asking others to sheep TiC under the guise of sheeping you.
I interpreted it as Thor asking others to trust his own judgment that TiC is worth sheeping.
That wasn't what Thor was asking us to do, however.
In post 84, Thor665 wrote:People should sheep me.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:23 pm

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In post 106, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote:
In post 87, shortaru wrote:Also, do you really think 70 comes from scum?
Is there a particular reason you don't think it does?
Yes.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:25 pm

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In post 110, shortaru wrote:
In post 105, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote:
In post 99, shortaru wrote:If you are sheeping TiC, you are acquiescing to their judgment. By asking others to sheep you when you are relying on TiC's judgment, you are asking others to also trust the judgment of TiC.

In effect, you are asking others to sheep TiC under the guise of sheeping you.
I interpreted it as Thor asking others to trust his own judgment that TiC is worth sheeping.
That wasn't what Thor was asking us to do, however.
In post 84, Thor665 wrote:People should sheep me.
I don't find this a worthwhile argument to pursue, and like I said, that line mostly reads to me as though he is using his own authority to push the Gamma wagon.
In post 111, shortaru wrote:
In post 106, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote:
In post 87, shortaru wrote:Also, do you really think 70 comes from scum?
Is there a particular reason you don't think it does?
Yes.
And what would that reason be?
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:28 pm

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In post 112, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote:I don't find this a worthwhile argument to pursue, and like I said, that line mostly reads to me as though he is using his own authority to push the Gamma wagon.
That's precisely why it's scummy.

He's using his authority to sell it, and if it does go through and Gamma flips green he can just say "I was sheeping TiC, guess he was wrong."
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:32 pm

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In post 112, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote:And what would that reason be?
It would be something that would not be a productive argument to get into with you

You either see it, or you don't. I'm not getting into an argument over something subjective because neither of us will convince the other.

If it was something I was scumreading him for, I'd be open to explaining why.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:41 pm

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In post 114, shortaru wrote:
In post 112, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote:And what would that reason be?
It would be something that would not be a productive argument to get into with you

You either see it, or you don't. I'm not getting into an argument over something subjective because neither of us will convince the other.

If it was something I was scumreading him for, I'd be open to explaining why.
Why would it not be productive?

I had no intention of arguing with you when I asked you, and don't really know why you're automatically assuming I would. Mostly everything is subjective anyway, so...?
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:51 pm

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In post 95, ThoseInCharge wrote:Hey Wisdom, tell me more about your Gamma townread?
Do you really expect that to happen?
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:55 pm

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In post 116, shortaru wrote:
In post 95, ThoseInCharge wrote:Hey Wisdom, tell me more about your Gamma townread?
Do you really expect that to happen?
May I ask you where this is coming from?
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:01 pm

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In post 117, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote:
In post 116, shortaru wrote:
In post 95, ThoseInCharge wrote:Hey Wisdom, tell me more about your Gamma townread?
Do you really expect that to happen?
May I ask you where this is coming from?
If he didn't explain his townreads in his last large, I doubt he's going to be an open book here.
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:02 pm

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In post 100, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 98, Thor665 wrote:
In post 87, shortaru wrote:
In post 84, Thor665 wrote:Sheeping Those in Charge. Think that's town.
Willing to buy BBmolla and Shotaru as town also.

People should sheep me.
If you're sheeping TiC, anyone else voting the player you're voting wouldn't, by definition, be sheeping you.

Also, do you really think comes from scum?
I disagree with how you think sheeping works.

How do you see it not coming from scum exactly?
In post 90, Gamma Emerald wrote:Maybe it feels like there’s “too much effort” because I was trying a gambit?
Maybe?
I'm sheeping him more due to my reads, I don't find your slot townish and I find him townish.
I will generally agree I find you a bit more involved already than I would expect from you being town, but that might also be early game excitement. Either way you're still a fine vote at this juncture.

What do you think of Shortaru defending you for pointing out something stated in the ruleset? Is he daft for buying that, or am I daft for considering it NaI?
I think it’s odd he’s defending that after calling it LAMIST.
VOTE: shortaru
I also feel like his Wisdom push is kinda scummy after digging into his thinking
Ugh this post makes me want to keep my vote on Gamma

By the way, this vote puts Shortaru at L-2
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:03 pm

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In post 119, ThoseInCharge wrote:Ugh this post makes me want to keep my vote on Gamma
Nah, he's town.

I don't care about L-2.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:03 pm

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Something is bugging me about Thor's entrance.

I'm also trying to evaluate FFT's intentions here.
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:04 pm

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In post 111, shortaru wrote:
In post 106, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote:
In post 87, shortaru wrote:Also, do you really think 70 comes from scum?
Is there a particular reason you don't think it does?
Yes.
Then please explain this.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:06 pm

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In post 121, ThoseInCharge wrote:Something is bugging me about Thor's entrance.
What do you think of Thor low-key pushing Gamma to voting me in 98?
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:07 pm

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In post 122, ThoseInCharge wrote:
In post 111, shortaru wrote:
In post 106, Fuwa Fuwa Time wrote:
In post 87, shortaru wrote:Also, do you really think 70 comes from scum?
Is there a particular reason you don't think it does?
Yes.
Then please explain this.
Nah.
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