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In post 45, Baezu wrote:

In post 40, GuiltyLion wrote:several people had already posted, you didn't engage with any of them or any of the page 1 content, instead voting somebody who hadn't gotten to the thread yet

with an explanation that pinged me as awkward

So you think it’s scummy to not place a vote on the people who had already posted?

yes, vaguely. it's play that doesn't generate any information. why aren't you trying to generate information? There were lots of posts you could have done something with, 9, 11, 12, 16. those are all potential starting points for engagement (or a vote) and moving out of RVS. the fact that you chose to vote elsewhere (you also left my bolded here out of your question) looks page 1 scummy to me, yes.

It was the same reason, so why not acknowledge that?

Because you haven’t said it

Well I thought it was fairly obvious I had the same reason.

@insomnia What do you think of my vote on the wagon?

It’s bad, just like everyone’s vote

Not that I’m against it, tomorrow I can push my roster agenda when Baezu flips town OwO

Inno until proven guilty, there’s nothing relevant for me to join / support this wagon

GL’s accusation is a newb!scum tell and it doesn’t work on people with account from 2013

In post 56, insomnia wrote:Inno until proven guilty, there’s nothing relevant for me to join / support this wagon

so Baezu is inno until proven guilty but Roster is now guilty enough to merit a vote?

how would you feel if someone who hasn't posted yet said "insomnia is onto something" and voted roster?

(also, join date doesn't invalidate scum indicative play. until I see town play from Baezu or someone else more strongly scum, my vote stays on what looks scummy to me)

In post 50, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 45, Baezu wrote:

In post 40, GuiltyLion wrote:several people had already posted, you didn't engage with any of them or any of the page 1 content, instead voting somebody who hadn't gotten to the thread yet

with an explanation that pinged me as awkward

So you think it’s scummy to not place a vote on the people who had already posted?

yes, vaguely. it's play that doesn't generate any information. why aren't you trying to generate information? There were lots of posts you could have done something with, 9, 11, 12, 16. those are all potential starting points for engagement (or a vote) and moving out of RVS. the fact that you chose to vote elsewhere

and the way that you justified it

(you also left my bolded here out of your question) looks page 1 scummy to me, yes.

Got it. I haven’t been on this site in awhile and back when I used to play players would crack random jokes during rvs- I see that times have changed and I’m trying to learn the new meta. I absolutely agree with you that random jokes don’t help drive the game forward, but considering it’s page 2 I figured, why not?

And fwiw I was never good at getting out of RVS

Speaking of Maria, who else hasn’t made a post yet?

GL what do you think of Elbirn’s 18

Insomnia am I saying that Baezu is remotely +ve scum? No of course not.

It's literally a gut read which happens to be for the same reason as GL's.

And that’s why I don’t like the vote. What’s the problem? Agree to disagree.

So you think town just chooses somebody randomly? I like to have a real reason for my RVS vote, however slight.

RVS = random voting stage ???

Ummm yeah? This is why I don’t scum hunt in RVS. This is why I vote people who stack up in rvs, especially without stating a reason for it

In post 56, insomnia wrote:Inno until proven guilty, there’s nothing relevant for me to join / support this wagon

I don't understand this philosophy as relates to mafia. We'll rarely have proof that someone's mafia.

In post 59, Baezu wrote:

In post 50, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 45, Baezu wrote:

In post 40, GuiltyLion wrote:several people had already posted, you didn't engage with any of them or any of the page 1 content, instead voting somebody who hadn't gotten to the thread yet

with an explanation that pinged me as awkward

So you think it’s scummy to not place a vote on the people who had already posted?

yes, vaguely. it's play that doesn't generate any information. why aren't you trying to generate information? There were lots of posts you could have done something with, 9, 11, 12, 16. those are all potential starting points for engagement (or a vote) and moving out of RVS. the fact that you chose to vote elsewhere

and the way that you justified it

(you also left my bolded here out of your question) looks page 1 scummy to me, yes.

Got it. I haven’t been on this site in awhile and back when I used to play players would crack random jokes during rvs- I see that times have changed and I’m trying to learn the new meta. I absolutely agree with you that random jokes don’t help drive the game forward, but considering it’s page 2 I figured, why not?

And fwiw I was never good at getting out of RVS

Speaking of Maria, who else hasn’t made a post yet?

People still do make jokes in RVS. In my opinion, what you posted was lacking town more than it was full of scum.

In post 64, insomnia wrote:RVS = random voting stage ???

Ummm yeah? This is why I don’t scum hunt in RVS. This is why I vote people who stack up in rvs, especially without stating a reason for it

I don't think that's a scum thing to do though. I do it all the time.

In post 64, insomnia wrote:RVS = random voting stage ???

Ummm yeah? This is why I don’t scum hunt in RVS. This is why I vote people who stack up in rvs, especially without stating a reason for it

So what would happen in your world where everyone rolls a dice to start with?

Why is it hard to understand, especially in rvs where nothing happens?

If I don’t think the case on someone is good, why would I support their vote?

It’s just common sense

Fair enough

That doesn't answer my question?

IMO the only way content can be made is through making wagons and counterwagons and pressure, to generate discussion.

Like it's done here.

I have no time for banter, call me when we get over useless stuff.

Push lurkers.

I took a look at some of Baezu's games, and her RVS's there seem pretty consistent with how she was here. Even sometimes when there was more relevant content to react to. UNVOTE:

Tris, not related to anything you’ve done in the game but

Are you an alt?

In post 71, insomnia wrote:I have no time for banter, call me when we get over useless stuff.

Push lurkers.

This post is weird. VOTE: insomnia You seem to have completely changed gears here, and I don't understand why.