Mafia 75: Return of the Mafia! TOWN WINS (really late)

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Hi.

Vote: Battle Mage

Give me some time to do a reread.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Tradition.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Scummy Strikes:
armlx IIIIIIIII
Nemesis I
Peers II
Charity I
Battle Mage I
curiouskarmadog III
Nanosauromo III
TheSweatpantsNinja III
Incognito I
Khelvaster I
Rosswilliam I
Imat II
Andycyca II


People who make me cry multiple times:
Battle Mage
Rosso Carne
OejO
thenextepisode
killa seven
farside22

People who smell Town:
Battle Mage
Nemesis
andersonw
Matt_s

Vote: Armlx

Btw, I love the people here.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Voting BM (esp. #254), rather contribute to useless discussions then focusing on hunting scum (azwolging, newbies, cult, which are only usefull in MD, not IG), lurkerfocusing, wagonpushing, started to make some sense only after he got attacked, but later returned to his scummy self. Also, alot of his suspicions were based of either lurkers, people in the spotlight or just plain bandwagonning.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I made Kaleidoscope cry.
Man your lack of comments in most every game I play with you makes me hit my head on my desk so I would say we are even.
Welcome by the way.

I'm sure hitting your head on your desk would make yourself cry as well. Don't try it though.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

How did your scummy-strike system work?

People receive a strike if I find an awkward/scummy/non-contributive +1 to post count/unlogical post.

How do you manage to account for the lurky-type scum?

Lurkerscum are no threat if they really lurk. If they partially lurk, I've noticed it.

Are you scum by any chance?

No

What are your thoughts on Killa Seven?

Dumb, though not necesarilly scum.

Are people who make you cry annoying or scummy (or both)?

Mostly people that make me *sigh*, made a post solely to piss another player off, made a dumb move or are generally already reserving their own grave.

Dear armlx,
#1. You vote Battle Mage solely for claiming miller, where I don't see a point why this might be bad. Later you add "I don't like the way he plays" reason, while it's just BM being BM, mentioned by other people. The way you're asking for a "lynch-all-millers" in general sounds more like a bad scum tactic then a townie move. You also back off from your vote if you see people don't want to base a lynch on it. You also flip-flop alot of your votes, more trying to "just seek a lynch" instead of looking for the scum. (Post #0, #1, #3, #6, #14)
#2. Your focus on the wrong things. Lurkers are for the moderater to handle, and voting them usually ends up in a townie lynch, as there are so much lurkers the scum always will direct us into the wrong ones. The azwolging has nothing to do with the game and is a better discussion held in the mafia discussion forum. IMO, scum like to go off-topic more, just so the focus isn't on one of them(#6, #8, #11, #12, #13
#3. Wagonpushing & Votehopping. I see this as a general scummy thing to do. If I read your posts, it also seems you've bassicly voted everyone this game, so to me, it seems you don't care who gets lynched, as long as it is not you. (#9, #62, #63, #91)

Just a quick rundown on my thoughts.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

The attack and immediate vote against Rosso

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Battle Mage, your 17th post.

Could you justify this statement? I find lurkerscum to be threats because they don't give any material to the town, so you don't think about them, and then they survive and are out of suspicion. This in its very nature is threatening, is it not?

I was talking about the 100% lurkers. The other part who post just enough to stay in the game give off signs. Still, they are of a lesser threat because they will not lead the town, which frequent posters are capable of doing.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

ugh, let's lynch killa then

Unvote Vote: Killah Seven

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

[quote="killa seven"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]ugh, let's lynch killa then

Unvote Vote: Killah Seven

[/quote]
wtf does no one explain votes now.[/quote]We have a deadline. I don't need reasons.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

killda killa

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Hey now, I still want killa dead

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

just lynch killa

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: TheSweatpantsNinja

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Unvote Vote: Rosso Carne

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: TheSweatpantsNinja

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Can we finally lynch TheSweatpantsNinja now?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

[quote="curiouskarmadog"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Can we finally lynch TheSweatpantsNinja now?[/quote]why?[/quote]He's scum.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

You shouldn't let people get vigged openly if you don't give them a chance to claim.

TheSweatpantsNinja is actually obvious scum because of his first couple of posts IMO. armlx is also scum, but apparantly people do not like his lynch.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Could easily be scum due to his play. Not promoting his lynch at the moment though

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Considering I voted him yesterday as well, whole game.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

No

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Proof enough for me

Unvote Vote: Battle Mage

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

OMG, you people seriously can't detect sarcasm...

Unvote Vote: TheSweatPantsNinja

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

BM isn't scum. I've got a BM-radar and it isn't ringing.

Vote TheSweatPantsNinja, people.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

There are 21 players left. Just because you are town doesn't mean you are sane.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

No, let's divert the lynch into TheSweatPantsNinja.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Yes, your death will be worth commenting on.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I guess I'll just hop on

Unvote Vote: dahill1

lynch TSPN tomorrow, k?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: TheSweatpantsNinja

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Because that takes some of the pressure off from you, right? Then again, as town, you wouldn't mind it as much since there are enough townies compared to scum. As scum, you simply don't want to die.

I still believe you are scum, and it's not likely to change.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Why would I want to be lynched as town? Its absolutely in my interest as a townie to not get lynched. That doesn't even make sense.

I said: Why would you fear getting lynched as town if there are enough townies left. I'm sure wouldn't be afraid.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

[quote="farside22"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"][quote="TheSweatpantsNinja"]Why would I want to be lynched as town? Its absolutely in my interest as a townie to not get lynched. That doesn't even make sense.[/quote]I said: Why would you fear getting lynched as town if there are enough townies left. I'm sure wouldn't be afraid.[/quote]

That is terrible logic even for you Kale.

FOS Kaleidoscope

[/quote]Not really. You never noticed I don't care whether or live or die, as long as my point is being made?[quote=TSPN]I'm. . . not? I recognize that for you, me saying, "you're as wrong as you were yesterday" is a lot of words, and might seem like a heartfelt defense, but rest assured, I didn't devote hours thinking how I was going to get out of your stunning logic.[/quote]Oh, you sure shouldn't. Then again, why doesn't it suprise me your attention suddenly turns on me since I voted you yesterday

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

You're right, my attention turned on you when you voted for me. Its almost like, I saw your vote, and noticed it, and responded to it. That's shocking, really. Obviously the behavior of scum.

Figured

And the point you're so willing to martyr yourself for (so

noble

). . . what is it again? That I'm scum because you say I am?

Yes

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Unvote Vote: Tarhalindur

Fishing

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

pants plz.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Sweatman... do I really have to explain why fishing is bad?

Ugh

Changing back vote

Unvote Vote: TheSweatPantsNinja

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Yes. You do. See, as far as I can tell, you're completely clueless, and I'd like you to prove that you aren't.

I'm not clueless. This is proof. If I can't prove this on a later stage in the game, you can lynch me for it. For now, eleborating is bad for the town, which means good for you, hence I'm not giving it.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Elaborating is bad for the town? What, you're incapable of giving a definition of "fishing?" I'm not convinced by your evidence. You're still lining up in the "this guy has played on this site for two years and he's still this bad?" category.

No, fishing is bad for the town, which you are doing. I won't eleborate on this further because it serves no purpose to do so.

And it's actually a total of four years of experience, with over 100 games.

I'd settle for an explanation of why you're voting for me. See, all you've given so far is "he reacted when I voted for him," which is like some sort of time paradox.

Settle? If you think I am scum, vote me. I think you are scum, so I vote you. Reasons are overrated, as they can simply be covered by excuses they can think about. I'm not planning to read that junk.

Apparantly you are unknown to my playstyle, so I'll sum it up for you:
If I think someone is scum, I will go after them until either I die, or he dies. I won't allow them to let them get out of the spotlight or get into the lurking zone until I see their heads hang. See viewtopic.php?t=4636 for reference

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I've been informed on your playstyle. I think its useless. I think its anti-town. I think you do it just so its harder to tell the difference between you as scum and you as town, which is tremendously weak.

Sometimes. My playstyle always eventually confirms me as town if I am, just because I am sticking solely to one person.

PS: You actually accused tarhalindur of fishing. You might want to read your own posts-they aren't that long.

You questioned it. I don't see the difference

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Eh... yeah, I should be getting back to this...

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

[quote="curiouskarmadog"][quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Eh... yeah, I should be getting back to this...[/quote]

yeah, if you could start by addressing 2907.[/quote]I believe that if you think fishing is a townie thing to do without really good reasoning behind, I consider it scummy. I've stated that my role is confirmable, but doing it now will only hurt the town. I believe that is sufficient to say considering I'm not in the risk of being lynched yet. TSPN asks for eleboration even after this statement, which I consider idiotic and scummy

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

K-scope: I asked you if you knew what fishing was.

You still haven't proven it.

If you don't want to be treated like a fool, play like you aren't one.

I know what fishing is. I know fishing has multiple lairs and players have multiple visions on it. Just because you probably have a different vision (Since you are implying that), it doesn't mean the other player is stupid, a fool or a worse player.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Tar was fishing.

You were questioning in general why fishing is wrong.

Fishing is scummy because you're pulling extra info for the scum on the table for no specific reason. The only reason why you should fish is when someone is at -1 or when there is reason to believe things don't add up. Neither is the case here.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

armlx is a good vote as well.

Unvote Vote: armlx

TSPN still needs to die though.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I always supported and still will support an armlx lynch.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Sorry, busy with alot of things. Still convinced we should lynch TSPN though

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: Celebloki

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Yes BM

Amen

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: armlx

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

armlx is scum,

lynch him

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

ITT, we lynch armlx

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

So now, we can quickwagon armlx

Unvote VOTE: ARMLX

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I'm backup.

Send pm's to me scum :D:D

Also, armlx lynch ftw

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Not me?

lol

Can you resend my role mod?

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Hai

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

That's a lie. I wasn't prodded.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Vote: Toaster Strudel

lulz

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I'm here, lurkermode.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

I was actually willing to check if it says "confirmed town" masons in the pm, but since it hasn't been resend yet.

Vote: curiouskarmadog