NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[Gustavo]

High. Insane in the membrane cause I’m loco

[Gustavo]

VOTE: chickkadee

[Gustavo]

Salut!

[Gustavo]

If the people I last played Risk with are any indication, the game will last like 15 minutes.

I’d be ok with that. Fast games rule.

[Gustavo]

Also, Risk is a stupid game. Let's play Munchkins instead.

I’ve never played. But don’t fuck with Ukraine.

[Gustavo]

[Gustavo]

VOTE: profli

[Gustavo]

VOTE: profli

Well this doesn’t look like RVS. Porque por favor?

I don’t like your posts so far

[Gustavo]

VOTE: No Lynch

Well this is worse than giving us yourself as scum, Elbirn. Wanna wagon your scum buddy here?

Why is this scummy to you?

The following post needs to be read in context of “RVS I suppose”

The self vote was bad - if you are scum, voting yourself is anti win con, if you are town, then we all have wifom over the slot because it could be a random gambit/reaction test but it certainly doesn’t help scum hunt

Then we had he no vote. Obviously excluding vigs, we can only kill scum via lynch so again, anti win con play

Admittedly - it moved us out of RVS

I think I’ll be looking at this Rask wagon in a bit for a serious vote, whilst it’s bad play, I’m not sure I’m calling it scummy. As much as I said to Elbirn lynch your scum buddy, I was more interested to see how he felt about the apparent counter reaction test, I’m assuming he Elbirn is town for trying that play (even though i don’t like it)

[Gustavo]

I go to bed and literally the entire world posts while I'm asleep. LITERALLY!

Serious question to everyone, can anyone read profii? Because I always scum read him and its happening again, and I know I can't read him.

Also, HitAlt, am I one of the people you have played with in the past?

I’m pretty sure this time your gut is right about him.

[Gustavo]

oh yeah you like fast forwarding day 1

Please tell me the similarity of fast day one and voting no lynch is against win conditions. You’re the first person I’ve ever seen argue that no lynching is anti win condition so yeah that was definitely face palm worthy since it isn’t true.

[Gustavo]

I know but I dunno how to fix it.

Stop making iioa posts. That used to be a very reliable way to catch scum so if town start doing it, it muddies the water

[Gustavo]

I dunno what your lack of forthcoming schtick is all about though

Can you explain what you meant by this though? I’m not sure what you’re saying.

[Gustavo]

I have issues with his stances so far. Self voting and no lynch voting aren’t playing against a win condition regardless of alignment. I feel like he should know better since he’s not a newbie.

He does need to make less wordy posts though. That’s why they come off as iioa

[Gustavo]

Gustavo’s lack of contribution is staring to irritate me

But I’ve contributed so...

[Gustavo]

So you admit I’ve contributed something. Why did you lie about me and say I haven’t contributed?

I’m not tunneling either. Please stop lying about me.

[Gustavo]

Asshole by nature but how did he know that. I’ve never played with him.

[Gustavo]

By flailing, I meant inferno is not spending much time if any defending themselves over scumhunting. They're prone to 1v1 iirc

That’s a weird definition of flailing. Normally people defending themselves are called flailing. Not scum hunting isn’t flailing either.

[Gustavo]

AbN is Assumption Before Narrative. Basically it means that Gustavo was calling Profii’s play scummy and then coming up with reasons for it to actually be scummy.

Do it, brass.

Have you played mafia before?

[Gustavo]

So you admit I’ve contributed something. Why did you lie about me and say I haven’t contributed?

I’m not tunneling either. Please stop lying about me.

This reads as needlessly defensive.

Actually it was justified defensive.

[Gustavo]

AbN is Assumption Before Narrative. Basically it means that Gustavo was calling Profii’s play scummy and then coming up with reasons for it to actually be scummy.

Do it, brass.

Have you played mafia before?

Well this is incredibly evasive. I agree with Chickadee on 186. This is pretty flaily scum.
I’m just gonna shoot you so I can go on to hunt your buddies.

Dayvig: Gustavo

How is that envasive? You accused me of something that almost every player does. Scum reading somebody and explaining why is like the foundation of mafia.

[Gustavo]

I hope it is real. I can’t play with incompetent people.

[Gustavo]

You’re missing the point.
In mafia, what you do is form a case and then judge someone based on that case. In AbN, you assume someone’s alignment and then build a case around the assumption.

Ex.
“Player X has been doing this, so he’s scum.”
Vs
“Player X is scum!”
*Player X does something*
“See? What Player X sis is scummy! Die scum!”

Your progression is firmly of the latter.

Except that’s not what I did at all. Yet another lie from you.

[Gustavo]

I’m done
VOTE: Gustavo

There’s not even any defense coming from him. He’s just calling me a liar and being evasive.

I’m not being invasive and I’ve called you a liar cause as I’ve shown you have lied multiple times.

I don’t have to defend myself from lies.

[Gustavo]

I also don’t think you know what evasive means.

[Gustavo]

I’m done
VOTE: Gustavo

There’s not even any defense coming from him. He’s just calling me a liar and being evasive.

I’m not being invasive and I’ve called you a liar cause as I’ve shown you have lied multiple times.

I don’t have to defend myself from lies.

Where exactly have you shown anything? And asking me if I’ve ever played Mafia before in response to me explaining my point is being evasive: You’re avoiding engaging with me because you don’t like what I’m saying.
Stop being toxic and calling names, SCUM. We don’t want any of that here.

I’m not being toxic. If anything this post is toxic. You’re trying to start a fight. I don’t need to go back and show you where I’ve called you out on your lies because I’ve already done that. I haven’t avoided engaging with you and I definitely haven’t been evasive. If you think I’m not answering something, why not phrase it in a form of a question and straight up ask me something?

I’m not continuing this back and forth. If you have something specific you want, you can ask it.

[Gustavo]

In hall honesty tho, I was coming into this game intending not to get dragged into heated arguments. But this whole Inferno390 is doing nothing but lying thing is incredibly frustrating, because it’s blatantly not accurate.

Sorry couldn’t help myself here.

If you don’t want arguments, why did you start one?

[Gustavo]

Gus called me iioa - I dunno what that means

Refer to post 236. Classic example. You make wordy posts to appear like you are doing something but when I reach the end I don’t see you actually doing anything

[Gustavo]

Ok out of interest what does it stand for

Information instead of analysis

[Gustavo]

Gus called me iioa - I dunno what that means

Refer to post 236. Classic example. You make wordy posts to appear like you are doing something but when I reach the end I don’t see you actually doing anything

Use post tags, it's really not that hard.

For me it is. So I’d appreciate if you just accept that going forward. Thank you

[Gustavo]

Why are all you peeps ignoring scumFlubber?

I mean voting Gus who has been a toxic jerk probably feels good but just because he is pompous and condescending doesn’t mean he is scum. Just that he’s a bad player in the wrong game.

This was completely unnecessary. I’d appreciate it if people please stop calling me toxic or a jerk or tbh any other sort of name calling. Let’s act like adults ok?

[Gustavo]

Gus called me iioa - I dunno what that means

Refer to post 236. Classic example. You make wordy posts to appear like you are doing something but when I reach the end I don’t see you actually doing anything

Use post tags, it's really not that hard.

For me it is. So I’d appreciate if you just accept that going forward. Thank you

How is this hard?

How do you not understand how to do post tags?

You type in the number of the post, you can highlight it and press the post button, it's the very last button on the tabs on top.

I am not accepting that, and I am going to tell you conclusively, that it makes your posts easier to read if you use post tags, rather than just mentioning the number. There is no reason you should be unable to use the post tags.

I apologize for losing my chill here.

That’s extra work especially since the post I was referring to was on the same page. I’m lazy. Sue me

[Gustavo]

I’m done with Gus at this point, he’s confscum at this point for me. Elbirn’s post on me feels very strong. As for Rask’s motivation, I honestly think it was just RVS and he was messing around. Also, @Elbrin I had nothing against your self vote. It’s the responses that came after it that felt off. (Oh, and that wall post is nothing. I’ve seen way worse.)

How exactly am I cofscum?

Cause I called you out on your lies or as you put it “misinterpretations”?

I’m not scum so if you aren’t either let’s have a conversation here. Are you even willing?

You say I’ve been evasive and I’ve said you can ask me questions so here is your chance.

[Gustavo]

Why are all you peeps ignoring scumFlubber?

I mean voting Gus who has been a toxic jerk probably feels good but just because he is pompous and condescending doesn’t mean he is scum. Just that he’s a bad player in the wrong game.

This was completely unnecessary. I’d appreciate it if people please stop calling me toxic or a jerk or tbh any other sort of name calling. Let’s act like adults ok?

If you don’t want to be called toxic, then don’t be toxic. The fact that you are being called toxic by several people now should clue you in that despite your beliefs, you are being detrimental to this game and need to figure it out.

Thanks.

I don’t feel I have been. I haven’t done anything toxic at all. If anything you and magna are being toxic.

[Gustavo]

Gus - obviously Inferno is scum reading you with vigour however do you think Inferno is scum/town/nai so far?

I’m leaving him at null because I’m biased by my anger of him calling me toxic and saying I’ve been evasive when I don’t feel I have, also because I feel he’s lied a couple of times and I don’t understand why he would as town but I don’t understand why he would as scum either.

[Gustavo]

I feel very baited but whatever.
@Gus: Here’s a question. What’s with the progression from 63 to 164?

I believe you mean 83? That’s when I vote profli because I think he could be scum. Post 164 is me having a conversation with hws which implies I’m continuing to thinking he’s scum.

If there was a progression it was one from a light scum read to moderate scum read. I don’t see why any townie would think voting no lynch is playing against their win condition. That’s just throwing dirt on somebody unnecessarily. He also had an issue with the self vote which struck me as odd.

[Gustavo]

Also, I think that the definition of being evasive is something like “avoiding commitment by responding indirectly.” And responding to everything I say by saying I’m a liar is a a pretty good way of doing that, wouldn’t you agree?

I wasn’t avoiding commitment to anything though and I feel like if I see somebody lying, it’s more important to call that out immediately. You probably shouldn’t have lied. I get you don’t think you lied, but unfortunately you did.

It’s better not to make assumptions and posting them as fact.

[Gustavo]

Can you explain why a no vote or a self vote can be pro town? (Particularly the self vote, I can see that a no vote might be a cop out of town can’t find scum but usually flips and odd number player lists are more useful imo)

I never said it did. People do anti town things all the time. Go look at every game boon or radiant cowbells has ever played for examples of that.

But when you said voting no lynch was playing against his win condition you completely lost me.

[Gustavo]

I didn’t say you said that. But I’m asking you to provide reasons that those actions are pro town, irrespective of anything I said

I can’t provide reasons they are protown. In this instance they aren’t.

That isn’t what we are discussing though so idk what the point of that was.

[Gustavo]

I'd agree but this is Gus being Gus I think. He thinks strongly about his D1 beliefs afaik

But the issue here is informer said I provided no content. When I said I did he changed his story to not liking my content.

No content is different than not liking what I’ve provided.

This has nothing to do with my d1 beliefs. I wanted to just point out his contradiction (is that better than a lie?)

[Gustavo]

Except you kinda did, you entered with a vote on profii and said you didn't like his posts... To add onto that I think that the things you consider scummy are not that scummy.

You and I were having a conversation. I wasn’t adding on anything

[Gustavo]

My bad I misread your last part.

It’s day 1, we have little information to go on. Also I’m sorry I not able to control what I find scummy and what I don’t. This is why I hate day 1. It’s no information day where we have the basically guess based on weak reasons.

For not profli is my guess. If that’s an issue for anyone I’m sorry but not sorry

[Gustavo]

I’m sorry if I’m not presenting enough information. There really isn’t much to say. Profli so far looks scummier than everyone else and I feel like I’ve said why I think that. Once more is posted, maybe I’ll have more thoughts. When I play on the phone I post as I see it. When I’m on a computer I can go back and read things I may have missed but I don’t think I’ve missed anything.

I don’t see why rask and myself have the most votes. I certainly haven’t done anything to indicate I’m scum (cause I’m not) and I feel like it’s more due to the fabricated argument inferno started and then tried to play the “poor me” card after people sided with him.

[Gustavo]

Magna hopping on the whole toxic thing is pretty shitty. I haven’t been toxic at all.

[Gustavo]

Gus I feel your playstyle will always attract votes

Why though? I haven’t done anything wrong or scummy so cause I call somebody out and defend myself that warrants votes? That’s weak.

[Gustavo]

I’m still rusty obviously. If I can get advice to improve I’m all ears.

[Gustavo]

Gustavo if you are Town and don’t understand that 194 and 215 are very toxic posts and the reason people have called you that you need to step back and reevaluate.

If you are scum the feigned ignorance makes sense.

194 definitely isn’t. I could see why 214 could be interpreted that way but I didn’t name names.

If you are so concerned about toxic play? Why contribute to it yourself? why not hold yourself and informer accountable also?

[Gustavo]

Y’all need to lighten up. Get drunk or smoke some weed and not take everything so personal.

[Gustavo]

Why are all you peeps ignoring scumFlubber?

I mean voting Gus who has been a toxic jerk probably feels good but just because he is pompous and condescending doesn’t mean he is scum. Just that he’s a bad player in the wrong game.

Magna, those in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. You should drop the toxic talk given the fact you’ve got 2 example of toxicity in this post alone.

That actually makes you more toxic than me.

[Gustavo]

I will always defend myself. Don’t say anything negative about me and I won’t have to respond.

We could end this day with s profli lynch. His buddies will kill me and everyone is happy.

[Gustavo]

I just read flubber’s 180. I don’t see how that’s worse than profli’s sayung rask is playing against his win condition by no lynching tbh.

[Gustavo]

I will always defend myself. Don’t say anything negative about me and I won’t have to respond.

We could end this day with s profli lynch. His buddies will kill me and everyone is happy.

This sounds lots like "Don't scumread me and everything will be fine."

You realize that, right?

No. But if you scum read me you have to be prepared for me to defend myself. Players should defend themselves without fear of being called “defensive” which tbh is the most laughable accusation anyone can make. You also need to do it without lying about me.

[Gustavo]

I don’t really understand where you’re coming from by saying no lynching is anti-wincon. That’s not what I’m scum reading you for though. Maybe that’s the issue? I was scum reading you when I voted you. Idk how to put it but your early posts all seem so fake to me. Like you are trying to appear town and it doesn’t come off as genuine. The whole no lynch thing was definitely some more fuel to my fire and maybe that’s why people are so hung up on that. Like I said earlier it looked like you were just throwing more dirt on rask who was already doing a good job making himself look bad and your conclusions to me don’t make sense logically. I’ve never seen anyone say no lynching is playing against their win condition. It’s not like he was going to actually gain momentum for it. Some people I’ve seen argue no lynching helps town and while I don’t agree I understand their logic. I don’t understand yours. I don’t see it coming from town unless they are a newbie which you aren’t. It’s hands down the best information available to us. Definitely better than the reasons others have given (magna for example)

[Gustavo]

Numbers have been crunched to show that a no lynch on day 1 is statistically inferior to a mislynch for town.

At least it is that way in newbie games, I would assume it holds true in larger games.

(I am a trash person)

Im sure. Hence the I understand but don’t agree.

There is absolutely no evidence though to support that voting no lynch is playing against your win condition yet here we are.

[Gustavo]

That’s very naive thinking.

But ok. That’s true but we also don’t remove town from the game.

There are more day 1 mislynches than scum lynches.

[Gustavo]

Yes I understand all of that. But to say no lynching is against your win condition is ridiculous. (I’d use a much stronger word but you guys are too sensitive).

I refuse to believe town profli believes that. I tbink he’s scum trying to throw dirt on an easy target.

[Gustavo]

I THINK

That it doesn’t matter because it was just an RVS vote (which more often than not is just people jacking around at the beginning anyways) and Rask obviously didn’t actually want a No Lynch anyways, so let’s all stop talking about it because it’s not helping us hunt scum.

Not sure you are in the position to criticize people’s scum hunting.

[Gustavo]

How many posts have I made that involve me trying to actually discuss points and and do hunting?
And how many posts have you made about me complaining that I’m a liar and not actually contributing to a kind and calm discussion?
Thanks. Have a great day.

You haven’t made that many actually. I had to start the calm discussion remember? I caught you lying, you tried to yell I caught you making more lies, you claim I was evasive, you got mad somebody stand up to you and you vote me.

You aren’t scum. You have a hurt ego.

Good day sir

[Gustavo]

@MoI re 244 -- your Flubber case seems to rest on a single post, am I reading that right?

Yes. My "case" (which really isn't a case but an observation of an actual scummy post in the first 24 hours of the game) rests on that post.

Do you have an issue with that?

Also why are you still voting brass which was an RVS vote?

--

Also want to say that Gustavo has made it into my scum pool with his posting this page. His posting feels not like someone honestly looking for scum but someone bending over backwards and contorting to justify his claimed read. 310 I think embodies this best. That's not an intellectually honest statement but one meant to support his stance that profii is scum.

Have a third darkhorse read from a quick readthrough I did before dinner but will have to wait to post that read for ... reasons ...

I mean frankly while his verbiage is rather oddball the basis of profii's statement about No Lynching Day 1 stands up to reason - it is not to Town's benefit to No Lynch Day 1 regardless of the fact that a mislynch statistically is more likely to happen than a scum lynch.

Another person with a bruised ego? I see you ignored my post that showed you are a hypocrite. For the record, there is literally nothing wrong with my posting this page or any other page.

If town, profli’s conclusion to no voting is so dumb, and dumb is nice because it’s so dumb it’s worse than the word I used earlier which triggered people.

[Gustavo]

Y’all can go ahead and lynch me. My earlier statement about the people in this game stands.

VOTE: gustavo

[Gustavo]

Point me to the 180?

Post 180

[Gustavo]

Ok so now we have Rask content... easily town

Why does content = town?

[Gustavo]

imo Elbirn is town and just acting dumb

Raskolnikov is scum though

VOTE: Raskolnikov

also if I'm right about Raskolnikov being scum, then inferno is town. I doubt scum buddies would immediately have an interaction like that

Hey low poster. Come talk to me about this. I just iso’d The two of them to see what interaction they had and I’m clearly missing something. Can you point to it and explain why they can’t be together.

Also explain what rask did to make him scum prior to this vote?

Thank you

[Gustavo]

VOTE: Gustavo

Can you provide reason for this please.

[Gustavo]

284 by Gustavo bothers me. They are clearly active enough to be generating information, but are still saying there is nothing to go off of

I think you’re misreading or something.

[Gustavo]

and this feels like a (stubborn?) town!gustavo to me.

we have never played together so how can you say this? Also I don't feel I have been stubborn at all. I just feel good about my reasons for somebody i am scum reading.

I haven't seen anyone else provide convincing reasons why somebody else is a better lynch, and I haven't see good reasons as to why my read on profli is wrong.

i see you haven't really made a good case on somebody so you can't really call me stubborn because I like my case

[Gustavo]

weird you can get a feel for me based off 1 completed town game..

[Gustavo]

weird you can get a feel for me based off 1 completed town game..

and that game I played completely different than I have this game...

[Gustavo]

yes it is, I don't speak any other languages. why do you ask such a weird question?

[Gustavo]

I’ve already provided reasons. Asking questions that have already been answered isn’t chill.

Also to maintain the chill I’m ignoring you as best as I can. The fact you picked a fight with me and then tried to play the victim is disgusting and regardless of your alignment I have no respect for you.

[Gustavo]

I don’t believe I’ve misinterpreted anything. Feel free to show me where you think I have and I’ll correct you or admit my mistake if you actually find something

[Gustavo]

Ok so now we have Rask content... easily town

Why does content = town?

Nah the content he provided was town, I just couldn’t be bothered to pick anything out... I’m interpreting being chill as an excuse to be lazy haha

By the way, this is a perfect example of what I just said.

I feel like anyone could have read Profii's post and figured out what he meant, but not Gus, who apparently only speaks English.

Well then you are mistake. 1. Profli wasn’t clear. 2. Now he’s clarified, I disagree. The posts rask made don’t make him obv town.

[Gustavo]

Mistaken*

[Gustavo]

I’m sorry I don’t just assume things. There was nothing wrong with asking profli to clarify

[Gustavo]

I'm sure I'm "mistaken" on this one too, but you misintepreted Inferno saying you had a lack of contribution to mean you had done nothing when that is not what lack of contribution means.

He said "lack of contribution"
I said " i contributed"
He response "I don't like your contribution"

His first post was contradicted by his 2nd post. It was just a mistake or it was a lie. Since he didn't correct himself, I interpret that as a lie. I am standing firm on this one. That was a straight up lie by him. It wasn't his only one either.

Anyone can build up the most posts in the game without actually doing anything and 73 posts in, I really feel like you just keep picking fights that come down to twisting other people's words and then claiming everyone is twisting your words.

inferno picked a fight with me, I haven't pick a fight with anyone. When a person lies about somebody else, they are the one picking the fight. So go blame inferno for the fight that happened.

also I can make as many posts as I want, not every post has to have content but a majority of my posts are actually game relevant. They are either responding to other players or are helping me explain my thoughts about my scum reads. If you have an issue about the amount of posts I am making, sorry I can't really help you there. I'm trying to be chill but i am also trying to play the game.

P-Edit: I'm not just talking about assumptions, I'm talking about reading something and figuring out what the words actually mean rather than being way too literal and seemingly misunderstanding them.

That post by profli was very vague and that was how I interpreted it. I wanted to make sure my interpretation was correct.

[Gustavo]

so how do you feel about the Rask slot?

null

[Gustavo]

and I haven't see good reasons as to why my read on profli is wrong.

The way I understand your profii case, it's strictly because "no-lynching is not anti-wincon". Is this correct?
If it is correct, I absolutely think this reasoning is wrong. No-lynching D1 absolutely is anti-wincon (for town).
If there is something more to it, you have not explained what the something more is, and doing so might help.

Well then your understanding is wrong. It would be helpful if you actually read my posts.

I don’t really understand where you’re coming from by saying no lynching is anti-wincon. That’s not what I’m scum reading you for though. Maybe that’s the issue? I was scum reading you when I voted you. Idk how to put it but your early posts all seem so fake to me. Like you are trying to appear town and it doesn’t come off as genuine. The whole no lynch thing was definitely some more fuel to my fire and maybe that’s why people are so hung up on that. Like I said earlier it looked like you were just throwing more dirt on rask who was already doing a good job making himself look bad and your conclusions to me don’t make sense logically. I’ve never seen anyone say no lynching is playing against their win condition. It’s not like he was going to actually gain momentum for it. Some people I’ve seen argue no lynching helps town and while I don’t agree I understand their logic. I don’t understand yours. I don’t see it coming from town unless they are a newbie which you aren’t. It’s hands down the best information available to us. Definitely better than the reasons others have given (magna for example)

[Gustavo]

nah

[Gustavo]

clearly you didn't read 306 because if you did you know that post is 100% false. Why do you keep lying about me when I can prove you wrong every single time?

[Gustavo]

How is that post false? All I did was look in your ISO and find it.

Or are you implying that I made that qoute up completely to make you look bad? Because if that’s the case, anyone can go to the post and see that what I’m saying is clearly true.

My scum read on profli cane before the whole no lynching thing. This is covered if you read post 306. I also mentioned the self vote stuff. There is no contradiction, there is a flow of developing a read strong enough to vote somebody and then they do more things to strengthen my read.

So like I said you are at best intentionally misrepping me. At worst flat out lying.

You could have saved yourself from some embarrassment if you read 306.

Also it just dawned on me. Earlier you said I was guilty of assumption by narrative. Only town can be guilty of that. Scum can’t make assumptions about who scum are.

[Gustavo]

Inferno390 has requested replacement.

I'm getting a little tired of saying this so early, but find a way to get along with one another or find another game. This was intended to be a low-pressure friendly game, and I'm not afraid of enforcing that rule.

I also don’t know what you intend to prove I’m lying about. You say that your read on Profii has nothing to do with the no lynch stuff. This post I pulled from your ISO shows you clearly stating something else. There’s nothing to prove I’m lying about here. All I’m doing is comparing two statements.

More misrepping. I never said my scum read had nothing to do with that. I clearly said that was icing on the cake. My scum read was based on my gut feel about his early posts. They felt fake. It’s kind of hard to put into words.

Stop trying to twist my words. Reading post 306 could have saved you from making this post.

[Gustavo]

Brassherald's interactions with Gustavo seem the most genuine in determining their alignment compared to others.

I have a lot of town reads at the moment, I think. I need to get a list of those together and figure out where to start looking from that point onward.

How? Brass basically tried to set me up as the bad guy when inferno is the bad guy. I asked for examples and he provided like 2 and both of them were bad examples.

[Gustavo]

Inferno390 has requested replacement.

I'm getting a little tired of saying this so early, but find a way to get along with one another or find another game. This was intended to be a low-pressure friendly game, and I'm not afraid of enforcing that rule.

Mafia games get heated. If me defending myself is going to be perceived as “unfriendly “ that’s not really fair to me. A mod shouldn’t try to change the way a player plays.

[Gustavo]

Though, I admit, the others were pretty much random.

People expect me to read so much in these games, we should just make audiobook versions of these games so I can participate better.

Could probably find an app to read the posts for you