NY 213 - Game Over!

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hop and tchill are town

gem and sky and vax and creature are the four people i still consider town based on the reasons from my 1512, vax having even less scum equity after tex brought further attention to (and attempted to heavily shade) his vig fakeclaim, creature having less after the texcat lynch, and gamma having a lot less considering I revealed to him my power role on night 2 yet i've been kept alive in favor of several VT kills since then

still don't feel great about TBG and I'd definitely lynch him over any of the names above. though he is admittedly rather low priority after yesterday

mylo reminds me of town mylo honestly. meh, there's plenty reasons to think he's scum this game but also reasons to think he's town

still feel bad about krazy for the reasons I gave in 5413. but again, lower priority

JJD pushing wheme lowers his scum equity but doesn't clear him. though texcat hard defending him the entire game (even chainsaw defending him at times) lowers it further

ankamius could very well be scum. someone give me a reason she's not. the andriod slot looks even worse now in retrospect than it did before, given flips and soft PoE

KK could also easily be scum here. i mentioned in 6385 that he shouldn't have much reason to be "excited" about a switch to texcat at that stage, when he had never been pushing tex and mostly been pushing TBG during day 5. sounded like a hollow bus

GR is my highest priority. I think his play and pushes have been opportunistic, one example of which i gave in 5518. i don't think there's any scenario where we should be keeping alive someone yesterday attempting to defend texcat, then today appeal-to-emotion self-voting, then backtracking on it after it didn't work and he got some votes. i dislike texcat's 1848 with "I guess it's up to Wheme and Robster". we know this is blatant scum/scum communication, and i see no reason to believe rob is not part of it. his claiming he was the mason partner of boon could be exactly like boon said, that he was trying to assess if the claim was real and possibly draw out the real partner to counterclaim. rob also authored post 6666 which means he is Satan

i'm 99% sure a lynch priority of GR -> KK -> anka -> JJD -> krazy -> mylo -> TBG -> Gamma -> Vax -> Creature -> Sky wins the game. even if the tail end turns out to be poorly ordered, the first few definitely contain the necessary scumflips to re-prioritize it correctly

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if gamma is scum, why am i still alive and most known conftowns dead

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if gamma is scum, why am i still alive and most known conftowns dead

Why would you be dead? You weren't conftown until today and you've been getting wagoned a lot before now

gamma has known my power role since night 2. if he's scum, the scumteam have known since day 2 that i was never getting lynched

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since day 3*

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my only hoodmate ausuka died night 3

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that is to say, he couldn't have known tchill joined the hood

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yep

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what makes you think my TR of vax has anything to do with you?

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It's really funny to me that the two slots that jumped right to Gamma's defense are two of the three people in my PoE pool too

let's say Kublai and skygazer are scum with Gamma and thus both know I'm a friendly neighbor. they knows this and yet try to wagon me yesterday and today?

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yes? why not?

if you were scum and there was a player you knew there was a player that can target people at night to confirm himself as town to them, you would A. leave that person alive long enough to target half the town, and then B. actively push that person day 5 and day 6? and you wouldn't care how that wagon would look to the people who know for a fact that he's town? can i ask why?

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elaborate

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Scum would be looking for signs of that, it should be pretty obvious by day five that it's probably not a threat since wagons on the slot keep popping up and there's no strong overall shift towards your slot being town.

but after my day 1 wagon of 7 (!) votes dissipated, i was literally never wagoned again until the day 5 wagon in question

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that would be valid if there were any real case for town!Robster besides his AtE

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if there's a protective, hop would be protected. i would not

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if there's a protective, hop would be protected. i would not

if there's a protective in a setup with 5 confirmable townies I'm going to be upset

i very much doubt there is

even if you're right, you're saying scum have somehow known since the beginning that there is no protective?

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because wave's using bad logic to justify townreading a slot I think has a decent chance of flipping scum

if you think this mechanical squabble is my only reason for townreading gamma, you're actually just not reading the game

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not at all

but those 4 specific townreads i mentioned, there's been little that has shaken them since day 1, so in those cases yes

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unless they're all town

in which case it's *MAGIC*

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why do you you say that

lol you think those three make for competent scum?

you think GR or KK or Krazy don't?

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lmao is the scumteam actually just {Wheme, texcat, Golden Robster, Kublai Khan, VaxKiller} ?

if so GG EZ

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the neighbors and masons weren't meant to be outed so early

but to avoid a late-game scenario where there are scum vs. 4-5 conftowns, they were given ample ability to PR-hunt

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VOTE: kublai khan

in the words of bombcat

"if this flips red let the record reflect i was on the wagon

if not, let it be known i was NOT on the wagon and was still making up my mind"

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VOTE: Golden Robster absolutely zero reason for this slot to stay alive

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@wavemode why do you think I'm scum? I was direct counter-wagon to gamma and floated at L-2 for most of d6

GR is my highest priority. I think his play and pushes have been opportunistic, one example of which i gave in 5518. i don't think there's any scenario where we should be keeping alive someone yesterday attempting to defend texcat, then today appeal-to-emotion self-voting, then backtracking on it after it didn't work and he got some votes. i dislike texcat's 1848 with "I guess it's up to Wheme and Robster". we know this is blatant scum/scum communication, and i see no reason to believe rob is not part of it. his claiming he was the mason partner of boon could be exactly like boon said, that he was trying to assess if the claim was real and possibly draw out the real partner to counterclaim. rob also authored post 6666 which means he is Satan

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but that reasoning ignores everything that transpired yesterday

what about what transpired yesterday nullifies what parts of my reasoning, exactly?

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he briefly voted you day 5. on day 6 he was like the 6th vote overall, if you factor in people who unvoted

not that any of this proves much in the first place. you yourself want to lynch vax, who tex wheme and gamma all pushed. even you recognize that bussing is the game of mafia, even at times when from the outside we might say "it's bad strategy for scum to have bussed there"

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yawn VOTE: JJD

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yo why do people take reads so personally

you don't build trust or respect by rubbing your correct reads (or their incorrect ones) in people's faces

sometimes you're right, sometimes you're wrong, that's mafia. and at the end of the day you're not always going to see eye to eye with another player

but if the scumteam can use the noise and toxicity to create chaos, wifom and AtE in the thread, you've simply shot yourselves in the foot

so relax

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I love that the mod of the mini I was in replaced into this game and this game's mod replaced into that at the same time