NY 213 - Game Over!

[texcat]

Confirming.

What are SUPP results?

[texcat]

Omg we have ausuka and osuka both playing???

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/confirm

The tension waiting for SUPP results is palpable.

I still want to know what SUPP results are.

VOTE: Pine

[texcat]

Thanks, Khan!

[texcat]

VOTE: osuka

Scummiest vibe.

I agree. It wasn't just the post that Pine pointed out. I thought the role cop claim smelled like old fish.

VOTE: OOOsuka

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VOTE: JarJarDrinks for jumping on the osuka bandwagon.

Why is that bad?

Thats what I wanna know. Why aint he townreading me for jumping on it?

And why pick JarJar? Quite a few people jumped on the Osuka bandwagon.

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I agree with A50 about Creature, but am willing to give Creature the benefit of doubt for the moment. Sometimes people do just get busy with their real lives.

[texcat]

Good question.

[texcat]

VOTE: Lalendra person

A50 is obv town here

So why the vote for Lalendra?

[texcat]

VOTE: Lalendra person

A50 is obv town here

I agree. this one is town too.

Can you explain this? I don't get it.

[texcat]

But what about Myloninja? He doesn't get a tr?

[texcat]

But what about Myloninja? He doesn't get a tr?

Probably just a passing comment and not her full reads; texcat, why are you voting osuka?

Why are you voting Osuka? I had an explanation in my vote post.

[texcat]

Maybe my major mistake is I decided to take this game a bit more seriously than I have most of my recent games?

Are you the same person that claimed survivor, named all of your scum buddies, and slipped and posted in the wrong PT? I' don't think your mistake is taking the game too seriously.

[texcat]

I agree with A50 about Creature, but am willing to give Creature the benefit of doubt for the moment. Sometimes people do just get busy with their real lives.

Not the texcat I used to know 2

You said this same thing the last game we played together and I was town then too.

[texcat]

Hey everyone!

Ok so I've been skimming up to pg 7 and I am just dying laughing at some of these funny posts. I mean, man. Smokebomb throwing, claiming bp pgo compulsive commuter...one of the funniest games I've seen in awhile.

On a serious note, I don't like asuka mentioning a traitor. I hosted an offsite game where I had a mafia traitor. It really looks like signaling of some sort , what she did. And that's not a good thing for town, if there's a traitor.

Personally I think there exists 4-6 scum in this 25 pool if I were to go by the 20% guideline.

The mentioning of creature lurking on d1 , is true from what I recall. He's the only one I played with in a large normal , years ago. Interestingly he was town that game. Unless it's one of my idols, I don't believe giving someone a free pass just because it's how they play, is a wise idea.

Anyway, have to continue my catchup. I have a big bunch of null right now.

Reading this as scummy

me too

This metoo post is not good. ETL, can you tell us anything about why you think the post was scummy?

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UNVOTE:

Sorry Ircher and everybody. 25 players and 13 pages already. Too much for me to keep up with and post any kind of intelligent analysis.

Ircher asked me to sign up as a favor and I did. There's a reason I don't play mafia. I am no good at mafia and I don't really enjoy it. I'll be over in the mish mash forum.

Please go ahead and replace me out.

this reads to me as someone that didnt want to roll scum but did.

This is towny.

What is "this"??? Are you saying JarJar's post is towny or Charles's post is towny?

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texcat

- you have asked a lot of questions - do you have any conclusions? or just reads.

My strongest scum reads are Osuka and ArcAngel9. I'm still waiting for ArcAngel9 to come back and explain 235. I definitely need to see more from her.
I am suspicious of Edos (because I thought A50's reasons had some merit), ETL (who explained his metoo post, but I'd like to see more), Lovebird (who jumped on the Edos bandwagon, but claimed it wasn't a sheep and claimed she had her own reasons, but didn't bother to tell us what they were).

[texcat]

oh wanted to mention that:

i;m townleaning osuka for consistent tone. confident in creature being town.

not interested in leading wagons because one is on what looks like an empty slot (would focus somewhere else for now) and town reading A50.

Empty slot?

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Setup Details

1. All private threads possess day talk.

More common than reading the rules evidently. :}

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Something like this sounds right

Town: Almost 50/JJD/Creature/Wheme/Charles(Vaxkiller)/Myloninja/KK/Dunn
Townish: Pine/Scion/Lovebird
Neutral/POE 1 pool: Robster, Android/ Flavor leaf/ Wave/Rampage/(Arc/ETL- considered in very light town)
POE 2 pool: Performer, Edosurist, Ausuka, Lalendra, Osuka, Texcat

Robster is the only active person in my neutral pile. Someone help me read him.

I mostly agree with your Town list. But can you explain how Myloninja snuck in there?

Re Robster, the unvote was odd. His reads mostly disagree with mine. But I haven't seen anything I would blatantly call scummy.

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texcat

- you have asked a lot of questions - do you have any conclusions? or just reads.

My strongest scum reads are Osuka and ArcAngel9. I'm still waiting for ArcAngel9 to come back and explain 235. I definitely need to see more from her.
I am suspicious of Edos (because I thought A50's reasons had some merit), ETL (who explained his metoo post, but I'd like to see more), Lovebird (who jumped on the Edos bandwagon, but claimed it wasn't a sheep and claimed she had her own reasons, but didn't bother to tell us what they were).

I hardly said anything in the game? How am I your strongest scum read? looks like a convenient read.

VOTE: textcat

Omgus2

Did you miss my posts (above and 242) asking you to explain 235?

Did you consider that perhaps hardly saying anything at all contributed to my scum reading you.

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@ArcAngel9. Can you answer my question in 242?

[texcat]

Dunnstral
Performer
Almost50
Golden Robster
Pine
Creature
HopKirk
Gamma Emerald
Lalendra
Lovebird
Myloninja13

These are town slots to me.

UNVOTE:

You were voting for Myloninja, weren't you? What changed? Also can you tell us about your tr on Lovebird?

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how doesn't one wagon have 3 times as many votes as any other? that tells me it's probably not right.

Really? Can you explain how that works?

My thinking is that if Osuka were town, he'd already be lynched. It's only when he's scum, and his buddies keep stalling and pushing back on his lynch, that he's still alive.

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No, I think his buddies are still trying to find a wagon that will get some traction.

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No, I think his buddies are still trying to find a wagon that will get some traction.

that's nonsense in a game this large at this point in the day.

you'd have to somehow believe that all the townies are acting so towny as to be seemingly impossible to lynch and also assume that the scum team is full of idiots. do you believe this to be true?

No, the large game means that there are a lot of townies who could potentially be an alternate wagon to scum!Osuka, and it's been hard to gain traction on a single one. Just look at the number of people with one or two votes. Plus it could be that the scum are among the lurkers -- we've certainly got a few. I'm waiting for one of them to step up as we get closer to deadline.

Look at Osuka's votes so far in this game: Wavemode (80) --> JarJarDrinks (124) --> ArcAngel9 (229) --> Pine (332) --> JarJarDrinks (353) --> Performer (769) --> TheRampage (771)
That looks like scum in search of an alternate wagon to me.

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VOTE: wavemode
I am willing to do this. Wave hasn't done anything to make me believe they are town. If we are lynching someone who hasn't done anything, my preference would be for ArcAngel9, but I understand that the neighborhood wants to clean itself up.

[texcat]

ausuka outing as IC makes it super clear that there could be other power roles in the hood which makes them nk worthy from scum pov

why lynch them at our own cost?

What makes you think scum will kill in the hood? They certainly wouldn't want to if there is scum in the hood, because it would narrow the pool and expose the scum. Even if there is no scum in the hood, the paranoia about it distracts town enough that I would never kill there as scum.

The risk of outing prs outside the hood, is substantial. Ausuka and I are pretty determined about wave.

I agree with Performer here. There

might

be PRs in the hood. But there are positively PRs outside the hood. We've already outed a claim (fake or not, at L-11) from Vax. Do we want to continue down that path?

ArcAngel9, Andriod18, Myloninja13

Hey guys. The above 3 players each have < 15 posts total and if u ISO them, there is zero content in those few post.


And guess how many people are voting for them? Not a single one. Can we stop telling scum that if they want to win all they have to do is lurk?


I recomend everyone pick one.


VOTE: Andriod18


scummiest of the 3 IMO

I agree with lynching/pressuring lurkers. Wavemode was on that list before the wagon on him. He's only started posting in the last couple of days. I disagree that we have time to start a new wagon on another lurker. But btw out of that group, ArcAngel9 would be my vote. She came in, dropped a vote on Performer, and left without saying anything. But it makes me more confident that out of the Wave v Performer wagons, Wave is the better one.

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Yeah, Ausuka, you're right, Myloninja13 is posting too comfortably to be scum

I keep questioning this and I've never played with Myloninja, so you may be right, but I didn't much like the naked Performer vote. Just not enough for me to go on.

[texcat]

Performer's opening post sounds off tonally but I don't think it's really relevant to anyone's alignment so if anything I think it's evidence that he can just sound off tonally in general?
wavemode hadn't really done anything up to that point so I think it's normal to not have a read on him.
I agree that Hopkirk is probably town.
I don't really think lalendra's post was towny? Like I think as mafia if you see something coming from town that you think is really obvtown, you're fairly likely to townread them for it.
I read performer's "why did you neighbourize me" thing as a joke.
It's true that wave has been lurking and not engaging, the point I was trying to make is that I feel wave is the scummiest lurker out there and it feels like what he's done is scum motivated. another thing I should bring up is that after getting wagoned he changed the behaviour that caused him to get wagoned- he no longer seems to believe in his philosophy of "go ahead and lynch me I'm just vt" and "We'll lynch town d1 so why bother lol"
I've never seen the majority of players in a neighbourhood being scum, can you link me to somewhere where that happened?
I agree that sajj is fairly scummy.

Performer has been very unsurvivalistic in the hood recently, softing a role that wants to be lynched. I think he's scum less than 1% of the time rn tbh.

And no I didn't say I'm a town vengeful.

Ausuka, Why have you changed your mind about Wavemode? Is it just because he's been more engaged? Has he started engaging in the PT? And you say you are town reading Performer. Is that just because he was softing vengeful? And yet he says not?

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I do not believe in the Performer wagon, and am willing to compromise elsewhere. Deadline approaching.

My spidey sense tingles that the neighborhood is TTT. It feels like a red herring.

The water is still fine on the Osuka wagon.

I mostly agree with this. I still think Wavemode might be scum, but Ausuka changing directions on him has me questioning it.

VOTE: Osuka

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I do not believe in the Performer wagon, and am willing to compromise elsewhere. Deadline approaching.

My spidey sense tingles that the neighborhood is TTT. It feels like a red herring.

The water is still fine on the Osuka wagon.

I mostly agree with this. I still think Wavemode might be scum, but Ausuka changing directions on him has me questioning it.

VOTE: Osuka

I dislike this vote and how you backtracked to it using the ic as a shield. explain your Osuka scumread and how Ausuka made you question your read on wave

I was explaining the part of Pine's post that I disagreed with: the TTT hood.

I voted Wave because the Osuka wagon wasn't going anywhere and we were approaching deadline. Both neighbors agreed on Wave and I disliked his disengaged attitude. Why wouldn't I backtrack to Osuka whom I was voting before, when the Wave wagon died? I didn't like Osuka's entrance, claiming scum role cop. I disagree with his reads, particularly JarJar.

If we're not lynching Osuka, I'm still willing to vote Wave and I still think AA9 is best lurker lynch, but I could compromise on Android if it comes down to Android or Performer.

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why do you dislike performer wagon out of nowhere? why you think its ttt? why you're willing to vote wave if you think it's ttt?

Sorry, I didn't realize I was being so unclear. Pine said the hood was TTT. I said I mostly agreed with his post, except I still thought Wave might be scum. (Although I did say that Ausuka's recent posts have made me less sure that Wave is scum than I was earlier.)

I dislike the Performer wagon because I think it's mostly based on his tone. I see Performer trying to sort people in way that looks townie. In addition, all of my scum reads are voting for him.

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@Tex/Wheme/Flavour Leaf: Why are your votes where they are?

Are you reading? I just had a conversation with FA about why I am voting Osuka.

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VOTE: Android

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Who do you think is doing the tricking?

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A50, yeah, I got that you think it's the scum team. I was wondering if you had any names in mind, but it can wait.

It looks like we may no lynch anyway. I guess it's up to Wheme and Robster. You think lynching a VT is better than no lynch? On the off chance he's scum? I actually think there's a good chance Android is scum, given what we have to go on from him.

[texcat]

VOTE: ArcAngel9

[texcat]

We should get Texcat today.. they read on me make no sense.


VOTE: Textcate

Speaking of not making any sense...

VOTE: Lalendra person

A50 is obv town here

I agree. this one is town too.

I've asked you about this post at least twice and never got an answer. Who is "this one"? Who are you calling town here?

two large wagons.....i am not figure this out.. but performer can give more information

VOTE: Performer

Can you tell us now what valuable information you got from the performer lynch?

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VOTE: texcat

Can I have your reasons behind this vote on tex? I would join that wagon from the looks of it but I would like to hear your reasons first and see if they match up with mine at all

Anybody got a flashlight? It's very dark under all this shade.

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Scum does all this why though?

To prevent getting lynched? To out the real vig? To draw the protection?

It's beginning to look to me like we might not have a vig. Although I guess it's possible that Vax was protected and targeted by either scum or the real vig.

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Oh another ugly naked vote from wavemode. :/

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Now that we have the Vax vig situation sorted out, it seems like A50 was the likely scum kill. I went back to look at A50 to see if there were any clues there. He had an early strong scum read on Edo, but I'm not sure it carried over to Gamma. Towards the end of the day, it looked like he wasn't reading because he voted Ausuka after the IC announcement. He voted Android, and he was pushing people to vote either Performer or Android, but at the very end of day he started thinking that they were both town and that scum had manipulated us into 2 town wagons. Ugh. It still looks like a vig kill.

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Could we get some pressure on ArcAngel please? Her vote on Performer was definitely the worst of the lot. She's due for her prod dodge this afternoon, it would be nice for her to see some votes when she pops in.

[texcat]

JarJar, Your reads list omitted Golden Robster, Hopkirk, Gamma, and Frozen Angel. Why did you omit those 4?

[texcat]

Thanks.

[texcat]

Man I want jar jar lynched but VOTE: Vax

Ugh. So why not vote JarJar?

[texcat]

Now that we have the Vax vig situation sorted out, it seems like A50 was the likely scum kill. I went back to look at A50 to see if there were any clues there. He had an early strong scum read on Edo, but I'm not sure it carried over to Gamma. Towards the end of the day, it looked like he wasn't reading because he voted Ausuka after the IC announcement. He voted Android, and he was pushing people to vote either Performer or Android, but at the very end of day he started thinking that they were both town and that scum had manipulated us into 2 town wagons. Ugh. It still looks like a vig kill.

it's not a vig kill

what do you think of a50 kill after reading his ISO?

can you talk to me about why you think scum would nk a50?

I thought I just did. Am I being that unclear? The simplest explanation for the kill is that scum did it. That's why I said he "was the likely scum kill". As for why, I didn't see any apparent reason (though I am always bad at picking out breadcrumbs), hence it still looked like a vig kill to me.

What do you think???

[texcat]

Are you going to vote for anyone?

[texcat]

Mylo slipped down to scumlean on my list with that vote on PP. I don't see any reason for it at all, and it seemed like he was opportunistically picking on someone that he knew was not around when he was pressured to throw down a vote.

I agree. Although the reason for it was just because I asked if he was going to vote. The continued beetlejuicing cannot be a coincidence or a joke. Mylo appears to be reading and appears when mentioned, but no more than that.

VOTE: Myloninja

[texcat]

Sigh. Flavor Leaf is not a mason. It seems unlikely that the game contains masons AND neighbors, possibly but unlikely. It's not possible that FL's first claim is his true role. Just go look at his meta. He makes many claims during a game and I don't think the first one has ever been true. I've never understood the motivation for doing this, but I don't think it necessarily means he's scum.

[texcat]

Sigh. Flavor Leaf is not a mason. It seems unlikely that the game contains masons AND neighbors, possibly but unlikely. It's not possible that FL's first claim is his true role. Just go look at his meta. He makes many claims during a game and I don't think the first one has ever been true. I've never understood the motivation for doing this, but I don't think it necessarily means he's scum.

First one’s been true a bunch of times. Sometimes I change it and he second or third ones aren’t true. But the first ones have been true a bunch of times.

Also been through games with being the only one who hadn’t claimed.

I play every game in the moment. :shrug: it gets results.

Everytime you’ve been scum in a game with me Texcat, I caught you out.

OK, I stand corrected. You might be a mason. Or you might not. I wouldn't bet the ranch, or the house either way. I might be willing to bet the outhouse than you're not a mason though.

I don't remember ever making it even close to end game as scum, so I completely believe that you've caught me every time.

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@mod

What are the chances for a deadline extension? With 22 alive, we need 12 to lynch. If we assume that 5 or 6 of the 22 are scum, then that leaves only 16 or 17 townies available to lynch scum. And we have ETL waiting to be replaced, Pine totally MIA, and Frozen Angel still missing after her VLA ended yesterday. If those 3 happen to be town, then town is going to have to be almost unanimous in their vote, or rely on scum bussing, in order to lynch scum.

[texcat]

What about Mylo?

[texcat]

The fact that Wheme, Lalendra, and Mylo are on PP also points towards PP town. They’re either scum joining on, or town that is being used a scum sheep votes for scum.

Wheme likely has the worst ISO in this game, to be honest. We had Wave, who I think is town, alongside the masons and Penguin being the only ones on the Wheme wagon initially when PP was picking up steam.

Have you looked at Mylo's ISO? Have you looked at ArcAngel's ISO (though it has improved somewhat with BrawlGuy's replace in)?

After yesterday I feel okay with my vote on Wheme.

I have no idea how Texcat could make that post asking about extension (not to say it looked like giving an extension would suggest answer) and then asks about Mylo.

I have this sneaking suspicion that scum is controlling this game. Perhaps it's just my bad gut. The one advantage that town has over scum is numbers. And we give up that advantage when so many players are not playing.

Yesterday when we started consolidating wagons, it looked like it was going to be either Performer or Wavemode. And then it actually ended up being Performer and Android. And today, it looked like it was going to be Penguin and Robster, but now it's looking like Penguin and Wheme. Based on this alone, I'd say Wavemode and Robster are likely scum.

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Whoa. You might be able to make a case that Wheme bussed JJD, but JJD was pushing Wheme's lynch hard. You think that was bussing too??

[texcat]

Whoa. You might be able to make a case that Wheme bussed JJD, but JJD was pushing Wheme's lynch hard. You think that was bussing too??

He didn't vote Wheme until the point where our only strong wagons were Wheme and PP. In his large readslist he had previously marked Wheme as Scum (and done nothing with it), and PP as a townlean, so he had essentially forced himself into that vote anyway. He didn't actually start pushing hard on Wheme until after Wheme's been run to L-1 and is the obvious lynch anyway. That's pretty textbook bussing.

Also, small bias here, but:

I didn't think TBG unvoting was scummy. I agree it's good to stay out of hammer length.

But I think the response to FL is kind of scummy. I read it as him very much wanting towncred for the lynch.

If JJD is Scum, he knows very well that Wheme is about to flip red and that I'd potentially get towncred for Wheme's flip.

Wheme had 4 votes when JJD voted him. I think he was pretty early on the wagon and then pushed hard to get the lynch done. It does not look like bussing to me. And note to self, if it turns out to be bussing, I don't ever want to be scum with JJD and on the receiving end of that bus.

Hi I'm here sorry

VOTE: Myloninja

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Im going to go ahead and say "Claim"

Just because Vax escaped the lynch once by claiming vig, does not mean this isn't scum.

And I'd assume that there'd be at least a scum off the wagon and another near the end of it too.

nice I agree

mylon gets a pass d3

seriously? off of such a vanilla copypasta response? no thanks

Surely Robster just forgot to hold up the sarcasm sign, no?

@Scioness not really suspecting mylo but him giving a full on pass based off such a plain post is just wtf-worthy

fair, do you actually have a read on mylo?

There's certainly not much there to have a read on, but what is there is scummy as all get out.

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Just because Vax escaped the lynch once by claiming vig, does not mean this isn't scum.

he retracted and had some lines that genuinly felt like it came from town

do you think vax is a super capable scum player?

Vax? I don't know how capable he is. I do know that request for a claim was scummy, whatever his few lines were that you thought were town.

And I'd assume that there'd be at least a scum off the wagon and another near the end of it too.

nice I agree

mylon gets a pass d3

seriously? off of such a vanilla copypasta response? no thanks

I mean I agree with the reasoning so what's the problem?

giving a free pass to mylo because I don't SR him

do you SR mylo?

You mean that was not sarcasm? Some scum were on the wagon, and some scum were off the wagon. It's hard to disagree with that, but you give him a pass? You don't scum read him. Does that mean you're town reading him?

expected you to have obvtowned already

he obvtowned when he fakeclaimed vig.

This is sarcasm, right?

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why is vax commonly TR'd?

why is texcat commonly SR'd?

these are my two biggest questions atm.

I TR vax cuz fake claiming vig as scum is about as dumb of a play as one could make.

I don't SR tex.

I agreed originally with you about fake claiming vig, but I now think it's only dumb to continue the fake. It looks like if you disclaim everything the next day and then lie low, you can easily get away with it and even get town reads for it.

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I agreed originally with you about fake claiming vig, but I now think it's only dumb to continue the fake.

vax retracted

So? And isn't that what I said? Sorry, perhaps disclaim is not the right word. Retracting a fake claim does not make it town. Do you for some reason think that scum can't make fake claims and then retract them?

I agreed originally with you about fake claiming vig, but I now think it's only dumb to continue the fake. It looks like if you

disclaim

retract everything the next day and then lie low, you can easily get away with it and even get town reads for it.

[texcat]

these lines from vax feel honest and genuine

what do you think about them?

Just because they feel honest and genuine does not mean that they are not from scum. Isn't it possible that scum!Vax felt bad about being a lynch candidate on D1? And clearly a scum!Vax could genuinely hope that "im really going to fuck over town". I'm not saying that the fake claim here is necessarily scummy, but there is no reason to town read Vax because he fake claimed.

Your fake mason claim was not made to escape the lynch. It was made in some misguided attempt at gaining information for town. Different things entirely.

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He retracted the claim the next day though.

The reason it's dumb to fakeclaim vig as scum is cause if there is a real vig out there then he will shoot you.

Retracting the claim the next day doesn't remove the reason for it being a terrible scum play.

Thanks. I get you. I was thinking that it was just because you'd be exposed sooner rather than later as fake. And Rob's explanation that it was Vax's appeal to emotion that made him town didn't help.

[texcat]

Now if I could just understand why people are town reading Mylo....

[texcat]

I can't tell if mylo is still here. If only there was someone who could tell us.

This actually made me laugh out loud.

[texcat]

VOTE: kublia khan

VOTE: kublia khan

wtf is this shit?

Also van just voted kublai. Nobody finds that suspicious?

Vax has done a lot of suspicious stuff. but he's getting a pass for fake claiming vig. While I do understand that the real vig is likely to kill you and that it seems like a stupid play from scum, I'm still not willing to give him a pass for it. Especially since he did it with a wink, "NOONE counter. I aint syaing shit else". But I think there are better votes right now.

I don't understand why lalendra isn't a good lynch today. She naked voted to get on the wagon. Only scum reads TBG which half the game scum reads... I haven't seen any sorting from her...

do we want lalendra anywhere near lylo

I agree that we can't let someone who isn't paying attention to the game, like Lala, to the endgame. I don't think she's a horrible lynch today. But I think Myloninja is a better lynch. Mylo does seem to be paying attention to the game, as evidenced by his continued beetlejuicing. He has not contributed anything at all to the game however. I don't understand why Gamma is willing to give him another day. We've been playing to 5 weeks and Mylo's given us nothing. Why does he get another week?

[texcat]

do we want lalendra anywhere near lylo

that's terrible approach

Why?

[texcat]

I'm pretty sure scum is going to have to kill Ausuka before endgame.

[texcat]

Also curious if anybody TRs Dunn?

I was at least leaning town on Dunn, but I sure don't like that he has been voting Mylo forever and then suddenly switched to Creature when the Mylo wagon started gaining a little momentum.

[texcat]

Wow. Krazy's throwing everything he's got at me.... memes, cookies, and choo choo noises.

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Yes, I am still scum reading Mylo.

Looking at my wagon, I'm pretty sure either Krazy or Dunn is scum. I don't think both of them can be. I keep having my doubts about Creature, but I can't believe he's actually scum posting this much. I'm surprised by TBG. I thought he was more logical than to follow memes and cookies onto my wagon.

[texcat]

VOTE: texcat

Sajjwagon is fine, but I think texcat wagon is better odds.

TBG, what makes you think my wagon is better odds? This seems like an awkward way to justify a vote.

[texcat]

VOTE: Dunnstral

[texcat]

Could Mylo's double-voting abilities, actually be double-bussing abilities?

[texcat]

Catching up...

I'll be blatantly obvtown by the time day ends barring a quicklynch (which would almost certainly be on town so)

So it will basically be true

**Raises skeptical eyebrow**

[texcat]

Very quickly Vax goes from voting Krazy to saying that Krazy's post makes sense and voting Gamma. How does something like that happen?

Spoiler: Vax posts

lama apology

VOTE: krazy

I've interpreted pp's dying pixelated scream into a vote

VOTE: gama'
hmm this makes sense

no seriously tho.

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@Mylon Hopkirk basically accused you of being too lazy to do meta reads at the end of last game day, lol. Are you scum because you keep saying you've meta'd people but actually you haven't?

The former is fair lol, but if I were actually scum then that would be one of the least scummiest things about me lol.

Too scummy to be scum? Is that your defense? And did you actually answer the question?

is it possible that the only reason Hopkirk is alive is his end-of-day case on mylo?

I think Hopkirk is alive is because scum figured he would be protected. Why PP rather than someone else is a good question, but, of course, the wifom could go either way.

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hey Vax, maybe it'd be easier to get people to vote for me if u point them to where you explain why u think I'm scum.

where is that again?

Its day 1. I have no reasons!

You are not on my town list nor are on anyone elses. I think it's a great place to start. You have done nothing since your wagon has started to dissuade me from lynching you.

There is also an added bonus that I will talk about tomorrow.

Lets get this party started so can do like Bob Seager says and work on my Night Moves.

@Vax, what was this about an added bonus?

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When are we going to have a push to lynch Mylo?

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Tex what happened to your Wave scumread?

It was a D1 read, based in part on what was going on in the hood. I had a town read on Performer, and both Ausuka and Performer thought Wave was scum. Ausuka backed off and Wave has looked more town in later days.

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VOTE: TBG

L-1

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VOTE: TBG

L-1

where did this read come from?

It came from JJD asking someone to vote or intent on TBG.
It came from me preferring the TBG lynch to the Scion lynch.
It came from my very scummy read of TBG's predecessor, ArcAngel.
It came from OMGUS.

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We are not lynching JJD today. If we need an alternate wagon, may I suggest Vax or Mylo?

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this day went very differently than the last two)

How is today different?

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VOTE: TBG

L-1

where did this read come from?

It came from JJD asking someone to vote or intent on TBG.
It came from me preferring the TBG lynch to the Scion lynch.
It came from my very scummy read of TBG's predecessor, ArcAngel.
It came from OMGUS.

okay these feel fake

going to double-check your iso

just checked and you have zero mention of TBG predecessor; how am I supposed to believe you on that?

the rest of the reasons don't differentiate you from town vs scum

also how is omgus a reason?

You asked for my reasons and I gave them to you. They may not be the best reasons, they may not be a convincing case on TBG, but they are not fake. Oh, or were you expecting me to say that your case on TBG is what convinced me?

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That was really a bad series of posts from Vax. He has been scummy the entire game, and yet his one post fake claiming vig is letting him survive.

On the other hand, JJD has been townie the entire game and had one post asking for claims, and scum jumped on it.

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someone tell me I'm just paranoid.

You are just paranoid. TChill is just keeping his vote on the lynch that is likely to go through. If you had done the same thing, you might be paranoid about getting NK'd right now.

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Krazy spent 15 seconds looking at my ISO and pointed out where I voted ArcAngel. You said you looked at my ISO but didn't find it? I'm guessing that you actually didn't look at my ISO. And while you're ISOing, you can look at TBG's and see where he's voted me off and on several times, hence the OMGUS. Aren't you voting TBG? Are you trying to talk me off of him? Are you trying in advance to build a case that I am bussing TBG?

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VOTE: TBG

So much for my last minute SS push.

Hammering within the hour.

Wasn't Hopkirk's vote L-2?

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Votecount 5.18
TehBrawlGuy(7) ~ Tchill13(130), Golden Robster(62), Kublai Khan(23), Texcat(12), Myloninja13(18), JarJarDrinks(66), Wavemode(54)

JJD left and Hopkirk voted. I make that as still 7.

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it's day five and texcat still has less posts than a50. she didn't got prodded even once. posts enough content to not draw attention too much themselves
10/10 lurking

But at least I have posted content, unlike Mylo.

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Does anyone have any idea what the vote count is? I can't believe that we are not going to lynch TBG. WTF happened while I was driving home?

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Again people trying to deflect the lynch at the last minute.

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Well, after TBG flips scum and/or I flip town, it should be an easy game to just lynch your way through those who jumped on my wagon. Cause I'm pretty sure that's where the scum are.

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Golden Robster - eh, i would probably need more time to write about this slot. it's like null with scumlean.
Krazy - he gives me all kinds of bad vibes but i wouldn't lynch anytime soon, a lot would be solved for me based on tex flip. gives me vibes of really impudent scum. was thinking that he might have been distancing from GR but eh, wouldn't put much stock into it.
Creature - town, i talked about you already.
Kublai Khan - where is he????
Gamma Emerald - probably town after all. he does do thinking that he really doesn't have to do.
Tchill13 - i think i get why he operates by now, porb town. he wouldn't be pushing mislycnhes as he did if scum
Skygazer - maybe scum but i'd bet on disinterested town.
JarJarDrinks - porb scum
Ankamius - i'd lie if i said i have any idea how to read this slot
Texcat - scum
TehBrawlGuy - i guess i would say he is more likely to be town.
Vaxkiller - i guess town becuase of how wheme has confused him with srceenplay slot.
Wavemode - don't much to say so it's meta based. prob scum. also he had that random flip from townwheme to scumwheme.
Myloninja13 - more likely scum on tex green flip

You're most confident on me with this reads list? Your town reads are Creature, TBG, Gamma, and Vax, really??

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Myloninja13 - more likely scum on tex green flip

And this is telling. That your read on Mylo is based on my green flip. You know I'm going to flip green, don't you?

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VT

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And thanks for the count.

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And you'll probably get one from some poor misguided townie who thinks lynching a VT is better than a no lynch. Good luck town. You're going to need it.

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JJD, would it help if I switched to SS? The problem has been that town has divided their votes between the 2 competing wagons, letting scum CFD this.

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They tried to lynch you and then when that didn't work, they all switched to me.

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Skygazer, Ank, maybe Creature.

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If there is scum off my wagon it's probably Mylo.

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Skygazer, Ank, maybe Creature.

Misguided town these are.

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There's no way I am alive tomorrow and I do anybody but texcat

Seriously people learn to compromise you all being high and mighty is what's the problem with this game

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Well done, townies!

Krazy, You had all of the scum nailed within hours of replacing in. How did you do that?!

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Hilarious and impressive!