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I'm not good at being town core. I prefer being suspected the whole game long
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In post 383, Almost50 wrote: The game is multiball. One White Mafia vs Another Black Mafia
?In post 383, Almost50 wrote: The last game I saw this declaration it was true, and it came straight form a scum player!-
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I got that. I'm just saying your "theory" about there being a White and a Black Mafia could also come from you being Mafia and already knowing this.In post 402, Almost50 wrote:
2nd quote: I was in a game where a Mafioso claimed to be Informed out of the gate. They either claimed scum had a Strongman or a Ninja ability (I don't remember which). Scum did have two of them in fact iirc (either 2 Strongman roles or 2 NinJa roles). And then the prince married the princess and they lived happily ever after.In post 394, VaultDweller wrote:In post 383, Almost50 wrote: The game is multiball. One White Mafia vs Another Black Mafia
?In post 383, Almost50 wrote: The last game I saw this declaration it was true, and it came straight form a scum player!-
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I thought it meant that Town was White and Mafia was Black, or something similar.In post 503, Almost50 wrote:
Yes, it could. Yet it could equally be from the fact the game is literally called BLACK VERSUS WHITE MAFIA?In post 484, VaultDweller wrote:
I got that. I'm just saying your "theory" about there being a White and a Black Mafia could also come from you being Mafia and already knowing this.In post 402, Almost50 wrote:
2nd quote: I was in a game where a Mafioso claimed to be Informed out of the gate. They either claimed scum had a Strongman or a Ninja ability (I don't remember which). Scum did have two of them in fact iirc (either 2 Strongman roles or 2 NinJa roles). And then the prince married the princess and they lived happily ever after.In post 394, VaultDweller wrote:In post 383, Almost50 wrote: The game is multiball. One White Mafia vs Another Black Mafia
?In post 383, Almost50 wrote: The last game I saw this declaration it was true, and it came straight form a scum player!-
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Real or fake?In post 531, Croag wrote:i dot understand why it hasnt been hammered yet
like havent we gone into twilight many times
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You mean by asking "Why am I being voted"? Is that a scumtell to you?In post 616, Croag wrote:I just don't like his responses at all to being voted
That was the only response to being voted as far as I can see. The rest of the time he was V/LA.-
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Join me on the Croag wagonIn post 638, Vorkuta wrote:Like the fact that we still don't have a relevant counter-wagon against arc-
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@croag
In post 624, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
What don’t you like about it?In post 616, Croag wrote:Lol i got nothing else to say really except i think we should get arc
I am not claiming cop or anything
I just don't like his responses at all to being voted-
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What is BW?In post 644, Croag wrote:
with such a heavy and seemingly random BW its odd that his literal only reaction is 'why am i being voted'In post 641, VaultDweller wrote:@croag
In post 624, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
What don’t you like about it?In post 616, Croag wrote:Lol i got nothing else to say really except i think we should get arc
I am not claiming cop or anything
I just don't like his responses at all to being voted-
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Finally! I usually get scumread for this middle of Day 1. It is now the end of Day 2 and someone has finally picked up on this. You are now Town.In post 810, johhny sno wrote:vault dweller is making pushes on pretty easy to push people and not much else (dgb, croag, clem)
i also don't feel like he's using his vote effectively at all so; he's not really applying pressure, just kind of placing votes and coasting
VOTE: Vault Dweller
On a related note, I will start playing this game properly from tomorrow; I should have some extra spare time then.-
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Chemist is probably town
Clemency should come back and play
Is Creature even in the game anymore?
croag really needs to contribute more. I usually don't scumread inactivity, but in this case it just rubs me the wrong way.
Everything sno has accused me of could be applied to Darth Baker as well, with some extra fluff posting thrown in
ethos can be town for now
johnny sno is town
Lapsa is a solid null. Feels like someone I would need a meta on to read
Uzi seems town
Mumble is another bandwagoner. I would like to hear his read on me which is not just a rehash of what everyone else has said
I can believe Rick's claim for now
roster doesn't seem to have any real reads. He just seems to go with the flow
Vorkuta has been talking the most sense so far in this game for me.-
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I have to add that this post wasn't an attempt to generate discussion, it was just an amusing observation.In post 739, VaultDweller wrote:I like how everyone complains about how dead this game is, but no one is making any attempt to change that fact-
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In post 860, Almost50 wrote:
Did he claim anything other than being informed scum have a Ninja?In post 843, VaultDweller wrote:I can believe Rick's claim for now
I assumed this was real.In post 733, Rick Dalton wrote:I’m still informed, but I’m also an ungated tracker, which is dumb because there’s ninjas, so I’m uninspired.-
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This sounds like half the game.In post 850, johhny sno wrote:but he hasn't *really* been actively pushing them, and has basically been following the leading wagons around.-
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Double voter spotted
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Information. Ethos was the leading wagon besides myself. And I almost never shoot my own reads, I don't trust them enough.In post 982, Mumble wrote:Why did you shoot eth0s? You were voting Croag at EOD.-
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In post 816, Vorkuta wrote:In post 815, VaultDweller wrote:I usually get scumread for this
kIn post 176, VaultDweller wrote:I'm not good at being town core. I prefer being suspected the whole game long
I can buy it
Town reading me is a scum tell.In post 984, Vorkuta wrote:I'm waiting for a CC, but I buy it-
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Ding ding ding! We have a winner! I also happen to be ascetic. There is no way you could have tracked meIn post 1001, Rick Dalton wrote:I tracked Vault to Ethos. He’s telling the truth.
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Umm, for this exact situation?In post 1073, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
VOTE: VaultDwellerIn post 1059, VaultDweller wrote:
Ding ding ding! We have a winner! I also happen to be ascetic. There is no way you could have tracked meIn post 1001, Rick Dalton wrote:I tracked Vault to Ethos. He’s telling the truth.
VOTE: Rick Dalton
Why didn’t you claim that you are ascetic in your opening posts then?-
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MVP this game is "mod error"In post 1123, rosterfoster wrote:UNVOTE:
There is some weird role stuff mixing with mod errors (I’m allowed to talk about it but I’ve not figured out how to explain it - give me some sleep and I will) which means that while I think VD is probably scum I need some clarification.
So please don’t speedlynch this until I come back.-
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I'm pretty sure the explanation here is that he thought you targeted someone else. Remember, there is a un-CC'd kill on ethos. So that part of my claim is true at least. Which means the vanilla result on me is definitely wrong.
Here is my humble request. Let me live for one more day so that I can (attempt to) use my JK power. Tomorrow I am effectively a VT, then you can speedlynch me all you want.-
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I hard claim that I have been speaking the truth the whole time. I may not have been speaking the whole truth all of the time, but I have never outright lied. I'm pretty sure you and rosterfoster haven't lied either. The only player who have lied, and admitted to it, is Rick.In post 1143, Chickadee wrote:n-
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Oops, I was quoting thisIn post 1143, Chickadee wrote:There's too much lying and confusion going on, and I don't know what to think.-
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Nope, still 1-shotIn post 1184, johhny sno wrote:since no one claimed the second kill and they apparently lied about being ascetic, i think vault dweller is a SK btw-
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AgainIn post 1257, Vorkuta wrote:Oh look- fresh meat-
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Funnily enough, I've used this exact defense myself quite often as town, and I always get lynched. Can't imagine why.In post 1250, Rick Dalton wrote:
What do you want me to say? I’m not scum because I’m town. Just because you think i have scummy play, doesn’t make my role pm miraculously change.In post 1242, VaultDweller wrote:Rick, tell me why you're not scum WITHOUT referencing other games. Because your whole defense is basically "This isn't my scum meta". So you are saying that you're a good enough player to know what your scum meta is, but not a good enough player to manipulate it. I don't buy it.
There’s no real reason besides that. Sure, there’s the case on me, i get it. It’s understandable. But I’m not scum-
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Anything else to comment on in the game? What is your reads on everyone else? Because this being your only post after catching up is incredibly scummy.
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Ok, here's my "look town" move:
Slankers and/or sheeping players - Croag, DB
Players popping in, making some reads and disappearing again - johnny sno, LUV, mumble
Players changing their reads constantly - a50, Rick Dalton, Vorkuta
Players who's claims I believe and probably won't be voting today - Chickadee, rosterfoster
New players whom I have yet to sort - Pmysterious, The Fonz
Pretty pointless list, but just thought I'd put it out there.-
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Based on what everyone has said of Rick, do you still believe he is scum, or is it more of a PL?In post 1311, The Fonz wrote:Someone's been caught in a lie;-
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I'm glad you pointed out point 5, because it is something I noticed as well. I especially like how these two posts are right after each other (emphasis mine):
In post 1287, Rick Dalton wrote:
A50, if you’re scum, this is the scummiest post you’ve made this game. Scratch that, this is the scummiest post you’ve made all game. I still think you’re probably town.In post 1284, Almost50 wrote:@Fonz: That's literally how Rick Dalton play as either alignment.
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I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though, but trust me when I say it a thing on MS to never believe a claim from Flavor Leaf (Risk Dalton's main) or Bambi Jay/Elsa Jay (another player who uses 2 famous alts) and never "trust" A50's claims on D1.
You back tracked because Fonz says that’s literally his meta.Why is that AI at all then?
That just makes it so it’s the perfect push tbh.This actually could be A50/Fonz scum pairing if I go deeper, but I don’t really know. I don’t really have a strong clue where scum is right now.In post 1288, Rick Dalton wrote:In post 1279, PMysterious wrote:Rick, I find your posts to be all over the place. The only thing that could be true is that there is at least one Ninja in this game. Everything else just confuses me, almost like an enigma.That’s how you can tell I’m town.
Ask A50 how consistent I am as scum. I’m a cunning sociopath.
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