SORRY. I did eat some cabbage and beans.In post 2256, Cliff Booth wrote:I thought something smelled funny
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Not all of them. I am sitting tight with my lips sealed.In post 2268, Billy Pilgrim wrote:So maybe this game isn't role madness and all of our prs have just outted themselves. Fun.I AM THE LAW!-
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No. No Result is the correct format for this sight. It's in the wiki. You get "No actions were performed on your target" if you target someone who can be targeted and wasn't visited by anyone else. You get "C, Y & Z actions were performed on your target" if you target someone who can be targeted and was also targeted by others. You get "No Result" if you target an Ascetic, a Commuter, a Hider, a target that was made Ascetic by being targeted by a Rolestopper, just as well as if you yourself have been RB'd or JK'd.In post 2270, Garmr wrote:Would that mean a roleblocker targeted me then?I AM THE LAW!-
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@Carca: I swear I am not acting up. This is a mere friendly advice and nothing more: On D1 you claim Ascetic but NOT Masons. You don't put your Mason buddy at the top of your reads list if you have no in-thread reason to support/justify the read. Of course, that is unless you Mason buddy is FL or me, because we will claim it and nobody would believe us.I AM THE LAW!-
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Don't give me directions. Please and thank you.In post 2296, gobbledygook wrote:
To be fair, Rick’s actions thus far are par for the course. If we have a vig he or she should just kill Rick.In post 2292, Carcalilly wrote:In my nightmares I see myself and the rest of town too stubborn to lynch scum!Dalton because even though he's scummily glazing by, it's not "scum indicative for him" or some shit.I AM THE LAW!-
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Oh, yes.. YES. THANK YOU. I am that too.In post 2309, AaronFrost wrote:I think you forgot about the Friendly Neighbor part.I AM THE LAW!-
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In post 2318, Carcalilly wrote:
It's an action adventure game called "Catch the scum". You get to choose your starter weapon.In post 2312, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:
Sure. I LOVE gamesIn post 2307, Carcalilly wrote:hey jjd wanna play a game
The "townizer" makes it so that you quit your silly murking and allow yourself to be readable.
Alternativley, you can refuse that weapon and obtain the "mirror" and instantly win the game because you've found scum.
Carca, my dear friend. You have played with me enough times to be able to get a hint. I am 100% Town here, and you should be able to tell if you refer to both the game I was Town with scum you (the RC, PP, N_M, Skitter, NC.. etc one) AND the one I was Scum with Town you (The one with Saudade and FL as IC??). I've been VERY TRANSPARENT to you all. (OK, that's a lie.. I wasn't completely transparent, but still.. close enough)I AM THE LAW!-
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How about EVEN Night Vig?? (See? You can't beat me in the game of fake claiming!)In post 2321, gobbledygook wrote:
You're not the vig. Knowing you, there definitely would be an extra kill.In post 2304, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:
Don't give me directions. Please and thank you.In post 2296, gobbledygook wrote:
To be fair, Rick’s actions thus far are par for the course. If we have a vig he or she should just kill Rick.In post 2292, Carcalilly wrote:In my nightmares I see myself and the rest of town too stubborn to lynch scum!Dalton because even though he's scummily glazing by, it's not "scum indicative for him" or some shit.I AM THE LAW!-
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We should ask for a full read list thenIn post 2329, Garmr wrote:How to win mafia scum.
Lynch texcat
Did she flip scum
if yes congrats you lynched scum.
If no lynch lynch her town reads you'll have lynched scum congrats you won.
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Ok.. then I shot Garmr. that's why I am confident he's town.In post 2332, gobbledygook wrote:I think this frustration means Garmr is more likely town.I AM THE LAW!-
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I don't believe your claim, but I've shot you too so you're town (and most likely bluffing).In post 2352, Rick Dalton wrote:
I legit am doctorIn post 2306, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:Guys.. I'm the Vig. I am also the Doctor. And aside from being a Cop, Jailer and Tracker I am also a Fruit Vendor. (Did I miss anything??)
So... who did I shoot already?? Cliff, Rick, Garmr, most likely dave and probably Titus (yeah, it was a bit foggy last night and I had to finish my mission quick to get to my favourite dancer's number at a gentlemen's club).
I -of course- didn't need to waste a bullet on Carca as she had fake claimed Mason to protect the real Mason who will remain unnamed, so I deduced she must be town too.I AM THE LAW!-
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No shit? I bet half the players are PRs at the very least. We have a VOYEUR (not a strong investigative, is it?), a pair of Masons (yeah, and one is already dead), and having a look at my role I kinda think this is a Role Madness game disguised as a Normal. The problem is half the PRs (if not more) are USELESS.In post 2362, Rick Dalton wrote:Also, Cliff is a PR, get off of him
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What question? It was an informative statement. Do you see a question mark?In post 2405, AaronFrost wrote:
I wish I knew the answer to this question.In post 2403, Carcalilly wrote:the fuck going onI AM THE LAW!-
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You "think"??? Oh, God, No. Not another one.In post 2417, Cliff Booth wrote:On a serious note, from what I have gathered, I think I essentially have negative town utility
Can you reread your role PM and contact the mod if needs be to make sure you know what you role is, and then come back to tell us if it IS a negative utility? (I don't suppose you'd be unsure about Miller,Ascetic.. etc.)I AM THE LAW!-
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Of course there was. It tells us there is a FUCK in this game, and that it was happening AT THE TIME OF THAT POST. Duh!In post 2420, AaronFrost wrote:
There was nothing informative in that statementIn post 2414, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:
What question? It was an informative statement. Do you see a question mark?In post 2405, AaronFrost wrote:
I wish I knew the answer to this question.In post 2403, Carcalilly wrote:the fuck going on
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the term you're looking for isIn post 2444, Cliff Booth wrote:@Rick Dalton
Do you not think that a neapolitan basically has negative town utility in a role madness game? Specifically in a game that no one knows is role madness?. Negative Utility HARMS the Town, and Nea -albeit useless- does NOT hurt the town. It doesn't give us false results. It doesn't prevent other TPRs from doing their job. It doesn't result in extra kills. So, no.. Nea is NOT a Negative Utility.USELESSI AM THE LAW!-
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Mate.. Neapolitan is never used in a -say- 50% VT game. That would be damn too powerful. You can literally confirm half of the players. Maybe a Vanilla Cop instead (gets the same result for VTs and Goons)In post 2453, Cliff Booth wrote:
Yeah but from my perspective lets just say there are zero vanillas in the game and no one knows that as a fact. In fact, for the sake of this thought process, assume it hasn't even been talked about at all and assume the neapolitan assumes a "standard" ratio of VT to PR exists. If that neapolitan is targeting his scumreads then he is more likely to think that they are scum than PR when they come back as "not vanilla", right?In post 2450, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:
the term you're looking for isIn post 2444, Cliff Booth wrote:@Rick Dalton
Do you not think that a neapolitan basically has negative town utility in a role madness game? Specifically in a game that no one knows is role madness?. Negative Utility HARMS the Town, and Nea -albeit useless- does NOT hurt the town. It doesn't give us false results. It doesn't prevent other TPRs from doing their job. It doesn't result in extra kills. So, no.. Nea is NOT a Negative Utility.USELESS
So if there are no vanillas in the game and the neapolitan is using his power in this way then isn't he more likely to advocate for potential mislynches, especially if he doesn't publicly disclose WHY he thinks his target is scummy?
Like unless I am missing something there is literally NO benefit to a neapolitan in a game with no vanillas, in which case the above logic makes me believe it would be negative town utility.
Neapolitan automatically means 0-2 VTs in this game.
Now consider 0. Why is it "negative". Nea becomes effectively a Visitor. Results don't matter because everyone's a PR, but still no harm done.I AM THE LAW!-
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If Nea doesn't expose their reason they're no different than anyone else advocating a lynch on someone they view as scummy. If they do state their reason people will tell them they are wrong and the result they got only means the target is not Vanilla Town.In post 2453, Cliff Booth wrote:So if there are no vanillas in the game and the neapolitan is using his power in this way then isn't he more likely to advocate for potential mislynches, especially if he doesn't publicly disclose WHY he thinks his target is scummy?I AM THE LAW!-
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That's a bit different. It used to be a full Cop, and that was even more powerful in a 9-players setup. Nea can check for VTs only so basically won't confirm the other TPR (I assume that would be a Doctor?).
But imagine a setup with 17 players and like 7 of then being VTs, and then the Nea was lucky enough to confirm 3 of them in the opening 3 nights!! That is why a VC is used instead, as that would not confirm anyone's alignment.. just that they have no special powers.
Again.. in Newbie games it used to be a full Cop.. so confirms the alignment of everyone. Nea instead only confirms the alignment of VTs so no explicit guilty on scum and no confirming the other TPR.I AM THE LAW!-
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What's even funnier is this is a NORMAL game (according to MafiaScum Normal Guides).In post 2486, EeveeLution Army wrote:Whats funny is i have done a cs before with a neapolitan and the only vt in the game was a mafia role that inspected as vt called a Lazy GoonI AM THE LAW!-
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@Evee: Would you believe I initially shrugged off RD's 2480 (last line) but you managed to convince me better than he did and now I want to lynch you?
VOTE: Evee
I also don't know about profii. I mean, I could see a scum motivation behind 2487 (too many confirmed players to kill in one night) but I refuse to believe he would be so blunt about it as scum.I AM THE LAW!-
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She explicitly claimed it when the Voyeur said a Doctor visited her.In post 2500, profii wrote:
Or is she? WifomIn post 2497, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:WAIT! I knew I was forgetting something.. CARCA IS ASCETIC. She's ALREADY dead.
Is the assumption I'm making
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Narcissist peacock! (AP spells it with double e and a space)In post 2511, Rick Dalton wrote:You should see the way I look at myself in the mirror.I AM THE LAW!-
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No it's not. Reread 2491.. and the middle line precisely. Did you see it yet?In post 2523, Carcalilly wrote:Eevee wagon is worse than Tchill wagonI AM THE LAW!-
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Sk or scum in a team that know there's another scum team. He killed Gamma. he's just not sure if a Doc/JK blocked the other kill or if the other team also shot Gamma. Like, if he had shot someoneIn post 2536, Carcalilly wrote:Are you trying to say she's a skother than Gammahe would be certain there's a Doc/JK, wouldn't he? Because his own kill failed. But because he shot a claimed Mason he doesn't know whether "they" shot someone else or they ended up shooting the same Mason he/his team shot.I AM THE LAW!-
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Disclaimer: I apologize if Evee is a she. I don't see a pronoun.
P-edit: WHY would s/he be confident with any degree at all if s/he had considered single ball? The fact that s/he is "somewhat confident" there should have been 2 kills means she knows there's another killing source in the game.I AM THE LAW!-
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Evee is not a member of the team that had its kill blocked. s/he just knows there should have been another body other than his/her side's kill (which was Gamma)In post 2547, Carcalilly wrote:Pretty sure if scum's kill was blocked they'd already be all over it in their daychat, and clear to never mention or even fathom that a doctor exists.I AM THE LAW!-
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If you are in a team of 3 in a game this size you KNOW there has to be another team. You would not be "informed" of it, but you will still be able to tell.In post 2555, Carcalilly wrote:please refer me to a normal game duo-killing faction setup where they're aware of each other's existence
I dunno what you mean. So you mean evaluating me? As in.. question my alignment? If that's what you're asking it's probably because Gamma told you I was Town in your Masonry thread. Gamma knows me well enough (and I know him too), and he usually makes sorting me a priority due to that fact.In post 2556, Carcalilly wrote:Why haven't I ever seriously considered your placement in this game, jjd?I AM THE LAW!-
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Huh???In post 2571, gobbledygook wrote:Not entirely sure how this Nea thing is supposed to even catch scum? Wouldn't they just fakeclaim something easy like informed?
First things first: Read the case on Evee and tell me what you think
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You share a PT with Evee???? Interesting!In post 2576, gobbledygook wrote:I’m debating certain things internally with EeveeLution. Will get back to you in the morning.I AM THE LAW!-
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Go to the Boon Wars thread(s). They've been a team in them.In post 2580, EeveeLution Army wrote:im trying to tie dave and titus togetherI AM THE LAW!-
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OK.. something stupidly incriminating for everyone to easily jump on.. there.. I said it. Now what's the catch?In post 2583, Carcalilly wrote:Anyone else want to say something stupidly incriminating for everyone to easily jump on?I AM THE LAW!-
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Well, I'm not busy which nobody can confirm, but I'll have you know I lost my internet connection for 36 hrs which my whole neighborhood can confirm.In post 2742, Hopkirk wrote:
I can confirm this. I'll add that I'm also busy which Hectic can confirm.In post 2726, Hectic wrote:Apologies. Busy until Friday, but I will catchup then for 100% sure.
In the meantime, I'll read up on the history of the Mongolian and Byazantine Empires. This will make sense later.
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I have a few points to address:
1- I am coming clean here: I am caffeinated already
2- Bingle is bloody scum, and you're all stupid not to see it (those who did are not included in the PT with "S.T.U.P.I.D" tattoos on their foregeads
3-Nevertrust FL's reads. Just trust in your ability to read him correct
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No I didn't. I included a link to that game, so this post was intended for this thread.In post 2898, Rick Dalton wrote:Fuck, i thought I posted in the wrong game, but JJD didI AM THE LAW!-
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UNVOTE:In post 2917, Judge Joseph Dredd wrote:UNVOTE: UNVOTE:
People quickly hopping between wagons doesn't really impress me, nor does it help me get readsI AM THE LAW!-
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