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Post Post #4420 (isolation #600) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:01 pm

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In post 4419, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Oh.
...I still don’t get what you mean.
You said that vote after IKS was too scummy to be scum. So I was wondering if you were reading A50 as town because they're TWTBW (or TSTBS (or too scummy to be scum)).
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Post Post #4422 (isolation #601) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:04 pm

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In post 4421, NorwegianboyEE wrote:No. I’m not really townreading A50 right now.
Alright, was just trying to gauge what your read on them was
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Post Post #4424 (isolation #602) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:08 pm

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In post 4423, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Where has he been TSTBS? Because i mostly just think he’s been casually scummy lately.
In post 4381, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 3333, NoPowerOverMe wrote:VOTE: ddl
These votes both being right after another is too scummy to be scum. LOL.
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Post Post #4427 (isolation #603) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:09 pm

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Oh my god I mixed them up
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Post Post #4428 (isolation #604) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:13 pm

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So forgetting my broken head. Do you read NPOM as town because they're TWTBW or was that post just a joke at the votes or something.
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Post Post #4430 (isolation #605) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:27 pm

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In post 4429, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I was stating that scum!IKSF putting in an blind vote, and then scum!NPOM immediately putting in another blind vote afterwards. Would be too scummy to be scum for them if they were buddies.
So do you think they're wolf?
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Post Post #4431 (isolation #606) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:28 pm

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In post 4430, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 4429, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I was stating that scum!IKSF putting in an blind vote, and then scum!NPOM immediately putting in another blind vote afterwards. Would be too scummy to be scum for them if they were buddies.
So do you think they're wolf?
Town*

The way you speak sounds fencesitty but seems to think they're town
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Post Post #4434 (isolation #607) » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:41 pm

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In post 4432, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think other players have a higher chance to flip scum than NPOM. But i do not expressively townread him. I’ve made clear my position on the wagon since it’s forming. That i will suggest alternatives but not expressively fight against it.
Alright thank you, just got a bit confused with your wordings.
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Post Post #4436 (isolation #608) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:36 am

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In post 4435, NorwegianboyEE wrote:HAVE I NOT MADE MYSELF CLEAR?!
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Post Post #4438 (isolation #609) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:53 am

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Post Post #4439 (isolation #610) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:07 am

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I'm currently sorting out issues within a discord server, probably won't post for a bit.
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Post Post #4441 (isolation #611) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:47 am

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Alright I think I resolved the issue
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Post Post #4442 (isolation #612) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:52 am

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@NEE, could you link a recent scum-game?
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Post Post #4445 (isolation #613) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:56 am

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In post 4444, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 4442, JacksonVirgo wrote:@NEE, could you link a recent scum-game?
Just look for one. Like large 228 or something. Think i was scum in that one.
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Post Post #4450 (isolation #614) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:01 am

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ngl I think the best play to gauge NEE/Glitch is to recruit me. As I'm not dying tonight if Titus targets me
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Post Post #4452 (isolation #615) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:02 am

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In post 4451, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 4450, JacksonVirgo wrote:ngl I think the best play to gauge NEE/Glitch is to recruit me. As I'm not dying tonight if Titus targets me
Isn't Titus babysitter though
...which makes this not so great?
I know what the role does, but we're fine. Trust in me
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Post Post #4453 (isolation #616) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:04 am

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If Titus is town, we're good have faith in me.
If Titus is scum, mafia cannot kill me as they have to keep their claim.
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Post Post #4464 (isolation #617) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:30 am

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In post 731, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 648, Lapsa wrote:It has to be 2 vigilante setup. I see no other way around it.
Rolefishing much?

Fos lapsa
I found that scum tend to FoS their buddies, especially if they're performing lackluster. I also did this and got called out in a scum game I am lowkey ashamed of.
In post 754, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 739, ralph217 wrote:
In post 731, NoPowerOverMe wrote:
In post 648, Lapsa wrote:It has to be 2 vigilante setup. I see no other way around it.
Rolefishing much?

Fos lapsa
youv being slow this game but the game isnt as fast pass

so heres a question whys he fish

id ont like you
Rolefishing is trying figure out what someones role is. It's scummy because scum have more interest in eliminating power roles than town.
I think ralph/npom are not SvS. Though I'm not entirely sure if scum!ralph would defend or attack lapsa in that position.
In post 919, NoPowerOverMe wrote:VOTE: Lapsa
In post 1025, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Looks like we're consolidating.

VOTE: Glitch
Jumped on to their FoS but almost immediately jumps off when given the chance. Extremely interesting
In post 1030, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I see Lapsa as a good D2 lynch choice tbh unless something else comes up.
Again FoSing their buddy to distance.
In post 1228, NoPowerOverMe wrote:VOTE: Lapsa
In post 1243, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not saying I wouldn't lynch ralph or pete.
Voting Lapsa because they have no other choice really but then instantly planting a reason why they would have an out later on.
In post 1263, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Eh why not?

VOTE: Fwesnid
Finally gets off the Lapsa vote with no real reasoning as to why but "eh".

I think this is scum. I am currently ISOing them, this is their D1.
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Post Post #4465 (isolation #618) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:31 am

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Fuck I closed the ISO tab
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Post Post #4466 (isolation #619) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:36 am

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Pretty much nonexistant D2 unless I skipped a bunch.
I think my vote is sticking here
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Post Post #4467 (isolation #620) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:38 am

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Also looking back, should have spoilered that
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Post Post #4471 (isolation #621) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:42 am

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In post 4468, Bell wrote:It looks like essential reading to me tbh.
In post 4469, Bell wrote:You’d know all about fosing your partner and then voting someone else.
*snicker*
Trust the expert.
Don't fully understand either of those lol
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Post Post #4476 (isolation #622) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:46 am

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In post 4473, shellyc wrote:I have a townie vibe from you but...

I'm just disappointed in how they aren't creating town tempo
Could you elaborate on this?
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Post Post #4477 (isolation #623) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:47 am

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In post 4474, Bell wrote:His NPOM case to me looks good and I agree with it. So I don’t think he should have spoilered it.

He and I could still be wrong. But I don’t think the reasoning is bad.
I should have because it's a giant brick in the way lel
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Post Post #4479 (isolation #624) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:48 am

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In post 4478, Titus wrote:
In post 4460, shellyc wrote:
In post 4458, Bell wrote:
In post 4453, JacksonVirgo wrote:If Titus is town, we're good have faith in me.
If Titus is scum, mafia cannot kill me as they have to keep their claim.
I support this post since he seems to think it’s a good idea.
doesn't killing babysitter kill Jackson as well then?
It would. That's why I have fought to not have my target be outed.
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Post Post #4480 (isolation #625) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:52 am

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Also a VC wouldn't hurt
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Post Post #4481 (isolation #626) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:34 am

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Game's dead
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Post Post #4483 (isolation #627) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:59 am

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Oh shit I completely forgot they targeted IKS N1
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Post Post #4568 (isolation #628) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:44 pm

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In post 4540, Town looter wrote:
In post 4526, Glitch wrote:
In post 4478, Titus wrote:
In post 4460, shellyc wrote:
In post 4458, Bell wrote:
In post 4453, JacksonVirgo wrote:If Titus is town, we're good have faith in me.
If Titus is scum, mafia cannot kill me as they have to keep their claim.
I support this post since he seems to think it’s a good idea.
doesn't killing babysitter kill Jackson as well then?
It would. That's why I have fought to not have my target be outed.
This is why I dont understand Jackson's "trust me I got this" plan. If both Titus and JV are town like we want, why would scum kill anyone but Titus? Score a town PR hard claim (Titus) and a town PR soft claim (jv). I think any and all discussion of who Titus targets is scummy and should immediately cease from anyone who is truly town.
It's a test from JV on Titus, which I assume only works because of JV's odd-night ability (they claimed something odd night, cop even night PR, iirc).

Again I agree with Bell and trust Titus on this. Although JV I suggest you double check with mod and/or wiki pages to make sure you understand how the various abilities are going to work.
I've double-checked and it's completely safe for Titus to be on me tonight. Would be even better if Titus gets attacked
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Post Post #4569 (isolation #629) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:44 pm

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In post 4544, Town looter wrote:If scum have a doctor, and all their buddies get eliminated, can they still do night kills?
I would assume so?
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Post Post #4570 (isolation #630) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:46 pm

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In post 4548, Town looter wrote:
In post 4545, shellyc wrote: why would scum!siteflaking attempt to clear scum!A50 when A50 might flip before siteflaking?'
Good point.
It was probably incredibly unlikely A50 would flip before IKS considering their position in the town. Still a possibility though
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Post Post #4571 (isolation #631) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:47 pm

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In post 4565, NoPowerOverMe wrote:VOTE: no lynch
Oh god, not you.
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Post Post #4572 (isolation #632) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:48 pm

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Post-game I should probably put in my sig how much I hate no-lynches and naked votes. Especially nake-votes on no-lynches
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Post Post #4574 (isolation #633) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:56 pm

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In post 4563, NoPowerOverMe wrote:A50 is far more likely.
Are you saying A50 is more likely to be scum?
In post 4564, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I still believe Shelly is a useful Town tool.
Elaborate?
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Post Post #4577 (isolation #634) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:11 pm

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In post 4575, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Yes on 850 and I think Shelly will basically do whatever Town once even if she is scum.
I am not entirely sure what that shelly bit means, are you saying that she'll be the type of scum to bend over to try and win over the town? If that makes any sense
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Post Post #4588 (isolation #635) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:18 pm

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In post 4587, Titus wrote:
In post 4524, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Is titus a vca expert or something?
I consider myself a pioneer of VCA. I am not fully invested in a game until I fully do my VCA. People who have played with me know this.
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Post Post #4590 (isolation #636) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:21 pm

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Didn't you ask for someone to do this?
In post 4366, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2697, ManateeDude wrote:
VC1.21With 21 alive it takes 11 to eliminate[/b]

72offsuit (11):
SJReaver, Almost50, Hiraki, Titus, town looter,
I Keep Siteflaking
,
superbowl9
, Ydrasse, NoPowerOverMe, JacksonVirgo, Pickaxe Pete
(ELIMINATION!)

Titus (2):
Fwesnid,
Nero Cain

Ydrasse (2):
NorwegianboyEE,
72offsuit

NorwegianboyEE (2):
Glitch,
Dr Dolittle

DrDolittle(1):
ralph217
Fwesnid (1):
Marshmallow Marshall

Not Voting (2):
stan1ey, Bell

Mod Notes:
  1. 72offsuit will be eliminated
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In post 3799, ManateeDude wrote:
What should've been VC2.05
With 18 alive it takes 10 to eliminate


DrDolittle (10):
ralph217, shellyc,
superbowl9
, NorwegianBoyEE, Marshmallow Marshall,
I Keep Siteflaking
, NoPowerOverMe, Town looter, stan1ey, JacksonVirgo
(ELIMINATION!)

Glitch (2):
DrDolittle
, Titus
stan1ey (2):
Ydrasse, Fwesnid
NoPowerOverMe (2):
Almost50, Glitch, Hiraki
Ydrasse (1):
Bell


Not Voting (2):
stan1ey, Town looter

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Post Post #4592 (isolation #637) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:26 pm

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In post 4591, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Making me regret i didn’t push A50 harder earlier.
Are you leaning for A50 than NPOM rn?
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Post Post #4594 (isolation #638) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:30 pm

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In post 4593, Titus wrote:
In post 4590, JacksonVirgo wrote:Didn't you ask for someone to do this?
In post 4366, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2697, ManateeDude wrote:
VC1.21With 21 alive it takes 11 to eliminate[/b]

72offsuit (11):
SJReaver, Almost50, Hiraki, Titus, town looter,
I Keep Siteflaking
,
superbowl9
, Ydrasse, NoPowerOverMe, JacksonVirgo, Pickaxe Pete
(ELIMINATION!)

Titus (2):
Fwesnid,
Nero Cain

Ydrasse (2):
NorwegianboyEE,
72offsuit

NorwegianboyEE (2):
Glitch,
Dr Dolittle

DrDolittle(1):
ralph217
Fwesnid (1):
Marshmallow Marshall

Not Voting (2):
stan1ey, Bell

Mod Notes:
  1. 72offsuit will be eliminated
[/color]
In post 3799, ManateeDude wrote:
What should've been VC2.05
With 18 alive it takes 10 to eliminate


DrDolittle (10):
ralph217, shellyc,
superbowl9
, NorwegianBoyEE, Marshmallow Marshall,
I Keep Siteflaking
, NoPowerOverMe, Town looter, stan1ey, JacksonVirgo
(ELIMINATION!)

Glitch (2):
DrDolittle
, Titus
stan1ey (2):
Ydrasse, Fwesnid
NoPowerOverMe (2):
Almost50, Glitch, Hiraki
Ydrasse (1):
Bell


Not Voting (2):
stan1ey, Town looter

Deadline:
(expired on 2020-09-10 09:00:00)

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Yup and that's a good start, but I need all of them, not just day end.
Oh alright, I'll do that soon
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Post Post #4601 (isolation #639) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:07 pm

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D1 Votes for VCA... this took a very long time...

Spoiler:
VC1.01Bell: (3) Glitch, Cat Scratch Fever, NorwegianBoyEE
Town looter (1): SJReaver
NorwegianBoyEE (1): Bell
LicketyQuickety (1): stan1ey
Glitch: (1)
superbowl9


Not Voting: LicketyQuickety,
Pickaxe Pete
,
Littlefinger
, Fwesnid, Rozyroz,
Nero Cain
, popopopopopopo, NoPowerOverMe, Marshmallow Marshall, ralph217,
72offsuit
, Ganelon, Town looter,
Lapsa


1.02Bell: (5) Fwesnid, Cat Scratch Fever, NorwegianBoyEE,
Lapsa
, Marshmallow Marshall
Marshmallow Marshall (1): SJReaver
NorwegianBoyEE (1): Bell
LicketyQuickety (1): stan1ey
SJReaver (1): Town looter
Rozyroz (1):
Pickaxe Pete


Not Voting: LicketyQuickety,
Littlefinger
, Glitch, Rozyroz,
Nero Cain
, popopopopopopo,
superbowl9
, NoPowerOverMe, ralph217,
72offsuit
, Ganelon


1.03Bell: (4) Fwesnid, NorwegianBoyEE,
Lapsa
, Marshmallow Marshall
Marshmallow Marshall (3): SJReaver, Cat Scratch Fever, Bell
Town looter (1): NoPowerOverMe
LicketyQuickety (1): stan1ey
Rozyroz (1):
Pickaxe Pete

stan1ey (1):
Nero Cain


Not Voting: LicketyQuickety,
Littlefinger
, Glitch, Rozyroz, popopopopopopo,
superbowl9
, NoPowerOverMe, ralph217,
72offsuit
, Ganelon, Town looter


1.04Bell: (3) Fwesnid, Marshmallow Marshall
Marshmallow Marshall (5): SJReaver, Cat Scratch Fever, Bell,
Lapsa
, Town looter
Town looter (1): NoPowerOverMe
superbowl9
(2): stan1ey,
72offsuit

Rozyroz (1):
Pickaxe Pete

stan1ey (2):
superbowl9
, NorwegianBoyEE
NorwegianBoyEE (1):
Nero Cain


Not Voting: LicketyQuickety, Littlefinger, Glitch, Rozyroz, popopopopopopo, NoPowerOverMe, ralph217, Ganelon


1.05Bell: (2) Fwesnid, Marshmallow Marshall
Marshmallow Marshall (4): SJReaver, Cat Scratch Fever, Bell,
Lapsa

superbowl9
(2): stan1ey,
72offsuit

stan1ey (2):
superbowl9
, NorwegianBoyEE
NorwegianBoyEE (3):
Nero Cain
, NoPowerOverMe, Town looter
Nero Cain
(1): Glitch

Not Voting: LicketyQuickety,
Littlefinger
, Rozyroz, popopopopopopo, ralph217, Ganelon,
Pickaxe Pete


1.06
superbowl9
(4): stan1ey,
72offsuit
, Marshmallow, Town looter
Marshmallow Marshall (3): Cat Scratch Fever, Bell,
Lapsa

stan1ey (2):
superbowl9
, NorwegianBoyEE
NorwegianBoyEE (1): NoPowerOverMe
Nero Cain
(1): Glitch
Glitch (1):
Nero Cain

Bell: (1) Fwesnid
NoPowerOverMe (1): SJReaver

Not Voting: LicketyQuickety,
I Keep Siteflaking
, JacksonVirgo, popopopopopopo, ralph217, Ganelon,
Pickaxe Pete


1.07
superbowl9
(5): stan1ey,
72offsuit
, Marshmallow, Town looter, Fwesnid
Marshmallow Marshall (2): Cat Scratch Fever,
Lapsa

stan1ey (1):
superbowl9

NorwegianBoyEE (2): NoPowerOverMe, JacksonVirgo
Nero Cain (1): Glitch
Glitch (3):
Nero Cain
, Bell, NorwegianBoyEE
NoPowerOverMe (1): SJReaver
JacksonVirgo (2):
Pickaxe Pete
,
I Keep Siteflaking


Not Voting: Hiraki, popopopopopopo, ralph217, Ganelon,
Pickaxe Pete


1.08
superbowl9
(5): stan1ey,
72offsuit
, Marshmallow, Town looter, Fwesnid
Glitch (4):
Nero Cain
, NorwegianBoyEE, Bell, Cat Scratch Fever
Lapsa (2): ralph217,
I Keep Siteflaking

stan1ey (1):
superbowl9

NorwegianBoyEE (2): NoPowerOverMe, JacksonVirgo
Nero Cain (1): Glitch
NoPowerOverMe (1): SJReaver
JacksonVirgo (1):
Pickaxe Pete



Not Voting: Hiraki, Almost50, Titus,
Lapsa


1.09
superbowl9
(4): stan1ey,
72offsuit
, Town looter, Fwesnid
Glitch (9):
Nero Cain
, Bell, Cat Scratch Fever, Hiraki, Titus, Almost50 NoPowerOverMe,
I Keep Siteflaking
,
superbowl9
, SJReaver
Lapsa
(1): ralph217
NorwegianBoyEE (1): JacksonVirgo
Nero Cain
(2): Glitch, Marshmallow Marshall
JacksonVirgo (1):
Pickaxe Pete



Not Voting: Almost50,
Lapsa
, NorwegianBoyEE


1.10Glitch (10):
Nero Cain
, Bell, Cat Scratch Fever, Hiraki, Titus, Almost50 NoPowerOverMe,
I Keep Siteflaking
, superbowl9, SJReaver
superbowl9
(5): stan1ey,
72offsuit
, Town looter, Fwesnid, Marshmallow
NoPowerOverMe (1): ralph217
NorwegianBoyEE (1): JacksonVirgo
Nero Cain
(1): Glitch
JacksonVirgo (1):
Pickaxe Pete



Not Voting:
Lapsa
, NorwegianBoyEE


1.11Glitch (8):
Nero Cain
, Cat Scratch Fever, Hiraki, Titus, Almost50, SJReaver, NorwegianboyEE
Fwesnid (3):
superbowl9
, Bell, NoPowerOverMe
Nero Cain
(2): Glitch, stan1ey
72offsuit
(2): Marshmallow Marshall, Fwesnid
superbowl9
(2):
72offsuit
, Town looter
NoPowerOverMe (1): ralph217
NorwegianBoyEE (1): JacksonVirgo
JacksonVirgo (1):
Pickaxe Pete


Not Voting:
Lapsa
,
I Keep Siteflaking


1.12Glitch (5): Cat Scratch Fever, Titus, Almost50, SJReaver, NorwegianboyEE
Fwesnid (5):
superbowl9
, Bell, NoPowerOverMe, JacksonVirgo, Town looter
Nero Cain
(2): Glitch, stan1ey
72offsuit
(2): Marshmallow Marshall, Fwesnid
superbowl9
(1):
72offsuit

JacksonVirgo (1):
Pickaxe Pete

Cat Scratch Fever (1): Hiraki
stan1ey (1):
Nero Cain

Town looter (1): ralph217

Not Voting:
Lapsa, I Keep Siteflaking


1.13Fwesnid (8):
superbowl9
, Bell, NoPowerOverMe, JacksonVirgo, Town looter, SJReaver,
I Keep Siteflaking
, NorwegianboyEE
Glitch (2): Cat Scratch Fever, Titus
Nero Cain
(2): Glitch, stan1ey
72offsuit
(2): Marshmallow Marshall, Fwesnid
superbowl9
(1):
72offsuit

JacksonVirgo (1):
Pickaxe Pete

Cat Scratch Fever (1): Hiraki
stan1ey (1):
Nero Cain

Town looter (1): ralph217
NorwegianboyEE (1):Almost50

Not Voting:
Lapsa

1.14Fwesnid (7):
superbowl9
, NoPowerOverMe, Town looter,
72offsuit
, Marshmallow Marshall, Titus, NorwegianboyEE
Glitch (1):
I Keep Siteflaking

72offsuit
(2):, Fwesnid, Bell
superbowl9
(1):
72offsuit

Alisae (2): Hiraki, Pickaxe Pete
stan1ey (1):
Nero Cain

Town looter (1): ralph217
NorwegianboyEE (5):Almost50, JacksonVirgo, stan1ey, Glitch, SJReaver

Not Voting:
Lapsa
, Alisae


1.15Fwesnid (5):
superbowl9
,
72offsuit
, Marshmallow Marshall, Titus, NorwegianboyEE
NorwegianboyEE (5):Almost50, JacksonVirgo, stan1ey, Glitch, NoPowerOverMe
Lapsa
(5) ralph217,
Nero Cain
Bell,
Pickaxe Pete
, SJReaver
Alisae (1): Hiraki
Glitch (1):

72offsuit (1):, Fwesnid

Not Voting:
Lapsa
, Alisae, Town looter


1.16Fwesnid (1):Marshmallow Marshall
NorwegianboyEE (4):Almost50, stan1ey, Glitch, NoPowerOverMe
Lapsa
(3): ralph217,
Nero Cain
, SJReaver
Alisae (1): Hiraki
Glitch (1):
I Keep Siteflaking

72offsuit
(1):, Fwesnid,
superbowl9

Almost50 (4): NorwegianboyEE, 72offsuit, Titus, JacksonVirgo

Not Voting (5): [
Lapsa
], [Alisae], Town looter, Bell, Pickaxe Pete


1.17Almost50 (5): NorwegianboyEE,
72offsuit
, Titus, JacksonVirgo, NoPowerOverMe
NorwegianboyEE (3):Almost50, stan1ey, Glitch
Lapsa
(2): ralph217,
Nero Cain

72offsuit
(2):, Fwesnid,
superbowl9

NoPowerOverME (2): Hiraki,
Pickaxe Pete

Fwesnid (1): Marshmallow Marshall

Not Voting (6): [
Lapsa
], [Alisae], Town looter, Bell,
I Keep Siteflaking
, SJReaver


1.18Almost50 (3):
72offsuit
, JacksonVirgo, NoPowerOverMe
NorwegianboyEE (2): Glitch, Town looter
DrDolittle
(2): ralph217,
Nero Cain

72offsuit
(4):, Fwesnid,
superbowl9
, SJReaver, Almost50
NoPowerOverME (2): Hiraki,
Pickaxe Pete

Fwesnid (1): Marshmallow Marshall
I Keep Siteflaking
(1): Titus
stan1ey (1): Bell

Not Voting (3):
DrDolittle
, Ydrasse,
I Keep Siteflaking
, stan1ey, NorwegianboyEE


1.19
72offsuit
(6):, Fwesnid, SJReaver, Almost50, Hiraki, Titus, JacksonVirgo
Titus (5): Bell, NoPowerOverMe, NorwegianboyEE,
superbowl9
.
I Keep Siteflaking

NorwegianboyEE (3): Glitch, Town looter, Ydrasse
Almost50 (1):
Nero Cain

DrDolittle
(1): ralph217
Fwesnid (1): Marshmallow Marshall
I Keep Siteflaking
(1):
72offsuit


Not Voting (3): DrDolittle, stan1ey, Pickaxe Pete


1.20
72offsuit
(8):SJReaver, Almost50, Hiraki, Titus, town looter,
I Keep Siteflaking
,
superbowl9
. Ydrasse
Titus (3): NoPowerOverMe, Fwesnid,
Nero Cain

NorwegianboyEE (2): Glitch,
Dr Dolittle

DrDolittle
(1): ralph217
Fwesnid (1): Marshmallow Marshall
Ydrasse (3): JacksonVirgo, NorwegianboyEE,
72offsuit


Not Voting (3): stan1ey,
Pickaxe Pete
, Bell


1.21
72offsuit
(11):SJReaver, Almost50, Hiraki, Titus, town looter,
I Keep Siteflaking
,
superbowl9
, Ydrasse, NoPowerOverMe, JacksonVirgo,
Pickaxe Pete
(ELIMINATION!)
Titus (2):Fwesnid,
Nero Cain

Ydrasse (2): NorwegianboyEE,
72offsuit

NorwegianboyEE (2): Glitch,
Dr Dolittle

DrDolittle
(1): ralph217
Fwesnid (1): Marshmallow Marshall

Not Voting (2): stan1ey, Bell
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Post Post #4602 (isolation #640) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:09 pm

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I'm going to try to do VCA as well since I found a few interesting things while doing that, mainly regarding IKS's votes.
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Post Post #4603 (isolation #641) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:15 pm

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D2, not much compared to D1
Spoiler:
2.01Glitch (1): NorwegianboyEE

Not Voting (18): Hiraki, Ydrasse,
I Keep Siteflaking
, Fwesnid, JacksonVirgo, Bell, stan1ey, Almost50,
superbowl9
, NoPowerOverMe, shellyc, Marshmallow Marshall, ralph217, Titus, Town looter, Glitch,
DrDoLittle


2.02Glitch (3): NorwegianboyEE, JacksonVirgo, Titus
stan1ey (1): NoPowerOverMe
Fwesnid (1): Town looter

Not Voting (13): Hiraki, Ydrasse,
I Keep Siteflaking
, Fwesnid, Bell, stan1ey, Almost50,
superbowl9
, shellyc, Marshmallow Marshall, ralph217, Glitch,
DrDoLittle


2.03Marshmallow Marshall (9): Fwesnid, Titus,
superbowl9
, NorwegianboyEE, JacksonVirgo, Glitch, Almost50, stan1ey, Hiraki
Glitch (2):NoPowerOverMe,
DrDolittle

Fwesnid (1): Town looter
stan1ey (2):
I Keep Siteflaking,
Ydrasse


Not Voting (4): Bell, shellyc, ralph217, Marshmallow Marshall


2.04Marshmallow Marshall (3): Fwesnid, Almost50, Hiraki
Glitch (6):NoPowerOverMe,
DrDolittle
, JacksonVirgo, Marshmallow Marshall,
superbowl9
, Titus
stan1ey (2):
I Keep Siteflaking
, Ydrasse
Ydrasse (1): Bell
DrDolittle
(1): ralph217


Not Voting (5): shellyc, stan1ey, Town looter, Glitch, NorwegianBoyEE


2.05
DrDolittle
(10): ralph217, shellyc,
superbowl9
, NorwegianBoyEE, Marshmallow Marshall,
I Keep Siteflaking
, NoPowerOverMe, Town looter, stan1ey, JacksonVirgo (ELIMINATION!)
Glitch (2):
DrDolittle
, Titus
stan1ey (2): Ydrasse, Fwesnid
NoPowerOverMe (2): Almost50, Glitch, Hiraki
Ydrasse (1): Bell


Not Voting (2): stan1ey, Town looter
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Post Post #4604 (isolation #642) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:16 pm

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I wouldn't be against an A50 wagon, but I agree with Hiraki
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Post Post #4605 (isolation #643) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:05 pm

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1.19 I think somewhat makes Titus townier
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Post Post #4606 (isolation #644) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:57 pm

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I feel lonely :c
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Post Post #4609 (isolation #645) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:57 pm

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In post 4608, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Very little interaction between a50 and Hiraki fwiw
Are you seeing them as an S/S?
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Post Post #4611 (isolation #646) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:53 pm

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In post 4610, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Not sure.
Alright.

Wow this game really did die
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Post Post #4617 (isolation #647) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:04 pm

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In post 4612, shellyc wrote:check-in because I am back on THE INTERNET!

so this game hinges on titus' vca now which isn't cool
It doesn't hinge on that at all? Wdym?

We have two cop like roles, a vigi and two protectives.
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Post Post #4619 (isolation #648) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:05 pm

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In post 4615, shellyc wrote:imo what A50 is doing is a bit like 3p play but there are no 3ps

but hot take A50 feels pretty town
Completely disagree
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Post Post #4621 (isolation #649) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:06 pm

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In post 4618, shellyc wrote:
In post 4617, JacksonVirgo wrote:It doesn't hinge on that at all? Wdym?

We have two cop like roles, a vigi and two protectives.
I meant discussion
Not really, people just need to get on lol.
A mass-claim may spice up the discussion but that's pretty -ev I think considering our position as a whole.
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Post Post #4622 (isolation #650) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:07 pm

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In post 4620, shellyc wrote:We'll have to agree to disagree here

how does scum!A50 world even exist here?
Have you not read the case on A50? It's not as strong as the one I made on NPOM I feel but it's still solid.
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Post Post #4625 (isolation #651) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:10 pm

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In post 4623, shellyc wrote:wait where's it?

I remember a NPOM case but not an A50 one
Let me find it, it was regarding IKS's "action"
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Post Post #4626 (isolation #652) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:12 pm

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In post 4597, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Scummy things A50 has done:

- Support the wagon on NPOM but not voting. (Also chastising people for "halting the wagon". (Even though he isn’t voting himself)
A50 knows that him voting someone he knows are flipping town will make him look bad since me and NPOM’s put the spotlight on him like this. His actions don’t match up with a town mindset.
- Claiming VT for no reason. Even though he literally stated we shouldn’t wagon anyone else because they might claim PR. (By his own logic, he just made an completely anti-town move there.)
- Fake anger at me/NPOM and that he’s going to be "trolling for the rest of the game".
This is one, I can't seem to find the other.
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Post Post #4629 (isolation #653) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:14 pm

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I think the case was, why would IKS create a fake-claim solely to clear A50, even after claiming to have a semi-clear on Glitch. My words are probably broken if so lemme know and I'll try to rewrite a case on them.

pedit: I responded to that exact scenario.
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Post Post #4630 (isolation #654) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:15 pm

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In post 4628, shellyc wrote:
In post 4545, shellyc wrote:why would scum!siteflaking attempt to clear scum!A50 when A50 might flip before siteflaking?'
this addresses the disloyal vig thing
Considering the positions both A50 and Glitch were in, it was MUCH more likely that IKS would have died before A50.
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Post Post #4632 (isolation #655) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:18 pm

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In post 4631, shellyc wrote:hmmmmmm

the possibility still exists though and I'm not sure with DDL down scum would take the risk
@NEE, when was IKS claiming they'd shoot A50.
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Post Post #4635 (isolation #656) » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:57 pm

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In post 4633, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 4632, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 4631, shellyc wrote:hmmmmmm

the possibility still exists though and I'm not sure with DDL down scum would take the risk
@NEE, when was IKS claiming they'd shoot A50.
He said he wanted to do it on Sep 05, 2020 3:06 am
Before Lapsa was even a wagon, shelly's point just died.
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Post Post #4647 (isolation #657) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:17 am

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In post 4643, Titus wrote:I see shiny colors. Time to get to work. Thanks Jackson.
There likely is a few errors there with colouring as I did it manually then realised ctrl+F is a thing.
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Post Post #4648 (isolation #658) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:19 am

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In post 4646, Glitch wrote:I'm confused. Are MM and Bell both claimed vigis?
Are they? Where did bell claim vig?
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Post Post #4651 (isolation #659) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:31 am

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In post 4649, Titus wrote:
In post 4647, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 4643, Titus wrote:I see shiny colors. Time to get to work. Thanks Jackson.
There likely is a few errors there with colouring as I did it manually then realised ctrl+F is a thing.
It worked enough. Thank you. I normally do all the subs too.
Do all the subs? Also you're welcome, it was better than just stressing that nobody was discussing anything.
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Post Post #4652 (isolation #660) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:32 am

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In post 4650, Titus wrote:VOTE: NPOM

Let's end the day now.
Honestly I have to agree, not having a flip here is killing the effort of everyone it seems.
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Post Post #4654 (isolation #661) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:34 am

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Is that E-1? I don't object to a hammer here
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Post Post #4656 (isolation #662) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:35 am

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Though I swear to god, Titus be on me I don't care about any buts. And if there's another protective, which I doubt. Be on me as well in case Titus doesn't
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Post Post #4659 (isolation #663) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:49 am

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Imagine the mod misreads the votes and the same thing happens as D2
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Post Post #4660 (isolation #664) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:49 am

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In post 4658, Titus wrote:
In post 4656, JacksonVirgo wrote:Though I swear to god, Titus be on me I don't care about any buts. And if there's another protective, which I doubt. Be on me as well in case Titus doesn't
Fine.
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Post Post #4663 (isolation #665) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:08 am

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Shooting A50 if NPOM flips green isn't a terrible idea as I think at least one is wolf.
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Post Post #4664 (isolation #666) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:08 am

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In post 4663, JacksonVirgo wrote:Shooting A50 if NPOM flips green isn't a terrible idea as I think at least one is wolf.
I am unsure of A50's meta tho and that last post is weird
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Post Post #4686 (isolation #667) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:36 pm

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In post 4685, Hiraki wrote:i also don't see why we need to rush this, the deadline is also still in ~limbo~

that being said, consider my vote, if he's not already hammered, on NPOM
Oh so we're just gonna be waiting here for yonks? Good to know :lol:
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Post Post #4687 (isolation #668) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:37 pm

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In post 4684, Titus wrote:
In post 4683, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:
In post 4680, shellyc wrote:
In post 4644, Glitch wrote:What is happening here and what's with this sheepish progression? One post you're explaining why the game is hanging on Titus's VCA and the next moment you're complaining about it. It doesn't make any sense.
I was V/LA and was expecting to come back to insightful posts. instead we were all waiting for titus' vca
Uh.... what? Why are we waiting specifically on
Titus
' VCA, and why does it matter that much?
Because my VCA is a way of reading me and it provides little to no value before d3 with a scumflip. I have done it now, so we hammerred.
Oh so say the VCA is a way to read you? Could you link a scum game when you have the chance
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Post Post #4688 (isolation #669) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:38 pm

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In post 4674, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I should have fake claimed cop.
Oh so my reads were right, neat
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Post Post #4691 (isolation #670) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:51 pm

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In post 4689, Bell wrote:
In post 4688, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 4674, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I should have fake claimed cop.
Oh so my reads were right, neat
I felt the same way. But then I realized it might have been a poke at our hesitation to eliminate claimed power roles.
Lmfao, I felt so proud of myself just now and now not so much. We shall see
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Post Post #4692 (isolation #671) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:47 pm

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I wouldn't mind a shot within stan, A50 and ralph. Mayyybe shelly but I think they're more likely just cocky town, they're not really acting like they did in my recently ended newbie game that I hosted. They were way more proactive there than they are here.
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Post Post #4693 (isolation #672) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:48 pm

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In post 4692, JacksonVirgo wrote:I wouldn't mind a shot within stan, A50 and ralph. Mayyybe shelly but I think they're more likely just cocky town, they're not really acting like they did in my recently ended newbie game that I hosted. They were way more proactive there than they are here.
They were mafia in that game fwiw
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Post Post #4695 (isolation #673) » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:56 pm

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In post 4694, Hiraki wrote:
In post 4686, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 4685, Hiraki wrote:i also don't see why we need to rush this, the deadline is also still in ~limbo~

that being said, consider my vote, if he's not already hammered, on NPOM
Oh so we're just gonna be waiting here for yonks? Good to know :lol:
does it hurt anyone?
Nope but I'd like to see if my reads were right tho
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Post Post #4711 (isolation #674) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:37 am

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In post 4697, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 4696, shellyc wrote:
@MOD I am back early from V/LA!


it's twilight now
hopefully we're down to two scum left, I really believe NPOM will flip red
This feels TMI.
Cus i'm still thinking he might flip green.
Could you explain this read? I don't think I'm seeing it, outside of being an overconfident player.
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Post Post #4712 (isolation #675) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:37 am

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In post 4699, NorwegianboyEE wrote:NPOM's attitude and reaction to being hammered feels very town-flip to me.
I disagree, I am keeping hope!
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Post Post #4713 (isolation #676) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:38 am

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In post 4701, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm town so you're wrong.
That's depressing
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Post Post #4714 (isolation #677) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:39 am

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In post 4703, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Let's rest on our yannys because we got a red vig shot.
Fixed
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Post Post #4716 (isolation #678) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:39 am

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In post 4708, ralph217 wrote:powre has no reason to say hes scum cuse votes could be wrogn again
If NPOM flips red I think this is 100% green, no doubt.
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Post Post #4717 (isolation #679) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:40 am

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In post 4715, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 4711, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 4697, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 4696, shellyc wrote:
@MOD I am back early from V/LA!


it's twilight now
hopefully we're down to two scum left, I really believe NPOM will flip red
This feels TMI.
Cus i'm still thinking he might flip green.
Could you explain this read? I don't think I'm seeing it, outside of being an overconfident player.
I can explain it tommorow. Or Glitch if i die for some reason. I elaborated a bit more on my Shelly read in the hood.
Alright, I shall await
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Post Post #4721 (isolation #680) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:44 am

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In post 4719, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Take this from the post-flip analyzis master.
I don’t see why’d NPOM keep posting things like: "I’m green u guys suck" if he’s actually scum here.
NPOM also seems genuinely irritated that we hammered him, and i don’t think he’s the trolling-as-scum type.
There are multiple reasons, to stop us from fully planning out reads before knowing NPOM's alignment, which is what I did once in my home site and/or discord game when I was hammered as scum, I forget the game though. They could also hope that the VC gets cucked again to give them a small chance.

Those may be stretches but it's still a possibility. Especially considering we have no idea when the host will return.
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Post Post #4723 (isolation #681) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:52 am

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In post 4722, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Valid, but i don’t think those strategies apply to this player.
Anyway, no point arguing about this forever. I’m just gonna wait for Manatee now.
How about playing a game of tic tac toe.

:?: :?: :?:
:?: :?: :?:
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Post Post #4725 (isolation #682) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:53 am

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In post 4724, Hiraki wrote:dunno why you guys think ralph will flip red tbh
Because I am thinking they may be newb!scum bussing with their vote on Lapsa/DDL. Which is easy for me to see because I did the same thing as newb!scum.
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Post Post #4728 (isolation #683) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:01 am

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In post 4726, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 4724, Hiraki wrote:dunno why you guys think ralph will flip red tbh
I thougth i was saying the opposite.
In the case of an NPOM red-flip they're 100% town.
In the case of a green-flip they may not be. As I said I can see them as newb!scum but I can also see them as town. I am not sure how to read them, honestly sometimes I forget they exist :eyes:
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Post Post #4729 (isolation #684) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:01 am

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:mrgreen: :?: :?:
:?: :cool: :?:
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Post Post #4734 (isolation #685) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:04 am

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:mrgreen: :?: :mrgreen:
:?: :cool: :?:
:cool: :?: :mrgreen:
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Post Post #4736 (isolation #686) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:05 am

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In post 4735, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Ah shit, you won.
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Post Post #4740 (isolation #687) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:14 am

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In post 4739, NoPowerOverMe wrote:What info? I'm VT.

I'm always fun. Ask anyone.
Wanna play tic tac toe?
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Post Post #4746 (isolation #688) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:21 am

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In post 4741, Bell wrote:Do you know what’s sad.

All my town reads are town.
But all my scum reads are town too.
Does that mean everyone is town?
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Post Post #4747 (isolation #689) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:22 am

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In post 4742, NoPowerOverMe wrote:-|O|-|
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Post Post #4749 (isolation #690) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:22 am

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In post 4747, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 4742, NoPowerOverMe wrote:-|O|-|
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Fuck I did the wrong one
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Post Post #4753 (isolation #691) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:28 am

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In post 4752, NoPowerOverMe wrote:|-|O|-|
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Post Post #4754 (isolation #692) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:28 am

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In post 4750, Ydrasse wrote:do you guys think we can play bingo in here somehow
I forget how to play bingo
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Post Post #4756 (isolation #693) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:33 am

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|X|O|-|
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Post Post #4758 (isolation #694) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:36 am

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|X|O|X|
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Draw, and I filled out your last one for ya
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Post Post #4759 (isolation #695) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:38 am

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In post 4751, Bell wrote:No, it means i’m mediocre and my null reads are where all the scum are.
What are your null reads
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Post Post #4761 (isolation #696) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:39 am

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In post 4760, NoPowerOverMe wrote:How did that happen?!?!?
How did what happen?
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Post Post #4764 (isolation #697) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:41 am

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In post 4762, NoPowerOverMe wrote:A draw.
'cuz I screwed my first one lel.
How do you play dots?
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Post Post #4766 (isolation #698) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:44 am

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In post 4765, NoPowerOverMe wrote:10 by 10 square of dots.

Each player connects a dot on their turn.

If you make a square you fill in your initial and get another turn.

Person with the most squares at the end wins.
How could we do that on the forums?
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Post Post #4769 (isolation #699) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:47 am

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Sad
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Post Post #4772 (isolation #700) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:05 pm

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NPOM if you are Town, would you be able to give some reads before you depart.
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Post Post #4775 (isolation #701) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:16 pm

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In post 4773, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It’s Shelley, A50 and Stan that are last scum imo.
I'll give a detailed ISO dive of everyone tomorrow probably if I can find the effort. Although I think shelly is fine, if I am wrong they've jebaited me but they don't seem like their recent scum game. I think the vigi shot should lie in A50/Stan/ralph (depending on NPOM's flip) but I know that ralph won't be shot because everyone else has strong TRs on them it seems.

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Post Post #4776 (isolation #702) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:16 pm

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@Titus, again don't fuck me up
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Post Post #4779 (isolation #703) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:23 pm

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I'm currently ISO diving Hiraki and their predecessor fyi.
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Post Post #4781 (isolation #704) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:36 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 77, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 76, Nero Cain wrote:no your posts are still pointless
Stop aggroing me bro.
This seems like a forced reaction.
In post 72, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 54, SJReaver wrote:
In post 51, Marshmallow Marshall wrote: And now, can we start calling eachother scum so that we can have meaningful discussion, please? This debate about lynching and shooting basing on activity isn't alignment indicative, and we've basically killed RVS' significance here.
I'm here for you, bro.

VOTE: Mashmallow

Reason:
Claims previous discussion is NAI and has killed RVS on
page 2
when the majority of people haven't voted. Claims calling others scum is more useful but then doesn't do it themselves.
Also lightly TRing this post.
In post 84, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 82, Pickaxe Pete wrote:Thinking Reaver is excited town. Or not a newb.
Thanks for pointing this out. Went to ISO that slot and have a completely different opinion now.
They had a TR on Reaver, and now they have a completely different opinion but still a TR? Sounds legit. Could be a possible misunderstanding on my part and/or a pocket attempt on a newb!town.


This is very tinny, if that's the right term. It seems very short and snappy like when I try to catch up as scum, I find it difficult to produce real content and it ends up similar to this. Very short responses to things.


Same thing can be said here, everything is really snappy and short and holds nearly no content really.
In post 2009, Hiraki wrote:
Unvote, Vote: A50
In post 2087, Hiraki wrote:
Unvote, Vote: NPOM


Nope, I'm back to sticking to my guns. Apologies for the lapse in judgment.
If A50 is red, Hiraki is going right up in my SRs with these votes. Especially since one is right after the other, the reasoning behind switching back is weak as well. I think an A50 flip resolves Hiraki.


To be continued... suspenceful...

Although I do agree that an A50 flip resolves Hiraki. If A50 is red, Hiraki is likely red too imo.
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Post Post #4785 (isolation #705) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:30 pm

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Personal bias and reads wants A50 shot.
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Post Post #4786 (isolation #706) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:30 pm

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In post 4782, shellyc wrote:case me NEE, I dare you

you will be wrong though
I might have to make a case on shelly tomorrow
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Post Post #4788 (isolation #707) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:32 pm

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In post 4787, shellyc wrote:A50 just reads town to me at this point

I'm obvtown. very disappointed in you jackson
Why does A50 read town, their votes have aligned with scum and have been acting really scummy. They would also resolve Hiraki
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Post Post #4790 (isolation #708) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:45 pm

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In post 4789, shellyc wrote:uhhh siteflaking attempting to clear a scumbuddy doesn't make sense, their votes look fine, and ISO is townier than I thought

if you want vig to shoot them to solve hiraki sure but I'm town on this slot. maybe my reads are just wack

also just do it now, I don't think you can survive until tomorrow
It does make sense, especially it was way more likely that they would die first. That's just wifom at this point, we have no way to know for sure so I recommend using arguments that don't use that one specific point. Tell me why their ISO is townier, you saying it doesn't spark confidence from me.

If you think they're town why would you be okay with a vig shot on them. Also do what now, your ISO dive? No because I'm not dying tonight.
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Post Post #4794 (isolation #709) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:00 pm

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In post 4793, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:Hey uh

Why is Ralph out of everyone's PoE? Did I miss something, or is everyone just giving a free pass to the guy who only posts one-liners lol
They're still in mine >:)
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Post Post #4795 (isolation #710) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:01 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 4792, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:Selected posts from Shelly's ISO because I was reading some part of the thread and found a few of her posts interesting to read her (fun fact, I started that yesterday, saved the post, and at the moment I want to post it I see Jackson saying he wants Shelly shot lol...):
In post 3116, shellyc wrote:Reading through the last few pages Bell is town (being paranoid about a mod error and showing the right amount of emotion), Jackson is town (trying to find as many possibilities as possible)
I am in full agreement and mindmelding process when reading this post, and really like it.
In post 3119, shellyc wrote:
In post 3117, Ydrasse wrote:i know our townblock is firm.
stop pocketing me!
I wondered if this was fake or genuine concern about being pocketed, but couldn't make up my mind on it until I saw a later post:
In post 3150, shellyc wrote:
In post 3148, Bell wrote:You’re town because reaver was town.
Hey, why'd you decide to pocket my slot?

Which veteran told you I was a good pocketing target
which made me think she's genuinely afraid of being pocketed as a new player.
In post 3121, shellyc wrote:
In post 3108, shellyc wrote:how am I "disappointing" though
don't ignore this Jackson
making sure points don't remain unexplained, although the point was against her; I like a bit
In post 3125, shellyc wrote:
In post 3123, Bell wrote:You don’t have to,
Shellyc is just figuring out the terminology. She’s newish here.
What does this even refer to?
This also supports my feeling that Shelly is genuinely afraid of being pocketed as a new player.
In post 3147, shellyc wrote:
In post 3144, Ydrasse wrote:yeaaah. i think bell's slot is something we revisit after mm tho.
I finished Newbie 2023. Will update my signature.

Bell is playing EXACTLY like how they played in that game
In post 3154, shellyc wrote:Bell is very townie. they show a lot of town energy and emotion imo

Ydrasse Bell Jackson are solid TRs here
I like the take on Bell and Jackson here, once again. I'd just like to know why Ydrasse is towny, because I don't think I've seen it anywhere.

My conclusion is that Shelly is town.

I didn't think I said I wanted shelly shot? I think shelly is likely just cocky newb!town
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Post Post #4796 (isolation #711) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:05 pm

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Shelly has one town game, I'll give that a comparison when I finish work.
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Post Post #4830 (isolation #712) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:15 pm

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Just finished work but probably can’t post until I get home because I don’t wanna pull my laptop out and I hate forums on mobile which others probably could understand. I did read the thread though and I’ll say my thoughts soon.
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Post Post #4831 (isolation #713) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:32 pm

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In post 4801, Bell wrote:Should we be full claiming tomorrow?
I think it's not important if NPOM flips red but if they don't then yeah probably.
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Post Post #4832 (isolation #714) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:33 pm

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In post 4802, shellyc wrote:If NPOM flips scum we are in an insanely good position

I don't oppose massclaim here
The first bit is pointless to say, as it is not seeming to answer anything nor lead to anything. But I oppose a mass-claim if they do flip red, but if not then I'm all for it.
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Post Post #4833 (isolation #715) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:34 pm

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In post 4809, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Me 2. Oh, i forgot to claim I'm unlynchable.
If only >:)
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Post Post #4834 (isolation #716) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:35 pm

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In post 4813, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Could actually clear A50 and Hiraki because does scum!shelly out two of her scumbuddies here? If shelly is red that is.
Shelly was sussing their buddy in my recent newbie game iirc, could be wrong and that was also d1 so maybe it's different.
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Post Post #4836 (isolation #717) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:52 pm

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In post 4835, Hiraki wrote:
In post 4805, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not disagreeing there's a chance of A50/Hiraki scumteam though.
if it helps, i intend to vote A50 tomorrow
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Post Post #4837 (isolation #718) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:52 pm

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In post 4836, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 4835, Hiraki wrote:
In post 4805, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not disagreeing there's a chance of A50/Hiraki scumteam though.
if it helps, i intend to vote A50 tomorrow
Same
Is this because it resolves your slot or do you SR them? Or possibly both
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Post Post #4839 (isolation #719) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:56 pm

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In post 4838, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 4836, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 4835, Hiraki wrote:
In post 4805, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not disagreeing there's a chance of A50/Hiraki scumteam though.
if it helps, i intend to vote A50 tomorrow
Same
If we all agree on that then MM might as well just vig them and we can focus on who else to lynch.
I didn't really want to directly tell the vigi who to shoot as I am not entirely sure if mafia can use that information against us or not. But yeah I was lowkey pushing for that so we can see if Hiraki is scum or not (if A50 is scum so would Hiraki 80%) although if a green flip on A50 happens I am unsure on their slot. But I'll have to re-read their ISO + finish reading it knowing that.
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Post Post #4840 (isolation #720) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:56 pm

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Either shoot Hiraki or A50, but I SR A50 more so I prefer them.
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Post Post #4842 (isolation #721) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:00 pm

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In post 4841, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 4839, JacksonVirgo wrote:(if A50 is scum so would Hiraki 80%)
Is this based on lacking interactions between the two or something else?
Interactions mainly, specifically that one vote/revote from Hiraki is seriously pinging me.
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Post Post #4843 (isolation #722) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:00 pm

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Also I red-checked A50 ;)
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Post Post #4844 (isolation #723) » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:00 pm

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In post 4843, JacksonVirgo wrote:Also I red-checked A50 ;)
jkjk... unless
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Post Post #4854 (isolation #724) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:01 am

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In post 4845, Bell wrote:I sent Micc a message.
Incase manatee doesn’t come back.
Yeah alright, hopefully we get a flip soon.
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Post Post #4855 (isolation #725) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:02 am

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In post 4848, Hiraki wrote:
In post 4837, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 4836, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 4835, Hiraki wrote:
In post 4805, NoPowerOverMe wrote:I'm not disagreeing there's a chance of A50/Hiraki scumteam though.
if it helps, i intend to vote A50 tomorrow
Same
Is this because it resolves your slot or do you SR them? Or possibly both
idrc about resolving my slot?
So you SR them. Alright, I lowkey just expected that no idea why I aksed that
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Post Post #4856 (isolation #726) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:03 am

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In post 4852, Bell wrote:Why?

Tangential:
I got a response from Micc. Says he’ll get this sorted. Still gunna be a little while, probably
Alright, sad
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Post Post #4857 (isolation #727) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:04 am

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In post 4853, Town looter wrote:Hi team, I haven't caught up since late 180's, anything interesting happen? I will catch up properly during night.
Still waiting on the NPOM flip. Nothing of real interest on that outside of A50 likely getting shot, and that may resolve Hiraki. So 3 of the poe should be sorted by morning.
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Post Post #4858 (isolation #728) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:11 am

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Does anyone know where I can find how many posts I need to evolve from Mafia Scum.
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Post Post #4862 (isolation #729) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:36 am

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In post 4859, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You need 5000 posts total for next
I need 2000 more, alright thank you
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Post Post #4863 (isolation #730) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:38 am

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Nobody really cares but this song is dope
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Post Post #4865 (isolation #731) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:27 pm

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Just so I know. Outside of a Miller (who should have already claimed), is there any way for me getting false-positive checks? Or possibly false-negatives
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Post Post #4868 (isolation #732) » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:59 pm

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In post 4866, shellyc wrote:godfather and framer aren't normal

only miller I think
Alright, even better.
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Post Post #4870 (isolation #733) » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:22 am

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In post 4869, Glitch wrote:
In post 4868, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 4866, shellyc wrote:godfather and framer aren't normal

only miller I think
Alright, even better.
A miller claim after a red investigation result should not even be considered though. Miller should have claimed a long time ago. Any red checks now should be immediately eliminated.
Yeah, I think I said that millers would have already claimed so they're not an issue. If not I definitely thought it
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Post Post #4878 (isolation #734) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:10 am

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Um, Titus?

Assuming the vigi shot Hiraki, I did not expect them to be shot as if A50 flipped town I was gonna TR them but Hiraki's flip doesn't really solve much.
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Post Post #4884 (isolation #735) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:19 am

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I think the super townie players shouldn't need to claim anything, but those in the poe or possible poe should.
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Post Post #4889 (isolation #736) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:34 am

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In post 4888, Glitch wrote:
In post 4884, JacksonVirgo wrote:I think the super townie players shouldn't need to claim anything, but those in the poe or possible poe should.
The super towny players should claim too. Some of them are the claims I'm most interested in seeing.

I did recruit. I'll let you know who when the time is right.

I have already claimed neighborizer or I would start us off. But since I've already claimed, I nominate shellyc for first claim.
Nah, A50 should claim first.
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Post Post #4890 (isolation #737) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:35 am

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In post 4880, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Ugh such a bad vig shott.
Agreed
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Post Post #4891 (isolation #738) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:36 am

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In post 4885, stan1ey wrote:where would you put me JV?
Wdym? Are you asking if I have you in the poe? Yeah I do, I only have 2/3 people that I think a full-claim may not be necessary and one of those have already claimed.
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Post Post #4892 (isolation #739) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:36 am

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In post 4887, Titus wrote:
In post 4878, JacksonVirgo wrote:Um, Titus?

Assuming the vigi shot Hiraki, I did not expect them to be shot as if A50 flipped town I was gonna TR them but Hiraki's flip doesn't really solve much.
VOTE: A50
I targeted MM.

With scum supposing I was on you, I could protect another PR. I don't regret lying to you in the slightest.
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Post Post #4895 (isolation #740) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:38 am

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In post 4888, Glitch wrote:
In post 4884, JacksonVirgo wrote:I think the super townie players shouldn't need to claim anything, but those in the poe or possible poe should.
The super towny players should claim too. Some of them are the claims I'm most interested in seeing.

I did recruit. I'll let you know who when the time is right.

I have already claimed neighborizer or I would start us off. But since I've already claimed, I nominate shellyc for first claim.
Why do you think a mass-claim is good? To weed out scum? Then why do you want the townie players to claim

pedit: Smart idea Titus
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Post Post #4898 (isolation #741) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:39 am

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@Shelly, wait for your claim
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Post Post #5016 (isolation #742) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:46 pm

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In post 4901, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Why couldn’t people just believe me on my NPOM and Hiraki read.
What?
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Post Post #5017 (isolation #743) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:48 pm

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In post 4907, shellyc wrote:Nope! I am not a fan of bussing anyways tbh

I'm a Vanilla Townie.


any questions?
Dude it wasn't your time :c
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Post Post #5018 (isolation #744) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:50 pm

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In post 4914, Glitch wrote:
In post 4910, Titus wrote:
In post 4908, Glitch wrote:Tbh it may have been a mistake but Titus gets points for not trusting JV to call the shots on Titus's night action.

My SR on Norway has been heavily impacted by our interactions since I recruited him. Do you SR norway?? Why?
Why do I get points for not trusting JV? Do you SR JV?
I TL JV but I hard TR you.

JV seems to have something up his sleeve that he doesn't want us to know the details of yet which is fine. But until I know what that is, I wouldn't necessarily trust him to call the shots of my night action.
It's pretty obvious what my even-night ability is if you ISO me properly lol, but I'll wait for the mass-claim to come my way.
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Post Post #5019 (isolation #745) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:50 pm

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In post 4915, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I still scumread Shelly for his "confidence" on a NPOM scumflip.
Why don't I like this?
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Post Post #5020 (isolation #746) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:51 pm

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In post 4917, NorwegianboyEE wrote:But A50 is just like, somehow evem more scummy so i don’t mind voting there to give them rest. They look very tired of having rolled scum this game. Let’s give them the mercy kill.
Dude. How could you possibly be this flip floppy.
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Post Post #5023 (isolation #747) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:55 pm

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In post 4919, NorwegianboyEE wrote:While on the topic of Titus, Not sure i like Titus avoiding to do what Jackson suggested. And how they’ve been always conveniently targeting players that don’t die.
I'm okay with them not choosing my target, they don't know what my ability is and if I am bluffing and/or if mafia knows my role and knows I am bluffing (which I wasn't but yeah) and/or is not fully trusting me yet due to experience and not knowing normal setup stuff. Any of those would be a reason to not, and since they're a babysitter that's a whole heckin lot of risk.

My words are broken because I just woke up. Also not targeting players that die is kinda a ?? reasoning really, I got this role in a upick once that protects people in a sense (it was a reflector) and I don't remember saving someone once even though I was trying.

If I am wrong about any of that, egg on my face.
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Post Post #5025 (isolation #748) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:57 pm

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In post 4924, NorwegianboyEE wrote:And if Titus is targeting PR’s and scum knows killing town!Titus can get two town at the same time, why has this not happened?
I was just about to semi-claim but then Bell swooped me so this is a pedit redaction but I'm posting this anyway
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Post Post #5026 (isolation #749) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:59 pm

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In post 4933, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 4932, Marshmallow Marshall wrote:I confirm I was visited by Titus btw, if that interests anyone.
Ok i’ll trust their claim then.
Seriously? Why would a Loud anything claim a visit on someone which they didn't visit. And when the target claims the visit was real, you retract the SR.
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Post Post #5027 (isolation #750) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:00 pm

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In post 4936, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Tbh it might be more telling of scum!Shelly than scum!A50 that vig wasn’t targeted for the kill tonight.
Because scum probably believed they would target A50, so the fact they didn’t might prove he was not a threat.
Sigh i guess we should think more about this.
UNVOTE:
Scum shooting a vigi doesn't stop the shot iirc so I don't fully understand this point.
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Post Post #5029 (isolation #751) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:02 pm

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In post 4949, Bell wrote:
In post 4944, Ydrasse wrote:i am conftown as well! i was gunsmith inno.

i’ll be around later to try and get back into this game properly.
Sorry. :igmeou:
You know this isn’t true with two goon flips
This is also true
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Post Post #5030 (isolation #752) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:03 pm

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In post 5028, Bell wrote:I think what feels off is the town reads i’m suddenly getting.
They’re very late.
What do you mean?
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Post Post #5031 (isolation #753) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:03 pm

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In post 4944, Ydrasse wrote:i am conftown as well! i was gunsmith inno.

i’ll be around later to try and get back into this game properly.
You *could* be scum doctor but I think that's a stretch


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Post Post #5032 (isolation #754) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:04 pm

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In post 4952, Almost50 wrote:So, who did JV check??? Shouldn't you a;; have asked him that before you started claiming??
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Post Post #5033 (isolation #755) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:05 pm

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In post 4960, Almost50 wrote:
In post 4955, stan1ey wrote:
In post 4952, Almost50 wrote:So, who did JV check??? Shouldn't you a;; have asked him that before you started claiming??
their alternative night cop, no?
Yes, and last night was an ODD night.
Last night wasn't my Cop night.
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Post Post #5034 (isolation #756) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:05 pm

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In post 4967, Bell wrote:My step dad, for whatever reason, wishes to greet you all.
Hello from the other side!
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Post Post #5038 (isolation #757) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:11 pm

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In post 4991, Almost50 wrote:And that IDIOT who has a DOCTOR ability and still thinks Titus is Town is better off playing solitaire
Why would a doctor be an idiot?
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Post Post #5047 (isolation #758) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:19 pm

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In post 5011, Almost50 wrote:A Watcher is ENOUGH to catch the Scum Doctor. But we do NOT have a DOCTOR claim even. So, either Titus is said Scum "Doctor" or JV is.

And DDL didn't necessarily claim Cop to draw a Cop claim. CHECK YOUR FACTS, bro. JV had ALREADY claimed his Cop ability BEFORE DDL ever claimed.

P-edit: How can you put "you're bright" & "you’re making a clear mistake" together in the same description?? :lol:
You think I'm bright when I'm UNINFORMED, but I'm dull when I do have the info???
We might not even have a scum doctor to begin with, yet you're basing your reads around having one.

Also where did I claim my cop ability? I don't remember doing so ngl. Unless you role-copped me :thonk:
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Post Post #5050 (isolation #759) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:21 pm

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In post 5039, Bell wrote:
In post 5030, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 5028, Bell wrote:I think what feels off is the town reads i’m suddenly getting.
They’re very late.
What do you mean?
I feel like a large portion of the player list didn’t call me obv town until today.
And I don’t think I did anything recently to make me seem more town. I was partly responsible for miseliminating NPOM. Reads should be going down, not up.
OHHHHH, I thought you were talking about your own reads.
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Post Post #5053 (isolation #760) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:29 pm

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In post 5051, Bell wrote:I don’t deny it’s unlikely that fwesnid investigated the one role that he’d get a negative result on while still being scum in regards to ydrasse. But it was weird to me that she wouldn’t be self aware enough to know that you’re not cleared after a gunsmith check.
It kinda reminds me of a game I was semi-recently playing on my home-site where scum was claimed to be green-checked, and they went with it calling themselves essentially masons with them.

I can find the link if need be, but it's not a far-fetched way to look at it. Although would a scum-doctor exist in a setup like this? With a Babysitter and Gunsmith (both of which are loud btw). Setup spec time, why are both of them loud?
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Post Post #5055 (isolation #761) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:30 pm

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In post 5054, Bell wrote:Musical mafia. :0
Oh lmfao genius
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Post Post #5058 (isolation #762) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:03 pm

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I am starting to SR NEE again, the solve could be easily A50/Stan/NEE
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Post Post #5066 (isolation #763) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:27 pm

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In post 5064, Bell wrote:Just finished a game where scum was gone for 7 days and we spent the entire time poking at each other and wondering if we were in conspiracy. So stressful. :cry:
What's conspiracy?
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Post Post #5070 (isolation #764) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:38 pm

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In post 5065, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You know what would make this an ez game.
The two highest posters not being paranoid of the other (!)
So you're paranoid of me? uwu
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Post Post #5072 (isolation #765) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:40 pm

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In post 5067, Bell wrote:It’s when there are no scum. But the town doesn’t know that.
Wait, how would the game ever end?
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Post Post #5092 (isolation #766) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:02 pm

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Wait a second, I'm gonna read my own ISO for a second. I hope I am right, if I am I think A50 scum-claimed and/or scum-slipped.
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Post Post #5096 (isolation #767) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:11 pm

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I skimmed through pages 2+ that were before DDL claimed cop and I still don't see any cop claim that I did. I feel they role-copped me early on in the game, I did soft one of my abilities very early on. The cop part not being it iirc. I accidentally closed my ISO though so back I go

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Post Post #5097 (isolation #768) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:12 pm

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In post 5096, JacksonVirgo wrote:I skimmed through pages 2+ that were before DDL claimed cop and I still don't see any cop claim that I did. I feel they role-copped me early on in the game, I did soft one of my abilities very early on. The cop part not being it iirc. I accidentally closed my ISO though so back I go

pedit: NEE, I'll give it a reconsideration. Give me time to do some thinking, I'm not feeling the best today.
If I was role-copped, it makes a lot of sense as to why Titus was not killed last night nor myself. They would know I wasn't bluffing
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Post Post #5098 (isolation #769) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:22 pm

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In post 1825, JacksonVirgo wrote:Are there any roles similar to a Framer in normal setups? Because I'm assuming there would be which is why I brought that up
There's this post where I was clearing up any issues I would have with my check but I could not see any post where I claimed Cop or hinted at being a Cop. Although I might have missed the post, that's always a possibility.
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Post Post #5099 (isolation #770) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:35 pm

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Who was neighboured btw?
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Post Post #5101 (isolation #771) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:54 pm

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My plan completely failed last night, sad. Also I was refreshing the page for ages only to realise there was a new page... again
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Post Post #5103 (isolation #772) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:58 pm

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In post 5102, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 5101, JacksonVirgo wrote:My plan completely failed last night, sad. Also I was refreshing the page for ages only to realise there was a new page... again
No battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy.
Yeah but it was foolproof unless scum saw through my triple bluff. I tried to wifom the heck out of everything and it would have had little room for error because of the ways I played my cards.
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Post Post #5120 (isolation #773) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:22 pm

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Sup fam, it's ya boi
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Post Post #5122 (isolation #774) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:24 pm

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In post 5107, Town looter wrote:
In post 4907, shellyc wrote:Nope! I am not a fan of bussing anyways tbh

I'm a Vanilla Townie.


any questions?
I am town night 3 gunsmith. I have a big ole spiel about shit that I saved to my PC but have had a chance to post it and this shit has exploded.

I used my night action on Shelly.

She has a gun.

Given claim she is confirmed scum.
Wait there's two gunsmiths? I mean we can lynch one and shoot the other if wrong

VOTE: Shellyc

Scum is still probably within NEE/Stan/A50
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Post Post #5125 (isolation #775) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:26 pm

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In post 5121, Bell wrote:Did you know that shelly beat me by buddying me into submission in a newbie game recently?

And then she just did it again in front of me.
That’s cold.
Is that the game with minimegabyte? That's the only game with shelly I really knew since that's the game my gf got cucked by shelly about outside of my own game and knowing all their games which I looked at just before to read shelly.
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Post Post #5128 (isolation #776) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:28 pm

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In post 5126, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 5122, JacksonVirgo wrote:Scum is still probably within NEE/Stan/A50
Shelly being scum clears me you dingus.
How so
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Post Post #5131 (isolation #777) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:32 pm

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There could be any number of PR's in any setup I don't think using "too many" is a thing you can really use without other means. I'll give my thoughts on setup spec because I have never done that before really and it seems really fun to try and think of.

pedit: I have been reading, are you talking about your push on them?
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Post Post #5135 (isolation #778) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:41 pm

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NEE is scum confirmed
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Post Post #5137 (isolation #779) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:45 pm

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NEE IS SCUM CONFIRMED
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Post Post #5138 (isolation #780) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:45 pm

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I don't want my reads to be wrong again :c
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Post Post #5140 (isolation #781) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:49 pm

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Dead/Confirmed Town PRs

- Town Loud 3-shot Gunsmith
- Town Odd-Night Doctor Even-Night Cop
- Town Disloyal Roleblocker
- Town Vengeful Vigilante
- Town Watcher

PR claims

- Town Night 3 Gunsmith
- Town Loud Babysitter
- Town Neighbourizer

In addition to those claims, we have two goon flips. I expect all three other scum to be PR's considering I believe majority of the PR claims and I doubt scum would have so many goons with this much town PR's.

Having a Night 3 gunsmith check with a 3x loud gunsmith is lowkey weird. I'll have to look back on how looter reacted to the other gunsmith claim.

Spoiler:
In post 1705, Town looter wrote:Haven't caught up, still only skimmed at best from about page 60... I'll try to catch up before deadline.

UNVOTE: Fwesnid for now, although there is a scenario where his role comes with a red title.

Yeah it's probably legit.
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Post Post #5141 (isolation #782) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:50 pm

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FUCK, ignore that post
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Post Post #5143 (isolation #783) » Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:53 pm

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Although I do think looter's claim makes sense with that response to fwes's claim
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Post Post #5155 (isolation #784) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:28 am

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In post 5149, shellyc wrote:
In post 5125, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 5121, Bell wrote:Did you know that shelly beat me by buddying me into submission in a newbie game recently?

And then she just did it again in front of me.
That’s cold.
Is that the game with minimegabyte? That's the only game with shelly I really knew since that's the game my gf got cucked by shelly about outside of my own game and knowing all their games which I looked at just before to read shelly.
The game bell refers to is 2023, not minimegabytes game
Yeah alright
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Post Post #5194 (isolation #785) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:03 am

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In post 5167, Glitch wrote:UNVOTE: A50

Omg
I am so freaking glad I finally got a claim out of Norway and Looter. I have been trying to get a claim out of them through mass claim because Norway refused to claim in our PT. I have been suspicious of him this entire time but have been trying to keep that under wraps from him until his claim because:

I am also a motion detector.
I am told each night if the player I recruited visited someone or was visited by someone. All 3 nights came back positive for visiting or being visited.

That's why I've had a solid TR on Titus all along. Because I detected motion on IKSF N1. The real kicker is that Norway, claimed VT, was positive for motion detecting N2 but no PR said they targeted Norway. So the question is...
Did any PR target Norway on N2?
If so PLEASE say something.

If not we have some hardcore WIFOM coming our way. Is Norway scum lying about his claim? Or is Norway town who was visited by a non killing scum PR that night?

N3 Town Looter was positive for motion which makes sense with his claim. Is shelly actually scum though, but then why did Norway immediately jump ship on the A50 wagon he's been pushing so hard and move to his scum buddy rather than take a little time? Is it because he has in the most recent 10-12 pages lost some town points with others so he wants to be first on a scum lynch? TL has no reason to lie because if he is shelly flips town and then it's his head next. But what the hell is going on with Norway??

That's why I recruited Looter instead of my too TR to the neighborhood. I don't think our hood will be quite as useful because I've suspected scum in it all along since the IKSF flip.
Wasn't Norway recruited N2
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Post Post #5195 (isolation #786) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:04 am

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Wait, that was glitch Tf

Let me re-read
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Post Post #5198 (isolation #787) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:09 am

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In post 5167, Glitch wrote:UNVOTE: A50

Omg
I am so freaking glad I finally got a claim out of Norway and Looter. I have been trying to get a claim out of them through mass claim because Norway refused to claim in our PT. I have been suspicious of him this entire time but have been trying to keep that under wraps from him until his claim because:

I am also a motion detector.
I am told each night if the player I recruited visited someone or was visited by someone. All 3 nights came back positive for visiting or being visited.

That's why I've had a solid TR on Titus all along. Because I detected motion on IKSF N1. The real kicker is that Norway, claimed VT, was positive for motion detecting N2 but no PR said they targeted Norway. So the question is...
Did any PR target Norway on N2?
If so PLEASE say something.

If not we have some hardcore WIFOM coming our way. Is Norway scum lying about his claim? Or is Norway town who was visited by a non killing scum PR that night?

N3 Town Looter was positive for motion which makes sense with his claim. Is shelly actually scum though, but then why did Norway immediately jump ship on the A50 wagon he's been pushing so hard and move to his scum buddy rather than take a little time? Is it because he has in the most recent 10-12 pages lost some town points with others so he wants to be first on a scum lynch? TL has no reason to lie because if he is shelly flips town and then it's his head next. But what the hell is going on with Norway??

That's why I recruited Looter instead of my too TR to the neighborhood. I don't think our hood will be quite as useful because I've suspected scum in it all along since the IKSF flip.
So if nobody claims a visit on IKS it's probably safe to say that Titus is almost confirmed town, assuming your claim is real. That or IKS did the kill which I find extremely unlikely.
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Post Post #5199 (isolation #788) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:10 am

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In post 5177, shellyc wrote:Looter probs Rolecopped me or something and knew I was a target for today’s lim since I am VT
TMI of a mafia rolecop possibly? Would make sense with scum!a50 as well with my logic from earlier
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Post Post #5203 (isolation #789) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:12 am

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For what reason would a Motion Detector Neighbourizer be in the setup?
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Post Post #5210 (isolation #790) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:16 am

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In post 5206, shellyc wrote:To neigbourise scummy people And get investigative info from it.
I can't believe I am seeing a shelly/a50/glitch team. Today almost completely subverted my reads
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Post Post #5214 (isolation #791) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:17 am

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Shelly's Mafia Townie of course.
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Post Post #5227 (isolation #792) » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:07 am

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In post 5216, shellyc wrote:What if I’m an unaware backup?
Unaware or false roles aren't normal as far as I am aware
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Post Post #5292 (isolation #793) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:10 am

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Titus you are an idiot. I have absolutely no time to do anything right now but I'll post soon
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Post Post #5293 (isolation #794) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:45 am

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I have no idea when I finish because I might be called to stay back further
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Post Post #5305 (isolation #795) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:43 pm

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I just finished work but don't be suprised if I disappear again, I may be called back.
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Post Post #5306 (isolation #796) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:45 pm

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In post 5233, Titus wrote:I visited Jackson last night.

@Jackson, what's your result?
I can confirm this, although that was really stupid. I would have thought you would have targeted someone scummy, although I suppose you wifomed.

Again, Titus be on me tonight alright?
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Post Post #5308 (isolation #797) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:49 pm

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I forgot the second half of that post, I targeted A50 because we NEEDED them solved and I wasn't confident that MM would shoot them considering how they were TRing them (I wasn't sure where they were at around EoD).
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Post Post #5309 (isolation #798) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:50 pm

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In post 5307, ralph217 wrote:totus only voted for town this game
In post 2118, Titus wrote:VOTE: Siteflaking

I feel like making a completely arbitrary move with the deadline frozen.
except this on which was just a park with no reason or push so distance basicly . VOTE: Titus
Titus is also semi-confirmed via Glitch and IKS
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Post Post #5310 (isolation #799) » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:52 pm

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In post 5250, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If any town target me for any reason on night 2 i would like them to confirm it right now.
Otherwise i’ll assume it was a scum PR.
(If you don’t know what i’m talking about, Glitch got an positive for motion detector on night 2 on me. Which looks really bad for me so if any town did this i would like for them to just admit it right now.)
Oh shit, I forgot Motion detector doesn't only detect visits on them. Do we think anyone visited NEE or did NEE visit while claiming VT
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