Mafia 80: Nice Shot! Mafia. Game over, results at 1381

[curiouskarmadog]

camn's is shorter,

vote farside

, for having a baby, and not naming him CKD.

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Vote: Elvis Knits

for being a far cooler alt than TS.

my god, EK is an alt of DGB too?

I am never going to be in a game that DGB isnt.

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zomg & vote flipping

at least he knows how to vote

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anatole, you didnt unvote because you never actually voted...

now, going to sit back and watch BM make out with a newbie...

"I am only a puppy"?...I am sure this is a clue to who you are..sadly, I am daft...

[curiouskarmadog]

I wear a PINK collar. And I was in your cult mini...

in the game now coach, throw me the ball

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BM, yeah you ana seemed to be having some fun..(joking).

at any rate, unvote, as long has farside names her next baby after me.

as much as I like a good BM wagon (mostly because of his reaction), cant say that I approve of a wagon based solely on random joke votes.

vote ChaosOmega

, rather pressure the non poster (we have a couple)...and I am confused what his name means.

[curiouskarmadog]

vote: curiouskarmadog

Now that I've posted, I am not a non-poster, and you can safely remove your vote.

this is true, nice OMGUS vote though...will catch you when I start voting non-content posters...

next non poster...

unvote, vote springlullaby

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BM, yeah you ana seemed to be having some fun..(joking).

at any rate, unvote, as long has farside names her next baby after me.

as much as I like a good BM wagon (mostly because of his reaction), cant say that I approve of a wagon based solely on random joke votes.

vote ChaosOmega

, rather pressure the non poster (we have a couple)...and I am confused what his name means.

you dont approve of a wagon based on joke-votes? Then why are you random-voting??

Anatole, would you mind awfully voting for CKD on my behalf?

BM

did I random vote CO? have I random voted SPring?..and 4 joke votes seem a bit much.

all, you are getting your little snuggle buddy to vote me...

hey man, I wont judge you, just dont get anything on me.

[curiouskarmadog]

all=aww

[curiouskarmadog]

BM the underdog?
me not talkative?

what the shit is going on?

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lol..BM commands you rise...rise newbies and do his bidding..

side note: BM, you need to get rid of the sikario sig, Sik was a horrid player that always gets replaced in his games for lurking, it discredits your other sigs.

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my point was, I didnt random vote CO or Spring, thus I am not currently random voting.

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in reference to the 4 joke votes on you..I thought it was a bit much at this point in the game....I was actually an opponent of your joke vote BW...but somehow it landed me with my own...

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fool's and weirdo = underdogs...ohhh snap

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yeah I did...but farside didnt have 4 votes on her like you do....I was commenting on your joke vote bandwagon of 4, not on the fact people joke vote...I do that all the time...you asked me why I was random voting..I answer that I wasnt (at the time you asked)...

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fool's and weirdo = underdogs...ohhh snap

wtf?

you have a vote because someone feels like you are the underdog

I was defining an underdog..

....also, I have pressure?

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you have a vote in your favor (I mean)...someone felt you were an underdog thus I needed a vote.

at any rate, I am for random voting, I agree it causes conversation which is always good...I was just commenting on the size of your random vote BW and how fast it developed, I was curious where it came from and where is was going.

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spring, why does my posts make you head hurt?..or is this too a joke vote?

[curiouskarmadog]

So, do we know any information as of yet?

how do you define information?

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BM is a sweet man? (BM, that should be sigged)

BM, are you a sweet man?..and did we have an arguement that I missed?

Camn, I have had arguements with BM...very heated arguements...in both cases that I recall (we both were town)..trust me if BM and I lock horns you will know it.

I also note you miscateragoizing our conversation/joking.

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unvote, vote, musher333

...avoiding questions that were posed to you?

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CKD can you please explain why you are moving your vote so much. One unvote and pressure vote does not make sense. Why not ask questions more and push for who you find scummie?

is it not working?...both people that I voted immediately posted (when they hadnt yet) and voted (both for me)...I voted musher, because a.) he avoided answering my questions, and b.) appears to be role fishing.

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unvote, vote, musher333

...avoiding questions that were posed to you?

My bad, well by information i mean we don't need to lynch people for no apparent reason, information that will help us like when people make common scumtells eg lurking and OMGUS's non stop. That answer the question?

What information (of that nature) have you gathered at this point?

CKD is lurking. just an fyi.

BM, really?..you know I am in quite a few games, since you are such a stud at meta-ing, I assumed you have found several games that I have posted that I am behind and need to catch up (in which I havent posted real content is many pages), why did you "fyi" that information too?...I posted on Friday in this game....was there a question that you asked me that I missed? Any reason you didnt comment on other lurkers in the game?

How are my nice townie friends doing?

I dont like this kind of jokes, for the record.

QFT, and noted

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CKD is lurking. just an fyi.

BM, really?..you know I am in quite a few games, since you are such a stud at meta-ing, I assumed you have found several games that I have posted that I am behind and need to catch up (in which I havent posted real content is many pages), why did you "fyi" that information too?...I posted on Friday in this game....was there a question that you asked me that I missed? Any reason you didnt comment on other lurkers in the game?

You are well aware, im sure, that commenting on ongoing games is bad sportsmanship. Please refrain from doing so. I dont care if you are lurking in other games. The fact is, you were lurking here until i called you out on it. no excuse to lurk at this stage of a game.

You hate it when someone calls out your BS dont you? Really I was lurking? I posted Friday it was Sunday that you said that...that is lurking BM? ANy reason you have stretch at this point in the game?

[curiouskarmadog]

getting beat down with end of the month work...hopefully will have time May 1 to post if needed...(sending this to all my games)

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Claim: Nervous Cop

ha!

umm Populartajo-lack of BM? I posted 8 hours ago. Even i have to sleep sometimes. Whats your prob?

BM

quit lurking..ha! (take two)

Well seen as i have only completed 2 games i would say i am new, the name includes games you are in which brings me to a total of 7, if i had finished 7 i could understand not being a newb (to me counting as IC is non newb).

question, your completed games that you have played in, did you continue reading them after you died to see who won?

oh crap, scratch that last comment. forgot i already did.

Ha!…ok, that is your quota of BM related laughs for this game.

What do you mean real proof of the game meaning anything, there is nothing much happened so far.

Nor are you trying to make it mean anything.

completely lost on this back and forth.

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Well seen as i have only completed 2 games i would say i am new, the name includes games you are in which brings me to a total of 7, if i had finished 7 i could understand not being a newb (to me counting as IC is non newb).

question, your completed games that you have played in, did you continue reading them after you died to see who won?

Well i was at the end of one and in the other yes, but quite a while after it finished.

so that I understand..you did read the games after you were lnyched in them right?

also did you ever answer Elvis's question for 208 and I miss it?

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Musher, please dont avoid this question agian.

Well seen as i have only completed 2 games i would say i am new, the name includes games you are in which brings me to a total of 7, if i had finished 7 i could understand not being a newb (to me counting as IC is non newb).

question, your completed games that you have played in, did you continue reading them after you died to see who won?

Well i was at the end of one and in the other yes, but quite a while after it finished.

so that I understand..you did read the games after you were lnyched in them right?

also did you ever answer Elvis's question for 208 and I miss it?

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You have got to be kidding me…

I want to hear more from musher, like had he never heard of vig or RB before? But in generaly I am thinking he has made the comments I didn't like because he is a newb, and not because of his allignment.

Anything in particular that you want to hear or just a bit more of a contribution?

STILL WAITING for Musher to answer my question from 267, I am going to restate them ONE MORE TIME in bold..

1.) SO that I understand, you did INDEED read the ended game that you were lynched in to see who won and who didn’t. Your answer was confusing and vague. A simple yes or no will do.
2.) ANSWER Elvis’s question, which he has asked 2-3 times now. Are you saying that you have not heard of a RB or a Vig?
3.) Why have you avoided both of our question in this regard MULTIPLE TIMES?

Im disliking Elvis, Rice CKD. Jumping too much agains the newbie for my taste.

So, are you saying that a “newbie” can not be scum? Musher has stated somethings I need clarification on and I am getting pissed that he keeps avoiding the questions. This comment is stinking of hypocrisy and finger pointing. First, A.) what have you done to scum hunt? And b.) why on page 12 is your random vote still on a “newbie”?

[curiouskarmadog]

that is what I thought you were going to say...

I answered these, i had not heard of Vig and RB, and yes i read the end of BOTH games

Confirm vote Musher.

In completed Newbie Game 547, there was a Mafia RB..you were in that game (lynched day 1) and you read the games, plese explain...or back pedal.

[curiouskarmadog]

what claim is farside talking about?

[curiouskarmadog]

She was probably skimming and saw talk of my claim request and thought mush had claimed.

then why did she unvote, based on a claim that didnt exist?

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She is doing this in every game, as of late.

Not that it's at all helpful.

doing what every game?

I am in several games with her and her posting is down yes, but I dont see her making "mistakes" about claims which compel her to unvote.


This post makes a

completely unacceptable

reference to an ongoing game.

~Adel

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post coming today..

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mostly to force myself to post here today..there are about 5 games I need to update...posting that, forces myself to make time to post here today.

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it is one of those things...well, I said I would..therefore I will..if I didnt say it..I could find other things to distract me while being on the internet...

bottom line...I am in too many games atm..guess i thought I would have more free time...

(back to cleaning, while watching my hopes of catching BM in the "top posters on site"..guess I will just settle for top 20.)

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crap, going to have to post (replies and questions) in the morning.

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Actually I have caught back up and there is really nothing to comment on. I still think that Musher is lying..I think it is clear that he is newbie scum. People seem to think that newibe=newbie town.

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Do you have a read on anyone else?

I dont typically like to address who I feel is town (anymore) unless it is painfully obvious.

BM, I thought was playing strangely, but due to page 16, I shall not say more....currently, it seems that BM is bored with this game..null tell.

getting vibes from AK and Rice, also find their voting habits interesting.

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So, you think musher is faking his cluelessness?

in regards to what post? did you fact check the COMPLETED game I referenced?

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too much WIFOM

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caught up on the thread from this weekend.

BM, stated the only thing I really wanted to comment on...so I (ugh) agree with BM on this one.

opportunistic vote on the largest wagon aside from his own ^

Rice points out 4-6 people he finds fishy...does he push a case?..no, does he explain why?..no...does he really do anything that is pro town?..no..

unvote, vote Rice

[curiouskarmadog]

caught up on the thread from this weekend.

BM, stated the only thing I really wanted to comment on...so I (ugh) agree with BM on this one.

opportunistic vote on the largest wagon aside from his own ^

Rice points out 4-6 people he finds fishy...does he push a case?..no, does he explain why?..no...does he really do anything that is pro town?..no..

unvote, vote Rice

Do you realize its kinda difficult to push a case with so many players and so many pages? Anyways, I still find Rice the scummier and I agree his vote feels silly. Rice, why did you vote for Musher?

this is an interesting post....noted

[curiouskarmadog]

caught up on the thread from this weekend.

BM, stated the only thing I really wanted to comment on...so I (ugh) agree with BM on this one.

opportunistic vote on the largest wagon aside from his own ^

Rice points out 4-6 people he finds fishy...does he push a case?..no, does he explain why?..no...does he really do anything that is pro town?..no..

unvote, vote Rice

Do you realize its kinda difficult to push a case with so many players and so many pages? Anyways, I still find Rice the scummier and I agree his vote feels silly. Rice, why did you vote for Musher?

this is an interesting post....noted

What do you mean?

I found it interesting that you sort of defend Rice in your post. I didnt say he had to push a case for every individual he listed as fishy...I would however, like a reason. He is casting a wide net and I want to know why. What I found "interesting" was your motivation behind posting that first sentence "do you realize...."

it really means little now, but might later..that is why it is "noted"

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at that moment?? because you just posted it, thats why. I know you have been riding Rice today THAT IS WHY, I found that first sentence interesting...and AGAIN in your last post, you say that you have found him scummy, yet also protown....

also, you find people who attack thier attackers and cast a wide net more pro town, over scum hunting and pushing a case that can be defending or replied to?

I think it needed be noted that you have been defending Rice, while suspecting him. You dont think that is important to point out?

[curiouskarmadog]

(posting this in all threads)

I am currently battling the fucking flu that is going around and my main computer decided to crash..at any rate, my posts will be light. I have 2-3 games that needs reread and I will get to those as promised. Hoping to have time this weekend to get caught up.

[curiouskarmadog]

whoa what?..did X really admit to fake bread crumbing cop?

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I agree black and white. Want to go ahead and tell us who your partners are?

Vote BM

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Right i'm at -2. I'd like explanations and/or apologies from everyone currently voting for me.
BM

lol, you really are rich BM...you fake claim cop and lie by telling us you have a guilty on someone who turns out to be a doctor, not too mention you also successfully directed a vig (for I dont see why a SK or mafia would have killed X) to kill that doctor and openingly ask (again directing) for doc protection. And to top of that shit pie, now you want apologies from everyone who has voted you today.

Really?

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BM, quit waving your WIFOM banner, it is sad and does not become you...quit insulting people, the TRUTH is your actions caused us to lose a doc. It was not protown to lie. It was not protown to direct the doc...it was not protown to cause the vig to kill the doc. It might have caused a cop to counter claim. Also, as my memory serves I have only seen you fake claim (in one completed game)..and you were cult.

You dont see a case? I have however, seen you push cases for much much less. Hell, in this game you pushed a case on a meta that was completely inaccurate. Quit insulting people...there is no retarded angle here.

I do agree it is a bad move as scum to do what you did...trading one for one is a shitty manuver, but you did successfully kill a doc and attempt to direct power roles last night. so it was a shitty manuver as town as well, more so town than scum....

vote stays

[curiouskarmadog]

going to be gone friday until monday, should be posting again on Tuesday...posting in all games.

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here, surprised BM is not lynched yet, so he must have said something that gave people pause (I am sure he said a lot of things)..

unvote

for now, until I can catch up.

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ok caught up...ha, I am scum if I vote BM and I am scum if I dont....well, I cant say that Bm is an idiot. he can be an arrogant asshole who I find is really not that good at scum hunting(on the most part), but I would not label him dumb. You are right BM, I wouldnt unvote someone I was sure was scum. It is hard for me to swallow that BMscum would make such a horrid manuver....or course, I can see anyone protown doing it either....you are an engima for the time being..

can you please go over again why you did that and why it was such a protown move?

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(ooc)happy scumday ckd!(/ooc)

wow, hey thanks.

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speaking of reading.

BM, are you purposely misunderstand Pop? He did not say that that no scum would be voting for you, he said that not everyone voting for you is scum.

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Anyways regarding BM, I'm sticking with my unvote. Part of me wants to lynch him as a punitive measure for getting our cop killed and for lying to town. However the question that others have raised and I'd like to raise again is: "Is BM arrogant enough to make a move like this as town?" It would take someone with an awfully big ego to assume that they'd be NK'd N1 and that their scum-sensors are good enough to lie to town. From BM's recent posts and from the reactions of others who have played with him I think the answer is yes.

RBT is a good lynch.

yes, unfornately BM is arrogant enough to do that....BM sails the S.S. Ego frequently. My problem is, he is trying to make it look like he was falling on some sword, when his gamibt cost us a Doc. I think I would probably crap myself if I saw Bm say, "I am sorry"....it was just a bad move. I am still debating if it was a BMscum bad move or a BMtown bad move, if it wasnt for his arrogance, my vote would still be on him.

also, I agree with a Rice wagon

[curiouskarmadog]

I understood it.

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vote Rice....

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and I was hoping he (rice) would ask to explain my vote.

[curiouskarmadog]

Sorry, I completely lost track of this game because of the euro. BM doesn't fit as a killer.

So who does? A little more input please.

qft

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Well i dont really wanna die, but we have plenty of time yet.

BM

You've never seen me fakeclaim Cop before with the intention of getting NKed?

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BM, so you werent trying to find scum Day 1, why?

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is that where you learned to fake claim cop to get the doc killed?

unvote, vote BM

, there was no reason to resort to insults..unless you are trying to discredit me,

Tell me BM, why insult me? What is the point? Do you feel better?

everything I have said is true. When YOU stated that you were trying to get NKed. Now you are saying you dont want to die. SO, are you back tracking or were you or were you not trying to "find scum" yesterday?

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also BM, I note that you are for BWs of or have FoS 6 people today. Any reasons for spreading your net so large?

[curiouskarmadog]

also BM, I note that you are for BWs of or have FoS 6 people today. Any reasons for spreading your net so large?

make that 7

[curiouskarmadog]

I care about MY ego more than the game???! you have got to be fucking kidding me...after the crap you pulled with your bogus meta and then lie Day 1?!...

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Camn, so you want to go on record today as saying that BM's lie yesterday was protown? Also camn, I have played several games here and I have seen maybe 1 vanilla try to get NKed, I dont think it is normal, and unless you are an alt, you are pretty new here, do you have some game (completed of course Adel) that you have seen vanillas try to get themselves NKed? Also if he wanted to get NKed, why did he claim clop? Since you are defending BM here, maybe you can answer this...

You know damn well what i'm 'on about'. How do you think i KNOW that you're scum??

Claim Cop

Guilty on Xtoxm.

Doc, please protect me tonight.

Thanks and Goodnight,

BM

If he wanted to die, why did he ask for the Doc to protect him?

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of course Rice is going to jump on with a FoS...I could have placed money down on that happening...Rice, dont want to look too OMGUS with a vote?

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but fake claiming a cop investigation on the doc is protown?

so you think BM was trying to pull a NK while asking for the Doc protection openly? If he was trying to sacrafice himself as you are defending him as, why did he have to say he had a scum investigation on X? Why couldnt he just blatantly and obviously breadcrumb cop?

also, I note you didnt address my question about where you got that it is common for vanillas to do this.

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the more I think about it...the more I sure BM is scum.....

it was a bad move for scum to be sure, but BM is arrogant enough to think he could talk himself out of a lynch today...especially backed by scum buddies, who I am sure BM groomed to help him today.

Camn, if you think BM is egotistical enough to pull that gambit as town, why is he not egotistical enough to do this as scum..

confirm vote BM

and when he flips scum, I know where my next vote is going.

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but fake claiming a cop investigation on the doc is protown?

so you think BM was trying to pull a NK while asking for the Doc protection openly? If he was trying to sacrafice himself as you are defending him as, why did he have to say he had a scum investigation on X? Why couldnt he just blatantly and obviously breadcrumb cop?

also, I note you didnt address my question about where you got that it is common for vanillas to do this.

I love the way in order to prove your point, you insist on emphasising that Xtoxm was the Doc. I do have to wonder if you would be pushing this atall, if Xtoxm had turned up vanilla. Its funny that you are trying to insinuate that i am somehow scum who knows the entire setup.

Why breadcrumb when i could claim? Its the same thing really. Just more up front and less confusing. We've already established why i claimed Cop guilty on Xtoxm. I thought he was scum. Again, what better than for a vanilla to nail scum on his first day?

I'm not sure how common it is for vanillas to do this. But certainly in this case it makes sense- especially knowing my personality. And it isnt exactly an unknown tactic- it's one of the first things you learn as a newbie.

BM

No comment on the fact that you state you wanted to be NKed, yet asked for doc protection?

[curiouskarmadog]

No comment on the fact that you state you wanted to be NKed, yet asked for doc protection?

BM??

[curiouskarmadog]

No comment on the fact that you state you wanted to be NKed, yet asked for doc protection?

BM??

Sorry, i thought you were reading. Camn already answered this on this page.

BM

so you are using camn's logic to defend yourself then?..Just want to make certian of this before I poke holes in it and then you back track saying that is not what you said.

why dont you put it in your own words BM...why did you state you lied to draw a NK, but ask for the doc protection.

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farside, I htink he is referring to post 825

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Camn, any games where you have seen a vanilla town do this...still waiting for that answer.

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I led wilderness trips with the youth for 5 years. We played approximately ONE MILLION games of werewolf. But we didn't transcribe any for your internet pleasure
Mostly when I would see this is when someone was pretty sure that a power role was going to get outed, forced to claim, and/or maybe night killed. Then they would claim to deflect it onto themselves, buying an additional invesigation day. Sometimes they got burned. USUALLY it was later on. But EVERY time they turned out to be common villagers.

Now. I answered you.

Please, in return.. can you reference a game where a MAFIA member fake-claimed cop in twilight? Have you EVER seen it? Heard of it? Thought about doing it? Because that I haven't seen. But then again.. I haven't played that many games with a twilight phase.

Please answer.

c

have never seen it..I also have never seen a townie fake claim cop at twilight and add a fake investigative result (scum no less), ask to be protected, and in the process get someone (In this case a doc) killed.

what is your point?

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Elvis, I think Rice was voitng for Gob..was IS scummy though is his "the BM lynch is fine with me" part of the post.

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was=what

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Unvote, Vote: Sierra

I can dig that.

BM

make that 8

who wont you attack today to get the heat off your back.

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I am still comfortable with my BM vote.

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out of town see sig

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back from my vacation..hoping to get to this game by the end of the week

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just looking at the voting and kill history this seems vote seems obvious.

Rice is scum

I can look over the vote on Musher Day 1 for self preservation reasons. Though you do little scum hunting and only jump on the bandwagon of the hour.

But, looking at the final vote count.

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Musher333:

6

:Xtoxm, My Milked Eek, camn, Riceballtail, Sierra, elvis_knits,

Riceballtail:

4

:

ChaosOmega

, goborage, curiouskarmadog, Musher333
Xtoxm:

4

:farside22, Anatole Kuragin, Battle Mage, populartajo
camn:

1

:Coron

No Lynch:

none

not voting:

1

:springlullaby

result of night 1 night actions:

12. ChaosOmega, tracker, killed night 1

Yesterday you flip flop, vote hop, and bandwagon AGAIN.

You happily agree with the BMI lynch a good portion of the day

but only jump off of it, to OMGUS vote Gob. You then support BMI's notion to bandwagon Gob..oh how quickly you change your mind for little reason about BMI. Also note, that Elvis thought you were scummy as well and votes you yesterday for your flip flop. When Elvis and I vote, you then decide to FoS me, in an attempt to discredit me. Then after agreeing with BM, you come back as the day closes with "both BM and Sierra are good lynches and you would support both"...AGAIN, both are the leading bandwagons. I also find it humerous that you had no previous suspicion of Sierra before that.

Elvis puts a lot of pressure on you yesterday.

And he comes up dead today.

I think a Gob kill would be too obvious, so you have been popping off players who attack you the previous day.

Why hasnt Rice been scum hunting? Why does he always agree with whatever the town is thinking at that moment, without providing content of his own? He is not trying to make waves and does not appear to have an opinion his own. No doubt, this vote will cause him to vote me for no reason..

vote rice.

[curiouskarmadog]

he feels threatened.

[curiouskarmadog]

what

the

fuck?

[curiouskarmadog]

ahhh, SA is a BM alt...

so threatened he had to develop a alt to handle my mere presence.

[curiouskarmadog]

I see what you are saying, but I personally am not getting the scum vibe off Pop, between the two (rice and Pop)..Rice has scummy vibes in spades.

[curiouskarmadog]

can we hang scum now...or are we going to do another round of jokes?

[curiouskarmadog]

Sierra is town. BMII also feels town. Gobo also feels town.
I can see Rice as scum.

I agree with this statement....Pop, why do you feel that Rice could be scum?

[curiouskarmadog]

waiting for Ala's reread I guess.

[curiouskarmadog]

thanks, BM

[curiouskarmadog]

happy birthday CKD!

Seconded.

thank you, you still got my vote though.

[curiouskarmadog]

no kills last night? no vig/sk? no Mafia? no nothing...

farside any reason you choice to attack Sierra? the deadline was approaching...Sierra had said he was going to hammer, no sure I understand your post before the lynch.

going to reread yesterday...

[curiouskarmadog]

no kills last night? no vig/sk? no Mafia? no nothing...

What is the point of this post? Surely you understand how the night phase works.....

there was more to that post than that quote...I found it interesting...especially after having two kills a night.

[curiouskarmadog]

are you role fishing camn?

[curiouskarmadog]

NO. I think you just posted nothing for the sake of posting.

The more I look at your posts.. your so-called "contributions", the more I see that you really have posted nothing this whole game. A couple good battles with BM.. but that is old stuff.

So I wonder. What was so interesting?

c

well, the lack of kills confirm some power roles...to say anymore, means to talk about roles..

and camn, funny you mention contributions...you feel your one line comments the entire game are contributions? Have you reread yet the game camn?

[curiouskarmadog]

OMFG, camn, are you seriously going to attack my voting patterns? Why do I have a feeling you are doing this because you dont want people to reveiw your voting habits?...care to comment on your votes before I post your record?

you know what else I find interesting..you attack me once I ask farside a question..why is that?

[curiouskarmadog]

nice, throw the label OMGUS on it, but completely avoid the question. Do you have anything to say about YOUR voting pattern before I post them? DO NOT AVOID THE QUESTION AGAIN PLEASE. I call you out for role fishing, and then you turn that around on me too.

I ask farside a question, and then you attack me. Care to address why?..last chance to get it in now.

farside, if you are out there, interested on what you have to say about this too.

[curiouskarmadog]

Sierra, how can my “case” be OMGUS when I haven’t even put a case out there yet. It is long, please read.

OK, here is my case, originally it was going to be on farside, but I think camn needs to be added. Here is why I think camn (and farside are scum)..I advise as with all cases please fact check. Also, I am going to have to claim, I think a full claim, might clear me, but it might expose other power roles. I don’t think a full claim is wise..but if it is needed I will do it.

1.) Camn's case is mostly based on voting pattern in 1034 was incomplete. He states:

not a single vote for anyone Who DOESN'T end up dead, and Town.
We all make mistakes.. but EVERYONE you have suspected has ended up Town.

This statement is a complete lie.

IN post 50, I vote Spring, who as we all know flipped scum. Why did you leave this out camn? Why did you not mention that? What was the point of lying? Is lying pro-town?

2.) so I went back to see why camn lied about this vote of mine..and I found this.

Camn's VERY NEXT post after my vote of springscum was post 59:

I have always loved a little battle, even if it's by proxy. I side with the underdog, BM

Unvote, Vote: curiouskarmadog

Yeah!

Any reason you felt it was important to vote me after I voted for spring?
So all of the sudden camn finds his vote on me?..Right after I vote for scum.

Also interestingly enough post 60 is farside, directly after camn. farside also commends my lurker votes...yet, she doesnt say this after my first lurker vote, just after my srping vote.

Not sure where the CKD votes are coming from. Of course I don't usually see CKD this talkative, but that isn't really a tell. CO certainly came on quickly to do a OMGUS vote against CKD. My vote stands till I hear more from him.

3.) Camn attacks me for being on the Rice and musher lynches..yet he completely leaves out the following.

_{with 10 alive, 6 will lynch before deadline}
˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚
¬Riceballtail:

6

:goborage, curiouskarmadog, farside22,

camn

, Alabaska J, Sierra
curiouskarmadog:

1

:BattleMageII
goborage:

1

:Riceballtail

No Lynch:

none

not voting:

2

:killa seven, populartajo

with 16 alive, 9 will lynch before deadline

˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚˚

¬

Musher333:

6

:Xtoxm, My Milked Eek,

camn

, Riceballtail, Sierra, elvis_knits,
Riceballtail:

4

:ChaosOmega, goborage, curiouskarmadog, Musher333
Xtoxm:

4

:farside22, Anatole Kuragin, Battle Mage, populartajo
camn:

1

:Coron

No Lynch:

none

Why am I scummy for being on these lynches, but you are not? I also note, you are not attacking farside for being on these lynches. Why am I scummy for being on these lynches, but you completely overlook farside? It should also be noted that farside was on the BM lynch, but jumped off about 48-72 hours before deadline…nice.


4.) Camn keeps avoiding questions. Why would someone who is supposed to be pro-town avoid questions? I have asked him several times now to answer questions. He does not want to comment on his patterns or on farside interesting.

5.) he has blatantly been role fishing today…once I ask him about it, he flips it around to say I was (yawn)

6.) Now for my claim. I am the townie roleblocker. Last night after farside’s comment about the Sierra’s hammer yesterday I decided to block farside. I thought farside was scummy attacking Sierra’s hammer BEFORE we knew Rice’s alignement. And look there was no kill last night. AS SOON as I ask a question about farside, camn goes on the attack?...camn has acknowledged my question about why he attacked after my farside side question, but he wants me to go first. He has been rolefishing today, and look he finally got a fucking bite..He has forced me to claim. He wanted to know why farside’s kill did not go through…so he attacks the first person that asked her a question and forces them to claim. ANSWER THE QUESTION NOW, why did you attack me only after I ask farside a question?

7.) Finally, he says I am scummy for not contributing. IF that is true, please read camn in a vacuum and see who really isn’t contributing. Don’t take my word for it..compare us side by side.

This is not a OMGUS case…fact check him if you want.

Vote camn.

[curiouskarmadog]

pop did you read my case? what part do you not agree with.

no time at the moment, need to read camn retort.

[curiouskarmadog]

also Pop. you said you were going to provide reasons later..I would like to hear them.

Interesting comments from Farside..your thoughts on my case again camn (and you?)..I blocked you last night..and there was no mafia kill, thoughts?

[curiouskarmadog]

wow.
Does it really take that long to fabricate a list of who you "blocked" this game, CKD?
You think just choosing all dead people will seem too suspect?

since I cant comment on ongoing games...why dont you actually act like you scum hunt for a moment and meta me..

when I say I havent had time to post(to post a sentence or two)..I havent had time to post.

the quick of it...

Night 1, I RBed BM1
Night 2, I RBed K7
Night 3, I Rbed farside.

will respond to your "retort" or lack thereof when I can.

[curiouskarmadog]

Meta is for sissies.
You have blown your cover in this game, and meta is not required.

For the record, I believe you, kind of. I think you are a MAFIA roleblocker, and you totally blocked all those people. BUT You have been hunting Power Roles, and this "claim" of yours is clever. You can ALMOST look like you are scumhunting, but you aren't

So, explain this.

Doing a QUICK search through your posts for Coron OR Killa7's name.... I come up with NO references. Now, I could have missed it.. but if you thought K7 was scum... why did you simply NEVER mention him at all? Is this your idea of scumhunting?

Of course.. we all know about your pre-existing biz with BM.. . but one question:
Why would you block him?! He claimed Cop! With EVERYONE to pick from.. you pick the claimed COP? Why not Rice? You voted Him!

Now Farside... are you claiming you were FRESHLY suspicious of them as of LAST POST LAST NIGHT? Because before today, you never did any scumhunting against farside, either. a couple random comments back and forth.. and your initial random vote.
So .. are you saying it was a BRAND NEW suspicion?

I SAY that you, as Mafia, thought that they had power roles. BM even claimed! But you thought they had power roles, so you AVOIDED talking about them and quietly blocked them, so that just in case they were ever killed, we couldn't pin it on you.

Really nice try with your falseclaim, though. I almost believed.

this is just another reason why camn is scum and not actively scum hunting...ask yourself why camn is not scum hunting.

first he attacks me for not posting in here, but doesnt check to see if I havent been posting or posting that I am behind across the board...when I call him for that, he says "meta are for sissies".Camn are you saying you never meta?

Then he implies that I would claim I targetted all dead people ...when I tell him who I targetted he attacks me anyway...you would have attacked me no matter what I said to try to help your "case".

I blocked BM because I didnt believe him. I dont think I have ever seen BM claim cop on day 1 the way he did. I also wanted to see if he claimed to have made an investigation and received a result, even though I RBed him. I was following a hunch...and look I was right. I blocked K7, because I was trying to find the killer...and something about his play on Day 2 stuck out at me. I blocked farside, because of what she said yesterday after Sierra hammered...it felt to me that she was already attacking Sierra BEFORE we knew the alignement of Rice...this bothered me.

Now that I have stopped the kill, camn is attacking me. Nice.

Also camn keeps avoiding questions..why would someone protwon do this? He expects me to answer all of his questions, but avoids mine.

Camn, why after I voted spring did you vote me? It was not a random vote...I was hunting early lurkers..and look who was lurking scum. now answer the question, why did you vote me with your very next post after I voted Spring. DO NOT AVOID AGAIN!

Why did you attack me after I asked farside a question? Now that you know I targetted her and stopped a kill, you know why I was asking her questions. DO NOT AVOID THE QUESTION AGAIN.

How is not answering questions protown? DO NOT AVOID THIS QUESTION AGAIN.

and now, you have forced me to claim who I blocked...you continue to role fish (now you know who I blocked, so mafia has tons of information now)but push that I am role fishing, when you are the one who is guilty of it.

[curiouskarmadog]

no time to answer question..will try to address tonight or tomorrow.

quick of it..

camn, I had to check Pm to see who i blocked. I remember it wasnt important but forgot why(I forgot we even had a night 0 here)..I blocked Xtomx Night 0. I am a liar huh? This is why you are role fishing...K7 and farside (if they have a night action) are in a position to confirm or deny if they have been blocked. but this lets you know that they have a night ability. ask yourself this camn..if I am lying...why havent farside or K7 voted me yet based on that I am lying about my role? because they either dont have a power role or they know I am telling the truth....by you keep calling me a liar, you are forcing them to claim too...IF I HANG TODAY, please please please, hold camn to the fire on this TOMORROW.

will retort to the rest when I have time...

BM, please read his posts...he wants to say that I am not contributing, but look at his post in comparsion of my...he just needed more fluff to add to his fluff case. What about my case BM your thoughts? Your thoughts on camn's case about me?

also Pop, still waiting on your reasons...how long you plan on waiting..if you are busy (and God I understand that) you need to let us know you are busy...I also note Alabaska J fence sitting on camn and myself..there are far too many people sitting around waiting to see who comes out on top...I want opinion sooner than later. Gob? Sierra?

farside, post 1018 took me by surprise. I felt like it was an uncalled for attack on Sierra for his hammer of Rice (who you were also voting). You said that the hammer was quick, but it was indeed NOT quick. Sierra gave PLENTY of warning and you didnt say anything when he posted his (I will hammer in 8 hours) post..you only commented after he hammered...I found that scummy, almost like you were setting up for an attack today without knowing Rice's alignment. So (my orginal question before camn deflected it for you still stands)..why did you attack Sierra yesterday for the hammer?..why did you comment when he was giving warning about the hammer?

also interested in camn's thoughts on this (if he hasnt addressed it already).

[curiouskarmadog]

camn, "you will not be informed"??? What the fuck do you think happens when a cop/tracker doesnt get a result..it is obvious...what about when a vig's kill doesnt go through?..quit denying that you are role fishing..because you are.

AND QUIT AVOIDING QUESTIONS

farside, post 1018 took me by surprise. I felt like it was an uncalled for attack on Sierra for his hammer of Rice (who you were also voting). You said that the hammer was quick, but it was indeed NOT quick. Sierra gave PLENTY of warning and you didnt say anything when he posted his (I will hammer in 8 hours) post..you only commented after he hammered...I found that scummy, almost like you were setting up for an attack today without knowing Rice's alignment. So (my orginal question before camn deflected it for you still stands)..why did you attack Sierra yesterday for the hammer?..why did you comment when he was giving warning about the hammer?

also interested in camn's thoughts on this (if he hasnt addressed it already).

again, you deflect and dont acknowledge farside...

[curiouskarmadog]

and farside, go ahead and put your vote on me..I know you will anyway..

I am pretty sure you and camn are scum together. Camn keeps deflecting heat off you and is completely ignoring you and my question in regards to you. there is no reason for him to do that.

I blocked you and there was no kill. you are either the vig, scum, or both the scum and vig targetted the hider.

[curiouskarmadog]

EBWOP.. sorry for the double!

I REALLY can't get off your case!

So.. there was only ONE kill Night2, right?

WHY DIDN'T YOU JUMP ALL OVER KILLER7????

Did it not even CROSS YOUR MIND that you might have blocked scum....resulting in a single kill?
Because you failed to even MENTION his name. No Hunting. No Questions. NOTHING. You must have been CONVINCED he was a pro-town Vig to ignore him THAT hard!

What is different between that and your case against farside?

wow camn really?

like most of your case, this two is not investigated..you are pulling for absolutely anything to push your bullshit case.

- there were two kills night 2...or maybe since you are scum, there was only one townie kill, so I understand how you could mess that up

- I am not speculating..YOU said that people would be told "You will not be Informed" if you are blocked. So how would they know anything?" I was telling you why (again) you were incorrect.

-

again you are directly avoiding all questions in regard to farside.

I would like everyone to comment on camn NOW

...especially his last couple posts...why is he avoiding my direct questions about farside..why is he making up excuses that I am scum and are false or just simply lies.

[curiouskarmadog]

no kills last night? no vig/sk? no Mafia? no nothing...

farside any reason you choice to attack Sierra? the deadline was approaching...Sierra had said he was going to hammer, no sure I understand your post before the lynch.

going to reread yesterday...

+1 scum point for.............
"going to reread yesterday" and no comments after all. Only rereads camn. What else did you find on your reread CKD?

are you role fishing camn?

What kind of townie asks this question? I mean, whats the point?
And I sincerely think that Rice is very sincere with his attacks. The N0 situation is also interesting to notice. Anyways if CKD flips up town we lynch Rice tomorrow.
Kay?

Pop, pay attention to the game please....once you read and have a firm hold on the game, come back and post...

so your reasons that I am scum are what again? And you want to lynch Rice (town) tomorrow when I flip town? Are you fucking serious? You are BWing me for no reason, then you are setting up for a lynch tomorrow...except you have forgotten that Rice has already been hung and flipped (town).

I am going to assume you meant camn..

[curiouskarmadog]

Getting Married?

Congratulations!

re: farside... I have no opinion on anyone else until you are dead.
And there you go speculating about roles again!


c

How am I specualting roles? Whos getting married?
Also I note that CKD did miss my comment about not paying attention and the whole I had a baby and RL got hectic for a bit comment.

I understand being busy...but one of Seirra's warning post was on the same page where you said it was quick.

[curiouskarmadog]

Getting Married?

Congratulations!

re: farside... I have no opinion on anyone else until you are dead.
And there you go speculating about roles again!


c

How am I specualting roles? Whos getting married?
Also I note that CKD did miss my comment about not paying attention and the whole I had a baby and RL got hectic for a bit comment.

I understand being busy...but one of Seirra's warning post was on the same page where you said it was quick.

I really didn't notice, but if that looks scummy then keep harping on it. Mostly if bugged me that not everyone weighed in, but like I said this game has been low on my priority list of games and I'm attempting to make up for it.

not "harping" on it..you asked I told...and camn asked why I RBed you...you two cant ask me questions, then attack me for answering them. I am not completely convinced you are scum...however, camn keeps deflecting my question about you and is completely avoiding commenting on your actions yesterday...i want to know why.

your thoughts on camn's recent attacks of me this past 2 pages??

[curiouskarmadog]

stretching or lying..

back tracking..

lack of scum hunting (or tunnel visioning)...

avoiding direct questions...

refusing to acknowledge a scummy action.

you attacked me when I voted for spring..and I dropped the subject.

I will not let you bully me again..quite deflecting.

answer me this then...how is not submitting your opinion on farside's post yesterday protown? I think you dont want to state your opinion so you dont have to back track (again) on it tomorrow when I flip town roleblocker..leaves you open to attack farside (if she is not your scum buddy) tomorrow, because you never stated your opinion today..I can see it now..."Sorry CKD, I guess you were telling the truth, maybe you had a point about farside."..

STATE YOUR OPINION NOW/TODAY...no one is going to forget you want me hung..

shit, even after you state your opinion (even if your opinion is " i dont think farside was scummy for her statement at the end of the day") you can reinstate you desire to lynch me.

[curiouskarmadog]

what answers have I not provided to camn, farside.

I thought she was scummy until BM1 flipped town....looking back though she had her vote Rice at the end of that day.

I dont think you see my point farside...what happens tomorrow after i flip town RB and she has never stated her opinion on you..

think about, there was no kill, I have stated I RBed you last night, I flip town, where do you think her attack will go tomorrow? If she comments that she feels you are town today and your actions are NOT scummy, then it would be hard for her to back track (again) tomorrow....

I want her to comment on you today...the value of this wont be realized until tomorrow, especially if I am lynched.

see my point?

[curiouskarmadog]

I have no opinion on Farside at this time. I read the comment in Twilight last night as null.

Did you think RBT was scum Day 1?

no.

[curiouskarmadog]

I have no opinion on Farside at this time. I read the comment in Twilight last night as null.

Did you think RBT was scum Day 1?

no.

actually "no" not most of the day..most of the day I thought Musher was scum, but when Rice through out the big net, but didnt push I case, thought struck me as scummy.

so i guess the answer to your question is yes..by the end of the day I did think Rice was scummy...

[curiouskarmadog]

threw not through

[curiouskarmadog]

dont fret, you wont have to hammer me

ugh, well this town is being lead by a fool...dont let me die in vain, please use my death to make those responsible pay tomorrow...for the choice should be painfully obviously.

unvote, vote CKD.

cant say I told you so....because I will be dead.

[curiouskarmadog]

great job Korts....

I was pretty over confident coming out of N3, even with my entire team being replaced. At one point I was the only one on my team who was posting, which really sucked ass. At any rate, I still thought we pretty much had the game in the bag until Day 4....I figured camn was probably a cop or a tracker, because his tunnel visioned attack at one point didnt even make sense...I screwed my claim up, which didnt help my cause at all. After I flipped scum, it was pretty obvious that Ala was scum...but Korts replaced in and did a bang up job. All scum owe their win to Korts.

Des, I was feeling your pain bud. camn needs to learn to not tunnel vision so much. Because he got a result about me, HE got a little over confident and the town listened to him too much (based on him being right about me).

[curiouskarmadog]

whew got over my epic fail in not immediately bussing ckd day four which caused me to be lynched. Sorry about making you sweat it out there Korts

yeah you should have jumped on early and put me out of my misery.

[curiouskarmadog]

and yes, camn is a she....

[curiouskarmadog]

And as far as BM making a "wise choice"..... It worked out for scum, but I don't really see replacing out as valid strategy. That would make me insane.

I didnt have the time to read enough to give myself an adequate defence. I wasn't really anticipating Alabaska being killed off before me, and as you can now probably see, my endgame play as scum needs work...

I probably should have insisted you were killed earlier. But, i stood by the whole 'brotherly' thing from when i was town.

BM

yeah if I recall right, BM didnt want you killed because he thought you would listen to him...but the next day he disappeared and camn was at the wheel. matter of fact (I think)..I wanted to off you the night you tracked me...at any rate, we still won, but I think it could have been smoother.

[curiouskarmadog]

yeah, thanks for the game Adel