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KittyTacky pinging me as newbie scum here. Not sure if the current votes are RVS but VOTE: KittyTacky

[T3]

KittyTacky pinging me as newbie scum here. Not sure if the current votes are RVS but VOTE: KittyTacky

Congrats on making a non random vote! Care to share with the class your reasoning? I don't think scum will be handing us a silver platter wrong thread post this game, so you'll have to try harder on this one if town~

Mostly the "I'm nervous", then when asked about it the tone felt too defensive for a town riding around RVS.

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Mostly

And the other lesser reason?

I meant like "mostly thei'm nervous" lesser reason as the defensive tone.

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Vasex is an initial tr right now, not sure about anyone else.

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VOTE: Cabd

Asking to revert from RVS faster, doesh't doing something for it self, classic.

pJudging by STD vote above, it sounds like you decided something was the case and then tried to justify it.

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11 votes is a lot of votes.

I should help. Idle votes are the mafia's handiwork right?

VOTE: Vote: T3

If my reads aren't serious there should be a problem.

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Exactly what have I done except say an early read?

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VOTE: T3

already complaining about being caught early in the pit fall

we should throw in the cement

I'm not complaining. Etine voted me for an invalid reason and then DeathNote and Windows also vote me without explanation.

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I.. didn't ask why. I responded to something another player said with a valid reason.

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VOTE: Gypyx

First posters are scum.

You missed. Unless that was intentional?
VOTE: kittytacky

Classic scum play of putting the focus on mechanics (ie gypx being a mod and not a player) over semantics. VOTE: NDMath

I don't think this is scum indicative based on his meta. The last game we played together was the equivalent of a mini theme game (I was scum, he was town) and he was hyper focused on the mechnics and won the game for town.

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It us generaly scum indicitave, but not for this player.
XP is painful to read but I think town.

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21 People is a lot that's about hmmm 6 scum right? I have about 4 scumreads my odds R good

The tone of this post feels somewhat faked. Like the "hmmmm" didn't really make sense when I said it out loud to myself.

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I have about 4 scumreads

who

(T3, Nero Cain, Rathe, deep-city-lights)

Deep-city-lights weakest of the bunch

You scumread DCL after 3 RVS posts?
VOTE: Etine

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KittyTacky, do you have any other reads?

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what's not normal about it? i'll probably target someone i townread tonight with it for info

like maybe Etine if i can't get him voted out

Framer is explicitly non normal according to the wiki page. All enchant is doong is asking mechanics questions.

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quick to come to their defense aren't you

VOTE: T3

i have a mechanics question for you: how many wolves are usually in a neighbourhood of 4?

I was saying that Enchat askin mechanics questions and not ding anything else is scum indicative.

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I don't know whata neighborhood is.

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Anya makes a very good point ref T3, he has now defended two players (defended NDMath against my vote earlier)

I gave him benefit of the doubt over NDMath as he was bringing relevant meta info to the table, but I am more dubious of his defence of enchant

That wasn't meat to defend enchant.

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YEAH WELL AT LEAST I HAVE SOME INSTEAD OF HIDING AND ACTING ALL STUCK UP IN THE PROCESS

Erm...

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When questioned about a small thing Etine gets very defensive. Marky Mark and Nero are some trs right now.

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if nero is town vasex is probably mafia

Explain? Vasex was an initial tr but I haven't seen much of him since.

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STD has made zero impression on me at all.
I'll look at his ISO.

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Reads:
Hard town: Marky Mark, Rathe
Town: Nero Cain
Lean town: NDMath, WindowsXP, dcl, Anya, DeathNote
Null: Vasex, Kerset, samantha, STD, DGB, Dunnstral, Arte, Andres
Lean scum: Enchant, Cabd
Scum: KittyTacky, Etine

Most of my null reads are basically people who haven't donr anything.

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Cabd feels like a lot of noise but no content. Enchant is townreading one of my scumreads and I didn't like the framer interaction.

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To see whenever he is self-aware about his situation. I don't find him scummy - he is just awkward.

Not liking how Kitty is overly focused on the Vasex interaction.

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To see whenever he is self-aware about his situation. I don't find him scummy - he is just awkward.

Not liking how Kitty is overly focused on the Vasex interaction.

Not sure why that quoted.

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why would you claim not just a power role, not just a doctor, but a doctor variant that is particularly bad to claim @ 6/11 votes?

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I thought I was voting Etine. VOTE: Etine
I tred Vasex because we arrived at a similar conclusion about kitty at the same time.

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STD moved up to lean town for me, seems interactive.

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I fail to see how that makes Andres scum and not town defending slots.

Also guys miller is not a normal role

Miller is normal.

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Kitty's posts just don't read well. He feels the need to clarify that it will be a mislim if we vote him. That should be obvious if Kitty is town.

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Etine's claim was terrible. I just don't see an actual lazy babysitter claiming lazy babysitter at e-5.

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The qest to find a post from me without a typo...

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I wantto hear more from DGB and NDMath. Not about anything in particular, just the general state of the game.

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Dunn vs STD giving me tvt vibes.

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Cabd is only a scum lean for me, I 'm keeping my vote where it is.

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VOTE: Kitty

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I don't particularly like how kerset hopped on the Kitty wagon but I feel like the specific reasoning would only besomething Kerset would say in the scum chat.

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I was about to say that I'm putting Kitty at E-1

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Any person who will put Kitty on E-1 will be confirmed town.

SLIP

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PUTTING SOMEONE AT E1 MAKES SOMEONE CONFIRMED TOWN IF THEY ARE SCUM
BUT HOW WOULD YOU KNOW KITTY IS SCUM IF YOU ARE NOT HIS PARTNER

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Enchant and Kitty are confirmed scum.

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Kitty is getting hammered anyways. And then you tomorrow.

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Everyone's older than me

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OMG I HAVE A CAKE NEXT TO MY NAME

WORSHIP ME

by unvoting kitty and going after the real scum here, Cabd

Did you miss the part when Enchant scumslipped?

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I'm stil voting this because of the slip.

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Enchan. Literally. Scumslipped. With. Kitty.

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i read ur iso enchant n i think u r probably town

enchant literally scumslipped

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Anya, thoughts on the slip?

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but even if Kitty gets lynched today b/c its the EZ thing to do and most ppl just do the ez thing-ending the day with a lurking cabd, andre and arte seems like a bad waste of time. make them use their words.

But if kitty is scum we get Enchant confirmed scum and STD likely scum, Cabd and Etine likely town.

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ugh you know what
vote kitty
if kitty isn't scum vote me tomorrow i'm just a 1 shot bulletproof and after everyone RANDOLY scumreading it's not like mafia will ever try to kill me

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vote enchant to see if there is a kitty enchant conspiracy without losing a possible 1 shot cop
i don't even know why i claimed i guess i was just annoyed that people were't voting kitty

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VOTE: Enchant

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Vote enchant to see if there is some grand conspiracy.

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If yes then we know kitty is scum.

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Voting Enchant gives us info, mor than anyone else. The entire wagon against me is "possibly" claimingtraitor even though I don't know why people think there is a traitor in the setup.

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So we are eliminating a LHF slot over a scumslip. Great.

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I'm not a bulletproof. I'm another pr. I was quite confident Kitty and Enchant were both scum and my specific power role has reason to question Kitty's claim.
I thought Ktty was going to be limed and be mafia, so I wanted to eliminate all chances of scum going for me.

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I'm a night 1 and night2 Cop. I highly doubt there is another 1 shot cop.

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Because Enchant scumslipped with Kitty.

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ok but your point of view should be kitty confirmed mafia with enchant tacked on the side

I don't understand voting the attachment

People seemed to doubt the slip, so if Enchant flips scum Kitty will be conirmed scum to everyone else.

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Yea I took the time to re-read much of this thread and Enchant is indeed... slipping.

VOTE: Enchant

Another slip.

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I am doubling down on T3 here - the 180 on the claim when pressured to reveal his thought process seems fishy to me, and I've literally seen scum pull this one before (Flavour Leaf in Bending).

Also, if legit, why would he reveal his gate and give scum free info rather than just saying that he is some sort of cop?

Because I can only use night 1 and night 2.

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Enchant and kitty literally scumslipped. In my mind tey are almost certainly partners.

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Enchant does something that could possibly be classified as a slip. It implicates Kitty. Then kitty says: Yeah Enchant slipped.
Kitty effectively scumclaimed with that.

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Townys entrance from Ana. I would rather not vote LHF slots day1 right now.

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Andres has basically just been pointing out stuff mechanical.. moving to lean scum.

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The thought of limming Andres just got less appealing. Then again, it could be a bus from what we saw with Kitty voting Enchant.

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I'm not voting Cabd today because of Kitty/Cabd interactions, i just don't see that being a bus.

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I shouldn't have fakeclaimed. At this point I would want Enchant so I will leave my vote there. I would loike to hear more from Anya at this point.

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VOTE: deep-city-lights

Explajn?

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Cabd is hard town.

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Cabd is hard town.

Hard? Can you ellaborate

Kitty and Enchant are confirmed scum to me.
Now look at the vc.

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I think I will check one of the lower postcount slots like Andres or dunn

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That Vasex Enchant interaction is one of the most innane conversations I've ever heard in mafia.

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DGB is null right now based on the way the wagons have formed.
If Emnchantis scum then kitty is also scum, and everyone seems to wantkitty and I to survive night 1.

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I'd take Ana as a compromise lim if we were close to deadline, as things currently stand

Anybody else is ready to vote Anastasia?

DDepends. I do think the password case against her is pretty good.

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omg a50 is an insane cop
Anyways, the previous slot was pretty towny.

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Why would mafia have a cop?

Only. reason I can see is multiball.

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Let me rephrase. I actually don’t horribly disagree that Kerset is Town. I think Marky Mark is getting too much credit here, but okay fine maybe. And their Tier 2 is all about giving some slots time which okay fine. I just wish they would have more clearly said those two players however most likely can’t co-exist in the same game. Or something of the sort. And I really SR Nero Cain so that one boggles the mind.

Why an sr on nero?

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Etine's claim was bad but with the wagon on her maes me think she is town.

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I hard tr Vasex for pushing likely scum fmpov. So unless I've been pocketed I'm not voting this.

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VOTE: Vasex

oop
VOTE: vasex

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T3 scum

so... that isn't a scumclaim?
.wat.

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UNVOTE: vasex
e-3

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uh
so
ou're commiting suicide by elimination
why?

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I hard tr Vasex for pushing likely scum fmpov. So unless I've been pocketed I'm not voting this.

VOTE: Vasex

Its fine T3! Just follow his lead then.

VOTE: Vasex

oop
VOTE: vasex

UNVOTE: vasex
e-3

T3 can you please articulate the thought process behind you going from Town!Vasex to voting him to unvoting him in such a short window? I just don't see how this makes any sense for you as either alignment

Vasex was a townread.
I see the self vote.
I think it is a scumclaim.
It's not a scumclaim.

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What happened to the cop claims surviving night 1 so I can actually give you a check?

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I thought vasex claimed scum with the self vote.

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VOTE: T3

T3, explain why you want townreads to die.

I don't. I thougt Vasex claimed scum.

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guys, i maybe found something
does anybody before t3 said that Etine is a girl? maybe Etine himself/herself?

Etine's claim was bad but with the wagon on her maes me think she is town.

It is said in the profile of Etine: Pronoune: He

Tha was just me misreading.

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VOTE: Andres

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Makes sense. The bulletpropf claim wasstupid and looking back on it didn't make sense.

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T3, maybe say smth about people who vote you or all players.
And maybe vote cabd?
Why didnt you vote Enchant btw?

I'm more concerned with te people voting Cabd.

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No. At least wait for my check so we get a confirmed player later.

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That bus.