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VOTE: Nero Cain

Your avatar is dancing too well to that song. Suspicious.

There can be only one without an avatar. VOTE: hugsandchocolate

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Nah dwelee is town.

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Titus and nero are also town.

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osuka is town.

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peta I have no idea about.

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idk why but Rathe feels different to the two towngames I played with him but that could be a function of me being scum iiin both games.

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I like osuka as town. His inconsistencies are unlikely to be scummy as scum would likely just pick one side or the other.

@T3, How is Rathe different?

Kind of his tone seems different. Not anything to vote over.

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VOTE: petapan

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I'm not understanding why people are saying Nero Cain is town

Do you think he is not?

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t4 why do you refuse to use a profile pic

it makes you feel lifeless and dead i tried upgrading your version number but you're still the same

Some day.... maybe.

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VFP had a similar opening line to summer meet, where they were scum.

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like, I don't really understand why you'd join a game with the intention to not play unless you landed scum and lurking/coasting helps your faction.

It was more of a joke at Osuka. He doesn't like me saying that.
If you gave me more than 8 minutes to read the game that would be useful.

But I have now.
And I still don't understand how Dwlee is the leading wagon.

Your post 74 I agree with but not so much seeing anything else that seems bad.

So someone explain to me like I'm 5 why Dwlee or Peter Pan are a good choice here?

DGB: theory
Dwelee: no
peta: anyone who denies the theory is scum x10000
people: vote

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DGB: theory
Dwelee: no
peta: anyone who denies the theory is scum x10000
people: vote

I don't read it that Dwlee is scum for denying DGB's theory.
Can you point to where I'm wrong?

Dweleeis somehow scum for trying to wriggle out of a lim by fake claiming pr.

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Good, veefp is town. Rathe also is town I think, but less sure on this.

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VOTE: kyo
Can't say why because of ongoing games but that plus the reasons said above.

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idk why but Rathe feels different to the two towngames I played with him but that could be a function of me being scum iiin both games.

Good, veefp is town. Rathe also is town I think, but less sure on this.

What changed your mind on rathe?

VOTE: kyo
Can't say why because of ongoing games but that plus the reasons said above.

What reasons in particular?

Gut, ten he posted again and I thought he could b etownier.

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kyo is here but not contributing or really attempting t o do anything.

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Are there more people in the neighborhood?

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Okay, so we know this isn't some bizarre conspiracy where there isn't even a neighborhood.

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Okay, so we know this isn't some bizarre conspiracy where there isn't even a neighborhood.

Why would this be a thing?

I have no idea, that was just a random thought at the time.

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Hard lurk.

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VOTE: Nom

I think T3 and Titus are also scummy here.

you know my meta better than this

Also, VOTE: petapan

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Huh. ssbm is very scummy but I'm hesitant to lim him because of the neighborhood. Also Dragon of the West and osuka are townreads from reading the past few pages.

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It's more that a 1 town and 1 scum neighborhood sounds weird.

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Last large normal there was an s/s neighborhood.... idk at this point.

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VOTE: ssbm

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Huh. ssbm is very scummy but I'm hesitant to lim him because of the neighborhood. Also Dragon of the West and osuka are townreads from reading the past few pages.

VOTE: ssbm

What changed that made you overcome your hesitancy?

VFPs posting about the neighborhood.

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At this point my only big srs and kyo and peta.
pedit: scumslip???!?! VOTE: anya

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Wait nvm I misunderstood the wording
UNVOTE: Anya

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Imo provable lies are nai.

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nom and nero are tvt.

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votecount 1.7

Nero Cain (4) :

nomnomnom - Rathe - Petapan - Titus

Petapan (2) :

Titus - Dragon of the West

Dragon of the West (2) :

ssbm_Kyouko -Anya

Rathe (2) :

Save The Dragons - Osuka

nomnomnom (1) :

VFP

Dwlee99 (1) :

Derek12

Anya (1) :

DrippingGoofball

Dunnstral (1) :

Dwlee99

Osuka (1) :

Andresvmb

Not voting (2) :

- Dunnstral - T3

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I come back and see this vc VOTE: Rathe

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VOTE: nom
*i jhaveno idea what i'm doing*

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If I'm vig I'll vig Titus
If I'm tracker I track peta.
If I'm a protective I protect dgb.

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Searching a replacement for nomnomnom

VOTE: nomnomnom

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I read through the whole game last night, but got distracted and also my eyes glazed over reading all of this. I want to go back over the nom and VFP thing, but at first blush it reads as TvT.

VOTE: Dunnstral

There's been multiple lurkers this game, but Dunn has been active lurking the entire day posting essentially 0 content. Not crazy about Titus either, but I'm usually not in games we've played together, and the claim makes me less interested going that direction. T3 has pinged me, but he seems to be in a lot of people's town piles and we're close to deadline, so I'll table that for the time being.

VOTE: choas

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fuckin' christ i never got this much shit for a vote before why in fuck's name is t3 so protected

Hi.

Really though, me not doing much is more because of the pace of the game and not ai.

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I read through the whole game last night, but got distracted and also my eyes glazed over reading all of this. I want to go back over the nom and VFP thing, but at first blush it reads as TvT.

VOTE: Dunnstral

There's been multiple lurkers this game, but Dunn has been active lurking the entire day posting essentially 0 content. Not crazy about Titus either, but I'm usually not in games we've played together, and the claim makes me less interested going that direction. T3 has pinged me, but he seems to be in a lot of people's town piles and we're close to deadline, so I'll table that for the time being.

VOTE: choas

What about my post did you find scummy?

The point about dunn. Like it was true but you triedto paint it as scummier than it actualy was

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I'll reread dunns iso and see what I can find.

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9 posts.. in 64 pages?!

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That's hard lurking, even by my standards. VOTE: dunn

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VOTE: T3

The progression from 1583 to 1612/1614/1615 reads as forced. You scumread me for my point about Dunn, but don't know enough about his posting history to be shocked about it and vote him to push the wagon across the line. With the later posts as context, 1583 reads more like scum jumping on my wagon than town trying to sort me and making a read.

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Titus, any response to 1587? I'm more interested in the 2nd part.

In mymind he was just a low poster.

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Alright, I want to try to gauge your mindset here:

- After reading Dunn's ISO in 1612, is my 1489 less scummy, equally scummy, or more scummy?
- When you voted Dunn, was it a compromise vote to get an elimination through because he was the leading wagon, or did you scumread him from his low activity?

Mainly a compromise vote.
Less scummy, I didn't entirely get the point you were making.

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VOTE: Kyo
From pushing the neighborhood to then sheeping kyo is strange for townya.

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I'm extremely bad at reading in to the actual things people are posting so I just use my gut, especially in large games. Like I can usually say that pushes against me are not ai but people wh don't know my meta and trme are town.

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This reeks of scum not being able to infiltrate the townblock so they just call us all scum and pray we turn on each other.

Yeah but is it actually a townblock?

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VOTE: anya™

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Nah.
So Anya was saying "why is kyo claiming scum I don't trust him" and then proceeds to do nothing except sheep kyo.

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Anya says kyo claimed wolf, kyo says Anyais trolling, Anya then sheeps kyo on everything.
s/s

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@Osuka Post Dunn flip? I don't see what would make it change. I like your point on vaxkiller and I'm fine throwing that slot out the window if we have to. I still think t3 is a good wagon and I want to say there though. Here are some of my thoughts on t3 summarized:

I don't like how T3 seems to be playing both "sides" of the game here, questioning the DotW + DGB + Titus town block claim but then voting with them on Anya is super weird. I also feel like his absence in light of the claim from Anya + wagon on him is weird, like he is hoping he can just pretend to have been gone and leave his vote there and conveniently avoid the wagon along with it. I know t3's playstyle is kinda like it has been this game, but I think trying to lurk through pressure is super scummy and made even worse by the fact that he is voting a slot that claims town power role and who I believe. If we could force t3 back into the game at least to lock him into a claim that would be great.

I was asking does the majority of the game consider dotw titus and dgb a townblock.

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on top of neighbor i'm a 2-shot annoucing Voyeur

targeted peta last night

Wait I didn't see this.

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@Osuka Post Dunn flip? I don't see what would make it change. I like your point on vaxkiller and I'm fine throwing that slot out the window if we have to. I still think t3 is a good wagon and I want to say there though. Here are some of my thoughts on t3 summarized:

I don't like how T3 seems to be playing both "sides" of the game here, questioning the DotW + DGB + Titus town block claim but then voting with them on Anya is super weird. I also feel like his absence in light of the claim from Anya + wagon on him is weird, like he is hoping he can just pretend to have been gone and leave his vote there and conveniently avoid the wagon along with it. I know t3's playstyle is kinda like it has been this game, but I think trying to lurk through pressure is super scummy and made even worse by the fact that he is voting a slot that claims town power role and who I believe. If we could force t3 back into the game at least to lock him into a claim that would be great.

I was asking does the majority of the game consider dotw titus and dgb a townblock.

Vax/DGB/Titus and I think Petapan

I need to read more dotw. T3, I feel like your quieter this game, any reason why?

I'm not on on peoples town lists yet prolly, but I will be.

Mainly the pace of the game.

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Sheep me vote t3.

I highly doubt T3 will flip scum.

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In fact, from looking at his role pm I'd say the odds are just about impossible.

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Anaya didnt claim ascetic. Are you saying that we have a town roleblocker/rolestopper that hasn't come forward?

That confuses me. How can you kill and protect the same person? You said you're combined vigilante and babysitter, right?

Gypyx being Gypyx ig.

Dw is locktown on scumflip/townfip either way.

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T3 what do u say to everyone who thinks u r mafia

Tbh this game is well within my normal townrange. Look at my meta from ropgbsmod or my other completed games.

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I had combined cop mailman once. You target 1 player. That player receives both actions

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ok night 1 patapan targeted osuka

?????

didnt you just claim combined vig babysitter? did i miss something? how could you possibly know this?

cyrus=peta

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Babysitter vig is not a claim a player like cyrus makes up as scum on the spot.

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cyrus is alwyas going to be town here I think.

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Hold up.

So I don't see why babysitter vig would exist because the babysit will just protect from the vig shot. Unless it's to give weird results... to something like a follower or a voyeur. UNVOTE: anya

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Even if Anya flips scum Dw is locklocklock town save for cop etc.

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If anya is town mson then that confirmed kyo as town. We don't vote kyo today.

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Ojh wait nvm lol

VOTE: kyo

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VOTE: rathe

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So if ssbm is honest, anya is lying...

If my calculations are right, someone is lying.

Please detail your calculations.

15 players, average 4 scum.
15 - 4 = 11
11 players telling the truth
3 players lying
1 player has no idea what's going on.

There are exactly 3 people lying.
This is where it gets tricky.

I'll group players to help though.

Group A
Me
Titus
DGB
Cyrus
T3

Group B
Dwlee
Anya
Vax
SSBM
Osuka

Group C
Raithe
Dragon
West
Chaos
Andre

There's exactly 1+ scum in A+B
There's exactly 1+ scum in B+C
There's exactly 1+ scum in A+C

If you assume that the top player and second player of each group has 10 posts, times the top and second, which gives 100. There were only 17 players to start though...

So the fact it hits 100 and not 63 makes me believe that there's organised lying happening.

And who is a player that appears in the A+B and B+C groups? SSBM.
Conclusion? SSBM is lying about something, but what?

Analyzing lying...... based on postcount?

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I am scum with Rathe.

VOTE: osuka

Good to know.

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I looked through your ISO and I have 0 idea why you're voting Rathe. Why Rathe over Anya?

modgames make sense with the Anya and cyrus claims.

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I looked through your ISO and I have 0 idea why you're voting Rathe. Why Rathe over Anya?

modgames make sense with the Anya and cyrus claims.

Why do we have any reason to believe the changing no visit to no result claim when ssbm already accused anya of lying about the hood?

Anya has posted and not denied ssbm's claim, essentially confirming the neighborhood was a lie.

Why should we trust a liar?

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i'm neighbours with dwlee

sorry dwlee had to come out at one point or another

KNEW IT!

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lol

btw this lol is me denying it

lol

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VOTE: osuka

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i'm just not surprised by either anya or kyouko lying to us as town since i've seen both of them do it before.

all the push on anya feels like scum trying to take advantage of the situation. it feels too easy.

This might be scum std? I feel like in the game I played with STD as town he wasway more proactive.

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VOTE: Titus

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2 more votes!

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I.
AM.
SPEEDLIM.

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Even on an Anya scum flip Dwlee should always be town.

I've been saying that since mid yesterday.

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What if I VOTE: Andres

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Anys
is
town
i
think

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VOTE: osuka

Wait a minute.
UNVOTE: adres

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What the is T3 doing?

i have no idea

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What if we massclaim?

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17 players 2 scumflips. I think 2 mafia left.

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VOTE: T3.8

you're off your game you're getting downgraded

no u

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What if I just claim?

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Mine doesn't clear Anya.

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It's extremely powerful if I target scum.

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Will you know if you do

Yes.

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Is your role confirmable

Possibly.

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Do you have any cool results to share?

No.

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There are likely 2 mafia left 12 players. No point in me claiming it now. What I will ssy is that I crumbed it and it is 1 shot.

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how is T3.8 getting away with whatever sandbags he just threw at us about his role

THAT IS RICH COMING FROM YOU

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Okat fine.

I won't loe.

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Okat fine.

I won't loe.

Typo moment.

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Okat fine.

I won't loe.

Go on

Eh
I'm vt.
Not like anyone will ever kill me.

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I understand trying to "force" scum to night kill you but also you could just do it by being townie if you're town.

me being towny.

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Andres stop towntelling you're ruining my solve >:\

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The babysitter enabler dying really puts scum in a bad spot

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VOTE: Titanium

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Autocorrect.

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Dwlee
my meta
hi

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Tic
Tac
Toe
?

no
just
everywhere

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Sure. I'm masons with dwlee.

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t3.5 what were you thinking of fake claiming before you changed your gears?

Because I realized it was stupid.

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1-shot Macho Combined Vig Roleblocker

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I wasn't sure whether it would be and Titus [redacted].

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VOTE: Titus
Hammer coming soon™

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This has cometo a standstill....

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Gamma should check me ig?

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VOTE: anya
*then we realize that anya has been vt all along*

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Idk what I'm doing. This game has basically stopped.

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VOTE: Anya

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shh

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Not voting (10) :

T3 - Save The Dragons - ChaosOmega - Dwlee99 - Dragon of the West - Rathe - ssbm_Kyouko - Andresvmb - Titus - VFP

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STD I have no idea, CHaos probably town, Dwlee town, dotw conftown,Rathe town, ssbm idk, Andres nul town, Titus maybe town, VFP idk

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VOTE: Andres

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I'm a risk taking sheep.

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VOTE: Gamma
shep

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VOTE: andres
shep

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T3 who do you read as town rn?

UNVOTE: andres
You, Dwlee, Dotw... [racks tired brain]

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And Andres.

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Because this game has gone stagnant which mean 99.999999999999% of the time all the scum are in the townblock.

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For a while before you replaced in.

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For a while before you replaced in.

then what was the townblock at that point?

Uh...

I don't think there was one lol

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This game lol
VOTE: gemma

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Honestly I'm just coasting.
We have a set PoE. It's likely there are 2 scum left, so we have one mislim before we should lim Gamma to confirm the results.

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There's probably a traitor.

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Yes. Not_Mafia and Gypyx are the groupscum. Here, I bought you a house in the neighborhood I'm recruiting you in! Have fun!

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So something outlandish came to me last night: on D1 when people were "crumbing" did anyone threaten to vig Anya?
If there's a traitor in the game and Kyo is scum, Kyo could've interpreted the neighbor claim as the traitor letting the scum faction know who they were. If someone threatened to vig Anya, would scum use the jailkeeper to protect Anya from the kill? It would have the effect of roleblocking them which is how we've interpreted it until now but it's main goal could've been to protect

Good tinfoil.

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At this point I have no idea. Like we have a PoE and probably some more ridiculous prs. Let's just play the game.

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What if we shake things up with a massclaim?

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I was in that game but I was dead. VOTE: Titu

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I'm hard lurking this game. Consider me your personak sheep on any wagon in the poe.

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Fair. I actually just finished a game as traitor so if you want you can look at that game and se how I treat other players there vs. here.

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VOTE: titus
Andre is by far the towniest.

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I thought that because Manatee was pr she couldn't have killed, so I hard bussed for towncred. Then I would have faked an inocent result on kyo, mislim Lucifer or Zyla, mislim Titus meanwhile we're both cleared.

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??? not the wrong game.

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titus is just scum here

+1

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Oh I forgot about this game.

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Night 4 has ended... T3 has died, he was

Spoiler:

Vanilla townie

Welcome ! You are a

Vanilla Townie

You have no power other than your voice and your vote

You win if the town survives to see all of the threats to them dead, you may find the game thread here

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this game was oneof the most boring games I've played.