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[nomnomnom]

hi

VOTE: nomnomnom

are you town

yes
VOTE: T3 sheep me

[nomnomnom]

VOTE: T3

uwuuuuuuuuu is this a serious vote? is it because he's too excited to play this game?

weird initial hyperposting from him that's why

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I played with:
T3
Almost50
Gamma Emerald (don't remember their playstyle however)
cyrus (briefly, in a game I blundered)
Elsa Jay
Titus
Dunnstral (again, don't remember much)
Nero Cain
Andres
NDMath

So most of the list. I played a Large Normal before but I was scum there (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86404) and it was larger and not multiball.
I really don't like the wagon on T3. VOTE: humaneatingmonkey

What don't you like about it, and why did you vote HEM

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I played with:
T3
Almost50
Gamma Emerald (don't remember their playstyle however)
cyrus (briefly, in a game I blundered)
Elsa Jay
Titus
Dunnstral (again, don't remember much)
Nero Cain
Andres
NDMath

So most of the list. I played a Large Normal before but I was scum there (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86404) and it was larger and not multiball.
I really don't like the wagon on T3. VOTE: humaneatingmonkey

What don't you like about it, and why did you vote HEM

Because it's a rapidly-growing RVS wagon and I don't want this to become a lolhammer. HEM cast the third vote which is what "made" the wagon.

???
it takes 9 to lim and it's only 3 votes
why do growing wagons scare you

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You don't see my reason as legitimate?

[nomnomnom]

You don't see my reason as legitimate?

Nope.

Why?
His initial hyperposting pinged me especially knowing he tends to be a very low poster.

[nomnomnom]

Yes

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ok I sheep
VOTE: KittyTacky
feeling much better about T3

[nomnomnom]

when you're not experienced enough for elsa to wagon you on day 1

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I'll think about it, I like my vote on Kitty right now!

[nomnomnom]

VOTE: Elsa
Feels pretty scared this game and stiff in posting style which contrasts to the usual joyful outlook he usually has in the games I played with him where he was town.

[nomnomnom]

VOTE: Elsa
Feels pretty scared this game and stiff in posting style which contrasts to the usual joyful outlook he usually has in the games I played with him where he was town.

why so slow on the play there is two teams this time. so yes i expect hard core scum hunting this game.

I work on other things outside of mafia, I need sleep, and more importantly, this is multiball so people actually have an incentive to play here and I can't usually go with my usual reasoning that scums will largely be pretending this game, because scums actually will scumhunt here.
So I'm spending my time thinking about other ways to find scum, and honestly this is harder than I thought. I don't have much here

[nomnomnom]

pretty sure nom and hem are scum on diffent teams

Push buddy vote town?

This makes no sense but I'm willing to hear the reasoning on this one mah dood

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VOTE: Elsa
Feels pretty scared this game and stiff in posting style which contrasts to the usual joyful outlook he usually has in the games I played with him where he was town.

Genuinely when's the last time I played town with you? I'm curious.

catloaves (my first game on site) but I'm fairly sure we also played together more than that? At least I feel like that's the case.
Regardless I remember you as much more cheery and joke-y

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Ok I'm caught up. Cryus Elsa and nom are my lim pool today as of right now

Cught up gee 11 pages must take forever

ROFL
cyrus is town

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Ok I'm caught up. Cryus Elsa and nom are my lim pool today as of right now

Cught up gee 11 pages must take forever

Yeah this is scum that's intentionally being an ass to me

No no this is town cyrus fairly sure

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Nero cain with conspiracy level theories here
Why do you think I'm scum, Nero? Like, drop all these weird nonsensical partner theories and just tell me why I am scum on a baseline level.
pedit: cyrus is a force of nature none can do

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Nero cain with conspiracy level theories here
Why do you think I'm scum, Nero? Like, drop all these weird nonsensical partner theories and just tell me why I am scum on a baseline level.
pedit: cyrus is a force of nature none can do

Sometimes my conspiracy theories are right though. I'm just not a fan of your play and I hated your sheep vote onto kitty

What was wrong with it?

[nomnomnom]

I work on other things outside of mafia, I need sleep, and more importantly, this is multiball so people actually have an incentive to play here and I can't usually go with my usual reasoning that scums will largely be pretending this game, because scums actually will scumhunt here.
So I'm spending my time thinking about other ways to find scum, and honestly this is harder than I thought. I don't have much here

why don't you feel like town this game nom

I don't know monkey, what's making you doubt of my town status this game?

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Because of the setup, this feels like a game where scum would not want to be in the spotlight and at least 2 scum would be actively lurking. Icerint and Lucifer needs to post so that we can get a full picture of the game.

I feel like you're fitting the definition of an active lurker, nomnomnom.

Well what might give this impression is that there are a lot of things happening and I don't know what to make out of most of them.
It's a large AND multiball and I have trouble approaching the game with my regular approach, especially for the later reason because I've actually never played multiball and it kind of changes the nature of the game a bit.

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Truth be told I see a lot of things going in very different directions, people entertaining vastly different tangents, going in very different directions and I go "argh" and skim through most of it.
I prefer when there are simple to follow discussions lol

[nomnomnom]

Then why aren't you sharing them?

I would, if I had any clue where to start
but just so you know, if you scumread me because you find my effort lacking, remind yourself that scums technically have an interest in also scumhunting so, the fault you're perceiving here is technically NAI
But I'll give it a more solid go when I'm more rested, and after a better skim.

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You also need to avoid nks so not doing much kinda works is scums best interest, no?

I guess? Frankly I don't know much about multiball theory

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I've been reading the thread and as I said, frankly, I didn't retain much.
I'll give this a reread later.
pedit: I've been voting those people because they seemed off on interactions.
I'm bad at giving townreads quite frankly. Again, I'll re-skim the thread later.
If you're that sure I am scum feel free to vote me

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You also need to avoid nks so not doing much kinda works is scums best interest, no?

I guess? Frankly I don't know much about multiball theory

I call bullshit on this

I mean I've literally never played multiball
My first instinct when joining this game was to go on the wiki and read the multiball article to see if they had any baseline recommendations but it was quite lacking

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I just think it's really fake is all. You have the same objective as you do as any other game and that's to not get mobbed and you Also have to avoid the other teams nk and not doing anything is helpful when it comes to that. This is all just very common sense and you acting like it's not just seems really fake

it doesn't seem like that to me, honestly, at least from my perspective it feels different
how am I supposed to catch scum like I do normally if there's an eager attempt from scum to also scumhunt
that just changes so much from how I usually find scums too

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I also think things like bussing radically change in this format, if we have 2 scum teams battling against each other then bussing a partner could be synonymous with losing the game
like it's not as simple in my mind, the dynamics definitely change

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Nom how many of my games have you read?

the answer is way too many

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If has been real quiet ever since this dropped

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tfw not in the list

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I'll give this game a reread I promise
All i know is that I'm fairly sure Cyrus is scum, nero leans town, and I think kitty or elsa are good lims, rest i'm not so sure about
I wish I could say you're town but I don't have the gut that follows for it

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cyrus is town* brainfart

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All i know is that I'm fairly sure Cyrus is town, nero leans town, and I think kitty or elsa are good lims, rest i'm not so sure about

I agree with this except I'm not townreading nero - the opposite in fact, light scum read

what's got you worried about him dunn-kun uwu

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I do tend to get suspicious on people pushing such an obvious limbait as cyrus so maybe I should relook at the interaction. Gut felt some shade of nero town here.
Thank you Dunn Senpai! o(≧▽≦)o

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Why did Titus leave the Elsa wagon in favor of cyrus?

Cyrus lost all the good intent from earlier when he attacked Nero's OOG statement.

I feel like you and a few people really have the wrong approach with Cyrus. You're thinking too logically.
Cyrus is town here specifically because of what you highlighted. scum cyrus feels way less "adventurous" than this.

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Like we just finished playing Townstumps and this is basically the same thing that happened there. I was accused of "throwing an easy read" there too. It's not that, it's just that Cyrus is the kind of player that is actually fairly straightforward to read once you know which angle to approach him from, and trust me, it's not the one you're using here. Cyrus was town there and I'm fairly sure cyrus is town here as well.

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Why did Titus leave the Elsa wagon in favor of cyrus?

Cyrus lost all the good intent from earlier when he attacked Nero's OOG statement.

I feel like you and a few people really have the wrong approach with Cyrus. You're thinking too logically.
Cyrus is town here specifically because of what you highlighted. scum cyrus feels way less "adventurous" than this.

I'll submit that your read has a basis but I will almost always think logically and cyrus's stance there really pissed me off.

trust me, reading some people logically will sometimes lead you in great error
read cyrus from the perspective of someone that is actually scared to interact with townies as scum and you'll see what I mean

nom can you towntell? I'd feel much better if you're town. we agree a lot, but you lack that

feel

Towntelling is haaaaaaard

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I'll say it again: cyrus doesn't function like the vast majority of players and reading him from that angle will produce horrible results.

[nomnomnom]

I estimate myself to be a pretty garbage tier player, but if there's one thing I'm confident about, it's my ability to read players like Cyrus fairly well. Take it or leave it

[nomnomnom]

I think it's fairly obvious to anyone who has read my iso when I started townreading Cyrus

[nomnomnom]

speaking of games being over how much do I need to pay for you to change your avatar A50
I'm willing to invest

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I think Elsa vs Kitty is non-aligned

is it crazy to say that how both of them handled this almost feels like two scums from different teams that accidentally found each other
I've had this impression for a while now

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There's this complete clumsiness coming from both parties that just makes me feel this is two scums that found themselves duking it out in the middle of day 1
pedit: I haven't given this game a thorough reread if that's what you're asking me
However I feel a bit happier about a few slots from recent interactions

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Oh good I don't need to do much catchup
maybe my theory about elsa/kitty being from different scumteams is possible too
let's gooo

[nomnomnom]

Oh good I don't need to do much catchup
maybe my theory about elsa/kitty being from different scumteams is possible too
let's gooo

Please catch up nom. I need town!you here.

But i'm lazyyyyy
what's the point of re-reading the entire thread when we have a claim like this and it's likely Elsa is scum
let's flip the card and see what happens so then I can reread the thread with a good purpose yeah?

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Appearantly they are from a country that learns British English though. Not actual British.

lol

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Action Dan, you forget that it's a multi-ball. T3 could be scum trying to set himself up to be confirmed town when he could still be scum just trying to get an elim go through.

And then get nightkilled by the other scumteam?

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T3 just reads like clumsy town claiming to me tbh, I don't see T3 as an audacious scum player so I'll discount the theories where he suddenly grew a massive pair of balls overnight

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Cyrus is town monkey, damn it
I'm just assuming T3 sees the same shit as me here regarding cyrus

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How is T3 any different from you and I?
We all townread cyrus pretty hard and yet when T3 does it, it's TMI/Pocketing, why?

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Why is it a "clumsy town claim" I mean if he's a 2x neighboizor and really thinks his and Elsa's role can't co-exist then sure he's doing the town thing and cc'ing but I think it's also plenty possible that both scum teams were given neighbor izers and he's cc'ing for town cred. Don't get why you are calling it clumsy

because this is multiball and doing this is basically asking to get nightkilled by the other scumteam
It's simply a strategical bad move coming from scum no matter how you spin it and I would only expect a scum that plays in really audacious ways to pull a move like that

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Y would scum shoot a neighbor izers claim when it's not much of a threat?

Because it's pretty much confirmed town which you said was a reason why a scum player might make a similar move to what T3 is doing, to gain towncred, which is threat to scum, isn't it?

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There is no way I believe T3 makes a move like this as scum. Never.
I happen to be wrong sometimes but T3 just doesn't strike me as someone who makes yoloclaims like this as scum.

[nomnomnom]

uuuuh I thought you had a scumread on me? What happened?

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We still haven't limmed Elsa?
God damn zzzzz

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Are we really still talking about the lim
Can we please lim Elsa this is silly, it's an obvious lie and not in the quirky town way

[nomnomnom]

yaaaaaawn

[nomnomnom]

i had a talk with tony parker yesterday he asked me why i spent my time shouting at people on a roleplaying forum before giving me a wedgie and slamming a dunk

[nomnomnom]

I saw Tony Parker at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

So you're going by "humaneatingmonkey" now nerd? Haha whats up douche bag, it's Tanner from Highschool. Remember me? Me and the guys used to give you a hard time in school. Sorry you were just an easy target lol. I can see not much has changed. Remember Sarah the girl you had a crush on? Yeah we're married now. I make over 200k a year and drive a mustang GT. I guess some things never change huh loser? Nice catching up lol. Pathetic..

[nomnomnom]

scumpings from gamma

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were there any doubts

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No I meant about Elsa flipping scum
I still think you're scum from the other team Kitty. Seems to be what has happened this game phase.

[nomnomnom]

How about scum from the same team as Elsa? :O

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me "active lurking" be like

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other people: NOOO YOU CAN'T WATCH THE GAME UNFOLD YOU MUST GIVE YOUR EVERY PASSING THOUGHT AND ANALYSIS TO THE THREAD NOOO SCUMMM
me: haha elsa wagon go brrrr

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other people: NOOO YOU CAN'T WATCH THE GAME UNFOLD YOU MUST GIVE YOUR EVERY PASSING THOUGHT AND ANALYSIS TO THE THREAD NOOO SCUMMM
me: haha elsa wagon go brrrr

the problem is you weren't like this when you were town with me.

this is a large with people already doing a lot of work for me, I don't need to say much
in fact in the past I've made the mistake of talking way too much and making the thread about me in the process and that leads to serious disasters, so I've learned to not talk when people already do things for me and I just end up happy just putting my vote and things unfolding

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I read the thread.
Votes on Dunn and Cyrus are atrocious, both are obviously town here, come on.
Monkey my dood my bro I love your style but your slip on Dunn is bad, Dunn is trying to solve here and it's pretty obvious from my POV. Probably town
Gamma's pretty scummy all around from all his actions this game and only started scumreading Dunn when he realized the PoE was tightening around him.
VOTE: Gamma

While we're here, who was neighborized by T3? Maybe we should confirm that claim.

I got neighborized by T3.

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There is also absolutely no reason for Gamma to claim GS if he got a no result as town unless he specifically thinks that Kitty is some form of ascetic/untargetable, at this point it comes off as scum trying to determine what exactly blocked their attempt.

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It makes a lot of sense for scums to have a GS this game by the way, not only do you have a guilty on werewolves, you also have a guilty result on the cop that just flipped. The claim for all intents and purposes should be treated as NAI here. Focus on what Gamma has done this game and it'll be pretty obvious his actions are scum motivated.

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No my actions are clearly town motivated especially following my claim
It seems you're satisfied to run me up without thinking for a second on that though.

Okay, then make your case, show me the towniness in there because I can't see it

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I mean I've read it, and I see your actions as scum motivated but you seem to disagree, so I'm giving you a chance to show me I'm wrong
pedit: well if you're from that scum faction that would be pretty bad wouldn't it?

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VOTE: Dunnstral
I've hit the tipping point.

This is also a ridiculously scummy vote lol
Not only is it on someone that's very obviously town, it's also phrased in such a dramatic fashion that seems to come from scum.
Reads like these football players that just roll on the ground screaming at the littlest of tackles! You come off as exasperated and you have been for quite a while this game and I think this indicates scum especially when there's little in thread that could have "set you off" about dunn.

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Yes, I've read it, and it still comes off as off and scripted.
Also I've personally never mentioned you being scum with Elsa. I just think you're scummy in a vacuum!
I also think you're smart enough as scum to vary your play from game to game. And I remember a lot of your posts not being about current game subjects regardless, so I think it's fairly moot regardless.
I ain't convinced gammster

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@Gamma: can you promise me you're not flipping anti-town this time around? Cuz I really don't want to look like a jerk for the 3rd time running, but I'd also feel bad if I had let you go twice as scum and only voted you as town, so I'm too confused as to what I should do right now.

FTR, I am not voting Dunn if that's the alternative you're providing me. You can either find us another target to work on together, or you can let me make my own deductions and plays with a promise that I won't feel like switching my Avi back to that monkey arse upon your glip

very uncharacteristic post coming from you A50 :/
but I understand how you feel and there can be a lot of ego on the line when you get things wrong
still, I think gamma is scum here and we both know the vote on Dunn is extremely bad

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Also I've personally never mentioned you being scum with Elsa. I just think you're scummy in a vacuum!

Really?

Despite my little comment about the half-baked PoE earlier? Seems you do have some reason to think me scum with Elsa. So go on, show just how despicable of a scum partner you believe me to be!

That's dunn's point, not mine. And your reaction to this entire point is a big reason why I scumread you.
And it's not necessarily because you're Elsa's partner. I think the source of your frustration is that you're scum that isn't actually partnered with elsa and frustrated they're getting limmed because people read you as scum with Elsa because that wouldn't be the case. In short, scum caught for the wrong reason!
There are still other things pointing to you as scum, but I hope that answers your question
pedit: I know A50 to be a bit more confident than to basically be scared to vote people in case he gets it wrong, I know we just played Screaming together and that demoralized him quite a bit but it's still uncharacteristic

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also what about my play reads as "scripted" like omfg that's the most ridiculous thing I've seen yet

Classic LOL defense!
It's over for you gammy-kun uwu

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But you know I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here:
What's making you vote Dunn over, say, Kitty?
I mean you checked Kitty for a reason right? So what's going on with that read?

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But you know I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here:
What's making you vote Dunn over, say, Kitty?
I mean you checked Kitty for a reason right? So what's going on with that read?

I'm voting Dunn because he's more actively scum than Kitty at this moment
plus, yaknow, would rather not be having a vanity vote rn

Okay, so what's your read on Kitty?

you know what, I have a question for YOU. You've pretty steadily said I'm scummy past a certain point, but never given solid reasons as to why. I'm calling your bluff. What exactly do you think I've been doing that's scummy, and what's the underlying scum motivation behind it?

I've said it before. Your entire dayplay today has been quite scummy, you read as a bit panicky, and that GS claim was especially scummy in the way it happened.
You also have shifty stances when re-reading your iso. It doesn't feel decisive at all on a lot of slots, namely kitty.

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You're right that there were also elements in day 1 that made me think you're scum, and I've pointed it out when it happened there as well

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Regardless of any of this, your vote on Dunn is bad. All the votes on Dunn are pretty bad. I can somewhat understand HEM thinking he's a god that found a slip, but your vote and Nero's vote are just pretty bad. Dunn is obviously town to me here and has been actively sorting for a while, both yesterday and today. There's nothing that point to scum!dunn here. But you're free to make your case.
pedit: sure!
I said that because you came off as frustrated over jokes being posted and tonally speaking it feels scummy especially coming from a player like you.
That's mainly what pinged me.

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
pedit: it's okay A50, tbh I'm mostly concerned about your wellbeing because this is obviously not game related and I care about you as a person and I find games with you enjoyable, so it kinda hurts me to see you like this. Hope you feel better my dude

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It doesn't make sense because this is a multiball game and bussing your partner is seriously risky.
I'm fairly convinced Dunn is town from how he posted yesterday and his posts today. It's solvy. I refuse to consider him scum here.

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Dunn is perfectly inside his townrange here. Activity is NAI for him, but the fact that the vast majority of his posts are pro-solve I think it comes from town!dunn.

It doesn't make sense because this is a multiball game and bussing your partner is seriously risky.

I know I've said that, but from what I'm seeing now, it's obviously not the case. Notably, we just up and surrendered to the idea that scum will never bus here. How would that not be the perfect scum strategy especially if your partner is never gonna let up? Notably, he scum claimed at E-2 which means his buddies are bussing him as well.

I never said that scums never bus here, but it's a reasonable assumption they didn't intend to do it from the get go and if they bussed it's probably when Elsa's fate was sealed.
This talk doesn't matter because from my POV I'm still hunting for people who are scummy in a vacuum and I find Gamma to fit that description.

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Present it to me.
If your case is good I'll reconsider Gamma, but I'll say it again, I'm fairly sure in my Cyrus and Dunn reads at this point.
pedit: nothing is entirely provable in this game and you should know it, but I'm fairly sure on town!dunn

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I believe the GS claim too, but I have reasons to believe it doesn't come from town.
The main basis of your scumread on Dunn has to do with what you perceive to be a slip but I don't see it.
Dunn is in his townrange and I refuse to vote him, so if you want to consolidate somewhere, present your other options.

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I commented on it.
I will not vote Dunn. If your interest lies in collaborating with me, you'd better find another player to vote because I ain't joining you on Dunn. Nor on Cyrus.

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I believe the GS claim too, but I have reasons to believe it doesn't come from town.

Tell me why it doesn't come from town

Because it's a weird claim to make in this gamestate. Tell me, if you're an investigation role and you get a no result PM, is your first instinct to come in thread to out your invest target with a no result? There's no reason to think that Kitty is some form of ascetic here so why do that? It's completely weird to claim for a town member here. GS also makes sense for scums to have in a multiball game and when we know a cop has already flipped. It would be odd play coming from town so I'm more likely to believe it's a scum claim.

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It also does not explain at all why Gamma still doesn't vote Kitty early in the day here. He investigated kitty and got a no result, it's not like he got an inno on the guy, and yet he doesn't vote kitty at all and does nothing with his vote. Does that sound like a town gunsmith that is actively trying to sort his invest target because he happened to be blocked? I don't buy it.

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We also know that Elsa flipped 1-shot neighborizer which is a very weak scum PR. Do you think that we live in a game where we have all three of a 2-shot cop, even-night jk AND a 1-shot GS in the same game when we know that one of the scumteams had a ridiculously low power like that? That seems like an awful amounts of guilties with little counterplay to me, but again I'd rather not try to outguess the mod since it does seem to end quite terribly for me, but it's just something to keep in mind.

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Because it's a weird claim to make in this gamestate. Tell me, if you're an investigation role and you get a no result PM, is your first instinct to come in thread to out your invest target with a no result? There's no reason to think that Kitty is some form of ascetic here so why do that? It's completely weird to claim for a town member here. GS also makes sense for scums to have in a multiball game and when we know a cop has already flipped. It would be odd play coming from town so I'm more likely to believe it's a scum claim.

What would you think should have happened if Gamma was truly a town!GS?

I don't think he outs at all and would try to sort kitty out, which lacked heavily today.
I really think town!gamma votes kitty here at beginning of day, or even if town!gamma claims, right after his claim, if he truly thinks Kitty is still scummy despite it all, don't you think?

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If you reread his iso and put the slip you think you have on him, there's no reason to think dunn is scum here. He's actively solving. I've played with Dunn before and it gave me flashbacks on his town games. Pretty intense gut feeling that he's town.
I won't vote for Dunn either way.

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Feel free to talk to me about other slots I'm curious about how you feel about other slots, especially Kitty and the other lurkier slots in the game

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