Large Normal 235: Large Normal With No Multiball [Game Over]

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:48 pm

In post 2140, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2137, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2132, Nero Cain wrote:VOTE: mega

Claim
A little early for that, don't you think?
It's just getting a claim and moving the game along

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:49 pm

In post 2139, Nero Cain wrote:Dgb claimed 1x.

Claimed what now?

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:50 pm

He claimed he was 2 shot to me.

I am skeptical for 2 reasons:

He claimed loyal.

I am a backup Neighborizer and it does not indicate at all that I am X-shot.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:53 pm

VOTE: DGB

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:55 pm

Game just busted wide open.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:05 pm

Like, the point is that DGB is lying somewhere and that's Scummy af.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:11 pm

In post 2155, CheekyTeeky wrote:A 1-shot in a large seems weak right?

They claimed (to me) that they were 2-shot. And I said this already but I am a Backup Neighborizer with no stipulations on loyal OR x-shot.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:13 pm

In post 2159, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2157, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2155, CheekyTeeky wrote:A 1-shot in a large seems weak right?
They claimed (to me) that they were 2-shot. And I said this already but I am a Backup Neighborizer with no stipulations on loyal OR x-shot.
Wait what?!

In post 1973, LicketyQuickety wrote:There's one thing that has me questioning DGB's role. Not going to talk about it now, but I will at some point. Someone remind me when it's time to do that.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:14 pm

In post 2161, Shrek wrote:im legit confused at this point as to wtf is going on. so are they a 1 shot or a 2 shot or unlimited?

Exactly. Are they 1-shot, 2-shot, or unlimited? And are they Loyal or not?

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:15 pm

In post 2163, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ok well that makes me locktown DGB, because clearly they were saying 1x so they wouldn't be NK. So... shit.

Pretty much the worst take imaginable.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:18 pm

In post 2167, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2163, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ok well that makes me locktown DGB, because clearly they were saying 1x so they wouldn't be NK. So... shit.
yeah that's what I was thinking which is why I'm kinda pissed at LQ for fucking it up!

It doesn't mess up anything. Either DGB or I will be NKed. If I get NKed then DGB can still used their shot. Else, If DGB get's shot, they can still use their shot and I can see the results. We get another shot regardless if DGB is telling the truth.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:19 pm

I mean, it's not like DGB could have known my role...

My role contradicts his since I am neither X-shot OR Loyal. But IDK how this works in games anymore, so that might be off.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:21 pm

In post 2176, LicketyQuickety wrote:I mean, it's not like DGB could have known my role...

My role contradicts his since I am neither X-shot OR Loyal. But IDK how this works in games anymore, so that might be off.

Hers

Sorry. Don't know pronouns very well.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:21 pm

In post 2177, Nero Cain wrote:Lq just said she claimed 2x but B4 that you were claiming that dgb had shots despite claiming 1x

I mean, this is not a bad point.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:23 pm

In post 2182, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 2157, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2155, CheekyTeeky wrote:A 1-shot in a large seems weak right?
They claimed (to me) that they were 2-shot. And I said this already but I am a Backup Neighborizer with no stipulations on loyal OR x-shot.
This was dumb to out now, if they claimed 2-shot to you in PT, you would've been able to confirm tomorrow if someone else was added to PT or DGB would claim a guilty. Also you having no modifiers indicates nothing about DGBs modifiers. If DGB is town, I can easily see them claiming 1-shot so they don't get NK'd but get another investigate chance....which you've now just jeopardized

FML.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:24 pm

In post 2186, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 2163, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ok well that makes me locktown DGB, because clearly they were saying 1x so they wouldn't be NK. So... shit.
Yuuuup. So is LQ scum or dumb

DGB claimed Loyal. So how can I be Scum?

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:26 pm

In post 2191, Nero Cain wrote:Theroretical dgb could lie to fake confirm their buddy

I mean, I think I already talked about this tinfoil theory somewhere in my ISO.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:28 pm

In post 2190, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 2174, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2167, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2163, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ok well that makes me locktown DGB, because clearly they were saying 1x so they wouldn't be NK. So... shit.
yeah that's what I was thinking which is why I'm kinda pissed at LQ for fucking it up!
It doesn't mess up anything. Either DGB or I will be NKed. If I get NKed then DGB can still used their shot. Else, If DGB get's shot, they can still use their shot and I can see the results. We get another shot regardless if DGB is telling the truth.
You already said you aren't loyal, so your role (if both claims are real) is way weaker. You just neighborize someone, you won't get confirmation of them being town or scum

Doesn't matter since DGB's shot goes off either way and we can confirm or guilty one person regardless unless Scum can kill more than one person as a NK.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:29 pm

In post 2194, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2187, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2186, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 2163, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ok well that makes me locktown DGB, because clearly they were saying 1x so they wouldn't be NK. So... shit.
Yuuuup. So is LQ scum or dumb
DGB claimed Loyal. So how can I be Scum?
How can DGB be scum?

By lying about being Loyal. Which means this whole thing is some elaborate SvS with me and DGB or I am Town regardless.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:30 pm

In post 2198, CheekyTeeky wrote:LQ how can DGB be scum if you're town with the loyal modifier?

Because.. I've said this like 3? 4? times now that I DON'T have the Loyal modifier.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:33 pm

In post 2197, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2152, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 1848, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1839, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1833, Dwlee99 wrote:Are you also a checker? That isn't how NRG works on loyal.
I received no acknowledgement of my action, I thought the mod might have made a mistake, so I asked.

You remind me of scum!MathBlade casting doubt on my cop-guilty result in another game. Are you scum, Dwlee?
The mod can't tell you if your action succeeded, only if it was received.

I'm not "casting doubt" I'm getting clarification because the way you described it is not how it works. If you knew your action succeeded it goes to a hard guilty instead of a soft guilty (cause the action could have been roleblocked)
Still think this is dodgy.
Or, DGB clearly was not acting like it knew how its role worked.

DGB said that because the PT was already created (on the 7th) that they didn't know that their action went through. Then they got a result saying that their action went through. So DGB thought they had a guilty at first and then said they confirmed me as Town. Or so goes the story.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:35 pm

In post 2205, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2199, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2194, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2187, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2186, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 2163, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ok well that makes me locktown DGB, because clearly they were saying 1x so they wouldn't be NK. So... shit.
Yuuuup. So is LQ scum or dumb
DGB claimed Loyal. So how can I be Scum?
How can DGB be scum?
By lying about being Loyal. Which means this whole thing is some elaborate SvS with me and DGB or I am Town regardless.
unless DGB flips scum Disloyal Neighborizer I'm not entirely inclined to clear you off a DGB scumflip

No, because they can do the same thing without the Loyal modifier. Else, you are entering into some pretty bad tin foil theory.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:36 pm

Re: DGB claim: It resolves itself at this point.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:37 pm

In post 2208, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2204, LicketyQuickety wrote:DGB said that because the PT was already created (on the 7th) that they didn't know that their action went through. Then they got a result saying that their action went through. So DGB thought they had a guilty at first and then said they confirmed me as Town. Or so goes the story.
But that isn't how loyal works. You're not informed of if it goes through or not and for what reasons. DGB was saying the action "went through" (ie not roleblocked) but that it "failed" (loyal modifier blocked it) but loyal blocking it and roleblocks blocking it are indistinguishable.

And then they said that it worked (didn't fail).

Honestly, the whole DGB thing is super WIFOMy. It resolves itself at this point. Either DGB or I die tonight.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:38 pm

In post 2210, Gamma Emerald wrote:I just think the way you've been playing feels a little weird for conftown what with how much you've been pushing for DGB's death

That shade though.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:39 pm

In post 2213, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2211, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2208, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2204, LicketyQuickety wrote:DGB said that because the PT was already created (on the 7th) that they didn't know that their action went through. Then they got a result saying that their action went through. So DGB thought they had a guilty at first and then said they confirmed me as Town. Or so goes the story.
But that isn't how loyal works. You're not informed of if it goes through or not and for what reasons. DGB was saying the action "went through" (ie not roleblocked) but that it "failed" (loyal modifier blocked it) but loyal blocking it and roleblocks blocking it are indistinguishable.
And then they said that it worked (didn't fail).

Honestly, the whole DGB thing is super WIFOMy. It resolves itself at this point. Either DGB or I die tonight.
Okay but aren't you voting it? I'm confused.

Yeah, oops.

Resume as normal. Going back to my previous vote:

VOTE: Arc

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:43 pm

In post 2217, Shrek wrote:i hate to say it but arc is at least being proactive even if her reads are dumb and hypocritical. can we flip mega so we dont go through this same back and forth bickering that gets us nowhere? idk why theres been so much resistance against his wagon for two phases now

I don't hate flipping Mega, but I'd like them to claim first.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:45 pm

Actually, let's go here:

VOTE: Gamma

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:47 pm

In post 2220, Shrek wrote:
In post 2219, LicketyQuickety wrote:Actually, let's go here:

VOTE: Gamma
explain your reasoning pls

Look in my ISO for my reasons.

First thing was them asking questions to inflate their post count. Secondly that both me and Norweigh wanted the wagons to be T3 and Gamma, and T3 flipped Town and Norweigh died.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:49 pm

In post 2222, Gamma Emerald wrote:if I wanted to kill people who wanted to wagon me norway would not be the first pick

Why was Norweigh killed then?

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:51 pm

In post 2224, Gamma Emerald wrote:probably for being obvtown

So was I. So was Nero. So was Cheeky.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:59 pm

In post 2231, CheekyTeeky wrote:DGB might be an idea to tell us who you're targeting so if you get NK'd LQ can confirm if it worked.

That's exactly what I said before.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:09 pm

In post 2234, Nero Cain wrote:Hey lq, was there anything in the pt B4 u joined?

I honestly couldn't tell you that. IDK, post#0 says that the PT is for me and DGB.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:11 pm

In post 2240, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2237, Dwlee99 wrote:Cheeky has so many bad takes I want to scumread
Go eat some ice cream, the big boys are talking.

Honestly, I'm not really a "big boy" in this game. I kinda suck at Mafia.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:13 pm

In post 2245, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2234, Nero Cain wrote:Hey lq, was there anything in the pt B4 u joined?
I honestly couldn't tell you that. IDK, post#0 says that the PT is for me and DGB.

But Post #1 says "LicketyQuickety joins" and it's in green letters.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:16 pm

In post 2256, DrippingGoofball wrote:Now I am going to get NK'd.

That was stupid, LQ

You know, it kinda was. But given my role, I thought (at the time) your role didn't line up with mine.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:19 pm

In post 2132, Nero Cain wrote:VOTE: mega

Claim

I don't really like this actually. Rubs me all kinds of wrong.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:22 pm

In post 2264, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2249, Dwlee99 wrote:I've seen scum neighborizer do this EXACT play before ftr. In Yggdrasil, Something_Smart was disloyal neighborizer and fake claimed loyal neighborizer. I feel like the way DGB approached its claim mostly benefits it if it is scum, but it's also possible it is just them derping.
I also saw mastina fakeclaim loyal gladiator as scum disloyal gladiator

Honestly, Gamma is playing out of left field with so many of their takes and it has me thinking they are Scum here trying to go against Town solving things.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:22 pm

In post 2265, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2258, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2256, DrippingGoofball wrote:Now I am going to get NK'd.

That was stupid, LQ
You know, it kinda was. But given my role, I thought (at the time) your role didn't line up with mine.
I don't even know your role, I was just checking on mobile and saw the mess you made that will lead to me being NK'd and losing my second shot.

Shame on me for trusting you and shame on you for betraying me.

I mean, sorry I guess. I didn't know you wouldn't get another shot.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:22 pm

This is why I should just be VT every game.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:24 pm

In post 2272, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2268, LicketyQuickety wrote:I mean, sorry I guess. I didn't know you wouldn't get another shot.
How could you not know claiming 2-shot on Day 2 wouldn't lead to my NK?????????????????????????????????????????????

Because I am really really slow with mechanical stuff.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:26 pm

In post 2276, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2142, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2139, Nero Cain wrote:Dgb claimed 1x.
Claimed what now?

In post 2143, LicketyQuickety wrote:He claimed he was 2 shot to me.

I am skeptical for 2 reasons:

He claimed loyal.

I am a backup Neighborizer and it does not indicate at all that I am X-shot.

SERIOUSLY HOW COULD YOU NOT PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER

Because I am not a logical thinker at all. I suck at logic, which is why I suck at this game.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:28 pm

In post 2280, DrippingGoofball wrote:Couldn't you have run this by me in the PT??????????????????????????????????

You weren't around and Nero wanted Mega to claim.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:34 pm

I'm quite literally an idiot sandwich.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:35 pm

In post 2291, Nero Cain wrote:Y not just use both your shots B4 claiming?

Because DGB didn't realize how stupid I was.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:38 pm

Tracker on DGB, obviously.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:39 pm

In post 2300, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2293, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2291, Nero Cain wrote:Y not just use both your shots B4 claiming?
Because DGB didn't realize how stupid I was.
We have a PT... why couldn't we have discussed it in the PT...........

I can only say I am stupid so many times, DGB.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:06 pm

In post 2317, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2315, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2312, Dwlee99 wrote:The answer is yes. Killing happens at the end of NAR and people trying to confirm this are ruffling my feathers because I feel like you're trying to dumbtell this
Likely but we need it confirmed because if DGB targets scum and dies it'll get messy.
I just checked, my role PM doesn't say I die if I hit scum, only that the action will fail.

I mean, this is true for Loyal, so...

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:07 pm

In post 2318, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2314, Dwlee99 wrote:I've been nightkilled by a vigilante on replace in, didn't even post in the thread. Nightkilled by a different scum faction (who I guess thought I was town? at least?). And nightkilled by Nero thinking I was scum. Just let me die
So you want to die an honorable death, shot by scum in the middle of the night and as a confirmed townie?

Yeah, I think me and DGB CAN actually work together on who to target. I've given DGB some options and they seem to agree with my thought process. We will see. DGB and I can continue to talk about it.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:41 pm

In post 2333, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 2098, Save The Dragons wrote:don't make it easy for scum, if cyrus is scum time will tell but don't lim him just because he's wacky because he's wacky nuts crazy bonkers cuckoo no offense
Honestly, agreed. I read a Cyrus game and played a bit with him once... He's always like this.

What do you think of lynching Mega?

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:45 pm

In post 2336, KittyTacky wrote:Also we now use lim.

Ugh. I keep forgetting that. Sorry @MOD.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:34 pm

@AA9

Can you give me like a PoE of like 5 or 6 people?

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:00 pm

In post 2349, Nero Cain wrote:VOTE: cyrus62

Angel, Shrek isn't going to be eliminated so you are being pretty useless with your vote.

If Cyrus flips scum pr then cheeky and Shrek look pretty awefully for trying to keep him around.

What happened to Mega? I'm fine with Mega. Stick to the plan.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:32 pm

Don't hammer till I make a parting gift post (in case I am NKed).

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:26 pm

In post 836, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 778, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 775, CheekyTeeky wrote:That Tess locktown just came too early
Hey maybe it's role related

In post 781, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 1.9T3 (6) - Dwlee99, Almost50, Nero Cain, LicketyQuickety, CheekyTeeky, Dragon of the West [E-3]
Testarossa (4) - Shrek, NorwegianboyEE, Roden, DrippingGoofball
Nero Cain (4) - ArcAngel9, T3, Gamma Emerald, MegAzumarill
Save The Dragons (1) - Testarossa
Gamma Emerald (1) - Save The Dragons

Not voting: KittyTacky

With 17 alive it takes 9 to exile.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-08-21 18:00:00) or when an exile is reached.
This doesn't add up. DGB says either Testa is a PR or MegA is and knows Testa is town or possibly both in a masonry or neighborhood but DGB is voting Testa?

Like if DGB were actually town afraid of my spewing of Testa/MegA TPR, wouldn't they have reevaluated at that point instead of just shading me for it?

In post 840, CheekyTeeky wrote:MegA, Testa, T3, X

Am I getting closer yet?

In post 843, CheekyTeeky wrote:MegA, T3, DGB, Roden

I just can't see Roden as scum.

In post 950, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 918, MegAzumarill wrote:Nero what's your problem with me? Because I really don't get what you are doing unless its some refuge in audacity kind of shenanigains, and I'd like to stopped being roped into this conflict so I can focus on the game.

Arcangel could you give some thoughts on the game soon?
This feels weird. Noone has really been roping you into conflict. Your activity has died down a lot and much has happened so could you please give some updated reads?

In post 1089, CheekyTeeky wrote:Dwlee, MegA, DGB, AA9?

In post 1141, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 1135, Shrek wrote:cheeky who are your top townreads and scumreads atm
This is my working list atm:

{LicketyQuickety, Roden, NorwegianboyEE, Shrek}
{Nero Cain, Dragon of the West, Save The Dragons, Gamma Emerald}
{Almost50, KittyTacky, ArcAngel9}
{DrippingGoofball}
{Testarossa, Dwlee99, MegAzumarill}
{T3}

I need to relook at the Dragons, Dwlee99 and T3 don't make sense together.

Cheeky has zero progression on Mega. They just go from highly TRing them to SRing them for no rhyme or reason. Only reason they give is that Mega's content dropped off. I could totally see Cheeky being Scum if Mega flipped Red.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:30 pm

In post 149, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 146, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 141, Testarossa wrote:Hellu to all I know from the recent game, it's like 04:00 Am here and now is the best time to be here. Oh yeah, and the others too.

VOTE: Nero

Are you scum again or what's up with that early wagon?
2 of it seem to be interactions with T3, 2 of it is RVS.

Also why are people piling onto Testarosaa?
Cheeky/Shrek I would like to hear some reasonings
You can be town too.

In post 289, CheekyTeeky wrote:Sigh.

Well townreads currently Mega, T3, Gamma, Testa, Roden.

In post 346, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 341, Nero Cain wrote:VOTE: mega

I mean maybe I'm the only one that really gets it bc it's about me but mega is threatening to wagon me while simultaneously saying that I haven't done anything real scummy. Like am I honestly the only one that thinks this is bs
Town Nero would've said
"Mega talking out both sides of their mouth but contributing nothing"
And wouldn't care what anyone else thinks.

In post 481, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 441, T3 wrote:I DECLARE A TOWNBLOC!

T3, LQ, CheekyTeeky, Meg, and NorweiganboyEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
This isn't half bad. Norwee read a bit hasty, but a lean there is acceptable for now.

I feel like Mega is doing all the things that town naturally do, like pushing and prodding players for content and trying to get something from the low posters. Mega is definitely locktown for me.

LQ is always a bit curly for me and I feel like they're almost too friendly to be town since I remember them being quite short and assertive as town. Could be old meta but a slot I'd keep an eye on.

T3 could be doing a common noob scum play where they focus solely on scumreading one slot to look like they're scumhunting, plus not giving away too much. I've never played with them before though so I'm not quite sure of their range. I'm pretty confident that T3 vs Nero is SvT and if either flips green the other will flip red.

In post 590, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 576, Roden wrote:Testa's vote on Nero and quick switch onto StD once she got pressured on it made me think she's scared to have attention on her,
I noticed that too, I was hoping they would post more.

What do you make of Mega lock towning Testa pretty fast? That kinda skewed my read there.

In post 634, CheekyTeeky wrote:{LicketyQuickety, Roden, MegAzumarill, NorwegianboyEE}
{Gamma Emerald, Shrek, Dwlee99}
{Almost50, KittyTacky, ArcAngel9, Save The Dragons}
{Testarossa, Dragon of the West}
{DrippingGoofball, T3}{Nero Cain}

This is where I'm at currently.

In post 775, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 189, MegAzumarill wrote:
mega - comes in hot and asking questions which is something i rarely see scum doing if at all. i would like to see some reads of your own (if youve read up on everything) but thats pretty much it
TR: tess
TL: Roden, LQ
NR: most people unlisted
SL DPG, Shrek, maybe Dwlee
SR: TemporalLich (lockscum)
Rereading MegA's iso make me think, and I hate to say it, that Nero could be right. That Tess locktown just came too early when people started shining a light on them. SLs pretty LHF at that point and dislike the joke SR MegA felt they needed as like filler.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:50 pm

I'd really rather Elim Gamma at this point. Just as good of a chance they are Scum and it's 10X more informative.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:01 pm

Gamma>Shrek>Mega>Cyrus

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:02 pm

In post 2358, LicketyQuickety wrote:Gamma>Shrek>Mega>Cyrus

That's my priority on Elim today.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:34 pm

Here's a list of level of percentage of non-associatives. High usually indicates Town and low usually indicates Scum. Think about this in terms of how much impact a player has compared to how many posts they have.

Roden, ArcAngel9

Mega, Dwlee99, Shrek

DGB, StD, Cyrus

DotW, Nero, Gamma, Kitty

A50

In the case of A50, I just don't know because they don't have ANY. In the case of both Kitty they have 1. In the case of Cyrus, they have 2. All these are hard to read based on that because they also have a low post count.

In the case of Mega, they only have non-associatives with Nero, so it doesn't tell us much if they get Eliminated.

I will not be voting for either of the top 2 today. I would suggest putting more pressure on the 4th tier. I have Gamma as Scum based on play and since they are this low I would really not mind Eliming Gamma today.

I might even be willing to sheep AA9 because of this data for two reasons: Their non-associative percentage is super high and Shrek is a high info Elim and they could be Scum as well.

Still my preferred Elim order is Gamma>Shek>Mega>Cyrus>Kitty

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:35 pm

Cheeky is also on the 4th tier.

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:41 pm

Here is a list of clears based on a Red flip of each player:

A50: None

DGB:
Clears: Roden
Soft-Clears: Gamma, DW, Cheeky
Light-Clears: Cyrus

Nero:
Clears: Cheeky, Mega
Light-clears: Kitty, Gamma, Roden

Kitty:
Light-Clears: Nero

Gamma:
Soft-Clears: DGB, Shrek
Light-Clears: Nero, DW, AA0, StD, Roden

DW:
Soft-Clears: Roden, DGB, Cheeky,
Light-Clears: Gamma, AA9, DotW

Cheeky:
Clears: Nero
Soft-Clears: DGB
Light-Clears: StD

AA9:
Clears: Shrek
Light-Clears: Gamma, DW

DotW:
Light-Clears: DW, Cyrus

StD:
Light-Clears: Gamma, Cheeky

Cyrus:
Light-Clears: DGB, DotW

Mega:
Clears: Nero

Roden:
Clears: DGB, Shrek
Soft-Clears: DW
Light-Clears: Nero, Gamma

Shrek:
Clears: AA9, StD, Roden
Soft-Clears: Gamma

LicketyQuickety · Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:45 pm

In post 2363, CheekyTeeky wrote:I have no words, but admire the amount of work you've put in.

It's really not that hard when you know what to look for/know what to calculate.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:53 am

In post 2366, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2115, Gamma Emerald wrote:is it DGB?

Thank you, Gamma. for a good laugh

Have any thoughts about the game?

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:34 am

I'm like 90% sure I believe DGB is Town now, FWIW.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:30 am

In post 2400, Nero Cain wrote:I mean I was dead in 233 and I didn't push u hard in large normal if you are scum you have 3 buddies that are less likely to vote you and scum hunting isn't easy. Its like herding kittens sometimes

There's a guy st my apartment complex who tries to walk his kitten on a leash. It's quite sad.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:49 am

In post 2416, CheekyTeeky wrote:Cyrus can you try harder? DGB claim resolves itself. MegA claim resol es itself. Why are you voting DGB?

Vote Gamma. That's the ticket to ride.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:55 am

In post 2422, Nero Cain wrote:I agree with dw that megas claim sounds like bull

Or we just force all the Scum to claim

:eyebrows:

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:13 am

I kinda low key don't want to Elim Cyrus...

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:42 am

We did it! Page 100! Proud of you guys.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:50 am

In post 2484, Nero Cain wrote:1 more vote till Cyrus self hammers

We already did the VT self hammer thing once this game. Isn't that enough?

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:54 am

In post 2486, CheekyTeeky wrote:LQ might be a good idea not to disclose results until everyone checks in tomorrow.

It's better to mislim another townie than to run up another claim at this point.

I'm gunna be dead D3 anyways so it won't really matter. I already left my parting gift. Use that to solve the game down the line.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:56 am

In post 2489, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2487, Nero Cain wrote:Shouldn't mega claim first
Srs?

I swear you guys waste more posts than even me.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:57 am

VOTE: Roden

I think I'm just gunna sheep StD and AA9 this game.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:59 am

In post 2493, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2491, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2489, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2487, Nero Cain wrote:Shouldn't mega claim first
Srs?
I swear you guys waste more posts than even me.
I'm trying to be #1.

Clearly.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:09 am

In post 2496, Roden wrote:
In post 2492, LicketyQuickety wrote:VOTE: Roden

I think I'm just gunna sheep StD and AA9 this game.
Didn't you just put me as a top town read through associations just a couple pages ago?

Yeah, but if you flip Red that could almost solve the game so...

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:13 am

I'm curious what Spotify is like on Tablet. I know on mobile you can't actually listen to full albums and it just gives you a bunch of "similar sounding" music. I prefer PC because then you can listen to albums. But I'm not paying $10/month to get add free. Screw that.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:39 am

Nero, do you like this? Y/N?

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:43 am

Cheeky, I feel like this is more your style (not a fan of it myself):

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:47 am

This is A50, obviously:

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:51 am

This would be me, I think.

And I'm done.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:01 am

In post 2503, Dwlee99 wrote:What about me?

IDK... Let me think what is like DW...

Maybe something like this?

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:10 am

In post 2505, Dwlee99 wrote:As a meme song maybe. Also it's insane that that was directed by Tessa Violet, I like her music.

I can do no other when I see stuff like this:

In post 1590, Dwlee99 wrote:

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:18 am

In post 2508, Shrek wrote:do me next. if you do an obvious song you will lose my respect forever

I mean, you asked for a not obvious song, so I was thinking this:

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:26 am

In post 2513, Shrek wrote:this sounds like a dying man’s last screams for help blended and tone shifted into a diss track over duke nukem music

Does that mean you like it or...

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:30 am

In post 2510, Roden wrote:
In post 2497, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2496, Roden wrote:
In post 2492, LicketyQuickety wrote:VOTE: Roden

I think I'm just gunna sheep StD and AA9 this game.
Didn't you just put me as a top town read through associations just a couple pages ago?
Yeah, but if you flip Red that could almost solve the game so...
Except I'll flip green and you'll just pointlessly mis-elim your strongest town read. I've never seen this "kill your town reads" strat before but I don't think it'll be controversial for me to say that's an objectively bad idea.

Like, you have someone who can supposedly catch guilties while also adding confirmed townies to a hood, and your first idea is to...purposely mis-elim your town reads in case you're bad at the game and misread them? Why do I even have to suggest to have me get Neighborized? How was this not your first thought?

I think this for you:

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:38 am

In post 2519, CheekyTeeky wrote:This is more me:

Video unavailable

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:06 pm

In post 2521, CheekyTeeky wrote:Oh lame try this

Kinda squishy kind of music.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:19 pm

In post 2523, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 2465, Nero Cain wrote:In what game has Cyrus said he'd self hammer if he got ran up. I don't think I saw that in our last game
i did this in town strumps. And I was still baby sitting yep. Nero is scum here. And now that I had time to think that I said I wouldn't bother reading dw l dw is pro team .. I feel like rodan is using bad meta to f read me as scum. The diffence between the game Nero is referring to he was ww . And I sarted that game . Town self hammers so people can see who voted them. Yes yes I know my last game I hammered as scum to mess with you all . Hoping I could break up the town core . I knew who you town was there I don't know who is town here which is why I don't
Know who to trust and it could take more time to form reads.

Just pretend that Nero isn't playing.

Who is your PoE of like 5-6?

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:25 pm

In post 2523, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 2465, Nero Cain wrote:In what game has Cyrus said he'd self hammer if he got ran up. I don't think I saw that in our last game
i did this in town strumps. And I was still baby sitting yep. Nero is scum here. And now that I had time to think that I said I wouldn't bother reading dw l dw is pro team .. I feel like rodan is using bad meta to f read me as scum. The diffence between the game Nero is referring to he was ww . And I sarted that game . Town self hammers so people can see who voted them. Yes yes I know my last game I hammered as scum to mess with you all . Hoping I could break up the town core . I knew who you town was there I don't know who is town here which is why I don't
Know who to trust and it could take more time to form reads.

Oh, forgot your music. You can be this:

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:46 pm

In post 2527, Roden wrote:If I get any louder I'll start town telling.

LOL.

Okay, but really my vote is just based on StD's vote and I want to see where it goes. StD was right on T3 and I kinda want to know what else they are right about.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:55 pm

In post 2530, cyrus62 wrote:as for my poe nero, dgb,lickety ,kitty and mega opps remove nero and add rodan

Is this just based on lack of interaction?

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:59 pm

In post 2532, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 2531, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2530, cyrus62 wrote:as for my poe nero, dgb,lickety ,kitty and mega opps remove nero and add rodan
Is this just based on lack of interaction?
no dgb is trying to change the law on the way people hammer town always self hammers scum self vote.

Is that applicable to this specific game, or in general?

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:02 pm

In post 2534, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 2532, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 2531, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2530, cyrus62 wrote:as for my poe nero, dgb,lickety ,kitty and mega opps remove nero and add rodan
Is this just based on lack of interaction?
no dgb is trying to change the law on the way people hammer town always self hammers scum self vote.
rodan is useing bad meta . you are off and so i scum read you. kitty has been on two town wagons that were easy to push. nero is just scum here. mega for thire clime.

Is Nero Scum or not?

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:08 pm

In post 2536, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 2533, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2532, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 2531, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2530, cyrus62 wrote:as for my poe nero, dgb,lickety ,kitty and mega opps remove nero and add rodan
Is this just based on lack of interaction?
no dgb is trying to change the law on the way people hammer town always self hammers scum self vote.
Is that applicable to this specific game, or in general?
in general why because scum self hammer if they do so their partners why slip or to prevent information from coming fourth . town does it because they want other town to hunt on their wagon. scum self vote hoping town will back off.

So who is Scum on your wagon?

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:15 pm

In post 2540, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 2538, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2536, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 2533, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2532, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 2531, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2530, cyrus62 wrote:as for my poe nero, dgb,lickety ,kitty and mega opps remove nero and add rodan
Is this just based on lack of interaction?
no dgb is trying to change the law on the way people hammer town always self hammers scum self vote.
Is that applicable to this specific game, or in general?
in general why because scum self hammer if they do so their partners why slip or to prevent information from coming fourth . town does it because they want other town to hunt on their wagon. scum self vote hoping town will back off.
So who is Scum on your wagon?
dgb nero and rodan

DGB is almost self resolving at this point. I think Nero want to lynch you because he thinks you are worthless to Town. Roden could probably use some pressure (see where my vote is atm).

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:31 pm

In post 2544, Roden wrote:Dwlee still seething that I don't auto town lock them when they've given me zero reason to do so three games in a row.

These kinds of arguments never develop into anything healthy (See: Nero).

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:35 pm

In post 2548, cyrus62 wrote:any way some buddy vote me so i can prove im town.

I will never understand you.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:37 pm

Whatever.

VOTE: Cyrus

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:41 pm

In post 2552, CheekyTeeky wrote:Tbh I'd be down for a Roden Rodeo.

Too late for that now. I already voted the self-hammering Townie. Show your cards Cyrus. Are you Town or Scum?

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:41 pm

In post 2553, CheekyTeeky wrote:UNVOTE:

Why are you the way you are?

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:43 pm

In post 2556, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 2553, CheekyTeeky wrote:UNVOTE:
put your vote back

Honestly, comical.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:50 pm

In post 2562, Roden wrote:
In post 2546, Dwlee99 wrote:No, you bothered me because your case was bad.

In post 2547, Dwlee99 wrote:And then you doubled down on it^
You always say my case is bad but when other people say the exact same shit you just shrug it off and meme response. I wasn't even gunning for you, all I said was why you're in my current scum pool and gave what are, to me at least, legitimate reasons. If you're joking about a meta read then sorry, it did not come off as a joke to me because you were voting for the guy you said you meta'd.

I said don't vote T3 off Day 1 because he'll sort himself right from the start and got completely ignored on that. So yeah I'm a little bitter that people are getting a free pass on that but suddenly I need "pressure" even though I'm supposedly a town read and was 100% right Day 1. It's almost an exact repeat of Chrono Trigger with Kyouko and AW and it's frustrating.

If I told you you were one of the people DGB and I are considering, how would that make you feel?

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:51 pm

In post 2566, CheekyTeeky wrote:This is like watching a magician who explains the magic.

LOL. Wow. Had me going there for a while. LMAO.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:53 pm

In post 2569, cyrus62 wrote:NorwegianboyEE IS DEAD TOWN T3 SELF HAMMERD NERO WAS ON BOTH SO WAS CHEEKY AND KITTY

Are you suggesting Nero and Cheeky are teamed?

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:55 pm

Depressing honestly.

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:59 pm

In post 2574, Roden wrote:Fucking ecstatic if I can actually trust DGB this game.

Kinda OTT but whatever...

LicketyQuickety · Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:10 pm

In post 2580, cyrus62 wrote:A FORMER APOLOGIZE

LMAO.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:42 pm

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:46 pm

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:53 pm

In post 2625, Roden wrote:DGB, were you blocked?

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:05 pm

In post 2631, Roden wrote:
In post 2628, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm in a hood now
Lmao

Ok, if true and a RB exists they targeted me then, but I'm not actually Vig, that was a fake claim. I told DGB to target you because I wanted to see if scum would have no problem with me shooting you, which would basically confirm you as town if they knew I would misfire. And if they did try to stop me then I draw the RB away from DGB and you still become confirmed town. Though idk if DGB is confirmed as Loyal Neighborizer yet.

For what reason do you doubt DGB's claim?

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:08 pm

In post 2636, CheekyTeeky wrote:I do really like your play though DGB, nice move putting a 2-shot on your role and tricking us with your wily ways.

I believe DGB's claim.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:11 pm

In post 2638, CheekyTeeky wrote:You shouldn't.

Unless you have a peek I think I believe the claim. Do you have a peek?

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:12 pm

In post 2642, DrippingGoofball wrote:We targeted Shrek, and Shrek didn't join the neighborhood which means Shrek is scum.

This is true. We discussed it. We were going to target Nero, but I actually asked DGB to reconsider on Nero and go for Shrek instead.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:17 pm

In post 2648, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2644, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2638, CheekyTeeky wrote:You shouldn't.
Unless you have a peek I think I believe the claim. Do you have a peek?
No because DGB is Ascetic and the only reason to lie about that is because it's scum.

What makes you think DGB is Ascetic? I literally have a hood with them. We went over our option and picked Shrek. I was half sheeping AA9 and StD and half relying on what a Red Shrek tells us.

Red check on Shrek Clears:

Shrek:
Clears: AA9, StD, Roden
Soft-Clears: Gamma

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:21 pm

Spoiler: lack of progression on DGB

Walk me through this progression here how you go from disloyal to ascetic?

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:23 pm

VOTE: Shrek

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:26 pm

In post 2674, CheekyTeeky wrote:I don't understand the guilty on Shrek though because if they flip green then we just kill DGB? Unless Shrek is scum buss to let DGB end game?

That would require that I die before DGB... And I already said I am backup Neighborizer, so...

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:27 pm

In post 2677, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2668, Shrek wrote:i should claim now
yes

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:31 pm

In post 2682, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2676, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2674, CheekyTeeky wrote:I don't understand the guilty on Shrek though because if they flip green then we just kill DGB? Unless Shrek is scum buss to let DGB end game?
That would require that I die before DGB... And I already said I am backup Neighborizer, so...
Why do you have to die??

Because I would have to die BEFORE DGB if DGB is Scum for obvious reasons like... it confirms their role unless there is another Neighborizer... and I already asked about this being a hood game... and it isn't... so DGB is either Disloyal or telling the truth and I'm inclined to think they are telling the truth at this point since there was ongoing discussion and DGB didn't just ditch me when I tested to see if they would respond... And they took my advice to target Shrek... so...

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:32 pm

In post 2688, DrippingGoofball wrote:Between Dwlee, Roden, LQ and myself we have a 4-person townbloc.

And AA9.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:34 pm

In post 2690, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2667, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, you could have just been blocked too in Wich case if mega were a town watcher there's a gulity on someone else
How do you know I had a fail?

Nero was talking about DGB's action, not yours.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:35 pm

In post 2694, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm really confused that my role failed if DGB is not ascetic because theres zero reason scum would have RB'd me last night.

DGB isn't fricken Ascetic.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:37 pm

In post 2698, CheekyTeeky wrote:Why the hell would scum roleblock a mason?

Because I honestly at first thought you were the Neighborizer since I knew my role, but it turns out your claim was just pointless.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:41 pm

In post 2706, Dwlee99 wrote:If STD was protecting DGB then it is conf town now soo

I couldn't find a crumb in StD's ISO. I mean, that's probably where they were, but it's not a guarantee.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:50 pm

Shrek really needs to claim sooner rather than later.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:53 pm

In post 2720, Shrek wrote:dgb didnt perform an action last night

is lying about what it is

This makes zero sense...

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:55 pm

@Shrek, are you an X-shot?

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:56 pm

In post 2724, Shrek wrote:
In post 2721, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2720, Shrek wrote:dgb didnt perform an action last night

is lying about what it is
This makes zero sense...
it means that if it didnt perform an action and is lying about their role then they cant actually be neighborizer and you two are scum partners

LOL. That's rich... So you think DGB is either 1-shot or Scum?

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:57 pm

In post 2726, Roden wrote:I'm so confused?

Cheeky checked DGB and got no result.

Shrek checked DGB and got no result.

DGB checked Shrek and got no result.

How does any of that make any sense?

Still have to wait for Mega. Else, DGB was Rolestopped.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:59 pm

In post 2731, Shrek wrote:i mean i didnt get a result back so idk what he is. you tell me.

I mean, I can tinfoil that DGB is Scum and Scum have a rolestopper, but eh, then it would depend on Mega. If mega gets no result then things get weird.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:01 pm

In post 2733, Shrek wrote:i still think mega's claim is bs considering how late in the phase it was but ill wait for him

Any way you slice it, Town is in a really good position right now.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:03 pm

In post 2737, Shrek wrote:
In post 2735, Dwlee99 wrote:Shrek did you get no result or no action?
i got no result back. are they not the same thing?

Your claim is getting weirder and weirder, bro.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:05 pm

In post 2737, Shrek wrote:
In post 2735, Dwlee99 wrote:Shrek did you get no result or no action?
i got no result back. are they not the same thing?

In post 2742, Shrek wrote:oh my b. i got the first one

Did you get "No Result" or didn't get any result?

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:06 pm

In post 2743, CheekyTeeky wrote:If you got no result I don't understand how you can say that DGB is not Ascetic.

Do you really think DGB is Ascetic Disloyal 1-shot Neighborizer? Because I don't.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:14 pm

I feel a bit better about Gamma now.

I wanted to check Shrek because I felt like StD and AA9 were the ignored voice of reason and they both SR Shrek. And both of them are clear on a Red Shrek. And Roden is also Clear on a Red Shrek, but will check for distancing.

So far FMPOV, we have Me, DGB, AA9, Roden as completely clear. Then to a lesser degree I would put both DW and Gamma in the second tier (but these can be wrong but are okay for now). Mega also has potential to clear everything up all nice and purty like, so I'm looking forward to that.

I'm TRing Nero and Cheeky. Also, I think A50 is Soft-Cleared for Shrek's vote there.

So altogether, the clears or potential clears FMPOV are:

Me
DGB
AA9
Roden
Mega
Nero
Cheeky
A50

We can Reeval later but I think that's Auto as it is.

LicketyQuickety · Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:22 pm

In post 2629, Shrek wrote:VOTE: almost50

sure im up for some pressure

In post 2635, Shrek wrote:
In post 2632, Nero Cain wrote:We should have just prob killed mega yesterday
tbh i agree with this. the last minute claim was sus as hell

In post 2668, Shrek wrote:put me up if you want but im legitimately town. personally my choices for a lim today would be mega/kitty/a50. i KNOW what you are thinking that i am mega sus for not joining your hood but i have a PR that explains it. not sure if i should claim now or later when im endangered but i completely understand where dgb/lq are coming from so do NOT get on them either just yet

Zero mention of DGB getting no result. Shrek never even saw it coming.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:36 am

In post 2811, Dragon of the West wrote:I also want Mega's results

Agreed. No lynch until we get that result.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:37 am

In post 2827, Dragon of the West wrote:Is there a world where scum!DGB is just neighborizer and a scum buddy rolestops them N2 so no investigative actions work on them? I guess scum!DGB claiming a guilty on someone would be unlikely...but idk it feels like the result would be messy enough to be plausible. Idk, I still think the most likely outcome is Shrek is lying here

This is a good thought actually. I pondered myself why DGB would be Loyal and X-shot given my own role.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:37 am

In post 2858, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2840, Dwlee99 wrote:Directly killed or targeted LQ probably
Who the fuck directly kills StD though

I can actually see that. StD was mixing things up too much for Scum to like IMO. And when I started to sheep him, that gave him more of a voice. Also, StD had AA9 as Town (as do I) and they were kinda sheeping each other.

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Besides that, I can see a world where Shrek is Scum and DGB is Scum and didn't perform a NA to cause DGB to go deep. So it would basically be a bus. This assumes DGB is not a loyal or disloyal Neighborizer, but is just a plain Neighborizer without X-shot or just a 1-shot.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:28 am

In post 2872, Dwlee99 wrote:If that's true then DGB is ascetic and evil

Yes. Unless you think Cheeky, Shrek, and Mega are all Scum, then DGB is just Scum here and didn't use their NA last night.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:29 am

In post 2874, Dwlee99 wrote:How did you get a result but cheeky and Shrek didn't

Because they are watcher.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:34 am

In post 2878, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2875, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2872, Dwlee99 wrote:If that's true then DGB is ascetic and evil
Yes. Unless you think Cheeky, Shrek, and Mega are all Scum, then DGB is just Scum here and didn't use their NA last night.
But if DGB is ascetic then mega shouldn't get a result.

True. I can also see Mega and DGB as Scum and Mega doesn't have a claim and Scum still rolestopped DGB. Either way, Cheeky and Shrek are clear. Well, Shrek less so, but it does look that way.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:16 am

In post 2890, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2499, LicketyQuickety wrote:Nero, do you like this? Y/N?

I actually had a memo I made during the night phase saying I’d like it if you did song picks for all the living players still in the game

Maybe. I guess I will do you now.

Just based on the avatar:

Because the band dresses up like USSR Cold War soldier uniforms.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:20 am

In post 2893, Gamma Emerald wrote:Uhhh my avatar is a witch

Then it's perfect because I posted some Christian Black Metal. Goes with the contrarian Witch/Black Metal but Christian contrast.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:42 am

In post 2897, Roden wrote:
In post 2726, Roden wrote:I'm so confused?

Cheeky checked DGB and got no result.

Shrek checked DGB and got no result.

DGB checked Shrek and got no result.

How does any of that make any sense?
Ok, to add to this with the new info we got:

Mega watched DGB and saw Shrek and Cheeky visit. StD did not target DGB.

This means DGB wasn't the NK target. Idk who scum targeted, but this does mean they couldn't have blocked Cheeky unless they were fully allowing DGB to check someone. If Shrek is scum and knows he's a likely Loyal Neighborizer target since DGB is targeting people who are top town reads, I think it makes less sense for him to RB Cheeky over DGB.

We also know DGB isn't aesthetic because Mega got a result. Other people mentioned Alien and looking it up on the wiki, I think that's the only way it makes sense for so many people to get no result while DGB also gets a false positive. If this is what happened, then DGB's role can be used against it to falsely accuse town and then likely get it mis-elim'd afterwards.

However, Shrek's response still looks weird. Like he wasn't expecting for DGB to still get a result at all and doesn't understand why DGB isn't claiming an unsuccessful/blocked check over a guilty result.

You're ignoring that Mega can be Scum with DGB.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:44 am

So... who's up for a Gamma Elim?

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:47 am

In post 2901, DrippingGoofball wrote:uh why

Because everything else sorts itself out. We just let the NKs decide things.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:53 am

In post 2903, DrippingGoofball wrote:no

Yes. It's the best strategy instead of leaving it up to WIFOM with the roles. Depending on the NKs we can decide who to lynch from there. If you have nothing to hide, you should be fine with this.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:04 am

In post 2907, Roden wrote:
In post 2898, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2897, Roden wrote:
In post 2726, Roden wrote:I'm so confused?

Cheeky checked DGB and got no result.

Shrek checked DGB and got no result.

DGB checked Shrek and got no result.

How does any of that make any sense?
Ok, to add to this with the new info we got:

Mega watched DGB and saw Shrek and Cheeky visit. StD did not target DGB.

This means DGB wasn't the NK target. Idk who scum targeted, but this does mean they couldn't have blocked Cheeky unless they were fully allowing DGB to check someone. If Shrek is scum and knows he's a likely Loyal Neighborizer target since DGB is targeting people who are top town reads, I think it makes less sense for him to RB Cheeky over DGB.

We also know DGB isn't aesthetic because Mega got a result. Other people mentioned Alien and looking it up on the wiki, I think that's the only way it makes sense for so many people to get no result while DGB also gets a false positive. If this is what happened, then DGB's role can be used against it to falsely accuse town and then likely get it mis-elim'd afterwards.

However, Shrek's response still looks weird. Like he wasn't expecting for DGB to still get a result at all and doesn't understand why DGB isn't claiming an unsuccessful/blocked check over a guilty result.
You're ignoring that Mega can be Scum with DGB.
If Mega is scum with DGB then you aren't confirmed town either and we got zero info out of this hood. We always vote Shrek first here, and if he flips green then we consider DGB + Mega. You seem to trust DGB though so I'm not sure why you're suggesting that pairing?

No, actually. I believe Shrek. And I believe Cheeky. Cheeky is clear regardless. Shrek less so, but seems to be pointing in that direction.

If I had to pick a Scum team, I'd go with Gamma, Roden, DGB, Mega. I don't like all the derps that DGB had regarding their claim. That really rubs me the wrong way. I also think DGB didn't actually use a NA last Night.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:06 am

In post 2908, Roden wrote:
In post 2900, LicketyQuickety wrote:So... who's up for a Gamma Elim?
Why would we do Gamma first instead of Shrek???

Because I gut believe Shrek. I'd like to see what Shrek has to say about their N1, but given Mega's result, I think that more or less clears Shrek unless Shrek is rolestopper.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:10 am

In post 2912, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2871, MegAzumarill wrote:Results:
CheekyTeeky and Shrek visited DrippingGoofball last night.
I just thought of an explanation for what's going on that pretty much explains this, and if it's right StD did not target DGB (or he did but was directly targeted)

Which is what?

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:11 am

In post 2913, Dwlee99 wrote:Shrek can't be a rolestopper. Shrek also claimed no result, not your target didn't visit anyone.

Tracker sees what the targeted person targets. Watcher sees who targeted the target.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:14 am

In post 2916, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2914, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2912, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2871, MegAzumarill wrote:Results:
CheekyTeeky and Shrek visited DrippingGoofball last night.
I just thought of an explanation for what's going on that pretty much explains this, and if it's right StD did not target DGB (or he did but was directly targeted)
Which is what?
MegA is scum rolestopper or alien, and waited out everyone else to see who they could claim visited DGB

I mean, it's a wash anyway you put it. The only person 100% cleared is Cheeky. Any of the others, or combination could be Scum (but I don't think Shrek is Scum with DGB or Mega).

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:14 am

In post 2918, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2896, DrippingGoofball wrote:Can you imagine being a tracker and not mentioning your Night 1 result?
FYI this is a solid point

Not if they didn't get a result.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:17 am

In post 2922, Roden wrote:
In post 2910, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2908, Roden wrote:
In post 2900, LicketyQuickety wrote:So... who's up for a Gamma Elim?
Why would we do Gamma first instead of Shrek???
Because I gut believe Shrek. I'd like to see what Shrek has to say about their N1, but given Mega's result, I think that more or less clears Shrek unless Shrek is rolestopper.
But how does Gamma fit into the equation here? I do have them in my scum pool, but they're not involved with the hood situation at all. Gamma's flip doesn't prove who's lying and who's telling the truth, while Shrek's flip would.

Because I can see a world where Scum twist it to their liking D4 and push a false narrative. That's why we let the NK's sort it out.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:18 am

In post 2923, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 2874, Dwlee99 wrote:How did you get a result but cheeky and Shrek didn't
Because I was roleblocked! Shrek is scum! You people...

You were not RB'd. Someone is lying and I think it's DGB.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:26 am

In post 2930, Roden wrote:
In post 2924, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2922, Roden wrote:
In post 2910, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2908, Roden wrote:
In post 2900, LicketyQuickety wrote:So... who's up for a Gamma Elim?
Why would we do Gamma first instead of Shrek???
Because I gut believe Shrek. I'd like to see what Shrek has to say about their N1, but given Mega's result, I think that more or less clears Shrek unless Shrek is rolestopper.
But how does Gamma fit into the equation here? I do have them in my scum pool, but they're not involved with the hood situation at all. Gamma's flip doesn't prove who's lying and who's telling the truth, while Shrek's flip would.
Because I can see a world where Scum twist it to their liking D4 and push a false narrative. That's why we let the NK's sort it out.
Gamma elim doesn't prove or disprove anything though, while a Shrek elim does. If you think NKs resolve anything, all scum has to do is kill anyone not directly involved. Dwlee might actually die tonight because scum would've blocked me instead if Dwlee was scum and they were afraid I was telling the truth about my last minute Vig claim, but the RB clearly went elsewhere, so Dwlee is basically conftown.

No one was ever RBing you because your claim was fake.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:31 am

In post 2936, Roden wrote:
In post 2932, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2930, Roden wrote:
In post 2924, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2922, Roden wrote:
In post 2910, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2908, Roden wrote:
In post 2900, LicketyQuickety wrote:So... who's up for a Gamma Elim?
Why would we do Gamma first instead of Shrek???
Because I gut believe Shrek. I'd like to see what Shrek has to say about their N1, but given Mega's result, I think that more or less clears Shrek unless Shrek is rolestopper.
But how does Gamma fit into the equation here? I do have them in my scum pool, but they're not involved with the hood situation at all. Gamma's flip doesn't prove who's lying and who's telling the truth, while Shrek's flip would.
Because I can see a world where Scum twist it to their liking D4 and push a false narrative. That's why we let the NK's sort it out.
Gamma elim doesn't prove or disprove anything though, while a Shrek elim does. If you think NKs resolve anything, all scum has to do is kill anyone not directly involved. Dwlee might actually die tonight because scum would've blocked me instead if Dwlee was scum and they were afraid I was telling the truth about my last minute Vig claim, but the RB clearly went elsewhere, so Dwlee is basically conftown.
No one was ever RBing you because your claim was fake.
Scum doesn't know that, and if Dwlee was scum they wouldn't take that chance. The point is that because someone other than me was RB'd, scum were fine with Dwlee potentially getting shot, which heavily implies that they're town.

"Hi, I'm Vig and I am going to shout out my target at EoD just to let Scum know what I am doing."

Yeah, I don't buy that claim and neither should Scum.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:34 am

In post 2943, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2939, LicketyQuickety wrote:"Hi, I'm Vig and I am going to shout out my target at EoD just to let Scum know what I am doing."

Yeah, I don't buy that claim and neither should Scum.
this literally just happened in a recent game

Don't care. It's not something Roden does here with a true claim... ever. You like meta reads? Go look for Roden doing that legitimately as a real claim.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:35 am

In post 2944, Dragon of the West wrote:So DGB has a "guilty" in the sense that the person they targeted wasn't added to the PT. But they wouldn't know the difference between that and being blocked

Yeah, and DGB is still pushing the "Shrek is Scum" narrative that is really lacking an awareness of what has been said.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:36 am

In post 2946, Roden wrote:If I was scum and someone made an emotional charged statement about how they're going to kill me that night, it would at least make me paranoid. I doubt scum leave scum!Dwlee's life in the game up to chance. I'm not sure why you're arguing against this though since you don't seem to be scum reading Dwlee?

It does literally nothing since DW is Town.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:38 am

In post 2949, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2945, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2943, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2939, LicketyQuickety wrote:"Hi, I'm Vig and I am going to shout out my target at EoD just to let Scum know what I am doing."

Yeah, I don't buy that claim and neither should Scum.
this literally just happened in a recent game
Don't care. It's not something Roden does here with a true claim... ever. You like meta reads? Go look for Roden doing that legitimately as a real claim.
source? I don't care to search for a needle in a haystack when seem to know what you're talking about

My source is that Roden just shouts out their NA for literally zero reason at EoD. I don't think Scum are that stupid. I don't think they should buy the claim. Hence, the claim does nothing unless DW is Scum and DW isn't Scum.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:38 am

In post 2952, Roden wrote:
In post 2948, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2946, Roden wrote:If I was scum and someone made an emotional charged statement about how they're going to kill me that night, it would at least make me paranoid. I doubt scum leave scum!Dwlee's life in the game up to chance. I'm not sure why you're arguing against this though since you don't seem to be scum reading Dwlee?
It does literally nothing since DW is Town.
That's what I'm saying??? Why are you arguing with me?

Because I think the Scum team is Roden/Gamma/DGB/X

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:41 am

In post 2956, Roden wrote:
In post 2945, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2943, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2939, LicketyQuickety wrote:"Hi, I'm Vig and I am going to shout out my target at EoD just to let Scum know what I am doing."

Yeah, I don't buy that claim and neither should Scum.
this literally just happened in a recent game
Don't care. It's not something Roden does here with a true claim... ever. You like meta reads? Go look for Roden doing that legitimately as a real claim.
I softed that I was going to Vig DGB before and got blocked. Scum thought I was Cop though.

Yeah, "softed" is the exact opposite of "Hey, I'd doing this" to the whole thread and topping it off with, "But don't tell the Scum."

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:44 am

In post 2959, Nero Cain wrote:still think its just shrek, mega, gamma and ????

Yeah, let's Elim Gamma.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:45 am

In post 2961, Roden wrote:LQ, if DGB is scum then not only are you not conftown anymore, you are also most likely scum because you're twisting this narrative in such a way that I logically don't see how it could ever be sound.

We're voting Shrek today because this solves who's lying and who's telling the truth. No other vote besides DGB itself does this and I'm not voting DGB. Shrek literally got caught fake claiming so I don't understand why you think they're telling the truth.

What world do you live in where I paint a huge target on my Scum buddy for literally zero reason whatsoever?

And no. I'm not voting for Shrek. I'm voting for

VOTE: Gamma

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:46 am

In post 2966, Nero Cain wrote:y gamma over a semi guilty on shrek?

Because Shrek is also semi-innocent.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:47 am

Notice how DGB, Gamma, Roden, and Nero are all pushing the same narrative...

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:47 am

In post 2968, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2967, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2966, Nero Cain wrote:y gamma over a semi guilty on shrek?
Because Shrek is also semi-innocent.
how in the fuck

Because of Mega's claim.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:51 am

In post 2972, CheekyTeeky wrote:You believe MegA? Isn't it too convenient that MegA claims well into the day after all the crowing and comes with the only result that could clear both Shrek and themself?

I mean, that's Null, honestly.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:53 am

In post 2974, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 2877, Dwlee99 wrote:Cause if cheeky and Shrek both didn't get a result then rolestopper but you got a result. So DGB not ascetic or rolestopped?
Oooof this is so messy. If scum!mega, this result means nothing and someone could've rolestopped DGB or roleblocked cheeky (I still see roleblocking cheeky as unlikely). They could be scum partners with mega. If town!mega then Shrek and Cheeky are scum together. Else, scum!DGB?

Yup. That's pretty much it. the question is whether Cheeky is somehow covering for Shrek, and I really can't see that FMPOV.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:58 am

In post 2981, CheekyTeeky wrote:Tbh I want Shrek to be town, but I still think both MegA/Shrek are scum.

I don't. DGB has been Scummy since they brought up their claim. Now they are SURE that Shrek is Scum? Given all the other talk about Rolestopper and RB? It does not sound like DGB is interested in actually sorting Shrek but just wants to Elim them.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:03 am

In post 2984, CheekyTeeky wrote:If DGB is scum we all owe it to it to nom them after the game.

Uh, no? Because we let NKs solve this. If I die (which is likely) then it paints DGB in a bad light. If Shrek dies, then it paints DGB in a bad light. If DGB dies, then it makes Shrek look bad. If Cheeky dies, it probably does nothing, but dissuades the conversation one more day.

On another note, I think the reason that DGB took my advice to target Shrek is because of who it clears if Shrek is Scum. I would have honestly expected Town!DGB to question my methods of those clears because they are behind closed doors.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:04 am

In post 2988, Roden wrote:
In post 2982, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2981, CheekyTeeky wrote:Tbh I want Shrek to be town, but I still think both MegA/Shrek are scum.
I don't. DGB has been Scummy since they brought up their claim. Now they are SURE that Shrek is Scum? Given all the other talk about Rolestopper and RB? It does not sound like DGB is interested in actually sorting Shrek but just wants to Elim them.
If you think DGB is scum then why do you want to vote Gamma?

Because I think the NK will implicate DGB.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:09 am

In post 2993, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2991, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2984, CheekyTeeky wrote:If DGB is scum we all owe it to it to nom them after the game.
Uh, no? Because we let NKs solve this. If I die (which is likely) then it paints DGB in a bad light. If Shrek dies, then it paints DGB in a bad light. If DGB dies, then it makes Shrek look bad. If Cheeky dies, it probably does nothing, but dissuades the conversation one more day.

On another note, I think the reason that DGB took my advice to target Shrek is because of who it clears if Shrek is Scum. I would have honestly expected Town!DGB to question my methods of those clears because they are behind closed doors.
or scum NK someone else outside of that mess and we learn basically nothing
my thinking is to burn the worst claim which atp is Shrek, followed by MegA

Which just gives TPR more time to use NA.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:10 am

In post 2996, Dwlee99 wrote:Wait, Cheeky got no result. Mega claims Cheeky visited DGB. Mega has to be lying about cheeky visiting or Cheeky is lying about no result, because if Cheeky was roleblocked she can't visit DGB and if DGB was rolestopped Mega couldn't see Cheeky visiting.

Cheeky no result just means DGB didn't actually use a NA.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:11 am

In post 3002, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2947, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2944, Dragon of the West wrote:So DGB has a "guilty" in the sense that the person they targeted wasn't added to the PT. But they wouldn't know the difference between that and being blocked
Yeah, and DGB is still pushing the "Shrek is Scum" narrative that is really lacking an awareness of what has been said.
Shrek is fakeclaiming.

Based on what?

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:13 am

Gamma: Inflating post count
DGB: shady claim stuff
Roden: literally backing up everything the above say
Nero: Not being reasonable like always.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:13 am

In post 3006, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3003, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2996, Dwlee99 wrote:Wait, Cheeky got no result. Mega claims Cheeky visited DGB. Mega has to be lying about cheeky visiting or Cheeky is lying about no result, because if Cheeky was roleblocked she can't visit DGB and if DGB was rolestopped Mega couldn't see Cheeky visiting.
Cheeky no result just means DGB didn't actually use a NA.
I didn't get a no result, I got an action fail.

Okay, so then you were RB'd. Was that N1 or N2?

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:14 am

In post 3011, Dwlee99 wrote:And cheeky you claimed you got a no result. I'm confused.

Cheeky is just doing a failed gambit I think.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:15 am

In post 3014, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3009, LicketyQuickety wrote:Gamma: Inflating post count
lmfao you're still stuck on this moronic-ass point?

All these questions that lead nowhere says yes, yes I am.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:16 am

In post 3016, Dwlee99 wrote:Action failing is the same as no result I'm fivehead

It's literally not and we already discussed this.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:17 am

In post 3017, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3012, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3006, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3003, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2996, Dwlee99 wrote:Wait, Cheeky got no result. Mega claims Cheeky visited DGB. Mega has to be lying about cheeky visiting or Cheeky is lying about no result, because if Cheeky was roleblocked she can't visit DGB and if DGB was rolestopped Mega couldn't see Cheeky visiting.
Cheeky no result just means DGB didn't actually use a NA.
I didn't get a no result, I got an action fail.
Okay, so then you were RB'd. Was that N1 or N2?
N2 action fail.

So you are SURE that implicates Mega? Or just sorta sure? You have to be 100% here or it means nothing.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:19 am

In post 3021, Roden wrote:
In post 3001, Roden wrote:
In post 2992, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2988, Roden wrote:
In post 2982, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2981, CheekyTeeky wrote:Tbh I want Shrek to be town, but I still think both MegA/Shrek are scum.
If DGB is scum why would it purposely implicate itself as scum with the NK?
I don't. DGB has been Scummy since they brought up their claim. Now they are SURE that Shrek is Scum? Given all the other talk about Rolestopper and RB? It does not sound like DGB is interested in actually sorting Shrek but just wants to Elim them.
If you think DGB is scum then why do you want to vote Gamma?
Because I think the NK will implicate DGB.
Oof my part got removed.

If DGB is scum then why would it purposely implicate itself with the NK?

Because the NK would be me over DGB and that makes DGB look bad because DGB should always die before me.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:20 am

In post 3025, CheekyTeeky wrote:My target N2 was DGB so from my PoV it makes sense if Shrek visited DGB to NK them and STD protected DGB and MegA is scum with a fake claim.

I'm not asking what makes sense to you. I'm asking you about what you know for a fact.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:21 am

In post 3029, Dwlee99 wrote:Action failed is different in what way from no result?

Action failed is RB. No Result is anything else.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:29 am

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=No_result

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:33 am

In post 3062, Nero Cain wrote:isnt this like mega first game on this site? i think she just slipped up is all. If we wanted to do mega first that's fine.

What do you mean Mega FIRST? Who would be second in that world?

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:34 am

Cheeky not answering my question on what they know for a fact is ??? I don't even SR her for it, but it's weird.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:36 am

In post 3068, Nero Cain wrote:I swear to Mith LQ....

I feel like DGB wanted to target you to confirm you as Town.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:37 am

In post 3073, Dwlee99 wrote:Mega first cause it's possible Mega is roleblocker or something. Although I think Shrek is still probably scum for the no result claim?

Why when Cheeky literally had the same exact result? I just ask you to entertain the world where DGB didn't actually use a NA and see what thoughts come from that.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:41 am

In post 3077, CheekyTeeky wrote:Fine. But LQ has to stop going on about DGB being scum which Shrek flip would've put to bed.

VOTE: MegA

Cheeky... You would not get a result if DGB didn't use a NA. It does not mean that your action failed. In fact, it Shrek is Town, then this confirms that Mega is also Town. But if we lynch Mega and they flip Town, then that says nothing about DGB.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:52 am

I'm gunna apologize to DGB if the are Town, but I don't really feel that atm.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:56 am

I mean, Cheeky might as well full claim at this point...

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:58 am

If DGB didn't perform a NA and is Scum then it confirms Shrek, Cheeky, and Mega being Town.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:59 am

In post 3099, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3096, LicketyQuickety wrote:If DGB didn't perform a NA and is Scum then it confirms Shrek, Cheeky, and Mega being Town.
Cheeky and Mega can't both be town, dude.

Why not?

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:05 pm

Here's my thought process... Just going to say what I'm thinking.

I think DGB is Neighborizer, but I don't think they are loyal or disloyal. I'm also unsure if they are X-shot or not.

In the case DGB is Scum who did not use a NA, then Cheeky's no result, Shreks no result, and Mega seeing both Cheeky and Shrek visited DGB makes perfect sense.

Without knowing Cheeky's role, we don't know if one of Cheeky or Shrek is Scum in the case of Town!DGB since either of them could have rolestopped DGB.

OTOH, Cheeky could be just doing a gambit and Mega is just Scum here. If that's the case then we lynch Mega. If Cheeky actually did visit DGG then I'd like to know what they got out of Gamma on N1. It makes sense that Cheeky visited Gamma N1 so that makes me less inclined that Cheeky is just pulling a gambit. So we are back to the original point that if DGB didn't do a NA then it confirms all of Mega, Shrek, and Cheeky.

LicketyQuickety · Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:07 pm

In post 3104, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3101, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 3099, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 3096, LicketyQuickety wrote:If DGB didn't perform a NA and is Scum then it confirms Shrek, Cheeky, and Mega being Town.
Cheeky and Mega can't both be town, dude.
Why not?
There is no sequence of night actions where Cheeky visits DGB and Cheeky gets no result where mega can also see this happen, unless cheeky has an unclaimed modifier like loyal/disloyal/simple/etc. @Cheeky you don't have any modifier like that, correct?

So what does that mean if DGB didn't even do a NA? How does that tie into this?