large normal 239. game over

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: Dannflor

As a psychologist I believe Schadd's fear of bees is actually a euphemism for his stance on work culture in capitalist societies at large.

This is clearly sheepable VOTE: Dannflor

[Carcalilly]

Eh, let me know when things get serious. I’ll be back later.

We can make things serious? ;D

[Carcalilly]

Me and JV

confirmed?

[Carcalilly]

anyone give me two good reasons why I should make you a double voter and I will

[Carcalilly]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


more votes on ItalianoVD

ok

VOTE: italianovd

his reasons were pretty solid tho ngl

[Carcalilly]

I think savethedragons is mafia
No good reasons, just feeling

looks like a

TMI

to me...............

[Carcalilly]

ItalianoVD

RCEnigma

Dannflor

KittyTacky
Nero Cain
Gamma Emerald
DeasVail

SirCakez

Save The Dragons

over90
mq.bosco
Carcalilly
takotsubo syndrome
NashedPotato
Enchant

pray for the godsnipe readlist

2 of those are totally serious rn actually

Not Known 15

[Carcalilly]

ew, metagaming

[Carcalilly]

Nothing interesting. No information. Meta-talkings have no sense for me, cause I'm new. Playing with NK15. over90 & maybe Gamma.

Yeahhh I feel this too. Not new but I just came back. :/

I respect the immediate grind though, I'll trust it if it seems founded.

[Carcalilly]

ItalianoVD

RCEnigma

Dannflor

KittyTacky
Nero Cain
Gamma Emerald
DeasVail

SirCakez

Save The Dragons

over90
mq.bosco
Carcalilly
takotsubo syndrome
NashedPotato
Enchant

pray for the godsnipe readlist

2 of those are totally serious rn actually

Not Known 15

is it not strange to create such kind of list so early?
it is rather random because of your phrase "2 of those are totally serious rn actually"
can you tell more about your thought process here?
who are these two?

High-key italiano went leanscum to town within that time. Asked to make it serious and he did.
UNVOTE:
That was one of them though.

Other one is DV for the acetic comment.

Thought process was something to throw down early and reflect on later. Plus if I try it every game, maybe one day I'll get the instaguess. :p

[Carcalilly]

never played /w nero before but I'm struggling to see scum!italiano being the one to push it, feels too ballsy to me

i think you're trying to for it in a way that mafia wouldn't like why pick a fight with nero he's just going to shit on you

i think nero's energy is townie but i dunno if i really know how to read him so take that with a grain of salt, but i'm not convinced by your case

carcalilly called me scum for no reason which is weird i don't really get the TMI post either i wouldn't say no to a carcalilly wagon

I agree with all this actually. I was subconsciously sheeping over90 methinks with that list, in your case.

Don't get the TMI? Half joke half the gut-feel comment felt not-so-fully gut. I couldn't understand what kind of agenda would be pushed onto you though.

[Carcalilly]

I find it funny ppl shaded kitty for not wanting to case early and then shaded italiano for casing early. Or was it setup spec? Either way it felt a bit trigger happy there.

[Carcalilly]

Do you have anything of your own to add to this vote?

No.

VOTE: NK15

can someone pls explain the scum motive behind tako's post because like, I don't see it

[Carcalilly]

I sneaked in homes of everyone in this game, and taked sample of your salive while you sleeped to discover, who is mafia.

Analysis showed that mafia team is StD+NK15+over90+ItalianoVD.


GG, game can be closed.
VOTE: End Game

great! wanna show the dna evidence?

[Carcalilly]

Do you have anything of your own to add to this vote?

No.

VOTE: NK15

can someone pls explain the scum motive behind tako's post because like, I don't see it

After isoing I'm still really confused, either they're blatantly contradicting themselves or just don't understand what metagaming is. "I'm not metagaming" is a really weird hill to die on.

If your reason for a read is because 'this person is just like this', that's meta is it not? So the issue is that you're using it and claiming to not use it/dislike using it. That's really the only thing I'm seeing, idk if that's everyone else's reasoning. Not enough to warrant a vote from me.

[Carcalilly]

i dont like std and italianoVD more
we'd better create a wagon somewhere here

Is your std read still gut, or did something make it concrete?

[Carcalilly]

I have simple brain

If scummy I vote

idgaf who u are

[Carcalilly]

i see no reason to think that i've made a mistake, nothing much serious to discuss, but it is not just random

So is it more of a "you haven't proven to be town" kinda read? It just feels odd that you call them scum in several different occasions and yet have little to no interaction with them.

[Carcalilly]

i see no reason to think that i've made a mistake, nothing much serious to discuss, but it is not just random

So is it more of a "you haven't proven to be town" kinda read? It just feels odd that you call them scum in several different occasions and yet have little to no interaction with them.

It is hard and weird to explain my thought process about finding std as a scum, when there was almost nothing in the thread.

Ok, if I promise no judgement would you explain anyway? I may disagree but I really just wanna understand, so give me a chance yeah?

[Carcalilly]

first

more votes on you?

VOTE: Save The Dragons

these are my posts before over90 votes me

isn't it obvious why they think i'm scum

is.... that sarcasm

[Carcalilly]

@Dannflor I kinda wanna know what you think of Tako and IVD

[Carcalilly]

Gamma and Nero are in weird spots. I want to scumread gamma but I don't think anything they've done feels like gamma!scum. I hate the taco wagon but gamma doesn't jump out as the scummiest vote. I had them as townish before the wagon though so ehh.

Hate all of this it's such a fencesit

Fixed

Get all the way out of here. I'm undecided on 2 slots that have dubious connections but named 4 other slots as definitive reads. So dig a little deeper and explain why having null reads in addition to my townreads is A.) An issue and 2.) In any way scum indicative.

Your other reads are totally irrelevant
To me it looks like you made that post about taco and gamma just to leave yourself open to voting both

This almost feels like a misrep to me. Is having one or two null reads fencesitting now? Just straight up cutting the whole TR list out because it's irrelevant? Is RCE just not supposed to share their thoughts? There's little harm in the indecisiveness at this point.

[Carcalilly]

Everyone do me a favor and skim NK15's ISO and come back to me as to why they aren't the leading wagon, ty.

[Carcalilly]

This NK15 wagon feels like it exists solely because people don't like the Tako wagon

Solely? Do you think we just rolled a dice and chose someone at random? Tako is eh, but a case based off being awful at metagaming < putting someone who doesn't even seem to be trying to play the game in the spot. I doubt the entire tako wagon will did out just for this and multiwagons help the gamestate I reckon.

[Carcalilly]

"*die out", not 'did out'

[Carcalilly]

This NK15 wagon feels like it exists solely because people don't like the Tako wagon

Solely? Do you think

we

just rolled a dice and chose someone at random? Tako is eh, but a case based off being awful at metagaming < putting someone who doesn't even seem to be trying to play the game in the spot. I doubt the entire tako wagon will did out just for this and multiwagons help the gamestate I reckon.

What's the "we" doing there?

I use collective pronouns when talking about wagons. What did you think it was?

[Carcalilly]

@Nero

Just for the record, are you SRing IVD because of a poor attempt to case you, or how he backed out of engagement? What would you have expected from a town!IVD?

[Carcalilly]

I think if VD were town and actually had a scum read on me he would have continued to sit on me instead of leave at the drop of a haat.

but yes the poor case is scummy as shit too

Ngl, I saw it more as an attempt to get the game rolling from its semi-beginning state than anything else, which is why I feel alright about it. I'll admit I kinda disregarded the content of it since it seemed to me like pure metagaming which idk anything about.

Your other SRs are kitty and gamma, correct? I sorta understand your stance on kitty but your read on gamma confuses me a tad.

something about the way italiano cased nero feels off to me

I think VD is overzealous but don't think that's scum-indicative yet

you think someone is off but not that they are scum, what is this?

This comment for example, you felt the need to call out/question when I feel like you understood the sentiment.

I still rather VD or Kitty. Like I get why TS is getting wagoned and in a vacuum his post was scummy as all get out but I sorta think he's town and scum are wagoning him.

How's he not scummy in an atmosphere then?

sometimes ppl that are "scummy" still have a town pm.

[Carcalilly]

He doesn’t believe I’m scum either, it’s just easy to park here, he literally hasn’t changed his vote since pg2.

Idk man, to me it looks like he really thinks you're scum. Even though I don't particularly agree, I can recognize his reasoning for it isn't that bad.

There has been multiple players and wagons to dig into and yet he wants to stay on me, Kitty, and Gamma. He also wants to shade people for fence sitting and yet that is all he has done for anyone not named Italiano, Kitty, Gamma.

I also kinda felt this, going through nero's posts I saw a considerable lack of TRs.
@Nero who do you think is town?

[Carcalilly]

This almost feels like a misrep to me. Is having one or two null reads fencesitting now? Just straight up cutting the whole TR list out because it's irrelevant? Is RCE just not supposed to share their thoughts? There's little harm in the indecisiveness at this point.

I said RCE's post was fencesitting their other reads were not in that post so I don't understand how they keep getting pulled into this

But their other reads were in the original post 370?

DV, over90 (but in a weird way), potato, Italiano in town ranges over null.

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: Gamma

Going to just trust my vibes right now.

I don't really have a solid case for Gamma other than I just have this feeling I can't shake about them.
I know it's a scummy af vote, but at the same time it's better than non-voting.
I'm not a huge fan of the Nk15 wagon & I'm going to refuse to self-vote.

If this is a gut read, maybe at least show a few posts that pinged you in particular?

[Carcalilly]

VOTE: Gamma

Going to just trust my vibes right now.

I don't really have a solid case for Gamma other than I just have this feeling I can't shake about them.
I know it's a scummy af vote, but at the same time it's better than non-voting.
I'm not a huge fan of the Nk15 wagon & I'm going to refuse to self-vote.

If this is a gut read, maybe at least show a few posts that pinged you in particular?

I just feel like he's very passive and not as agressive. He's just here in the thread and skating by rather than actually pushing or perusing anything or anyone.

Is passive scum-indicative and aggressive town-indicative? There are other players who are not really perusing anyone either, what makes gamma your top vote out of those players?

[Carcalilly]

Again, just not a fan of Gamma at the moment. It’s going to be hard to case someone super early, but it’s just a feeling that Gamma is probably just scum.

You know, I was trying to give you a chance to like, maybe discover why you were feeling that way by asking those questions.

[Carcalilly]

y can't he just have a gut read? Why does his read have to be explained?

Eh it was less of me saying he cant have a gut read, and more of me just tryinna squeeze for bit of exploration at least. It would've been nice. :/

[Carcalilly]

y can't he just have a gut read? Why does his read have to be explained?

Yeah it’s bugging me too.

It’s odd that Lily is getting on my case for scum reading gamma.

Lily how much exp you have with Gamma?

Eh, some? I just got out of a game with him and he's playing essentially the same way, and he was town that game so

[Carcalilly]

sorry I've been kinda head out of it

can someone give me a small pointer on whats happened and I'll get off my ass and check it ty ty

[Carcalilly]

UNVOTE:

i have also been lurking, i may replace out, if its not too much of a hassle. otherwise i can try to pull up.