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Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:22 am

Why did you unvote Dann if he's still a scum read?

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:37 am

In post 4099, obscure wrote:is there anything mechanical i should know that's good or bad for anyone?

im p sure datsi is a bot

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:51 am

I think/thought HEM was town b/c I attacked HEM day 1 over his readlist and VP was parroting me.

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:58 am

I felt like HEM's attacks on me d1 were weak sauce. I think the guy is just busy IRL but I can see how him doing shit all and then coming in every once inawhile with "catch me up" or some fluffy post could be easily seen as scum and maybe it is?

lemme check the Ari bible to see how she was reading him.

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:59 am

In post 2262, Aristeia wrote:Probably Good:

Gamma, HEM, Nero, Frogster, GuiltyLion, Obscure, xof,

that's going to be a hard pass from me, dawg

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:01 am

I'd be willing to kill Gamma

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:09 am

I don't have reads anymore but i'd kill scamper
Gamma Emerald
Dannflor
marcistar
enchant

with no questions asked

fireisredsir
Thestatusquo
Frogsterking
DeasVail

are slots that I'm suspicious of

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:12 am

(Ari's reads aren't a bible and I'm being facetious.)

I could be wrong on HEM or anyone and maybe im not super concerned over who we flip

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:21 am

In post 4129, Ausuka wrote:Because scamper is the kind of player who can sweep games and putting himself on a timer like that is just super super strange play

Do you know who is main is or something? I am growing increasingly suspicious of his claims that alot of this game is noise. And im tunneling Dann, and he's defending Dann so I'm like

I think its not impossible that Scamper bales out Dats as a TMI read but yeah...I can understand what you mean. Although one small girl from the UK tunneling Dats doesn't really seem like he needed to do that? It's just my gut reaction to "noise" claim b/c I think thats super untrue and I hate him doing that. We'll see how things go

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:22 am

so maybe scamper is more backburner than kill without question

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:25 am

yeah, i am very short

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:28 am

I could be wrong. Remember I'm town and my reads are very very bad.

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:35 am

Who is in the town core, frog?

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:36 am

Also I'm going to lim you d3 if you haven't done my psych profile yet

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:38 am

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:45 am

NOISE!!!!

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:48 am

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:48 am

though I've always enjoyed

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:54 am

I forgot what my Myers-Briggs thing was.

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:40 am

or we could CFD Gamma

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:43 am

You were the one that said you had questions, Marci

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:46 am

I mean, look, I did/do think HEM is a lil' town b/c of the interaction I pointed out but I mean....yeah his latest posting is pretty bad. If you want to argue that's from scum, sure.

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:49 am

In post 3782, marcistar wrote:theres sumn i wanna see with smart first

my bad, you said that about SS not Dann

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:52 am

they are saying that you not talking about the game id you not wanting to give info away

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:54 am

I mean, yeah you can kinda see that b/c you haven't posted much about your thoughts/feelings.hopes/dreams but then you just replaced in so I don't think its really that odd.

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:56 am

like I'm just going to hammer any of SS/Obscure/TSQ or put them @ L-1 so Enchant will

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:06 am

you were the only one pushing Dats at that point right? Is it really worth outting yourself over a wagon that was prob never going to happen?

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:07 am

In post 4250, fireisredsir wrote:i think further speculation isn't super useful and we can treat them both as town for now and trust that they know what they're doing, and sort it out later if we have to

sure

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:12 am

ppl I think are town for various shitty reasons

DeasVail
ydrasse
Datisi
humaneatingmonkey
Ausuka
GuiltyLion

ppl that I'm suspicious of for various shitty reasons

scamper
fireisredsir
Frogsterking

ppl that I don't care about

Something_Smart
obscure
Thestatusquo

ppl that I'd snipe

Gamma Emerald
Dannflor
marcistar
enchant

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:15 am

VOTE: gamma

since it worked so well last game

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:15 am

In post 4266, Ausuka wrote:wait you townread me?

should I not?

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:18 am

In post 4267, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4265, Nero Cain wrote:

ppl that I'm suspicious of for various shitty reasons

scamper
fireisredsir
Frogsterking

ppl that I'd snipe

Gamma Emerald
Dannflor
marcistar
enchant
what is different between these groups?

I want the bottom group dead like ASAP and the other group not dead yet

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:26 am

thats not what that means at all.

You were scum last game we played annd I was tunneling so rando townie, got no traction and then flipped you.

Where do you get off saying that a vote on you is some venge vote that means I don't want to play with you? It's like you are trying to villainize me.

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:29 am

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:34 am

In post 4279, Thestatusquo wrote:I get the feeling that nero ends up tunneling random townies a lot

is what it was @, not you.

though I wasn't yelling @ Kerset. I just didn't know what he meant and it was humorous FMPOV to say don't give you hugs. It was also kinda OGI to bring it up.

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:36 am

yes, HEM should at least claim, not very good situational awareness here.

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:40 am

p sure it was and like...I'd like to hear more from deas and SS and....just yuck.

I'm voting Gamma b/c I think he's scum and I just really hate that he's trying to frame my vote on him as some kind of personal attack on him.

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:45 am

Well I'm also ascribing some scum motivation here b/c putting HEM @ L-1 and effectively ending the day (I assume that Enchant hammers) was not a townie play

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:48 am

I just find

Ate

inherently scummy. I hated when Dann did it, I hated when Gamma did it, I hated when TSQ. I am so full of hate.

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:50 am

In post 4303, Gamma Emerald wrote:While I'm at it, I feel like you only ever don't push me when you have an agenda anyway

is this calling me scum? Also I've been pushing your slot the whole game so when was I never pushing you?

or maybe I'm not getting it.

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:51 am

god I hope dats isn't scum

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:56 am

In post 4311, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm saying it seems like the only times you ever DON'T push me is when you're scum

I mean, ok sure but I don't see what that has to do with anything

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:03 pm

In post 4302, Datisi wrote:hot take: gamma and hem are both scum, this is a bluff to stop the wagon while not looking like shit from defending hem

Gamma is scum and put HEM @ L-1 with a guy known to hammer to end the day before the wagon ends up on him.

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:09 pm

sure guy but you've been doing a whole ton of nothing.

Why should I or anyone be town reading you? I mean ppl ARE town reading you b/c tone or something but that seems like silly reasoning to me.

also trying to end the day with a week left on the clock is kinda

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:16 pm

I think this is getting slightly not about the game so Ima spoil this. Don't read it if you're not Gamma!

Spoiler:

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:19 pm

you could also stop being a dick

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:22 pm

but its between me and Gamma, you are clearly sticking your nose into business that doesn't involve you just so you can attack me. In fairness I should I have jut pmed Gamma

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:36 pm

Should HEM still claim?

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:40 pm

ok, I guess HEM should claim then

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:52 pm

Deas do you have a full reads list and if so would you like to show the class?

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:55 pm

I'm kinda meh on HEM reasoning.

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:59 pm

I refuse to be on the same line with TSQ. Move on of us down.

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:05 pm

now watch scum be dats, fire, and scamper lol

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:07 pm

yes, TY DV

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:29 pm

if not dats or enchant prob will. Any final reads or anything in case it was?

Nero Cain · Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:32 pm

In post 4271, Ausuka wrote:if you did indeed do that i'd like you to say why it changed, yeah

I did say that but I'm just all over the place right now. I came into this day with a set idea of who I thought was scum/who I thought was town (I guess maybe it hasn't changed THAT much but things are grayer now.) and now my belief system is shook.

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:19 am

gut still thinks HEM is town but I can understand why ppl think he's scum.

VOTE: Dannflor

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:04 am

In post 4521, Enchant wrote:Sooooooooooooo what i miss

Why do you even sign up?

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:06 am

In post 4459, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
Frogsterking and
Nero maybe whiteknight

I'm angling to take that white knight title from Dann.

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:09 am

In post 4459, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Nero was scumreading me before

sorry for playing so poorly, I'll be more static with my reads next time.

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:09 am

In post 4525, Enchant wrote:
In post 4523, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4521, Enchant wrote:Sooooooooooooo what i miss
Why do you even sign up?
But i didn't sign up, i replaced.

same thing, it was voluntary unless MS partakes in slave labor

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:24 am

who is they?

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:28 am

You enjoy playing scum right?

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:34 am

So what made you want to replace into this game?

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:36 am

Why did you want to replace into this game?

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:39 am

did you ISO xofelf b4 replacing in?

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:43 am

why would you skim her ISO?

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:46 am

you skimmed her iso in case? she was scum? wouldn't your pm tell u that...

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:50 am

dats with the save

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:52 am

I'm distancing clearly.

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:07 am

I actually don't think you HAVE to be scum, but you could be.

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:11 am

for me, the question is whether or not VP soft defends xo when I call out their lack of content. My initial reaction was that they were town b/c Deas also attacked me for calling out XO and I thought VP doubling up on Deas' bad push meant those 2 were likely town.

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:12 am

i'd still kill you though.

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:15 am

I mean, it's possible. I still feel like he was active lurking a bit and not contributing in any meaningful way.

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:19 am

gamma

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:25 am

TBF, the last time I was pushed town Gamma he said exactly that. I'm worried that he's just scum that's trying to elicit an emotional response and mimic his town game.

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:26 am

hence why its a gambit and like lvl 1 play

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:45 pm

if I could intervene and translate...

Frog is basically saying that Eirlox not being try hardy or verbose is not like his town meta and is deducing that he is scum.

Scamper is saying that b/c there's not a scum game as evidence that Frog can't make that determination.

If I had to pick a side I'd side with Frog b/c I think Samper is being overly rigid and I think Frog's thought process is pretty normal here

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:58 pm

I'll dig and link the game if I need to but in random game XYZ player C does shit all for the entire game and barely posts. He was town, in game BCA player C is active as fuck. Your hero, Nero Cain, calls player c scum. Player C flips scum. I think not playing to your normal play can be a decent indicator of alignment.

That's why you see Ari and all kinds of others call me out for "not playing like town Nero" not that any of them were ever right but they at least understand what it could mean.

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:59 pm

I could totes see eir troll post and then replace out as scum.

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:02 pm

I think Fire got culted b/c she's full of kool-aid

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:05 pm

tbh, I disagree with the incompetent claim but I think the d1 lurking it out until conman died is accurate.

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:06 pm

I feel like I'm Watson to Frogs Sherlock

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:32 pm

Fire, why aren't you more suspicious of me?

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:47 pm

eh...if you voted him dude would hammer. I'd like to at least get the post up I'm working on.

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:57 pm

last game you tried to lim me for pushing scum. Your reasoning was that I bus as scum thus I must be scum. Why did my VP push not warrant the same reaction?

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:59 pm

or were you just sheeping Ari and saying that I'm too incompetent to find scum?

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:04 pm

In post 4650, fireisredsir wrote:i did??? i don't remember this

i thought i mostly found you towny

I mean, you did town read me the entire game but when we started pushing Titus you turned around and accused me of being scum.

I could maybe buy that you've grown in the last 2 oe 3 months but it was just bothering me is all.

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:07 pm

*6 months ago

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:16 pm

but im whiteknighting HEM. If he townflips are you gonna flip on me again?

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:25 pm

Ima leave it in my wall anyways, don't care if its outdated lol

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:56 pm

In post 4450, fireisredsir wrote:mm then again ig scum dann would probably be making a specific effort to have a trajectory of paranoia on me

and it's maybe kinda weird how quickly he backed off when i don't think i really did anything that would defuse the paranoia he had

Why would scum Dann be specifically "paranoid" of you?

Maybe I didn't pay attention well or it was a "blink and you'll miss it" moment but I don't really remember Dann talking much about you.

In post 4458, humaneatingmonkey wrote:I think shea looks worst out of this

shea always looks bad and I'd still vote him out.

In post 4486, Dannflor wrote:I agree with everything fire just said

I wonder why!

I hard disagree with the notion that scum are more likely to be off wagon and white knighting him than the ones killing him. And like, Dann can be scum, sure. SS. maybe. Marci, maybe although lately, I've been thinking that she might just be noise and not scum but could still maybe be scum.

In post 2535, T3 wrote:ConManMick (11): Ydrasse,
Aristeia
, Irrelephant11, Ausuka, Datisi, scamper, Gamma Emerald, humaneatingmonkey, DeasVail,
VP Baltar
,
ConManMick

In post 4441, T3 wrote:humaneatingmonkey (9): scamper, GuiltyLion, fireisredsir, Ydrasse, Thestatusquo, Gamma Emerald, Datisi, DeasVail, Enchant

I'm just assuming that's what a potential HEM lim wagon might look like.

You guys really going to sit there and tell me that there's one scum on between both ml wagons?

Scamper, Gamma, TSQ slot, Dats, YD, and Deas (if he were to go back) would all look horrible and at the very least I wouldn't trust the same core group that pulled off a shitty con wagon to find scum d2 or 3.

now watch him flip scum and I look like a fool.

In post 4573, Ausuka wrote:Ok but I'd like to you elaborate? Why am i suddenly town now

I'm all over the place.

In post 2081, Nero Cain wrote:Ausuka-I'm worried about a thing or two but can be town for now

Was my d1 reads list, I'm clearly not hard scum reading you and I liked your calling for a vig on VP.

I believe in my relly stuff. I think he looks horrible and I didn't take kindly to you just hand waving it away. I mean, sure maybe it was a mistake but I don't see why he couldn't make that mistake as scum. I think it actually makes MORE sense to make that mistake as scum b/c as scum alot of people prob just skim and don't pay close enough attention.
If relly/Shea were to flip scum do you think you'd look good? Maybe it's me putting the cart before the horse but going "hrmmmm" is a pretty reasonable reaction to someone poo pooing your scum read. I clearly wasn't hard scumreading you or ever voted you and you are way down my totem pole.

RE 4579 : hard disagree that those are examples of Marci "sorting"

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:40 pm

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:51 am

I would argue that Enchant being able to use words isn't town tell. Like he's not some Vi that's incapable of showing a pulse

In post 362, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 199, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 187, xofelf wrote:Making my semi-yearly mafia appearance with a playerlist I'm pretty excited about.
While its great to hear from you it would have been much better if you talked about the first 8 pages.
You going to be this annoying all game or just play mafia?

can I get some opinions on this? Is this VP defending a buddy or white knighting town?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:37 am

y would scum join the other wagons but not yours?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:38 am

or nevermind, i read that wrong, i think

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:41 am

in general though, I think most ppl feel like they are getting attacked by scum when then are getting wagoned so I guess it is a little strange that he doesn't feel like that.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:47 am

In post 4670, T3 wrote:humaneatingmonkey (7): scamper, GuiltyLion, fireisredsir, Ydrasse, Thestatusquo, Gamma Emerald, Datisi
---------------------------------------------
Dannflor (2): Frogsterking, Nero Cain
Thestatusquo (2): humaneatingmonkey, Enchant
Gamma Emerald (1): Dannflor
DeasVail (1): obscure
Not voting (4): Something_Smart, marcistar, Ausuka, DeasVail

this is pretty old so it's likely that this isn't accurate

I agree with you that there's likely scum in the people being useless with thier votes but I think its a little bizarre that you don't think scum aren't attacking you. Are you not town or something?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:51 am

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:53 am

ngl, I'm a lil' sick of HEM this game and was agreeing with Ausuka that he shouldn't reach endgame

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:57 am

In post 4703, humaneatingmonkey wrote:the momentum on me died

this never happened, that's why you are STILL the leading wagon. Deas unvoted b/c Enchant is going to hammer you. (we assume) although he's town reading you, I think.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:00 am

and then you said you'd be free the 14th but now you say the 15th b/c you rather spend time with your girl (which is fine and understandable) but its frustrating to me that you aren't playing the game and you are the leading vote getter and you are holding things up

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:02 am

that you not shoot me

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:09 am

HEM is scum that fake claims vig b/c we know one exists (unless we wanna argue sk)?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:13 am

Whats wrong with SKs?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:14 am

Where elsewhere?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:15 am

mutiball is 2 scum teams, 1 scum team + SK isn't

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:19 am

I mean, it was obvious that he was hinting pr. I think its possible that he could just be mafia that's fakeclaiming bullets though, I dunno.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:21 am

but HEM says he's goinna shot obscure, id he doesn't then just string up both?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:25 am

leashing HEM makes sense IMO b/c if he's scum then he can't argue that he killed ????? b/c he wasn't leashed. Observe kill or GTFO

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:27 am

im worried that scum are him and GL and if we "leash HEM" then they are forced to kill not who they want to tonight.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:33 am

I sorta think HEM is scum now and my d1 read was correct and VP's piggybacking off of my attack of HEM was maybe not clearing after all. + I felt like the fast wagon on him + no push elsewhere meant scum were content with the gamestate

but if he's an SK/second faction all this makes a ton more sense

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:36 am

I actually rather vote out the empty gamma slot and have obscure vigged like HEM agreed to.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:44 am

In post 4823, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 4819, Nero Cain wrote:I actually rather vote out the empty gamma slot and have obscure vigged like HEM agreed to.
Why would you prefer to vig that slot we can't interact with?

obscure can talk? If you meant my suggestion that we run up an empty Gamma slot then my thinking here is, someone is going to replace into Gamma right? Why shoot that? Whats the difference between running up Gamma and having that slot get vigged. Getting ran up people at least have to take stances and I still think his HEM vote was pretty scummy given that he was trying to hurry up the HEM lim after he got wagoned.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:48 am

super unpopular opinion: marci's attack on Gamma was a light bus and that's why he felt "betrayed"

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:56 am

did you object to the marci vig?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 7:18 am

tbf it's not like Marci had been tunneling Gamma all d1, just briefly there @ then end of d1 and that, to me at least, felt like some distancing.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 7:25 am

maybe im misremembering.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 7:28 am

So who do ppl want to kill if we are no longer doing HEM?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:14 am

y not? didn't you say that you didn't care about dying this game?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:20 am

who would you vig if you had the power?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:21 am

In post 4886, marcistar wrote:i kinda dont wanna go out to a vig tho lol

What's the difference between going out via vig and getting limmed?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:34 am

you can claim b4 you get vigged. If we are limming X and vigging Marci then its basically a double elim.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:35 am

claim marci?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:43 am

idk, idc. HEM is going to vig you tonight so its up to you if you want.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:47 am

a vig that doesn't care about living? eh

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:49 am

how so?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:51 am

In post 4909, marcistar wrote:i thought he was the other vig LMAO

me 2

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:55 am

can we just kill the empty gamma slot b4 we out more TPRs? Who is HEMs new target?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 8:55 am

oh yeah obscure

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:14 am

I THINK enchant is just being a troll. Marci/HEM are claiming dual vigs.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:22 am

I lowkey think scum are just scamper, Dannflor, GuiltyLion, and Gamma/TSQ were TSTBS. I don't really have a case and I don't care if anyone follows me nor do I have the patience/will to discuss this but if it's right then endgame cred.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:25 am

too scummy to be scum

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:28 am

aren't u a vig?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:29 am

VOTE: obscure

I'm not really sure if he's scum but I think a guy that is barely playing is a decent lim and im sorta sick of the game now

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:32 am

In post 4955, Thestatusquo wrote:Its so weird that you think I'm scum but your reads on the game keep lining up with mine.

is this at me? Who are we scum reading together besides Gamma? Do you not know what too scummy to be scum means?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:33 am

In post 4954, marcistar wrote:yes and?

if you have bullets why do you need to ask permission to kill dats?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:36 am

I mean, my 538 posts basically makes me an IC.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:38 am

y is GL a vig?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:39 am

you guys know the night is never going to end until Gamma slot is filled

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:06 am

SS hasn't done shit

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:25 am

I mean, yeah it's possible. Like I agree that he's not doing much and he could be scum, I just sorta felt like VP piggybacking on DV's shit push on me made him sorta town, idk.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:42 am

idk guy, you seem pretty trolly as town and doing a content wall seemed? Like people were saying that you are town for it but I looked at a town game or two and I don't really think it adds up.

+ I think Fire is right and you/Deas could just be scum. Was also vibing earlier with Dats calling you scum for popping up in the thread.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:49 am

oh hi Deas. I didn't think we said your name 3 times but maybe we did?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:32 am

man I hate those pesky history lessions

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:37 am

lesions are not though

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:55 am

In post 5067, marcistar wrote:yall sumn stinks in here

sorry for to use deodorant today

do you have any new thoughts on the game?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:25 pm

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:27 am

counter argument: I'm wildly townread and a push on my would go nowhere and he'd eventually get heat for it. If he's scum im not the path of least resistance. Giving me a superficial town read seems like something scum would do to deescalate the situation.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:02 pm

I didn't and in a way still don't really think obscure was scum. I think it's not hard to get "he's not here and being proactive and he only shows up when we call him thus he's lurk scum." so I don't really like whoever said they didn't know why obscure was getting wagoned. Dann right? At this point, I'm up for killing anything that's not contributing.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:26 pm

frog please use post tags

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:29 pm

In post 5127, Thestatusquo wrote:What makes you think scum always or even frequently take the path of least resistance?

an intro to anthropology course I took in college
millions of years of human evolution/nature
common sense
Occam's razor
played a game or 2 on this site

like sure, I get that there will be experienced scum that can and will intentionally mispush a stronger town player just so they don't get called on pushing LHF. But scum pushing what's easy/not pushing what's hard isn't this novel concept that I just randomly came up with.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:31 pm

In post 5128, Thestatusquo wrote:I think fundamentally a problem with how nero scum hunts is he expects scum to play badly.

good/decent scum play is effectively bad town play and that's gonna be alot easier for ppl that are already bad.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:37 pm

In post 5163, Dannflor wrote:i sort of think at this point we should just kill someone who says "feel free to just off me"

Even though I think Dann is scum I p much agree with this. I mean, ofc there's a theory that says town care less about staying alive which I don't put that much stock into it buut just play or GTFO.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:44 pm

In post 5165, obscure wrote:obviously i'd prefer if we kill deas but i'm not going to be an asshole about it.

being town and pushing who you think is scum isn't asshole behavior. Ppl might get fussy b/c they feel like you are ignoring them and thier contributions and while this is a team game group think isn't great.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:34 pm

you don't know?

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:40 pm

you seem pretty useless

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:45 pm

dw feelings mutual

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:06 pm

votes a conf town right away...we shoulda killed Gamma

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:08 pm

VOTE: Morning Tweet

gamma has a history of replacing out as scum + his vote on HEM was scummy as shit

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:09 pm

I'm sorry for not being as confident and hardheaded as I should have been.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:27 pm

they aren't. wagons get built and then die. nothing is happening.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:31 pm

Did tweet disapear?

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:40 pm

so vote there?

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:47 pm

gamma tweet yeah

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:38 pm

it's not hard to ISO but I buy it anyways

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:52 pm

can I just stab everyone the doesn't link to the post?

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:59 pm

5281

post tags still work?

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:34 pm

When you are done catching up i need your reads.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:25 pm

i wasn't necessarily saying that you had to give me reads tonight

Nero Cain · Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:15 am

things are super fickle and sometimes I feel like ppl just follow around whoever is loud. If tweet scum flips then it's possible that some of the "gamma is town b/c tone" is a scum defending him. Here's to hoping we were right.

Nero Cain · Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:30 am

tweet still has time to post and change mine/other ppls minds. But if not tweet who? I maybe should have started a Dann train instead.

Nero Cain · Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:16 am

gamma, tsq, dann

Nero Cain · Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:35 am

Morning Tweet (5): DeasVail, Nero Cain, Frogsterking, Ydrasse, Dannflor
DeasVail (4): obscure, fireisredsir, marcistar, Enchant
obscure (2):Datisi, Ausuka
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humaneatingmonkey (1): cat scratch fever
fireisredsir (1): Thestatusquo
Not voting (4): Something_Smart, GuiltyLion, scamper, morning tweet

anything below the line is a useless vote (assuming this is even correct)

I lowkey think there is scum in the not voting pile. I'm still not bullish on obscure flipping scum but I don't think he'd be a horrible flip.

Nero Cain · Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:06 am

I don't think I'm doing that?

HEM wagon isn't going to happen and I'm not all that sure that there'd be enough traction on Fire so I think that saying that 2 votes on wagons that won't happen and 4 players not even voting are being useless with their votes is a pretty accurate statement.

tweet, deas, and to a lesser extent obscure are the wagons with the most traction and thus more likely to go through. Like yes, maybe a bunch of players just up and decide to kill you or enchant or someone but I think assuming that the current wagons might happen is a statement rooted in reality.

Nero Cain · Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:12 am

I doubt anyone will vote out a soft claimed PR

Nero Cain · Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:27 am

id they are scum sure

Nero Cain · Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:25 am

inb4 Ausuka puts out some awesome case on Fire that everyone sheeps. I think she's said some scummy sounding this but I p much always feel that about her.

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:52 am

unless tweet joined and saw she was getting wagoned and was like "fuck this game" does anyone know if she fights when she is suspected/wagoned or is just like "ok then"

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:57 am

I mean TBF she hasn't even been on yet or at least hasn't posted anywhere. A do nothing SS or Enchant or both good vig shots but alot of ppl are prob good vig shots.

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:59 am

Something_Smart
Enchant
obscure

I'd add TSQ and Dann but thats more of a hero vig FMPOV

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:19 am

yeet the tweet the catchy though

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:26 am

even night FN would work well as a scum claim

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:31 am

if you hadn't read up why did you vote SS?

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:12 am

In post 5442, Enchant wrote:MAFIA WILL NEVER NK ME.

prob b/c ya'll are mafia

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:16 am

In post 5440, Ausuka wrote:Idk how much we lose by letting it live another night so I'm conflicted

Well I mean, if she were telling the truth she becomes conf town and eats a bullet and if not she helps the scum team by being able to use her power (if she has one) and gives scum another vote.

I'm ok with flipping this but if folks just wanted to CFD SS I wouldn't fuss that much

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:22 am

part of me just thinks is scum. If we let her live and she's scum she'll just claim roleblocked.

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:18 am

y not? isn't it your thing to hammer?

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:03 pm

In post 5458, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 5447, Nero Cain wrote:part of me just thinks is scum. If we let her live and she's scum she'll just claim roleblocked.
Which is a problem why?

Do you ever say anything useful?

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:11 pm

I could buy that tweet finds a 200+ page game hard to get interested in but then it's also seems like scum that doesn't want to give anything away

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 12:38 pm

stop repeating yourself. ugh

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:21 pm

In post 5500, DeasVail wrote:but gamma is pretty much the only person I’ve scumread this game with any real reasoning behind it.

I think this is bullshit, btw.

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:25 pm

like, I guess I'm not really thinking deas-gamma but you did push me and GL d1 with reasoning behind it. I dunno, if you had any reason to vote Con or f you were just there but sitting there and saying that you've been pyshing people without reasoning, seems revisionist, no?

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 2:23 pm

In post 5505, DeasVail wrote:Yeah you’re right, sorry. I was not thinking about my early suspicion of you and GL for some reason. Apologies.

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:46 pm

In post 5511, GuiltyLion wrote:I do kinda think Gamma is the type to soft a role like that

I'm not really sure where this comes from.

I'm not sure why it's so hard to get this hammered.

Nero Cain · Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:31 pm

Nero Cain · Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:04 am

I'm just assuming that tweet scum flips b/c replacing in and doing like nothing is kinda

Not impossible that she's unmotivated and salty and does nothing out of spite but we'll see

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:40 pm

I actually do not think it's impossible that TSQ reps in and pushes his scum buddy. He gets mad that he wasn't on the scumflip yesterday so he looks better?

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:04 pm

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 20, 2022 1:17 pm

gonna be disappointed if SS' scum game is to lurk and say a few dumb things. I lowkey think he's town but its an ok flip.