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Post #3130 (isolation #600) » Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:08 pm
Postby MathBlade »
In post 3129, MariaR wrote:Too has done nothing to show he's a villager besides say "I interected with Pooky" when they voted with Pooky all of D1 and gave their vote away to do nothing. Like, they're not a villager lol
Okay. I disagree with that premise.
Even if you’re right does that make Johnny town?
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3147 (isolation #601) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 5:53 am
Postby MathBlade »
Premise MariaR unlikely partners is false.
BGC/Johnny is very likely scum here.
Maria R sacrificing two shot follower for vig protection makes sense.
Toog unaligned with Cape sentence is unclear.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
BGC/Johnny also explains the Kitty kill rather thoroughly.
I suspect he’s going to flip more than 1 shot BG.
Which is pretty much a death sentence for you.
Which means your play today isn’t about getting the elim you want.
It’s about getting your last buddy through the elims.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3149 (isolation #603) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:02 am
Postby MathBlade »
The frog kill also is explained if BGC/Johnny is more than one shot.
If scum kill Not Mafia instead of Frogger then they have to contend with me collaborating with BGC with my loyal voyeur combination of Frog checks BGC and discovers he’s unlimited shots.
But if scum kill Frogger that buys Johnny time versus conf guilties.
The entire play imho of the scum team is buying time for survival.
The proper play was for you to bus Johnny hard today. I think you goofed it up Titus.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
Why does MariaR start the Pooky wagon? MariaR is the counter to likely scum.
As for Toog being unlikely scum unless with Cape is due to neighbors and overloading. If Toog was scum, Pooky and Toog voted MariaR side by side overloading.
As I said to save BGC.
The entire scum narrative looks to be save BGC as long as possible.
That’s word salad for the overloading. I have work I have no idea what you mean by that.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3153 (isolation #605) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:04 am
Postby MathBlade »
In post 3151, Titus wrote:I didn't goof anything up Math. I am and have been fucking right. You are just stubborn.
If you listened and looked at VCA, you'd see a scum Luke. Due all of it.
Then let’s get the scum we agree on.
If you’re town that’s surely protown right?
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3154 (isolation #606) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:11 am
Postby MathBlade »
That gives me time in peace and quiet to do more VCA right?
I can check my narrative against the facts right?
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3155 (isolation #607) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:12 am
Postby MathBlade »
Who knows maybe this is you and Luke and Johnny and some distancing ploy?
I promise to consider everything.
I’d just rather get who is most likely today.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 3151, Titus wrote:I didn't goof anything up Math. I am and have been fucking right. You are just stubborn.
If you listened and looked at VCA, you'd see a scum Luke. Due all of it.
Then let’s get the scum we agree on.
If you’re town that’s surely protown right?
I agree with that solely because Johnny cannot live to elo with a flubbed claim. I want to get your entire PoE down. Johnny is my least likely scum target. If Johnny is the second townie to mess up his claim, we go into elo with you having exactly backwards reads but for marcistar.
I feel you've concluded I am scum for not playing your way rather than looking at evidence.
You realize I am actually not working with a PoE right? I have a potential solve but that depends on Johnny flipping exactly as I think he does. Once I have facts then I can eliminate and build that PoE
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3159 (isolation #609) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:20 am
Postby MathBlade »
I have premises that lead to conclusions.
If premises are wrong (see prior post) address where and how they are.
Otherwise my reads don’t change
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3160 (isolation #610) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:21 am
Postby MathBlade »
In post 3158, Titus wrote:And if Johnny flips bodyguard scum and Frogsterking was shot for his reads?
That’s highly unlikely.
NM was an unlimited shot cop. Let me grab Frogger’s last reads
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
That scum team for the most part lurks. A surprise wagon on lurker Greeting would bring a lot of heat and be town driven and Pooky plops on.
Pooky isn’t one to do something without believing it helps him town or scum.
So since Pooky thought switching from BGC to greeting despite it 4 and 4 and both being town in that world.
That doesn’t add up to me.
I'm feeling a Pooky+Dragons+furtive+BCG scum team right about now.
VOTE: furtive
Pooky and BGC scum is likely. That’s where me and Frogger agreed.
Furtive was false.
Dragons is possible.
But not killing Frog leads to BGC guilty via mechanics for voyeur.
So even if you wish to maintain the unlikely world Frogger was killed by reads alone BGC/Johnny is still the play. Even more so.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
If premises are wrong (see prior post) address where and how they are.
Otherwise my reads don’t change
How did your read change based on marcistar town? It feels like you're going down the same path rather than reviewing. I mean this in more confbias than effort.
My read on marcistar changed because I have evidence NM didn’t visit and is town?
Considering Pooky not saved it’s unlikely Marci scum
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
If premises are wrong (see prior post) address where and how they are.
Otherwise my reads don’t change
How did your read change based on marcistar town? It feels like you're going down the same path rather than reviewing. I mean this in more confbias than effort.
My read on marcistar changed because I have evidence NM didn’t visit and is town?
Considering Pooky not saved it’s unlikely Marci scum
Right...but you solve based on wholisitic factors. You had to have wrong premises leading you to that conclusion that I couldn't break you of. What were those wrong premises? Who put them in your ear?
You're talking about reanalyzing but it's not there.
Correct. I did mess up on D2. As established I was the idiot. I am not scum. I was remembering a time where Covid had my brain fizzled incorrectly. Eliminating my brain is dumb. As a precaution I worked with NM in case my Pooky read was wrong.
On D3, i was working towards establishing how scum break the hold NM and BGC would have on the game. This lead me to the either or of Marci/BGC scum. Based on how the game was going Marci seemed like the better guess combined with her claim being the usual mafia inno (I was thinking Enchant might be a GS there). So I figured it important to pressure and check her, but again added the failsafe.
There’s no nefarious planter here. It’s me planning for one way and failsafing
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3166 (isolation #614) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:42 am
Postby MathBlade »
In other words assume BGC town.
If Gamma claimed D1 and said a random player. BGC guards NM. NM gets off a check. 1 conf alignment
N2 Marci docs Gamma. NM gets off another check. 2 conf alignment
N3 NM checks a third person << finally dies. 3 conf alignment
Scum would be attempting to shoot NM all three nights. Voyeurs like me never claim.
You’d be looking at d4 with half the scum team dead with no defense.
Ergo Marci and BGC can’t both be town.
That’s where my head is at.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3169 (isolation #615) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:47 am
Postby MathBlade »
In post 3167, Titus wrote:But the proper approach IMO, is to use the breaking and let scum mess up. Unless you and Enchant are scum together, we confirmed Enchant voyuered and verified your role.
If we would have all targeted Luke, we would have gotten a scum death.
If I hadn't, you would have seen a random investigative and might have concluded that someone was lying scum.
Accepting the advantage we had was the proper play. Either you hate my analysis because it's me or you had people in your ear to save Luke.
Look at Frogsterking's last read post.
These are words but do not make sense.
I did what I feel the proper approach was.
It seems to have caught Johnny and the more you resist what the whole game asks for you.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
That scum team for the most part lurks. A surprise wagon on lurker Greeting would bring a lot of heat and be town driven and Pooky plops on.
Pooky isn’t one to do something without believing it helps him town or scum.
So since Pooky thought switching from BGC to greeting despite it 4 and 4 and both being town in that world.
That doesn’t add up to me.
I'm feeling a
Pooky+Dragons
+furtive+
BCG
scum team right about now.
VOTE: furtive
The bolded is why Frogsterking was shot. Not mech.
It’s possible but I doubt it.
It would have been to scum’s advantage to assume me and Frog keep fighting.
The only way to find out is see Johnny’s flip
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3171 (isolation #617) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:52 am
Postby MathBlade »
Like literally Enchant just claims.
He said he had a guilty. It’s not a 100% guilty but probable.
There’s no missing invest Titus.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
He said he had a guilty. It’s not a 100% guilty but probable.
There’s no missing invest Titus.
I didn't say there was. I said you would have pushed Enchant as scum because a wild invest appeared if I hadn't checked him
I gtg
Uhm no?
I literally said today I wouldn’t? You’re inventing a narrative
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 3024, Titus wrote:Math, you should confirm whether or not you got a result.
I agreed to enchant’s plan. I will wait until others have claimed.
Enchant's claim details you outing your result after everyone claims. It doesn't state whether you claim you got one. You should as it would limit fake claiming no?
I said my target yesterday.
If I state whether or not I have a result it tells others what to claim or not claim.
The order exists for a reason.
C’mon sis.
Enchant was always claiming voyeur on that slot.
I knew it wasn’t a hard guilty and Enchant said as much in day open.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3176 (isolation #620) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:30 am
Postby MathBlade »
In post 3014, Enchant wrote:Titus should state my role after everyone else claim and confirm action. Afterwards, i tell on who i have guilty.
MathBlade will be more or less confirmed by stating results afterwards, so skipped for now.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
Game's basically in marci+Enchant hands now if you still won't listen.
Nah. I literally see it. Enchant claimed double before today and gave me stink eye telling me Enchant was voyeur.
You literally did a useless check,
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
I am starting from what we know:
Certain roles exist
Assuming scum have a chance at winning
Therefore then making conclusions off
Should I start from lies or things possible to be false?
That sounds like a bad way to get reads and leads to issues like where I assume Pooky town.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
I don't think talking about these conclusions makes sense now, before we look at flip of Johhnny. I believe regardless what flip, we can realise what happens and make right choice, right now is kinda useless talk.
I would more likely to ask Marci about mind, because Marci will die like 99% and then move on, unless you have really strong reasoning why we should't go Johhnny.
And that’s what I am saying too.
Titus continues to push me to demand a Luke scumread now.
Which since we are elimming Johnny there’s like no reason to try to hero solve.
I can analyze based on how Johnny flips.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 3184, MathBlade wrote:Which since we are elimming Johnny there’s like no reason to try to hero solve.
It's not a hero solve to use the time we're given. I want to hear your thoughts on Luke without you actually saying I'm scum/bad.
That's not hero solving.
My thoughts are I don’t care since I can only elim one player today.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3202 (isolation #626) » Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:32 pm
Postby MathBlade »
That’s require three scum back to back to back which imho is a bad idea.
I do think Titus should be forced to visit Marci though.
Mainly since Marci is the obvious kill I want to voyeur Marci again and see if Titus has any “extras”.
And then whoever is doing the kill then can’t be Titus which will help narrow shit down.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 3188, Cape90 wrote:I wish I knew if Johnny's claim on one shot loyal BG is verifiable since I was just one-shot loyal BG, but I literally went on town and not mafia
I think the only thing close to it being verifiable would be to force titus to target johnny, but if Titus is scum it does not mean very much, and would require both of them to be allowed to live through the day
In post 3044, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Ok, so I'm a 1-shot loyal bodyguard. I was unclear on if I still had my shot because it failed when chungo targeted Pooky.
I thought that meant I'd still have the opportunity to use it properly since I didn't actually guard any bodies, but I was mistaken. I didn't have an action to take last night
I was referring to this claim in particular
Mainly I think there’s just too much chaos around the slot. I don’t see a way that through mass claim we’d almost auto win if Johnny is town. I think it’s much more valuable to force Titus not to kill. If we elim Johnny then Titus visit someone and I force visit then if Titus is scum, scum PRs won’t be active if I follow the setup.
I don’t trust Titus to tell the truth.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3213 (isolation #628) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:13 am
Postby MathBlade »
In post 3207, Enchant wrote:What benifit of visiting marci who is most likely not lying about role (due being town), instead of anyone else?
Scum are likely going to kill Marci. Barring a ninja mod that will count as a visit.
Titus visits Marci. This is a visit.
Voyeur sees all visits.
If Titus is a combined X + rolecop then I see that as a voyeur as Titus would rolecop and X.
If the scum killing is combined killer and Y then I see X and Y as actions.
It’s a way to figure out a way to trust Titus. Between Johnny’s likely red flip and if any “extras” tells me who scum are. If there happens to be another doubled up protective who saves Marci even better.
I don’t trust her to tell the truth on Johnny as I think they are aligned. Going with the Titus checks Johnny and I voyeur Johnny means that Titus says whatever she wants and we likely elim town today and then have to elim scum only the rest of the game.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3214 (isolation #629) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:14 am
Postby MathBlade »
In post 3208, MariaR wrote:I'm sad this game turned into mech city over mafia and that's why I'm basically sitting here and waiting.
That’s very suspicious to me as I remember you being in mech conversations in the past.
Yes this turned mech heavy but the mech is important this game. Mafia is social + mech
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3216 (isolation #630) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:17 am
Postby MathBlade »
In post 3209, marcistar wrote:not what i was going to say before, but if you guys are both town no matter when scum gets taken down the others will just let you leave because of the arguing causes enough thread noise to hide in such a "mechanical" game since you guys cant seem to get along.
so the town should stop step back from this fight for awhile. the town in you needs to be the bigger person if neither of you are getting eliminated today.
I think that doesn’t happen for scum.
Me Enchant and you are a hard confirmed block.
As close to Elo as we are scum have to keep killing in this block to have a chance.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3218 (isolation #631) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:34 am
Postby MathBlade »
Extra scum visit Marci because unless Titus is multitasking Marci won’t die otherwise.
I can voyeur her somewhere else but it’s suboptimal as we expect scum to have two PRs. If Titus is town then we need what PR they are.
If we go somewhere else I have to decide between getting possible information on scum or if Titus is a rolecop.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3219 (isolation #632) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:49 am
Postby MathBlade »
The problem I have is I feel if Johnny flips red we’re almost locked into a Titus elim barring something innoing her
But the smart play is to have me always visit Marci
Each time I look at it I keep getting Titus scum.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 3218, MathBlade wrote:Extra scum visit Marci because unless Titus is multitasking Marci won’t die otherwise.
Well, unless Titus multitasking, Titus can't use rolecop AND kill. Makes sense.
So if Titus visits someone else (who ideally would be good rolecop check, so it's not wasted) and you vouyer someone else, then you still know Titus visited them, unless scum somehow fake that (which i hardly see possible).
So i think, Marci visit is not superiour and is actually harmful.
That’s one option.
However we lose out on a lot more if I don’t voyeur Marci.
Because we know that it’s very likely scum will be visiting her then we get information on scum.
Eg if it’s just a kill action then we get info scum have a goon (or someone who can’t multitask)
It’s either A) I check Titus and give up information on scum and likely she is still scum anyway
Or B) I can get some limited information on scum but Titus is still scum
It’s lose lose.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3222 (isolation #634) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:42 am
Postby MathBlade »
If you insist on it then we can elim Johnny then Titus announces who she is checking and I can voyeur there but it’s suboptimal
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 3221, MathBlade wrote:
Because we know that it’s very likely scum will be visiting her then we get information on scum.
Like "killing action performed on marci"?
Oh no how we can miss that info.
You jest but if Titus is town then we likely have another scum PR out there. One that might be unable to use it’s power to avoid detection.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 3221, MathBlade wrote:
Because we know that it’s very likely scum will be visiting her then we get information on scum.
Like "killing action performed on marci"?
Oh no how we can miss that info.
You jest but if Titus is town then we likely have another scum PR out there. One that might be unable to use it’s power to avoid detection.
So if Titus is town, there's can be another scum PR, but instead of searching it, let's force Titus to stick on Marci.
galaxic
You’re so close to what the problem is it’s infuriating
If Titus is scum => Titus should not be able to do as she wishes as she’s likely rolecop + stuff.
If Titus is town => Titus should be able to act however she wishes
Scum likely kill Marci
If I am known to voyeur the slot they either have to send a goon or not use powers. If Titus is town then a scum with powers likely exists.
So in order to let a widely read scum player get a check off I have to act suboptimally and scum do whatever.
That’s just not ideal.
Titus needs to be trustworthy today and I don’t see that happening.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3227 (isolation #637) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:28 am
Postby MathBlade »
Can you really tell me someone who is actively advocating for not elimming their scumread is town?
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3228 (isolation #638) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:31 am
Postby MathBlade »
What I find most likely is that it’s Johnny Titus and one of Luke/Cape
Titus is setting up a bus (because she has to) in order to go deep.
It’s just a matter of which. She doesn’t want to elim Johnny today because she wants us to guess all three correctly in a row.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3233 (isolation #639) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:51 pm
Postby MathBlade »
First question: yes.
Then if “something else” comes up on the first case Titus then knows that there’s a scum PR that exists that did the kill. This means the vanillas did not do the kill that she already checked. It also leads towards a soft inno on the vanilla checks as if they had a vanilla kill they’d probably use it.
The “something else” just on Titus’s target that is not Marci means scum can kill with whoever and however they wish.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3234 (isolation #640) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:52 pm
Postby MathBlade »
(Yes I wrote this as Titus town because I am trying desperately to see her town I just can’t)
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3235 (isolation #641) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:53 pm
Postby MathBlade »
At this point I kinda want to see the red flip of Johnny so that way can get Titus tomorrow so my give a fucks are fading fast the way she’s rewriting history.
Titus pick who you’re checking that’s not Marci so I can do the mechanically bad voyeur so I can elim you tomorrow please
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3236 (isolation #642) » Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:55 pm
Postby MathBlade »
I am getting fed up at arguing with the thread about what is mechanically right despite being proven right twice in a row now. So let’s do the wrong thing and move on.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3248 (isolation #644) » Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:17 am
Postby MathBlade »
It was more scum denial than likely more info.
Denying scum with their limited options usually seems better to me. Like I am tired of arguing about it here.
@Titus —> Cape
Goal here is when Johnny flips as I think he will you have to confirm Cape as VT as I think he’s town.
Then you have a very narrow pool of miselims Maria/Toog to hunt for this other PR your solve will need for balance.
I don’t think you can pitch a team that works setupwise that doesn’t have you.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3253 (isolation #645) » Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:01 am
Postby MathBlade »
Johnny is hammered just waiting on flip
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
Titus has no additional mods assuming she’s the only one who visited. Working.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3260 (isolation #647) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:47 pm
Postby MathBlade »
Based on setup spec has to be Titus or MariaR plus one of the vanillas. Maybe even both.
I don’t see two shot follower + 1 shot BG against this amount of power.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
Titus has no additional mods assuming she’s the only one who visited. Working.
By mods I mean no additional actions I swear I can type
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3269 (isolation #649) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 4:54 pm
Postby MathBlade »
In post 3264, Titus wrote:Can we not blow our last miselimination on obvious town that wagoned Pooky?
BCG Flipped scum.
Pooky wagon looks to be to save BGC.
I don’t find Pooky wagon starters townie
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
MariaR, Frogsterking, Big Chungus Gaming, Toogeloo
Titus (3):
Save The Dragons, MathBlade, Cape90
furtiveglance (2):
Enchant, marcistar
Big Chungus Gaming (1):
furtiveglance
Frogsterking (1):
PookyTheMagicalBear
not voting (3):
Not_Mafia, MalcolmTucker, Titus
with 14 alive, it takes 8 to blow someone up. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-10-23 14:51:54)
This looks like SvS wagons too…
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3272 (isolation #651) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 5:33 pm
Postby MathBlade »
In post 3271, Titus wrote:Math, if that was anyone else, you'd see scum trying to save their buddy.
Either you eliminate me to get your head screwed on straight or we eliminate my SRs.
There's only one town that can be off wagon and hit a scum. I'd rather it not be you but a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do.
Last post tonight. IRL Sadness
I get that, hence me not voting.
Other people can vote first so I can see if I am way off base or not.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3277 (isolation #652) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:15 pm
Postby MathBlade »
That seems incorrect. Maria and I had a big fight about Pooky scum.
Ironically we were both pushing scum correctly.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3279 (isolation #653) » Tue Nov 08, 2022 7:50 pm
Postby MathBlade »
I agree it does.
But your case and point is made better by using correct data points.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3285 (isolation #654) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:53 am
Postby MathBlade »
Disagree with the above
Shitty work day ahead
Wanna see where others vote
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 3260, MathBlade wrote:Based on setup spec has to be Titus or MariaR plus one of the vanillas. Maybe even both.
I don’t see two shot follower + 1 shot BG against this amount of power.
Why is Maria pulled out of the Vanilla claims to get her spot next to Titus here?
Because everyone else on that list was checked vanilla besides her and Toog. I TR Toog.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3291 (isolation #656) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:25 am
Postby MathBlade »
In post 3287, Lukewarm wrote:I am leaning pretty hard towards it being Titus, like ever since I got here it seemed like she has been trying to deflect wagons off of Johnny and onto me and johnny was scum.
And her just unflinchingly back at me sure is not doing anything to convince me otherwise.
I think that cape is unlikely to be partnered with titus, so seems likely to be Titus + [Maria/Toog]
Have you voted her?
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3320 (isolation #657) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:13 pm
Postby MathBlade »
Listening mode engaged.
Not voting anywhere at this time.
Concerns about me not voting can go in the circular file.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
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Post #3329 (isolation #658) » Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:36 pm
Postby MathBlade »
VOTE: Titus
All my TRs agree. Let’s go.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
In post 3336, Cape90 wrote:titus' claim still doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I think the claim was easy to make anyways. Also marci was quite literally another investigative this game anyways, and titus as another investigative with mathblade and Enchant as town seems pretty frozen wolf to me. Like they are only pointing fingers at the "scummiest" people versus what is actually mechanically viable
It was easy to CC someone for literally no gain?
Irrelevant. Had to CC whatever your alignment.
If Frogger checked you and you turned up role cop and didn’t it’s a guilty.
You hadn’t made up your mind that Frogger would die yet and there was a high likelihood you’d be checked.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade