My statements are made knowing 100% that if you lynch me, this game will be over and the scum will win.
My comment:
[quote=Tom Mason]I think all will be solved when Jazz is lynched and revealed as the mafia GF. [/quote]
Should really be mafia/GF.
You are right, I do not know for sure there is a GF in this game. Everyone else began tossing that concept around, paranoid that Tar's investigation of me was possibly false if I were a GF. But it does not dismiss that there is possibly a GF in this game. At this point in the game, unless the GF were me -- it does not matter if there is one in this game. And I am not a GF, so let us look past that -- unless you want to cloud judgment in winning this game for the town.
[quote=Vi]*There WERE two kill attempts, but they were against the same person (Huntress). This guarantees Jazzmyn is not scum. [/quote]
I do not see how that at all makes Jazz
not
scum. Two killing roles target Huntress, one is roleblocked, and the other succeeds. Huntress still dies. It is no different from if Jazz were to target another individual and be blocked.
[quote=Rhinox]
Vi, how is Tom mason confirmed town? How is Tar not confirmed town?[/quote]
I believe we are operating under the assumption that Tar would not falsely claim I am town, leaving himself open the possibility I flipped scum, and then having the rest of the game chase after him for false information. So, even if Tar were scum, he would still report me as town to negate himself from that possible scrutiny. It can become a little bit of WIFOM. But it is really avoiding backlash. It would not confirm Tar as town or scum, only me -- unless you are a really paranoid player.
Now we get to the issue of Tar's roleblock on Jazzmyn and Rhinox now trying to cry gambit. I have mixed feelings on this situation. If both are telling the truth: that means Jazz is definitely
not
one of two killing roles. It does mean Rhinox still is one. However, it gives no insight as to which of them really is town or scum.
Considering a Mafia Roleblocker... There is a possibility of there being a mafia power role in excess of the kill. But it seems like a very basic game where there is not even a town roleblocker (save for a JOAT ability). So, I am not inclined to believe this scenario posed by Rhinox.
While I would like to say I think Rhinox is scum, I feel like it is a hard-pressed case to make -- without knowing Jazz's role. If Jazz flips scum, I think there is a good possibility that Rhinox will flip scum if/when lynched in Day Six. Right now, I think it is a huge risk he made by sticking his neck out there, claiming one thing, then trying to backtrack and audible out by saying he was gambitting. If Jazz flips scum when lynched, it will certainly make him look scum by doing this.
Though, if he is not scum and really is a Vig/SK... Would that not make Vi then possibly a NK immune role (given the assumption he did gambit and did actually target Vi)? There are instances where Mafia GFs are immune to NK. Different mods play different ways.
Now, if that last bit is true... Then we cannot lynch Jazz. We have to lynch Vi instead.
Thoughts?
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