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VOTE: bbmola
Hey hey, been a while
Why did you roll scum this game?
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No RVS vote?In post 7, furtiveglance wrote: Hey everyone, looking forward to this game
I'm just disproving the greeting the game tell don't mind me
VOTE: furtiveglance
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Its less of a tell and more of a... boring decision. But sure.In post 10, furtiveglance wrote:
You found the other gamestart tell that I am living disproof of.In post 8, ZZZX wrote:
No RVS vote?In post 7, furtiveglance wrote: Hey everyone, looking forward to this game
I'm just disproving the greeting the game tell don't mind me
VOTE: furtiveglance
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You guys should read all 1100 chapters of One Piece, it is good
To be honest I wana jump on Psyc but I have a better idea
I trust Flavor, so I will sheep him
Baa
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I play league (yes I am that broken), but I haven't watched arcane yet. Probably should watch it.In post 110, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Arcane is another very good show on Netflix that I highly recommend. Characters from the League of Legends universe in a great multi pov storyIn post 107, TemporalLich wrote: not willing to vote Flavor Leaf yet as we need some more discussion
also flavor leaf self-voted for some arcane reason
I still don't like Psych too much
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Apologies, I got a bit busier than I expected. Catching up now in a few minutes.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Thirty pages... Ok it might take a bit longer than planned, I will try to not spam an entire page with notesImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Not much which is interesting actually, I think that Flavor is lean town, in a sense. Temporal feels a bit weird with the reads, even though his reads mostly as similar to mine Psyco feels very weird, but I am not sure if he is not town, or if that shis meta, I need to see his other games. Reading on, I can spam more to satisfy you Jack soon, I am taking this game in short bursts lol.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Can you guys not post an entire page while I am trying to catch up xDImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Page 13, I give up on reading the moment I saw 1 more page pop in
I will iso one player or two now (except the big 3 with 5000 posts)
who should I iso first? Taking suggestionsImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Good idea as well actuallyIn post 845, shaddowez wrote:
If you ISO everyone but FL/TL/JV, it cuts out a lot. Then just ISO the three of them together.In post 844, Merlyn wrote: 22 pages overnight??? y'all are crazy I'm not reading any of thatImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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I am honestly more used to seeing you with that avatar haha.In post 913, Flavor Leaf wrote:
OopsIn post 911, Boonskiies wrote: I feel I’ve used a similar reasoning to that before this game, if not multiple times, but yeah, i don’t see that post as a slip.
Looks more like a discrediting technique.
Also I would like to iso you but you probably have a billion posts and you are probably town so I can't give a shit to do so right nowImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Sure, give me a fewIn post 914, furtiveglance wrote:
Shrek and iavhIn post 910, ZZZX wrote: Page 13, I give up on reading the moment I saw 1 more page pop in
I will iso one player or two now (except the big 3 with 5000 posts)
who should I iso first? Taking suggestionsImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Might be a meta read? No clue. But it felt forcedIn post 140, Shrek wrote:
this is what i wanted btwIn post 83, Random Nurse wrote:In post 12, Shrek wrote: VOTE: Random Nurse
didnt even THANK me when i signed up for this game when it really needed players what the hey hey is up with that
Listen—I was on a mission.
No time for pleasantries along the way.
But yeah thanks for coming. I was the first to /in and got tired of waiting for months and months.
nurse town
I felt that he is really sticking to one guy there, his previous posts looked at him, and this felt very nitpicky with how 'serious' his tone seemdIn post 218, Shrek wrote:
more people need to talk about this because this low effort opener transitioning into an immediate switch onto another big wagon is a bad lookIn post 69, Klazam wrote: Was going to RVS BBmolla- do you remember me? I recall you back in the day lol
But
Holy fuck Psyche. That’s too much lol.
VOTE: Psyche
I mean, I have some bias obv since he is mentioning me, but my iso at that point was completely barren, bar a joke vote on FL, that he is saying is a sheep group (Well, I did sheep FL), and it feels.. off? Like he is trying to get some 'reads' out just because, not because he has a read on mind. but maybe I am just having too much biasIn post 538, Shrek wrote:
why is zzzx so high, his iso is like flat nothing and he was part of the sheep group on the FL wagonIn post 517, TemporalLich wrote: another lead rist, this one was formed by skimming ISOs:
[Town]
Shrek - Very good town momentum
Klazam - Excellent posts after the two opening posts
Merlyn - Somewhat townie posts
JacksonVirgo - Good at pushing
BBmolla - Really hasty claim that is unlikely to be scum
Naerys - Towny vibes, I think
ZZZX - Somewhat towny vibes
Random Nurse - Slightly towny vibes
camelCasedSnivy - hard to sort, very weak townlean
the worst - lorem ipsum
davesaz - good at blending in
Save The Dragons - hard null
shaddowez - lack of content
Anyone not specifically listed - hard null due to lack of content
Flavor Leaf - impossible to sort
iamveryhappy - what
Hu Tao- eh idk, hard to sort but weak scumlean
biancospino - very performative
furtiveglance - still scummy vibes here
Psyche - gonna go back to my gut feeling of Psyche being scum, the posts don't have town mindset anymore
[Scum]
obviously its a goated list because i'm top but you and i have like barely interacted TL
In post 552, Shrek wrote: [town]
BBmolla - i dont think theyve acted the most townie out of EVERYONE but they claimed and the rest is more a gut read
JV - similar lines of thought to me which is always a good thing, and i dont think scum would willingly get into a kerfuffle over an easily avoidable argument d1
ducky - 434 443 and 457 are a very good line of thought in particular which is enough to move it from lean to read. also hi do you remember me from survivor legendary
[townlean]
RN - i mean he thanked me. what more do you want (mostly just gut read)
TL - confused townie probably. i initially thought they were someone who wasnt earnestly trying to sort but the whole fight earlier changed my view
naerys - early game good vibes ig. i liked 173 but i need to see more from both her and merlyn
merlyn - basically same, drives discussion in a positive direction
STD - not anything solid but i agree with the reads they posted
flavor - i SR their wagon more than i TR them. LHF
[null]
david - no content but i like the impression of iavh dislike the impression of flavor
bianco - appeared early and had some decent posts then disappeared
hard null - anyone here i forgot or didnt mention
furtive - had an early wagon and kind of disappeared, hasn't been driving any real discussion
[conditional scum/mild scumlean]
psyche - like... the least likely to be scum out of my SRs, but klaz voting him and then immediately jumping off to sheep the next big wagon was weird
hu tao - basically my zzzx read but has slightly more content
zzzx - has a nothing ISO and sheeped onto FL
[scum]
klaz - bad opening and i don't really see what redeemed them so much as much as other people apparently do.
iavh - weird opening into disappearing when confronted
Well, look up, at least I feel a bit better because his arguement is basically 'voted FL' which makes no sense.In post 582, Shrek wrote: "i SR their wagon more than i TR them."
on what green earth does this mean i sr FLAVOR more than i tr him
i SR hu tao, zzzx and klazam, all of whom were sheeping the flavor wagon
And here is why it clicks to me, his opinion here is a 'no opinion', although its a fully matching read as the 3 he read as scum (he jumped on a wagon, and low content), but not much else.In post 886, Shrek wrote:
very low substance and kinda low post count so i can’t really form an opinion on them yet. i don’t like the immediate jump to BBmolla compared to their delayed reactions to other game phenomenae, it feels a little like a ‘gotcha’ to me. low end of nullIn post 882, JacksonVirgo wrote:
What are your thoughts on camelIn post 880, Shrek wrote: 813 is actually really thoughtful from klazam. i might have been tunneled on that in retrospect
VOTE: IAVH
i dont like the immediate BBmolla wagon but i must not be seeing what everyone else is in 847
Leaning scum here, if he or camel flip scum, the other is very likely scum.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 920, iamveryhappy wrote:
tbh I have nothing in my iso lolIn post 916, ZZZX wrote:
Sure, give me a fewIn post 914, furtiveglance wrote:
Shrek and iavhIn post 910, ZZZX wrote: Page 13, I give up on reading the moment I saw 1 more page pop in
I will iso one player or two now (except the big 3 with 5000 posts)
who should I iso first? Taking suggestions
I got bonked on the head and have been posting sporadically, that's all you need to know
Well he, indeed, had nothing in his isoImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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VOTE: JacksonIn post 917, JacksonVirgo wrote:
ISO meIn post 910, ZZZX wrote: Page 13, I give up on reading the moment I saw 1 more page pop in
I will iso one player or two now (except the big 3 with 5000 posts)
who should I iso first? Taking suggestions
I am not voting you because you are scum
I am voting you because I feel upset looking at your votes count
Actually thou, let me park my vote somewhere, since I just read shrek,
VOTE: Shrek
I will most likely move it as soon as I find a better place to put it, but lets say that this works for now. I am too tired to keep goingImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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It is more curious you found it curiousIn post 929, Naerys wrote:
Curious exchange, i might be seeing stuff that isnt here but something feels offIn post 928, ZZZX wrote:In post 920, iamveryhappy wrote:
tbh I have nothing in my iso lolIn post 916, ZZZX wrote:
Sure, give me a fewIn post 914, furtiveglance wrote:
Shrek and iavhIn post 910, ZZZX wrote: Page 13, I give up on reading the moment I saw 1 more page pop in
I will iso one player or two now (except the big 3 with 5000 posts)
who should I iso first? Taking suggestions
I got bonked on the head and have been posting sporadically, that's all you need to know
Well he, indeed, had nothing in his iso
I was told to iso him, he said he had nothing in his iso, and his 5 posts indeed, were nothing.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Iso-ing Naerys because why notJust a naked vote?
Just commenting on it on the side, and nothing actually?In post 496, Naerys wrote:
Bulletproof again? LelIn post 392, Random Nurse wrote:Alright, so I'm at work again and will post as able soon.
Also, I'm 2-Shot Bulletproof (don't b*tch to me).
Awaiting to see how Scum respond to the news.
It... really feels thats what you are doing as well, in fact out of your posts I didn't find much content either, and this last post felt like 'here is something I will comment on but clearly I didnt read the last page'. Lazy town or just scum not wanting to really bother?In post 927, Naerys wrote: Well the few posts of his seem lack content, feels like he pops with "look i am still here" and disappears again
Lean scum for now, and I am also happy to move my vote here for now
VOTE: Naerys
That last post reaaally pinged my attentionImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Just ISO'd bbmolla, nothing really worth noting. his push on FL seems fair, I personally think FL seems more townish, but to be honest its a purely gut read, and I am more suspect of people hard town reading him already at that point.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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I am not sure which I am more curious about,In post 933, Naerys wrote:
Is furtive your scum buddy?In post 931, ZZZX wrote:
It is more curious you found it curiousIn post 929, Naerys wrote:
Curious exchange, i might be seeing stuff that isnt here but something feels offIn post 928, ZZZX wrote:In post 920, iamveryhappy wrote:
tbh I have nothing in my iso lolIn post 916, ZZZX wrote:
Sure, give me a fewIn post 914, furtiveglance wrote:
Shrek and iavhIn post 910, ZZZX wrote: Page 13, I give up on reading the moment I saw 1 more page pop in
I will iso one player or two now (except the big 3 with 5000 posts)
who should I iso first? Taking suggestions
I got bonked on the head and have been posting sporadically, that's all you need to know
Well he, indeed, had nothing in his iso
I was told to iso him, he said he had nothing in his iso, and his 5 posts indeed, were nothing.
How you've come to that conclusion,
Or how my reply to iavh is the post you quote to post that
I like it either way, I think my vote is in a good spot for now indeedImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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You know, I almost felt bad for spamming, then i saw I have 20 posts compared to the 200+ a few people have, maybe I am simplynotspamming hard enough.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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I didn't vote you for nudging me, Shrek did it harder and more clearlyIn post 936, Naerys wrote: UNVOTE: Klazam
VOTE: ZZZX
Bit touchy at a slight nudging, dont you think?
I am voting you because you are pretending to be having content, calling people for doing that, then ignoring it when you get called out.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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But sure, you can call it an OMGUS indirectly, I dig itImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Fine, let me correct myself:In post 940, Naerys wrote: I am not pretending having content,LOL, i literally said that i believe one scum is on FL wagon. And voting is great tool of getting reactions
I am voting you because itfeelslike you are 'pretending' to have content.
Better?Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Sure, I will take a look in a few days.In post 942, Naerys wrote: Feel free to check my other games, i will never be capable of elaborate posts with insane length, but i am expressing my thoughts even if the cost is being suspected of being scum.
Also, this wagon probably have a better chance of having something come out of it since many fans are around, so I will jump back
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Its a mix of, people who know you well wouldn't blindly town-read you on the beginning, as its very NAI in general, and I feel he gut-read it to be scum, so I feel its fair (read: Not necessarily a scum trying to force a vote or a push) move.In post 949, Flavor Leaf wrote: i feel it has no merit other than 'hard to read' and 'flavor fever'Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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I mean, to be fair, that is true.In post 952, Flavor Leaf wrote:
i think it's just super easy and a coast tacticIn post 951, ZZZX wrote:
Its a mix of, people who know you well wouldn't blindly town-read you on the beginning, as its very NAI in general, and I feel he gut-read it to be scum, so I feel its fair (read: Not necessarily a scum trying to force a vote or a push) move.In post 949, Flavor Leaf wrote: i feel it has no merit other than 'hard to read' and 'flavor fever'
I just think its NAIImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 954, Flavor Leaf wrote:you can have thoughtful posts as scum. when im scum, im more thoughtful.
it's more agenda based and where they chose to push that has me feeling they were scum, and the types of reads they were having.
Also an overall reminder, whileyes, Scum won't hunt as much, this is multi-ball iirc, which means that scum can scum-hunt without faking it, since there is an entire faction out thereImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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I mean, I agree normally, but I wouldn't say its AI for his early votes/etc.In post 958, Flavor Leaf wrote:
sure, but being NAI too much is AI as the game goes on.In post 955, ZZZX wrote:
I mean, to be fair, that is true.In post 952, Flavor Leaf wrote:
i think it's just super easy and a coast tacticIn post 951, ZZZX wrote:
Its a mix of, people who know you well wouldn't blindly town-read you on the beginning, as its very NAI in general, and I feel he gut-read it to be scum, so I feel its fair (read: Not necessarily a scum trying to force a vote or a push) move.In post 949, Flavor Leaf wrote: i feel it has no merit other than 'hard to read' and 'flavor fever'
I just think its NAI
So I dont really like that defense from you, but it's noted.
But fair.
To be fair this game exploded with content, I went away for one day and it went from 6 pages to 40.
And I am actually curious about you saying I am defending BB, I am starting to suspect you a bit, because you asked me about the reasoning, and I merely answered and explained my reasoning You being very critical of that is making me curious. Especially when my read was a basically 'null, and I have nothing standing out'
Talk to me, so I can actually read you
p-edit, Would Town you try to make a mountain out of nothing? I might need to ISO you actually
but there are like a few hundred posts in there
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Ok, If you know me, you know there is one thing I scum hunt with, and one thing I hate more than everything,In post 962, Flavor Leaf wrote: in fact, I don't think I've gotten free town read at all this game.
The town reads I've gotten, I've earned through interacting with players and showing my thought process on different slots throughout the day.
In addition to this, I already had ZZZx in my lower tiers of reads, and weakening my spot makes a lot of sense from a scum ZZZx pov.
Bullshit.
And this post, smells very very badly of that.
I don't particularly care if you scum read me or not, but if you are town, then show me your thought process here, or I am starting to believe this is indeed scum Flavor.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Ok to be honest at this point it sounds like I might fart and you would say I am doing it to defend BBM and pocket them when I mentioned them in one post initially calling them nullIn post 965, Flavor Leaf wrote:
this is also a crutch as the game goes on too, because it's easy to look for one faction, but when they have to start analyzing which faction, scum can get caught up in pretty easily. And I think this is pretty easy to place as it goes on with some flips.In post 957, ZZZX wrote: which means that scum can scum-hunt without faking it, since there is an entire faction out there
While this is true, I also see this as an easy reason to deny players from getting town read who are scum hunting.
In addition, I don't necessarily believe the idea that scum wont hunt as much, and I don't really get what prompted that idea.
I feel you're reaching and trying to defend BBm, but I don't get how that applies to it. I feel like you're trying to pocket them
Ok, I don't even know if this is scum Flavor, sounds too dumb to be true.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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I never mentioned weakening the read on you, or to be fair, the read on you at all (outside of saying his vote in the RVS stage was fair), and then you started going very defensive, saying how you built any positive reads by yourself, and how I am pushing that down, as scum-me would do.In post 969, Flavor Leaf wrote: And instead of interacting with that post, and replying to anything of merit with it, you just quoted it and said it reeked of BS.
So explain, ZZZx, what is the bs part about it?
Yet I didn't.
Either quote where I said that, or show how you came to that conclusion, or the other logical conclusion is that you are bullshitting a read to scum-read me because I could read you, or some other reason.
To be honest I don't even know a good reason scum you would push for that nowImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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I have put my point, very,In post 971, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 964, ZZZX wrote:
Ok, If you know me, you know there is one thing I scum hunt with, and one thing I hate more than everything,In post 962, Flavor Leaf wrote: in fact, I don't think I've gotten free town read at all this game.
The town reads I've gotten, I've earned through interacting with players and showing my thought process on different slots throughout the day.
In addition to this, I already had ZZZx in my lower tiers of reads, and weakening my spot makes a lot of sense from a scum ZZZx pov.
Bullshit.
And this post, smells very very badly of that.
I don't particularly care if you scum read me or not, but if you are town, then show me your thought process here, or I am starting to believe this is indeed scum Flavor.
like this all just looks like false bravado.
I have been showing thought process.
It does look like you care if you are scum read.
And it looks like youre trying to threaten now because I'm putting pressure on you.VERYclearly.
And you keep evading it, and talking about false bravado, when you know me and how I play, in an attempt to discredit me.
I amnotafraid, good pal I am more than happy to have more pressure on me to move the game along, and to find the scum, and I am beginning to suspect I might. Because your blind insistence here just makes no sense otherwise.
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In post 977, Flavor Leaf wrote: Explain the BS about it.In post 974, ZZZX wrote:
I never mentioned weakening the read on you, or to be fair, the read on you at all (outside of saying his vote in the RVS stage was fair), and then you started going very defensive, saying how you built any positive reads by yourself, and how I am pushing that down, as scum-me would do.In post 969, Flavor Leaf wrote: And instead of interacting with that post, and replying to anything of merit with it, you just quoted it and said it reeked of BS.
So explain, ZZZx, what is the bs part about it?
Yet I didn't.
Either quote where I said that, or show how you came to that conclusion, or the other logical conclusion is that you are bullshitting a read to scum-read me because I could read you, or some other reason.
To be honest I don't even know a good reason scum you would push for that nowImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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There is a difference between Town pressuring, and someone trying to find an excuse to 'pressure' someone, which is full of bullshit, that's allIn post 975, Flavor Leaf wrote:
what do you mean 'at this point'? I only started pressuring you like on this page, and you're acting like it's been nonstop.In post 970, ZZZX wrote:
Ok to be honestIn post 965, Flavor Leaf wrote:
this is also a crutch as the game goes on too, because it's easy to look for one faction, but when they have to start analyzing which faction, scum can get caught up in pretty easily. And I think this is pretty easy to place as it goes on with some flips.In post 957, ZZZX wrote: which means that scum can scum-hunt without faking it, since there is an entire faction out there
While this is true, I also see this as an easy reason to deny players from getting town read who are scum hunting.
In addition, I don't necessarily believe the idea that scum wont hunt as much, and I don't really get what prompted that idea.
I feel you're reaching and trying to defend BBm, but I don't get how that applies to it. I feel like you're trying to pocket themat this pointit sounds like I might fart and you would say I am doing it to defend BBM and pocket them when I mentioned them in one post initially calling them null
Ok, I don't even know if this is scum Flavor, sounds too dumb to be true.
This is part of the game to pressure people, and you immediately start going to discredit attempts. Why am I supposed to see that as townie? Explain.
I do not care how you see me, I am currently engaging with you to read you.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Ok, let me take this veeery slowly because I am getting a little annoyed.In post 982, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Explain how I got to this conclusion?In post 959, Flavor Leaf wrote: it looks like you're trying to stop any analysis on the BBm from happening. It's one thing to defend, but I think you're protecting them, and it has scum potential from you who wants a possible unaligned scum or BBm to keep pressure on me that way.
It's really not that deep, ZZZx, lol.
It looks like you're trying to stop any analysis on BBm from happening. That is the thesis and the conclusion.
The posts you made leading up to that are the ones that lead me to that.
I don't know what you're expecting/trying to get from that.
If you think this is cap, idk what to tell you.
i think it's incredibly valid and genuine line of questioning, you just look upset that you could possibly get slightly questioned.
I wasn't even saying you were hard scum or anything, I don't really get like more than 60% confidence on any reads on Day 1 ever, yet you're acting like I called you lock scum for possibly questioning you could be scum.
Everyone here could be scum, it's Day 1, and I've town read scum hard on Day 1 before even, why should you get some free pass for questioning?
You say:
'The posts you made leading up to that are the ones that lead me to that.'
Quote those posts.
And show me.
Because 'those posts' do not FUCKING exist.
Its not even about whos town or mafia at this point, let me ISO myself, because I am starting to have doubts if I have fucking dementia lolImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Its because its what you mentioned in your post, Lol.In post 986, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 980, ZZZX wrote:In post 977, Flavor Leaf wrote: Explain the BS about it.In post 974, ZZZX wrote:
I never mentioned weakening the read on you, or to be fair, the read on you at all (outside of saying his vote in the RVS stage was fair), and then you started going very defensive, saying how you built any positive reads by yourself, and how I am pushing that down, as scum-me would do.In post 969, Flavor Leaf wrote: And instead of interacting with that post, and replying to anything of merit with it, you just quoted it and said it reeked of BS.
So explain, ZZZx, what is the bs part about it?
Yet I didn't.
Either quote where I said that, or show how you came to that conclusion, or the other logical conclusion is that you are bullshitting a read to scum-read me because I could read you, or some other reason.
To be honest I don't even know a good reason scum you would push for that now
Why would you mention weakening the read on you?
It's a by action thing.
Which is 100% valid.
You just seem like you haven't developed the skill to accept any type of pressure on you.
It's annoyingly a common thing.
And yes, I am indeed not the best in-life in general when pressure is on me,however,I do not think that is the case here
And I do not see why it is 'annoying', if you are town scum-hunting, you should morehappythat I am exposing myself more. No?Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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No, I am annoyed that you have constructed every post I did into me defending, enabling BBM, when out of many random posts I did, It was one of the reads, with ONE line of text explaining that I find it null.In post 990, Flavor Leaf wrote: Like sorry, this is on you. Everything is there, and my thoughts and reads are completely valid.
You seem to get way too worked up over 1 person questioning your line of thought.
I have made it clear all game I do not think BBm is townie. They could be town sure, but I do not agree they are town, so you overreacting to me questioning why I don't like your town read or NAI push on BBm and how it's enabling them to keep doing it, I don't see what part of that you don't understand.
So if you wanna continue, so be it.
Your logic is flawed.
If you told me you hated me reading him null, sure, I'd be like, I disagree, but fair.
But me reading him null isdefending him?Me replying to your question regarding why he is null, (or why I think his vote was fair, in other words, null and not scum-indicative) is defending him, and my posts have showed that, despite you refusing to quote and show me how?
Lets be real here for a moment.
To be honest I dont know if you are scum or not, I will jump back to the wagon which matters more right now
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In post 992, Flavor Leaf wrote: I think you just derp tunneled really
To be fair, its two-sided, but I agree. Maybe I will re-read my own posts and yours tomorrow morning, I am getting tired.
As for the emotions part, I like to play with my emotions running, people speak out when emotions are involved, people show ideas, thoughts, and information they wouldn't otherwise, Reads can be faked, and so can emotions to be fair, but its easier to find someone faking those.
Purely logical play is boring, doesn't work as well for scum hunting, and just repeating, but is simply not funImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In post 994, Flavor Leaf wrote: It also looks like you have a huge tendency to assume and project, and yet you still need things to be exactly concise and perfect, and that's just not my vibe.
I'm going to question people. I'm going to pressure people. I'll pressure people I'm town because it's important to reconsider over time and look at things from different perspectives.
Post game, i'll be validated anyways.
I will assume and project, and I will be clear it is so, but if I ever say something concise, I expect to have a concise reason and showing for it.
I never told you to not question or pressure people, me included. I don't see how you came to that conclusion? Or do you not like me questioning your questioning?Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Anyway, I will be off in a minutes, its getting late, I am getting tired, and my bed is calling out to meImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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I don't even know what your reads up, my posts clearly mentioned I am ISOing a few people, I have no idea what the game state is, because somehow 35 pages came whiel I was away, and I made that clear.In post 998, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 993, ZZZX wrote:
No, I am annoyed that you have constructed every post I did into me defending, enabling BBM, when out of many random posts I did, It was one of the reads, with ONE line of text explaining that I find it null.In post 990, Flavor Leaf wrote: Like sorry, this is on you. Everything is there, and my thoughts and reads are completely valid.
You seem to get way too worked up over 1 person questioning your line of thought.
I have made it clear all game I do not think BBm is townie. They could be town sure, but I do not agree they are town, so you overreacting to me questioning why I don't like your town read or NAI push on BBm and how it's enabling them to keep doing it, I don't see what part of that you don't understand.
So if you wanna continue, so be it.
Your logic is flawed.
If you told me you hated me reading him null, sure, I'd be like, I disagree, but fair.
But me reading him null isdefending him?Me replying to your question regarding why he is null, (or why I think his vote was fair, in other words, null and not scum-indicative) is defending him, and my posts have showed that, despite you refusing to quote and show me how?
Lets be real here for a moment.
To be honest I dont know if you are scum or not, I will jump back to the wagon which matters more right now
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I didn't construct every post you did, I constructed the posts we were LITERALLY talking about BBM over it too, which you were.
That's not even up for debate. You didn't agree with my scum read, and you tried to push them as NAI.
That is 100% you defending them and advocating for them against my scum read.
There were like 2 or 3 posts that I quoted we were talking about it.
Idgaf about town or scum reads. It's the energy or momentum behind it.
Fact of the matter is, you NAI/Null pushed my scum possibility of BBM. I'm not even saying BBm is always scum here. But I don't agree with the enabling of letting them coast for doing very little but derp tunnel.
So yes, you were defending them against my possible scum push. That is an absolute fact. I don't care at all if you weren't calling them town.
It is specifically the NAI/Null push of it that I see as defending them against me that I didn't like.
And somehow me coming to a slightly different conclusion than you was defending him.
Yea. No.
Anyway, we can argue about that forever, BBmola is someone I have no read on, he can be town, scum, a jester for all I care, that's not a hill I am dying on
Youhowever are acting weird here with the read and reaction, and I think the whole argument makes no sense and is unfounded.is a hill I am willing to die on.that
It is not about someone voting me, or pushing me, its because I completely disagree and do not comprehend the logic, that's all
But I will sleep now, so good night and talk to you laterImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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replying to the p-edit since I saw it, I can get the logic behind it a bit more, but reality is this:In post 1006, Flavor Leaf wrote: I think you need to reanalyze it all, ZZZx, and realize why I think you were defending them with the Null/NAI post.
You do not have to town read push someone to be possibly defending them.
You were actively discrediting my push by pushing a NAI/Null read to nullify my reasonings for why I would have them as possible scum.
That IS defending them.
And if you can't see that, it is on you at this point.
I don't do my reads caring about what others reads are, If I think someone is town, null, scum, I will say it, and if someone spins it as me defending them by showing what I think, that's on them and not me, Especially when its a read I am not even aware off because I made it very clear I didnt catch up to the game.
Thats allImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Fine, another p-editIn post 1008, JacksonVirgo wrote: ZZZ and happy both voting Shrek here on P38 is an awful look. I don't even remotely understand why they're scummy and the wagon is being jumped on like there's free money on his slot
Did nothing in my ISO read click? Or do you disagree with my read in it?
To be fair its a light wagon since I have nothing else better to do, and its good to push for information anywayImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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I will be VLA for the next two days, three potentially, will still try to skim and keep up. Probably will do so tomorrow morning..
I am extremely swamped with work, brother coming to visit me tomorrow, and a few more things so I will not have as much time to argue with Flavor (or do much else) those few daysImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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I go VLA for two days and there is a big wagon on my head, and 87 pages. Smh
And I barely read this page and people are still talking about the BBmolla read
For shame people
Anyway i am going to work now. Maybe after work ill skim the last 10 pages and aee what's upImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Skimmed the last 10 pages,
I have nothing to say really, No votes here are founded, at best its Flavor's bs, where he very gently decided to slowly lean to it, but sure. And people who had a "strong/decent town read on me flipflopping now that a wagon is forming, yes I am looking at you for example Temporal. And Honestly? I am not gonna even bother defending myself because there is nothing to defend myself on.
Temporal is scum,
Flavor is scum,
Random nurse is prob town
furtive is prob town
No strong reads other than that
I am vanilla
VOTE: ZZZX
Lets get this moving
Elim me, and when I flip town elim Flavor, and if anyone seems very opportunistic after this post on it, elim them after I flip town and Flavor flips scum, cus they can just be the other faction.
Lets go
EDIT: Holy. Bad habits die hard, almost submitted with a few... L words in here.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Well, whether people follow it or not, I like to believe I did my due diligence, such as that if the game is lost because everyone sheeped those who I said are mafia, I can have that bit of self satisfaction that IIn post 2174, Psyche wrote: is it common for people to believe that these "last will and testament" posts are ever influential after the player making them diestold you soImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Sue meIn post 2175, Random Nurse wrote:In post 2173, TemporalLich wrote:Do you think ZZZX's post is scummy despite the self-vote?
The self-vote makes that post unsortable imo
To me when a player self-votes it's usually Scum doing this. Town has no valid reason for self-voting. Scum does.
It is a NAI, at most a meta read for specific players, but I mean, go for it.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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How so?In post 2176, JacksonVirgo wrote: Is it common for someone to just be almost entirely negative throughout the entire game?Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Look, I am not great at defending myself,In post 2189, Psyche wrote:
i don't know how you can think you did your due diligence while going out of your way to facilitate a supposed mislimIn post 2183, ZZZX wrote:
Well, whether people follow it or not, I like to believe I did my due diligence, such as that if the game is lost because everyone sheeped those who I said are mafia, I can have that bit of self satisfaction that IIn post 2174, Psyche wrote: is it common for people to believe that these "last will and testament" posts are ever influential after the player making them diestold you so
even re: self-satisfaction, can't imagine that your self satisfaction in this scenario would not be better maximized if you were limmed with your vote actually on scum
but all this is beside the question of whether you're actually town i guess
zzzzzzzespeciallyif there is nothing to defend myself from, and knowing that I have no influence over the game, I do this when it needs to be done.
Either I:
a- Survive
b- I get Elim'd, and maybe it changes one person's mind when they see me flip town, to start voting one of the people I said to vote. That one vote is one more than none.
I am not the best at scum hunting, nor am I the best at just manipulation or whatnot, What Iamgood at, is taking a shot, gambiting it all, and enjoying the showingImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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I can't remember, let me ISO them real fastIn post 2190, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
What do you think of hu taoIn post 2183, ZZZX wrote:
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This message is interesting, but other than that, I don't have any hard feelings about Hu Tao, nothing of interest there, If I had a gun on my head and had to pick, I'd say its more likely to be town, but its basically nullIn post 1633, Hu Tao wrote:
WAIT THERE ARE TWO SCUM TEAMS IN THIS......OMG This game just became so much more interesting to me.In post 1622, furtiveglance wrote:
Yeah. It's worth remembering as well that scum can be voting the other scumteam.In post 1619, Hu Tao wrote:
In a game this size, is it optimal to try and save your partner early? Seems not worth being tied to them. I could be wrong though, my first game of this sizeIn post 1563, Flavor Leaf wrote:
here's the thing, i like STD going here, Naerys makes sense based on them wanting to go on early Flavor voters, the other 3 look like they're taking advantage of that and have higher equity of trying to save Iamvh.In post 1552, T3 wrote: iamveryhappy (6): Shrek, furtiveglance, JacksonVirgo, Flavor Leaf, TemporalLich, pisskop
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I don't think all 3 are scum, but I could see Hu Tao as one scum, and then CSF or the W as another trying to save partner iamvh.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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In a bit of a rush are we?
Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Not often, nor common. But I am willing to pull the trigger regardless. I hate clear meta tells or people who make it easy, I find it anti-fun.In post 2207, Random Nurse wrote:
Ah, so he does this as either alignment?In post 2193, Psyche wrote: small dig into zzzx's meta around self-votes indicates plenty readiness to self-vote as town based on similar reasoning to the above, but also as scum presumably to deny information. so in isolation the self vote is NAI. coooool
Debating if I should call his bluff and vote him.
In fact, I will.
VOTE: ZZZX
So yes, self voting is NAI
Just be sure to take responsibility, because I know there is a 75% chance that people I put the ight on (cough cough Flavor) will just go like "Oh no! Anyway" and try to reason why information from a confirmed flipped town has no value. Been there, seen itImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Hammer me, Elim Flavor tomorrow, and once he flips scum, Elim the people trying to speed run the wagon
My self vote isn't moving. Try meImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Sure you areIn post 2222, Flavor Leaf wrote: im obv town even if you flip town, and in the dead thread, you'll see that.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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I love you are already backpeddling lightly Flavor.
What are you waiting for? Hammer me, Elim Flavor tomorrow, lets get on with it
I am here for like 5 more minutes, then I have to leave back for work.
p-edit: Yea, "information", I am happy to get lim'd here, but lets not bullshit eachothers here with "information" when no information is thereImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Yes, Mr. I am not scum because people dont follow me unless I am scum.
Ironic isnt it.Implosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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Well, indeed there is information about who I suspect are scum, which will be the only confirmed-town reads once I am out.In post 2230, Flavor Leaf wrote:
there's plenty of information.In post 2228, ZZZX wrote: I love you are already backpeddling lightly Flavor.
What are you waiting for? Hammer me, Elim Flavor tomorrow, lets get on with it
I am here for like 5 more minutes, then I have to leave back for work.
p-edit: Yea, "information", I am happy to get lim'd here, but lets not bullshit eachothers here with "information" when no information is thereImplosion: I see ZZZX wasredacted. For shame, people. For shame.
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