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[bob3141]

Im back from my vla. will start catching up today/tommorrow

[bob3141]

Ita a stab in the dark with no real ctachup doen yet but

VOTE: Hu Tao

Ive played with town you 3 times so the law of averages state your due a scum game

[bob3141]

Also i dont believe StD plays lurking scum again

Why?

Its my feeling that StD is lurker in general.At this point its just gut feeling, tbh. Too low data on StD

agree with you that statistically Dragon is unlikely to be scum this game but the difference between scum dragon and town dragon is more prenonced as the game goes on.

What makes you think what dragon is doing now is lurking asthe game is only 2 days in. As ive played with scum dragon 3 games and i wouldnt call him a lurker day one in those

[bob3141]

Doesnt look like there was a noticable wagon on flav. It had 5 votes and was little more than rvs wagon and one of those was a self vote. Being a rvs wagon the self vote is not AI while the wagon it self is not large enough enough to draw any statistical conclusions from as it amounts to 4/23 which is 17.4% rather than the 30.7% if it was a in 13p mini.

Fact naerys is trying to draw some conclusion has me at null town lean there. as first impression is new town trying to over read soemthing.

[bob3141]

If camel flips scum, between the sheep on me and this there's no way the worst is town:

i'm also getting a warm vibe from snivy.

Note: At the point of that post, camel had just recently hopped on the happy wagon based on pisskop's suggestion without any reason, and had been on the worst right before that.

i think it more likely points to camel and worst not being s/s. Or at the very least not being the same faction of mafia.

Do you think they are in your view partnered or simply both scum but from different factions

[bob3141]

So, I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the posts but determined to stay in it.

If anyone has any questions let me know: I will try to answer as best I can.

lol thats not an understatement. I know ive already decided to not catchup on posts before i got back from holiday but even with that im seeing over 10 new pages a day lol

[bob3141]

I think we power through Iamvh today. I think there's counterwagon energy trying to protect iamvh.

Since we have two factions of mafia. balance wise what does does that normaly mean for the size of each mafia team.

although it doesnt preclude it being a counter wagon but it would still mean its would be mostly driven my town/other faction.

[bob3141]

So far my first impressions is

naerys, shadow and cat town

[bob3141]

So far my first impressions is

naerys, shadow and cat town

Thoughts on me?

so far null.

Its a large large so pretty much waiting for game to slim down before i do more than sorting the odd player.

[bob3141]

So far my first impressions is

naerys, shadow and cat town

exciting - can you talk me through shadow? naerys would be cool too

Its from the impression of how they answered my questions both seemed to show genuine thought

[bob3141]

Bob is still voting me based on a meme vote in the beginning. I can say that Bob is sus but I think it might be because he's been VLA I think. He's usually more analytical.

This is large and im not a big fan of them

Plus ive come back from holiday into my working week.

[bob3141]

I always find in extra large games the goal is not to kill town but chain execute teh town vigs, that 53 player large still gives me shudders lol

[bob3141]

temp, he was joking

I honestly am not seeing it

that just seems like setup spec but done from scum PoV

a bit of context for the joke

viewtopic.php?t=82371

[bob3141]

bob, who do you scumread as of now?

to be honest no one so far really. ive read about 10% of the thread and am still pondering how to convert my wagonomics from single ball 13p mini to 23p multi ball.

And thats with limited time since everyone else has big head start on me as i was vla and will be at work until saturday.

[bob3141]

to be honest no one so far really. ive read about 10% of the thread and am still pondering how to convert my wagonomics from single ball 13p mini to 23p multi ball.

And thats with limited time since everyone else has big head start on me as i was vla and will be at work until saturday.

yeah I'm still gonna keep my vote on you

this is especially concerning considering your Hu Tao vote and how I currently think you are

townreading

Hu Tao despite voting Hu Tao

i dont get where your gettign my Hu town read from when i stated my read on Hu is null

[bob3141]

i dont get where your gettign my Hu town read from when i stated my read on Hu is null

Your joke post plus your Hu Tao RVS vote outside of RVS adds up to my conclusion that I think you're townreading Hu Tao

so what your saying is that you have come up with maths that allows you to add one and one and come up with 42

Would you really begrudged me an rvs vote when i never got the chance to vote one. Plus it wasnt a joke rvs but a rvs vote based on probability when one has zero info. Not serious but not a joke either.

And ill move my vote when i want to and no sooner.

[bob3141]

when the fuck did you guys play a 5X forgot what the last digit was game

It was 1-2 years ago. And it became unplayable as by day 3 there was que of 7 players that needed to be replaced

Town and scum went about killing teh vigs and sk that was essential for bring game size undercontrol.

[bob3141]

TL is probably town. Not sure though

His read/push on me was to sloppy to be scum lol

I dont think scum could of posted with a straight face that i had town read on you. And then equaly poor town read on you based on flawed belief that a scum me would mean a town you in a multiball game

[bob3141]

Iavh is a short read. He ate'd a bit as he was getting voted and then faded back into the background when the wagon died off

Oh wow, yeah....that's definitely a policy lim at best. Then again, with how active some players have been others are getting ignored and scum could coast. We're more likely to hit town than scum today anyway so I'd be willing to move there just to get to D2, but there are definitely places I'd rather be.

I think showing no interest in the game unless you're getting run up is kind of scummy

Which is flawed assessment and just looks like shade. If we ignor the fact that happy has played this way as town before what makes you think in this case such activity would point towards them being scum. As by your own admission they are making no attempt to push a scum agenda

[bob3141]

Spoiler:

quote="Cat Scratch Fever" post_id=13910539 time=1694632082 user_id=33903]
Hu Tao, I think you've been playing up the newbie card a little bit as a reason to hold back. It reminds me of Blood over Utopia where you were in the background because the mechanics confused you

I'm obviously going to be biased but I dislike that vote on me

Hu Tao is scumreading me for a gutread, but felt the need to qualify it by saying they can't explain it 3 times

That reads unnatural to me because gut reads are typically something that can't be explained anyway, so why feel the need to say that 3 times?

This is such an unusual game for me

Blood over utopia has done a number on some of y'all lol

For some reason

, I think you could be scum. It's a gut feeling, your posts don't seem genuine

for some reason

. But

I'm not sure why

VOTE: CatScratchFever

Hu tao is so scummy lmao

Their scumread on me seems like starting from the conclusion and making things up after the fact

This is such an unusual game for me

Blood over utopia has done a number on some of y'all lol

For some reason, I think you could be scum. It's a gut feeling, your posts don't seem genuine for some reason. But I'm not sure why

VOTE: CatScratchFever

Which posts don't seem genuine? The one that was quoted here?

Just a few

Doesn't even bother quoting which ones

Really now

Hu tao is so scummy lmao

Their scumread on me seems like starting from the conclusion and making things up after the fact

Why can't I just be misguided town? The fact that you immediately think I'm scum is what's worse for you.

The reason why is in the second line of my post...

[/spoiler]my posts on Hu tao for easy reading
[/quote]


So is that all that has you scum read Hu Tao. Seems alittle ligth as i cant see you getting more than null read from such reads. As nothing you have pushed excludes hu tao from being town and simply scum reading you for those reasons

[bob3141]

Anyone else got feeling that FL is trying to make a mess of this game?

na im getting the feeling of town flav so far this game.

[bob3141]

This is such an unusual game for me

Blood over utopia has done a number on some of y'all lol

For some reason, I think you could be scum. It's a gut feeling, your posts don't seem genuine for some reason. But I'm not sure why

VOTE: CatScratchFever

Which posts don't seem genuine? The one that was quoted here?

Just a few

if you havent already doen so. Can you quote these posts of cat and explain what lead you to that conclusion.

[bob3141]

Same here really although i only see the odds of happy being scum at natural average. Will aim to try and get more caught up tommorrow


But on hu tao i would like to echo that they are excellent invest target as they have reasonable chance of being scum but when town they are a good solver. So very useful to either get guilty thre or a clear

[bob3141]

i still remember that 50 players game. 26 players had to agree during the day one

[bob3141]

If you ever had 100 player games i wonder if it would actualy be possible to get 51 players to agree

[bob3141]

yep that would prob be the thing to do. or with bigger games all wagons over x are eliminated at deadline

[bob3141]

well lets see what comes to light once the night is over

[bob3141]

There’s a joke that limming scum day 1 decreases town win rates. I’ve always wondered how true it was

I think its due to less associations as the game goes on.

[bob3141]

I for one am looking forward to a flip or three~

Ik no one asked, just thought I would provide an update on my state of mind regardless

Do you want to help me blitz through Bob and dave in the next couple of days

No

Ahh :c
Why do you scumread them anyway

Bob is so unbelievably scum. Literally everything they post. 2331 to 2333 are the most egregious. Just really thread-flowy against CSF, and calling the Hu Tao push on them 'too sloppy to be scum' is just insanely scummy.

What you have just pointed out is a hard town tell for me to be honest. I dont flow with thread as scum but i stear it even if you cant tell how im stearing at teh time. But one thing you can never say is that i dont put tones of effort in when im scum.

so if im kicking back it mean im waiting for the game to progress before i put the effort in. It means im town always

[bob3141]

thread-flowey?

copying other posters who were sussing CSF at the time.

also i hate to point out your saying im flowing with those posters when im "flowing" in opposite direction. They suss CSF while i started with null town read on CSF with my questioning solidifying my read there.

[bob3141]

I for one am looking forward to a flip or three~

Ik no one asked, just thought I would provide an update on my state of mind regardless

Do you want to help me blitz through Bob and dave in the next couple of days

No

Ahh :c
Why do you scumread them anyway

Bob is so unbelievably scum. Literally everything they post. 2331 to 2333 are the most egregious. Just really thread-flowy against CSF, and calling the Hu Tao push on them 'too sloppy to be scum' is just insanely scummy.

What you have just pointed out is a hard town tell for me to be honest. I dont flow with thread as scum but i stear it even if you cant tell how im stearing at teh time. But one thing you can never say is that i dont put tones of effort in when im scum.

so if im kicking back it mean im waiting for the game to progress before i put the effort in. It means im town always

Right, the old 'if I was scum you'd have no idea!'

nope but you would think i would be putting effort into the game. I would be getting my hands in every pie to stoke town on town conflicts but most importantly looking for those buttons to press to make players convinced im town.

the amount of times ive been the last scum (win or loss) and ive turned the scum pt of monologue of my own thoughts

[bob3141]

larges i really wait till i have a certain level of flips and ive not been nk before putting in the real effort.

[bob3141]

showed though process. Even if it was thoight process of town player stetching a read beyond what could actualy be determined from what they were looking at

[bob3141]

the key bit about the thought process is that it was inbetween well thoughout and little thought. scum tend to edge to either side and not the middle ground

[bob3141]

sometimes, but regardless, it'll be good to pressure you, and i think it's a fair analysis

Well, my read on Bob is basically a pretty low content player, who has precedent for playing like this as town. It's not towny in itself, but I can't really say it's scum indicative given the meta.

im not low content as town well any game below 15p


once we have a few flips and it gets closer to 13p thats when i get into action. Not going to put the level of effort i put into 13p mini as with 23p the amount of time that needs gets exponential with my style of reading a game. For me to only get nk night 2. again

[bob3141]

reads like an odd choice to join a large normal when you are consciously unable play in games with more than 13p

just means im trying a different style this game. wagonomics is just on hold till latter. Also i think some players are forgetting i was holiday for the first half the day one. Not forgetting only just finsihed my working week 6 hours ago. Where i dont have much time to actualy study the game let alone a 23p large

large games need different type of peeble day one.

[bob3141]

so if that wasnt teh case i would be at the 80 ish post mark.

[bob3141]

Well atleast my the player i was going to push going in day 2 was scum. even if one of the mafia teams choose to kill him lol

[bob3141]

gut says a scum kazlam menas shrek cant be from the red scum team.

so shreck is either town or blue scum. something to reember as teh game goes on

[bob3141]

I think klazam townreading hu Tao for not knowing this is multiball was pretty awkward justification to stop voting them

VOTE: hu tao

but why would they double up on vanity vote on you. So first impression is that hu tao and kazlam arnt aligned

[bob3141]

After ISO Klazam, point of focus: Hu Tao, CSF

His pointing towards each of them feels different. Klazam belonged to one of the informed minorities, complained about having too low scum reads, and then he goes after Hu Tao/CSF. It feels off.

By point of focus do you mean you think they may be red scum with Klazam, or want to look into them further? If the first, why do you think that the only two people he'd go after would be scumbuddies based on your reasoning?

I prefer to pick couple of people to whom i pay increased attention. Klazam admitted he likes to bus, so CSF could be his buddy. Tho i would see Hu Tao as wolf, tbh.

seems odd you come out batting so quickly.

if you ingnor kazlam alignment based on their own play how do you read hu, cat


Also who do you think on happys wagon could be scum

[bob3141]

also quite clear that zxx prob also inst red

[bob3141]

the way he was talking yesterday leaves me feeling he saw both happy and zxx wagons as unaligned to him

[bob3141]

unless red faction thought drew was a town pr. I dont think more than one red mafia would be on happy

[bob3141]

Klazam says the exact same thing about you, what do you make of that?

it's also something to consider, however Klazam's read progression on me feels more natural (as in, towny mindset)

prob town read you not draw attention from a high poster.

[bob3141]

seems odd you come out batting so quickly.

if you ingnor kazlam alignment based on their own play how do you read hu, cat


Also who do you think on happys wagon could be scum

Hu Tao feels different than in 2309, but it might be bcz this is large. I personally dont like the "anyone who visits me will regret it" post.

feel that might make them more likely town. As a scum there wouldnt try and draw attention there as it might actualy get them invested. As only 2 players evebn mentioned that

[bob3141]

nvm didnt realize klazams read was that outlandish

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Hu Tao

VOTE: CasedSnivy

wagonomics point to you being blue and i think your hu tao vote is rather bad

[bob3141]

ofcourse im not going to have allot of iso day one. I was on holiday most of it and before i could catch up happy was hammered.

[bob3141]

has there been any claims over night? I see stuff about vig and bp

[bob3141]

VOTE: Psyche

[bob3141]

i knew something about Psyche had been ping me. lol

night 1 i start thinking kaz was scum and he flips start of day one. last night i start think phy is scum and some claims a guilty on them by the time im back on line

[bob3141]

Physche iuf you were town you would be aware that your execution would still be the best course of action.

JV is never going to be scum fakign a guility in your POV, as why would they at this stage.

and occums razor points to you being more likely scum that got fruited rather than any complicated chain of night actions



Also psyche you xclaim complec vig, so who did you try and vig last night?

[bob3141]

convenient

Not really, the convenient claim would be to claim Gunsmith

i wonder if psyche means that fruit is grocery and thus can be found in convenience store

[bob3141]

i think psyche just claimed complex vig so they could role fish. Each night action claim they can fish to see if a player is vt or not based on their reaction

[bob3141]

If it was easily answered, it would mean the actions are confirmed, which means we would have known Psyche wasn't guiltied. Think for a tiny iddy biddy bit before posting

This sort of reminds me of the game with the loyal fruit vendor and the disloyal fruit vendor. Ended up with both being executed

If you were scum i would of expected you to shot someone other than Hu tao as that would of been an easy misexecution. On balance i think its just a mess up, either psy forget to claim fruit straight away or scum just have some blocking capacity

[bob3141]

i guess one member of the scum faction killed hu tao thinking she was from the other scum faction? that seems like an awful kill

VOTE: CasedSnivy

Going back to my gut yesterday. This feels just like an indirect attempt to shade JV after they already said they were the one that shot Hu Tao

[bob3141]

So wait, JV claimed 1-shot Vig kill on Hu Tao.

And then there was one kill, FL.

So it's likely one of the Scum NKs didn't happen?

If you are bp its worth you considering who might have thought you were bluffing like last game

[bob3141]

wait RN do you know if your vest is shot at

Feels like fishing to see how many shots rn nurse has

[bob3141]

RN is not town

He played like this last time he was town. And they didnt play like this in either of there two scum games.

He also fake claimed bp as a traker. so if he was shot at its worth thinking who out of the player list might have thought he was doing the same gambit twice

i know worst, bbmola, me, dragon, naerys was in that game

[bob3141]

RN is not town

He played like this last time he was town. And they didnt play like this in either of there two scum games.

He also fake claimed bp as a traker. so if he was shot at its worth thinking who out of the player list might have thought he was doing the same gambit twice

i know worst, bbmola, me, dragon, naerys was in that game

What do you think about StD?

Not really looked at them so far, for now just going to logical flasy that slot. That lighting doesnt strike thrice

[bob3141]

Cat Scratch Fever, camelCasedSnivy, Aisa, Save the Dragons, BBMolla, the worst, Flavor Leaf, Hu Tao, TemporalLich

Hu Tao wagon at 9 votes now if we discount hu tao

Cat Scratch Fever, camelCasedSnivy, Aisa, Save the Dragons, BBMolla, the worst, Flavor Leaf, TL


now the the fact that the wagon held together for quite a while and only reduced when soft guility was announaced (even if it was wrong in teh end

Implys scum on board, as scum act as glue in wagonomics

[bob3141]

minus dead players

Cat Scratch Fever, camelCasedSnivy, Aisa, Save the Dragons, BBMolla, the worst, TL

[bob3141]

a bit of idle speculation if worst is scum then they are prob red faction as they had a top town read on kazlam that i never realy understood

[bob3141]

correction it was cats post he was quoting

[bob3141]

ill have to look at cats read on kaz to see if it was justified

[bob3141]

Cat Scratch Fever why did you town read klazam day one as i see you placed them in your top town tier but cant really see much about them in iso. ANd those two mentions were all in relation to Hu tao

[bob3141]

you can't seem to grasp that i get busy at times and don't post as much

i didn't see the extra page

k i get your point but ehhhh

UNVOTE: Whoever I was voting before

VOTE: STD

feels like your follwoing were ever the wind is going.

[bob3141]

Save the dragon wagon is just yesterdays hu tao wagon all over again.

[bob3141]

And snivy has interacted with that wagon in same way as this one. Wagonomics show snivy to be clear scum

[bob3141]

btw im not implying youre scum i legit dont have a meta read on you for that

you werent that active in WDM but you werent this aggresive at the start either, or maybe Flavor Leaf drowned it out idk

I got more invested as I started to get a better feel and understanding of this game. Earlier on I was basically swept away from the torrent of pages. When I start getting my bearings in a game as Town it's far easier for me to get more and more aggressive.

nurse you do realise snivy is just trying to cater to you. Its called scum trying to stay on good side of an aggressive town player, see how they are follwing your coat tails. Its just scum hoping a town player will do teh heavy lifting and thus the blow back from town misexecutions

[bob3141]

Especially if they believe it's guiltied scum.

How would that work? Just of one faction of scum would be a different alignment so is town to scum

[bob3141]

okok maybe possibly sometimes enchant is just scum (talking about std)

idk what stds at so I'm not voting just yet

So are you saying that your think of voting for std but simply holding off?

[bob3141]

Either way.

It would make sense to roleblock BP claim.

But now it's obvious that STD just claimed RB on BP because it can't be disapproved and then claimed RB on VT who died at same night to not prove REAL targets.


STD is REAL Roleblocker. He is just not with town.

Why would they simply not claim to have rb another player?

Although this inst a mini you can expect half of a town in mini to be VT and in this game we prob have 8 ish vt from game start. So why wouldnt a scum dragon fish for any remaining vt?

And why fake claim roleblock rather than somethign like vannilla cop ect?


Dragons claims feel to bad for it to be scum, scum claiming vt would infact be better.

[bob3141]

ok sure

VOTE: STD

this is almost too good to be scum but sometimes enchant is just scum

Some how im not suprised.

[bob3141]

is it me or is th stg wagon little more than low handing fruit

[bob3141]

since im not gettign snivy today

If its between dave and stg ill rather vote dave.

Although ill hav eto look into it, the fact they are voting theh main driver of the STG wagon raises an eye. wagonomics at this point would imply scum would try and position themselves to push the main driver of a misexecution. And nurse is clearly just tunneling town so dont get why a vote would be on that player

[bob3141]

is it me or is th stg wagon little more than low handing fruit

It could be, but I find it hard to believe that all of the scum are on his wagon already.

P-Edit

: Where do you see dave being the main driver of the StD wagon? He's not even voting there

i was talking about nurse aggressivly driving STG wagon. clear tunneling town. with me saying i would need to look closer at daves vote as thats where i would expect scum to position.

[bob3141]

will ctach up when i have time

[bob3141]

are still no takers for snivy, wagonomics says shoot there or atleast soemone that jumped on both hu wagon last day and dragon here

[bob3141]

VOTE: Dave

vote camel and we can all have roast camel for dinner

[bob3141]

na im town playing wagonomic darts.

[bob3141]

VOTE: Dave

vote camel and we can all have roast camel for dinner

camelCasedSnivy is a grassType from pokeMon

i suppose its because i "go with the wind"

Does this mean we can only make a salad with your execution snivy

[bob3141]

I suprised there really hasnt been any takers for snivy. Is it too obvous im just seeing what will happen

UNVOTE:

[bob3141]

Anyone remember why ZZZX's initial wagon on d1 disappeared?
By VCs alone iavh as a counter to zzzx makes sense. Not sure I want to sift through 100 pages that blew by too fast to remember it all.
Enchant (the slot formerly known as zzzx) is active, but are they solving?

why do you think it would of been a counter wagon

[bob3141]

the wagons went happy>zzx>happy


and teh fact we have 2 3 scum teams means that single team would have limited pressure

[bob3141]

the wagons went happy>zzx>happy


and teh fact we have 2 3 scum teams means that single team would have limited pressure

Having happy there first doesn't matter much.
If you're saying VCA is useless then why are you focusing on it?
It's only one of the factors I noticed about Enchant.

i focus on wagonomics not vote counts. think holistic wagonomics, that looks for eddies

[bob3141]

i think we are just goign to have to pick between one of dave, camel and dragon as its day and half to teh deadline

i would go for either dave or camel, i think dragon is town and there claimed pr could have some use latter in game.

Its not liek town roleblock is even a great fake claim for scum as with drews flip it would be of been better to claim vt or another role e.g. vannilla cop. that way his faction could have fished for 2 pr/vannilla roles

[bob3141]

VOTE: Naerys

were iam now is that dave and deragon are town and scum from both factions are content.

and nearys pushes have been leaving me with scum pings

[bob3141]

i think we are just goign to have to pick between one of dave, camel and dragon as its day and half to teh deadline

i would go for either dave or camel, i think dragon is town and there claimed pr could have some use latter in game.

Its not liek town roleblock is even a great fake claim for scum as with drews flip it would be of been better to claim vt or another role e.g. vannilla cop. that way his faction could have fished for 2 pr/vannilla roles

Have u seen 2 roleblocks in one game? I didnt, StD claim IS s sus

ive seen triples before and certainly in larges.


i find you reasoning here pushign against dragons claim super suspect.

[bob3141]

Yeah Bob and TL and FG are probably Scum this game.

you say that about me every game so far

[bob3141]

There was a post I saw where someone (I

think

it was

CSF

) that was asking about my reasoning for camel. If you think the one post you pointed out was all I had, you haven't looked at my ISO.

who was this at?

[bob3141]

VOTE: Naerys

were iam now is that dave and deragon are town and scum from both factions are content.

and nearys pushes have been leaving me with scum pings

I am not pushing. If i were pushing, i would actually try to make ppl vote u, which i am not. I am merely stating that u are sus.

classic strawman argument tell tale sign of scum. The straw man being that nearys push on bob is that im susing you for, the attack that your not pushing me.

When it would be quite clear im talking about your push on dragon and your action in the game up to this point. opportunistically hammers happy, opportunistically pushes dragon on the back of clear death tunneler in form of nurse


naerys def flips scum

[bob3141]

Yes its a maybe, but in my previous game my gut feeling at the beginning was correct

UNVOTE: Shrek
VOTE: Klazam

was this a distancing attempt between you and kazlam

[bob3141]

CSF´s town read of Klazam is a sus. Lets see if she will adress this.

That was worst, shriek, and molla

I have too few people I’m scumreading now. Ugh.

For now I’m happy with Hu

That would actually be better for me lol. I prefer to narrow down the possible suspects. For example focusing on FL wagon gave me 5 people on which my attention is focused.

I like the FL, TL and JV dynamics, getting a solid town vibe there.
On the other hand, my focused attention goes to: Klazam, ZZZX, Psyche, Hu Tao, BBMolla

So my gut feeling about FL wagon was right. Shoul have pressed more for Klazam elim

After ISO Klazam, point of focus: Hu Tao, CSF

You talk about not push kaz more yet you have doen more towards me in last few posts then you have toward kaz. And you are sayign you arnt pushing me, Thus you couldnt of concidered kaz a push then.

after kazs flip you use it to angle onto hu tao opportunistically

you say your foucs was on kaz but there really is nothign before he flipped in teh night and you one or two interactions with feel very partnery

[bob3141]

so thats four flipped townies youve either wagoned or pushed.

happy, Hu tao, P and undoubtly now dragon

And one red flip that you faked a push on. As the effort no where compares to your pushes else where,

[bob3141]

May i remind you bob, that i voted Klazam bcz i believed there was a scum on Flavor wagon? And i was right in that. Unfortunately i got distracted from pursuing that slot.

But no follow up, and thats what scummy and what scum do all time.


Which exactly matches what kim did in teh last game me, Hu, you, dragon and nurse played together

[bob3141]

you should probably just kill me so that the players with their heads in their butts can realize scum lead them onto a bad wagon

If it was a bad wagon there wouldn't be this much extreme resistance.

remember how you pushed me over kim in prior game. well you doing it no with dragon and nearys.

Pushing dragon whereas its nearys that scum. see how nearys is reacting teh same to pushes as kim did to my push on them in that last game

[bob3141]

May i remind you bob, that i voted Klazam bcz i believed there was a scum on Flavor wagon? And i was right in that. Unfortunately i got distracted from pursuing that slot.

But no follow up, and thats what scummy and what scum do all time.


Which exactly matches what kim did in teh last game me, Hu, you, dragon and nurse played together

What kind of follow up would you like? Finding all blue and reds in one day? I am not omnipotent.

so why no follow up on your read on an known scum. As what you did is a classic distancing move

[bob3141]

you should probably just kill me so that the players with their heads in their butts can realize scum lead them onto a bad wagon

If it was a bad wagon there wouldn't be this much extreme resistance.

remember how you pushed me over kim in prior game. well you doing it no with dragon and nearys.

Pushing dragon whereas its nearys that scum. see how nearys is reacting teh same to pushes as kim did to my push on them in that last game

DO YOU REALISE THAT YOU ARE COMPARING 2 DIFFERENT PPL WITH DIFFERENT REACTIONS AND DIFFERENT PLAYSTYLES?

aTe much

how would you descibe what your doing as different?

[bob3141]

May i remind you bob, that i voted Klazam bcz i believed there was a scum on Flavor wagon? And i was right in that. Unfortunately i got distracted from pursuing that slot.

But no follow up, and thats what scummy and what scum do all time.


Which exactly matches what kim did in teh last game me, Hu, you, dragon and nurse played together

What kind of follow up would you like? Finding all blue and reds in one day? I am not omnipotent.

another straw man, oh wait a minute did you find a single red/blue day one, no zero

but you abandoned a push on a fliped red. which is massive association

[bob3141]

I am being honest, thats what

but your not responding, your just doing aTe

[bob3141]

My dog demands my attention...its hard to write when that funny four legged being tries to lick my whole face

see again failure to respond to why you didnt follow through with your read on kaz. instead just more excuses and ate

[bob3141]

Hey hey, VOTE: Hu Tao since I should've in our last game

luckily for you (or maybe unlucky if you're scum) I'm town

Don’t like.

*pulls out fire extinguisher and sprays furtiveglance with dry powder*

This post made me chuckle.

I cannot sort hu tao

Considering I've only had like 2 posts at the time, not sure what there is to sort

I sure hope you're Town this game, Hu.

I'd actually be happier if I was scum in this particular game. Being town in a Large makes me feel lost and overwhelmed

Really don’t like.

VOTE: Hu Tao

I’m town I’m town I’m town. Why do you feel the need to say that?

This was a iso of iamveryhappy, naerys, shadow, hu. Leaning town on nae, null on happy, shadow needs to post more.

Next group

suprises suprise but when they were questioned on this point they decided on town read on your slot

[bob3141]

My dog demands my attention...its hard to write when that funny four legged being tries to lick my whole face

see again failure to respond to why you didnt follow through with your read on kaz. instead just more excuses and ate

I didnt follow with my read on Kaz bcz i got distracted. First by ZZZX and then Happy wagon happened. And i already said that i got distracted.

excusses, excusses

sayign you got distracted doesnt cut it, why was kaz suddenly not worth your attention when they were before?


and also your sayign you got distracted by the going executions which is somethign scum do and you so often see them dropping their distancing pushes to do so.

[bob3141]

Hey hey, VOTE: Hu Tao since I should've in our last game

luckily for you (or maybe unlucky if you're scum) I'm town

Don’t like.

*pulls out fire extinguisher and sprays furtiveglance with dry powder*

This post made me chuckle.

I cannot sort hu tao

Considering I've only had like 2 posts at the time, not sure what there is to sort

I sure hope you're Town this game, Hu.

I'd actually be happier if I was scum in this particular game. Being town in a Large makes me feel lost and overwhelmed

Really don’t like.

VOTE: Hu Tao

I’m town I’m town I’m town. Why do you feel the need to say that?

This was a iso of iamveryhappy, naerys, shadow, hu. Leaning town on nae, null on happy, shadow needs to post more.

Next group

suprises suprise but when they were questioned on this point they decided on town read on your slot

You really think scum at that point would mention their buddy as town? NOPE. I personally wouldnt mention my buddy at all. Who knows what Klazam was trying. Perhaps pocketing.

lol do you really think that could pass as pocket attempt. they never tried to sort you yet arrive at town read. A classic action of scum, so often they arrive at town reads on their partner early that have no substance behind them.

so your saying your teh reason you cant be scum with kaz is that you would not of mentioned him all game. So on every point your glorified im not scum becasue WINOF

[bob3141]

My dog demands my attention...its hard to write when that funny four legged being tries to lick my whole face

see again failure to respond to why you didnt follow through with your read on kaz. instead just more excuses and ate

I didnt follow with my read on Kaz bcz i got distracted. First by ZZZX and then Happy wagon happened. And i already said that i got distracted.

excusses, excusses

sayign you got distracted doesnt cut it, why was kaz suddenly not worth your attention when they were before?


and also your sayign you got distracted by the going executions which is somethign scum do and you so often see them dropping their distancing pushes to do so.

Lapse of judgement isnt excuse. I had no real ammo against Klazam except gut feeling. And then ZZZX posted something i found suspicious and argued with him a bit.

so why didnt you push both kaz and zzzx. instead you forget about red and chase after the player lots of other are suddenly talking about executing. does scum chase wagons, oh yes they do

[bob3141]

In that early stage Scum probably mentioned those that were NOT on his team. In case he got limmed or NKed so his buddies wouldnt not be found. Happy flipped town too and shadow looks like town aswell.

so your saying you wouldnt town read your partner as scum.


oh wait a moment youscum read kaz. so taht matches with you being scum

[bob3141]

Hey hey, VOTE: Hu Tao since I should've in our last game

luckily for you (or maybe unlucky if you're scum) I'm town

Don’t like.

*pulls out fire extinguisher and sprays furtiveglance with dry powder*

This post made me chuckle.

I cannot sort hu tao

Considering I've only had like 2 posts at the time, not sure what there is to sort

I sure hope you're Town this game, Hu.

I'd actually be happier if I was scum in this particular game. Being town in a Large makes me feel lost and overwhelmed

Really don’t like.

VOTE: Hu Tao

I’m town I’m town I’m town. Why do you feel the need to say that?

This was a iso of iamveryhappy, naerys, shadow, hu. Leaning town on nae, null on happy, shadow needs to post more.

Next group

suprises suprise but when they were questioned on this point they decided on town read on your slot

You really think scum at that point would mention their buddy as town? NOPE. I personally wouldnt mention my buddy at all. Who knows what Klazam was trying. Perhaps pocketing.

lol do you really think that could pass as pocket attempt. they never tried to sort you yet arrive at town read. A classic action of scum, so often they arrive at town reads on their partner early that have no substance behind them.

so your saying your teh reason you cant be scum with kaz is that you would not of mentioned him all game. So on every point your glorified im not scum becasue WINOF

I say i wouldnt mention my buddy at that stage, when i can pick from so many other ppl.

so your agrument about kaz making suspect town read on you is that you wouldnt make such a read yourself.

Are you kaz, i think not

[bob3141]

My dog demands my attention...its hard to write when that funny four legged being tries to lick my whole face

see again failure to respond to why you didnt follow through with your read on kaz. instead just more excuses and ate

I didnt follow with my read on Kaz bcz i got distracted. First by ZZZX and then Happy wagon happened. And i already said that i got distracted.

excusses, excusses

sayign you got distracted doesnt cut it, why was kaz suddenly not worth your attention when they were before?


and also your sayign you got distracted by the going executions which is somethign scum do and you so often see them dropping their distancing pushes to do so.

Lapse of judgement isnt excuse. I had no real ammo against Klazam except gut feeling. And then ZZZX posted something i found suspicious and argued with him a bit.

so why didnt you push both kaz and zzzx. instead you forget about red and chase after the player lots of other are suddenly talking about executing. does scum chase wagons, oh yes they do

Scum is chasing chaos and distractions. Which you are doing with StD wagon. I also didnt like iavh´s lurking and felt its a good compromise for a d1 lim.

no what your doing is clearly trying to get rid of a town roleblocker. as scum never claims roleblocker here when there are so many other far better fake claimes to make

[bob3141]

with only 16 hours to go, ill hammer STD in bit to avoid a no execution even if its most likely going to flip town

[bob3141]

although by the looks of it STD is already hammered by TL

[bob3141]

VOTE: Save The Dragons

doubt its scum but better than no execution

[bob3141]

(If there WERE duplicate Town Roleblockers I will FLIP my SHIT.)

remember whne we had 3 bg

[bob3141]

VOTE: Save The Dragons

doubt its scum but better than no execution

If he flips Scum I'm coming for WHOLE lot of you.

Honey badger's gonna GET his HONEY.

do you realy think a scum me would let a scum dragon fake claim rb. i would never be the one to waste a chance to role fish even if the slot still flipped

[bob3141]

nurse there is never any execuse for out right name calling

[bob3141]

"save your ass" is a saying it means protecting your backside and isnt a insult

[bob3141]

lol n3 was the opposite of n1. n1 the one i thought was scum in the night fliped scum. N3 the one i was thinking could be scum flips town.

[bob3141]

OK, so in my defense it's total bullshit that there were two duplicate Town Roleblockers. I had a word with T3 via PM and dragged him behind the woodshed, and he agreed to not run duplicate Town PRs again. And it looks like JV lied about the whole fruit thing and being a JOAT?

no you just talked nonsense along the lines of trying to out guess the mod. Its a 23p game so we dont know what teh mod has done to balance the setup



reminds me of the fruit vendors in my last large. one loyal fruit vendor and oen disloyal fruit vendor. the loyal fruit vendor lied about gettign fruit from teh disloyal fruit vendor

[bob3141]

Either way pretty sure this is what town nurse and not scum nurse would do

[bob3141]

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

im feelign one scum teams is mostly off teh dragon wagon. With how strongly obvous town nurse was pushing it. I could very much see scum sittting back

[bob3141]

nurse last two scum games is much more low effort at pushing there scum reads wagons. Town nurse is very aggressive by comparision.

Also scumnurse never feels taht invested in actualy gettign the flip.

[bob3141]

there was scum on the dragon wagon imo

one faction certianly shot off it. Which means one faction isnt heavily on dragon

And dragon was end of day execution and that sort of wagon is always has less scum than a usual execution. As no execution is bad for town while its good for scum.

[bob3141]

Day 2 VC 4:

Hu Tao (9 [E-2]): Cat Scratch Fever, camelCasedSnivy, Aisa, Save the Dragons, BBMolla, the worst, Flavor Leaf, Hu Tao, TemporalLich
the worst (2): shaddowez, Shrek
Psyche (2): Random Nurse, pisskop
BBMolla (1): Psyche
camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141


Not voting (5): davesaz, Naerys, furtiveglance, ZZZX, JacksonVirgo

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2023-09-29 09:08:00)

With 20 alive it takes 11 to eliminate and 10 to no eliminate.

MOD NOTES: JacksonVirgo is V/LA

now this Hu wagon had energy. And is teh sort of wagon velocity that happens when scum are block votting


i do wonder are catscrtach,bbmola and worst oen of teh teams

[bob3141]

those 3 were block votign for dave as well

[bob3141]

Hu Tao (9 [E-2]): Cat Scratch Fever, camelCasedSnivy, town, town, BBMolla, the worst, town, n/a, TemporalLich

TL prob town

Cat Scratch Fever, camelCasedSnivy, BBMolla, the worst left

[bob3141]

Both factions shot off wagon

Scum shoot off wagon bc they're already on the wagon and aren't going to shoot themselves, and they don't want to narrow the PoE of people on the wagon...

so who shot asia

[bob3141]

He isnt playing. He looks just as bad as dave, with even less content.

This is seriously starting to piss me off. I'm providing a lot more content than a lot of people.
If you don't think so, I expect an explanation.

im suprised you were wagoned last day, why it feels like your wagon was heavily motivated by one of teh scum teams to me

[bob3141]

Save the Dragons (6): Naerys, Aisa, shaddowez, camelCasedSnivy, Random Nurse, Enchant
Cat Scratch Fever (5): furtiveglance, TemporalLich, pisskop, Save The Dragons, Shrek


interesting cat wagon never went any where as it implies scum were staying away

[bob3141]

Oh you're right she was. Aisa was pretty vocal about std being a compromise elimination though, she wasn't one of the people who voteparked there

And why do you think that matters?

[bob3141]

The Dave wagon didn't go anywhere either. What does that imply to you?

incorrect

your wagon disappeared but there were still clear efforts to get dave executed

let me ask you how many votes did you have at end of teh day compared to dave.

[bob3141]

although prob only 50% right

current bucket list of scum - catscratch,worst, bbmola / nearys, snivy

[bob3141]

McMurdo station, Antarctica

Day 2 VC 5:

Hu Tao (9 [E-2]):

Cat Scratch Fever, camelCasedSnivy, Aisa, Save the Dragons, BBMolla, the worst, Flavor Leaf, Hu Tao, TemporalLich

Psyche (5): Random Nurse, pisskop, JacksonVirgo, furtiveglance, Naerys
the worst (2): shaddowez, Shrek
BBMolla (1): Psyche
camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141

Not voting (2): davesaz, ZZZX

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2023-09-29 09:08:00)

With 20 alive it takes 11 to eliminate and 10 to no eliminate.

MOD NOTES: JacksonVirgo is V/LA

This should be looked at

Aisa,StD,FL and Hu Tao are all flipped town, that leaves CSF, ccS,molla,the worst and Lich to look at

your pretty much just parroting me. Just feels like scum trying to be original but just copying something someone they are sure is town just did a few hours ago

[bob3141]

so is this thought of your original nearys?

[bob3141]

McMurdo station, Antarctica

Day 2 VC 5:

Hu Tao (9 [E-2]):

Cat Scratch Fever, camelCasedSnivy, Aisa, Save the Dragons, BBMolla, the worst, Flavor Leaf, Hu Tao, TemporalLich

Psyche (5): Random Nurse, pisskop, JacksonVirgo, furtiveglance, Naerys
the worst (2): shaddowez, Shrek
BBMolla (1): Psyche
camelCasedSnivy (1): bob3141

Not voting (2): davesaz, ZZZX

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2023-09-29 09:08:00)

With 20 alive it takes 11 to eliminate and 10 to no eliminate.

MOD NOTES: JacksonVirgo is V/LA

This should be looked at

Hu Tao (9 [E-2]): Cat Scratch Fever, camelCasedSnivy, town, town, BBMolla, the worst, town, n/a, TemporalLich

TL prob town

Cat Scratch Fever, camelCasedSnivy, BBMolla, the worst left

Let me answer you, no.

you have just copied me from a few hours ago. The only difference being you swaped TL for snivy as town

Yet you pressent it as one of your original reads. How is this as you say "show some effort" - just looks liek busy work

[bob3141]

will acth up tommorrwo

[bob3141]

A no elimination is just a rubbish idea at the moment. First teh scum players are split between 2 factions and scum prob split into 2 teams of 3.

thus town doesnt lose votign majority until the next day and that assumes scum dont cross kil and we kill town today.

if all teams make it over the next 2 days after that it would be 5p left and if one faction is removed then 1 scum in 3p

[bob3141]

First some thoughts: I know lurking doesnt have to be AI, but if you look at CSF, she is literally trying to add some thoughts to the game.

A pagetop?

Spoiler: Day 1 VCs

"My wife, she tells me to go to store to buy eggs and milk. She says I must write it down on piece of paper... it does not matter whether I write eggs, milk or milk, eggs... but that is not true for vectors, only one ordered pair is the correct spot at Star Market, otherwise I go to wrong place!"

Day 1 VC 1:

Not voting (23): Random Nurse,

Flavor Leaf

, biancospino,

Hu Tao

, camelCasedSnivy,

KittyTacky

,

Save The Dragons

,

Merlyn

, davesaz, Flavia, Naerys,

Klazam

,

Psyche

, bob3141,

iamveryhappy

,TemporalLich, furtiveglance, ZZZX, the worst, bbmolla, Shrek,

JacksonVirgo

, shaddowez

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

MOD NOTES: bob3141 is V/LA

"My students... they say Linear Algebra is easy... but then we get to eigenvectors and it is important you do it right! I know ballet!"

Day 1 VC 2:

Flavor Leaf

(5): BBMolla,

Klazam

,

Flavor Leaf

, ZZZX,

Hu Tao

furtiveglance (3):

Psyche

, biancospino, the worst

Psyche

(2): shaddowez, TemporalLich
Flavia (1): camelCasedSnivy
Shrek (1): Naerys

Merlyn

(1): davesaz

Hu Tao

(1):

Merlyn

ZZZX (1):

Save The Dragons

Random Nurse (1):

iamveryhappy

Klazam

(1): Shrek
Not voting (6): Random Nurse,

KittyTacky

, Flavia, bob3141, furtiveglance,

JacksonVirgo

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

MOD NOTES: bob3141 and the worst are V/LA. Also wow, I forgot how annoying doing VC's is

"Speak louder! Speak louder! Speak louder! Speak louder! What is your question? Speak louder! No, there will not be any 3x3 matrices on the test."

Day 1 VC 3:

iamveryhappy

(4): Shrek, furtiveglance,

JacksonVirgo

,

Flavor Leaf

Hu Tao

(3):

Merlyn

,

Klazam

, bob3141

Flavor Leaf

(3):

Hu Tao

, TemporalLich,

iamveryhappy

furtiveglance (2):

Psyche

, pisskop
ZZZX (2):

Save The Dragons

, Naerys
BBMolla (2): shaddowez, camelCasedSnivy
Shrek (1): ZZZX
camelCasedSnivy (1): davesaz
TemporalLich (1): BBMolla
pisskop (1): the worst

Not voting (3): Random Nurse, Flavia,

KittyTacky

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

MOD NOTES: bob3141 and the worst are V/LA. Sorry for the massive delay in VC's, I'm working on getting a co-mod who can do VC's while I'm in the middle of my school day.

Setubal, Portugal

Day 1 VC 4:

iamveryhappy

(5): Shrek, furtiveglance,

JacksonVirgo

,

Flavor Leaf

, TemporalLich

Hu Tao

(3):

Merlyn

,

Klazam

, bob3141

Flavor Leaf

(2):

Hu Tao

,

iamveryhappy

furtiveglance (2):

Psyche

, pisskop
ZZZX (2):

Save The Dragons

, Naerys
BBMolla (2): shaddowez, camelCasedSnivy
Shrek (1): ZZZX
camelCasedSnivy (1): davesaz
TemporalLich (1): BBMolla
pisskop (1): the worst

Not voting (3): Random Nurse, Flavia,

KittyTacky

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

MOD NOTES: bob3141 and the worst are V/LA.

"Trying to do algebra without showing your work is like trying to drive through a Mac-Donalds backwards!" - Mrs. Houck

Day 1 VC 5:

iamveryhappy

(7): Shrek, furtiveglance,

JacksonVirgo

,

Flavor Leaf

, TemporalLich, CamelCasedSnivy, pisskop

Hu Tao

(3):

Merlyn

,

Klazam

, bob3141

Flavor Leaf

(2):

Hu Tao

,

iamveryhappy

ZZZX (2):

Save The Dragons

, Naerys
camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
furtiveglance (1):

Psyche

Shrek (1): ZZZX
TemporalLich (1): BBMolla
pisskop (1): the worst

Not voting (3): Random Nurse, Flavia,

Doctor Drew

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

MOD NOTES: bob3141 is V/LA. I am the backup mod.

"You are late. You missed the first half of my sentence.”

Day 1 VC 6:

iamveryhappy

(6): Shrek, furtiveglance,

JacksonVirgo

,

Flavor Leaf

, TemporalLich, pisskop

Hu Tao

(3):

Aisa

,

Klazam

, bob3141
ZZZX (3):

Save The Dragons

, Naerys, Cat Scratch Fever
camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
shaddowez (2): camelCasedSnivy, the worst
Shrek (1): ZZZX
TemporalLich (1): BBMolla

JacksonVirgo

(1):

iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):

Doctor Drew

BBMolla (1):

Psyche

Flavor Leaf

(1):

Hu Tao

Not voting (1): Random Nurse

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES: bob3141 is V/LA.

"I cannot see pencil clearly. You must write in pen! America is a democracy."

Day 1 VC 6:

iamveryhappy

(6): Shrek, furtiveglance,

JacksonVirgo

,

Flavor Leaf

, TemporalLich, pisskop
ZZZX (5):

Save The Dragons

, Naerys, Cat Scratch Fever, the worst,

Hu Tao

Hu Tao

(3):

Aisa

,

Klazam

, bob3141
camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
shaddowez (1): camelCasedSnivy
Shrek (1): ZZZX
TemporalLich (1): BBMolla

JacksonVirgo

(1):

iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):

Doctor Drew

BBMolla (1):

Psyche

Not voting (1): Random Nurse

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES: ZZZX is V/LA

"I Never Will Marry" by The Kossoy Sisters

Day 1 VC 7:

iamveryhappy

(4): Shrek,

JacksonVirgo

,

Flavor Leaf

, pisskop
ZZZX (3): Naerys, the worst,

Aisa

Hu Tao

(3): bob3141,

Save The Dragons

, Cat Scratch Fever
camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
BBMolla (2):

Psyche

, TemporalLich
Cat Scratch Fever (2):

Hu Tao

, furtiveglance
shaddowez (1): camelCasedSnivy
Shrek (1): ZZZX
TemporalLich (1): BBMolla

JacksonVirgo

(1):

iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):

Doctor Drew

Not voting (2): Random Nurse,

Klazam

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES: ZZZX is V/LA. I opted to go with "Random Song" this time.

"Dreams" by Fleetwood Mac

Day 1 VC 8:

ZZZX (6): Naerys, the worst,

Aisa

,

Flavor Leaf

,

Save The Dragons

, TemporalLich
Cat Scratch Fever (4):

Hu Tao

, furtiveglance, pisskop, BBmolla

iamveryhappy

(2): Shrek,

JacksonVirgo

Hu Tao

(2): bob3141, Cat Scratch Fever
camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
BBmolla (2):

Psyche

, camelCasedSnivy
Shrek (1): ZZZX

JacksonVirgo

(1):

iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):

Doctor Drew

Not voting (2): Random Nurse,

Klazam

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES: ZZZX is V/LA.

”Your last name… it does not sound American. Are you a real American?”

Day 1 VC 9:

ZZZX (7): Naerys, the worst,

Aisa

,

Flavor Leaf

,

Save The Dragons

, TemporalLich, BBMolla
Cat Scratch Fever (3):

Hu Tao

, furtiveglance, pisskop

iamveryhappy

(2): Shrek,

JacksonVirgo

Hu Tao

(2): bob3141, Cat Scratch Fever
camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
BBmolla (2):

Psyche

, camelCasedSnivy
Shrek (1): ZZZX

JacksonVirgo

(1):

iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):

Doctor Drew

Not voting (2): Random Nurse,

Klazam

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES: ZZZX is V/LA.

"Attitude" by Bad Brains

Day 1 VC 10:

ZZZX (9): Naerys, the worst,

Aisa

,

Flavor Leaf

, TemporalLich, BBMolla, ZZZX, Random Nurse, Cat Scratch Fever
Cat Scratch Fever (3):

Hu Tao

, furtiveglance, pisskop
camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
BBmolla (2):

Psyche

, camelCasedSnivy

iamveryhappy

(1): Shrek

Hu Tao

(1): bob3141

JacksonVirgo

(1):

iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):

Doctor Drew

TemporalLich (1):

Klazam

Random Nurse (1):

Save The Dragons

Not voting (1):

JacksonVirgo

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES: ZZZX is V/LA.

"No Sleep Till Brooklyn" by The Beastie Boys

Day 1 VC 11:

ZZZX (7): Naerys, the worst,

Aisa

,

Flavor Leaf

, TemporalLich, BBMolla, Random Nurse
Cat Scratch Fever (5):

Hu Tao

, furtiveglance, pisskop, Shrek,

Klazam

camelCasedSnivy (2): davesaz, shaddowez
BBmolla (2):

Psyche

, camelCasedSnivy

Hu Tao

(1): bob3141

JacksonVirgo

(1):

iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):

Doctor Drew

Random Nurse (1):

Save The Dragons

Psyche

(1):

JacksonVirgo

iamveryhappy

(1): Cat Scratch Fever

Not voting (1): ZZZX

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES: ZZZX is V/LA.

"My Pal Foot Foot" by The Shaggs

Day 1 VC 12:

ZZZX (7): Naerys, the worst,

Aisa

,

Flavor Leaf

, BBMolla, Random Nurse, TemporalLich
Cat Scratch Fever (5):

Hu Tao

, furtiveglance, pisskop, Shrek,

Klazam

BBmolla (2):

Psyche

, camelCasedSnivy
camelCasedSnivy (1): davesaz

Psyche

(1):

JacksonVirgo

Hu Tao

(1): bob3141

JacksonVirgo

(1):

iamveryhappy

davesaz (1):

Doctor Drew

Random Nurse (1):

Save The Dragons

iamveryhappy

(1): Cat Scratch Fever
the worst (1): shaddowez

Not voting (1): ZZZX

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES: ZZZX is V/LA.

Day 1 VC 13:

iamveryhappy

(9 [E-3]): Cat Scratch Fever,

Psyche

, TemporalLich, ZZZX, furtiveglance,

Flavor Leaf

,

Save The Dragons

,

Hu Tao

, BBMolla
ZZZX (5): Naerys, the worst,

Aisa

, Random Nurse,

Doctor Drew

Cat Scratch Fever (3): pisskop, Shrek,

Klazam

Psyche

(2):

JacksonVirgo

, camelCasedSnivy
camelCasedSnivy (1): davesaz

Hu Tao

(1): bob3141

JacksonVirgo

(1):

iamveryhappy

the worst (1): shaddowez
Not voting (0):

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES: ZZZX is V/LA.

Day 1 VC 14:

iamveryhappy

(6): Cat Scratch Fever, TemporalLich, ZZZX, furtiveglance,

Save The Dragons

,

Hu Tao

ZZZX (5): Naerys, the worst,

Aisa

, Random Nurse,

Doctor Drew

Cat Scratch Fever (3): pisskop, Shrek,

Klazam

BBMolla (3):

Psyche

,

Flavor Leaf

, BBMolla

Psyche

(2):

JacksonVirgo

, camelCasedSnivy
camelCasedSnivy (1): davesaz

Hu Tao

(1): bob3141

JacksonVirgo

(1):

iamveryhappy

the worst (1): shaddowez
Not voting (0):

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES: ZZZX is V/LA.

"All Apologies" by Nirvana

Day 1 VC 15:

iamveryhappy

(10): Cat Scratch Fever, TemporalLich, ZZZX, furtiveglance,

Save The Dragons

,

Aisa

, BBmolla, davesaz,

Flavor Leaf

, camelCasedSnivy
ZZZX (5): Naerys, the worst, Random Nurse,

Doctor Drew

, pisskop
Cat Scratch Fever (3): Shrek,

Klazam

,

Hu Tao

BBMolla (1):

Psyche

Psyche

(1):

JacksonVirgo

Hu Tao

(1): bob3141

JacksonVirgo

(1):

iamveryhappy

the worst (1): shaddowez
Not voting (0):

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES: ZZZX is V/LA.

”I see 7 out of 25 people… very good attendance for a discussion block!”

Day 1 VC 16:

iamveryhappy

(12 [HAMMERED]): Cat Scratch Fever, TemporalLich, ZZZX, furtiveglance,

Save The Dragons

,

Aisa

, BBmolla, davesaz,

Flavor Leaf

, camelCasedSnivy,

Doctor Drew

, Naerys
ZZZX (3): the worst, Random Nurse, pisskop
Cat Scratch Fever (3): Shrek,

Klazam

,

Hu Tao

BBMolla (1):

Psyche

Psyche

(1):

JacksonVirgo

Hu Tao

(1): bob3141

JacksonVirgo

(1):

iamveryhappy

the worst (1): shaddowez
Not voting (0):

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2023-09-19 17:13:00)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to eliminate.

MOD NOTES: ZZZX is V/LA. 2 AM VC’s are the best VC’s!

So IAVH wagon was a thing Day 1. It then petered out, we saw the rise of ZZZX and my (CSF) wagons, before IAVH became the EOD wagon.

Early IAVH wagon of note:

iamveryhappy

(6): Shrek, furtiveglance,

JacksonVirgo

,

Flavor Leaf

, TemporalLich, pisskop

I singled this one out because these folks were on IAVH for multiple VCs. I'd be pretty confident in at least one scum here, as this was the wagon that some of the vocal town players were pushing. Maybe even 2+ because multiball. I remember Shrek had a suspicious pivot onto voting me, and pisskop has been voting me for ? reasons. I also can't really remember anything furtive has done lately besides tunnel me; he could be scum as well.

And then the end of day IAVH wagon:

iamveryhappy

(12 [HAMMERED]): Cat Scratch Fever, TemporalLich, ZZZX, furtiveglance,

Save The Dragons

,

Aisa

, BBmolla, davesaz,

Flavor Leaf

, camelCasedSnivy,

Doctor Drew

, Naerys

Maybe I'll go through these votes later, but confidence in something coming out of it is going to be low as the game had been dragging on forever and people were eager for an elimination. There's also a good chance of scum off wagon not wanting to make waves day 1, guessing gob slot (Shrek) or bob

Some notes: if ZZZX is scum, the worst looks good here for relentlessly pushing ZZZX against the IAVH wagon. Naerys a little bit as well, even if she did hammer IAVH at the end bc at that point it was probably better to just end the day. RN gets some credit, but he wasn't very active or caught up with the game towards the end. pisskop was okay with either wagon going through so eh.

Compared to that, we have bbmolla. Pops in with

VOTE: Davesaz

without any explanation, mind you. Just "Look, i am here."

whose faking the fear about a miselim here thats the real question for yall

Obvious attempt at discredit. Ask yourselves - do you truly believe that molla is engaging the game? I dont.
There is this:

Hi friends

My trip is ending today, driving home now

Expect a post in the next couple days with substance

Fair enough, rl can be busy, i respect that. The problem is, molla didnt post a single post with any substance.

ANY SINGLE ONE IN WHOLE GAME

Again, we can compare with CSF. She is fairly trying, sharing some reads. CSF voting actions are bad, tbh but then my actions can be pretty bad too and i am still town. Atleast she is trying.

Molla is lurking. Badly lurking. Promises to make a post with substance and then...nothing. Vanished again.I feel more comfortable with molla lim.

This is getting huge, time to split.

only because they got wagoned. so its pure survivalism

[bob3141]

and most of those thoughts are just back to there day one pushs and pushign a town read on their most liekly partner


cat and worst have a massive partner equity.

If cat flips scum we know we have good execution the next day. If cat flips blue then red will prib just cross kill worst anyway

[bob3141]

no that worst and csf are prob both blue faction


thus red would want to at some point get rid of rivial faction. maybe not tonight but at somepoint in th next few days

[bob3141]

Day 4 VC 5:

Cat Scratch Fever (7 [E-1]) bob3141, furtiveglance, TemporalLich, Naerys, shaddowez, pisskop, Random Nurse
davesaz (5): gob, Enchant, BBmolla, the worst, Cat Scratch Fever
Enchant (2): davesaz, camelCasedSnivy

Not voting (0):

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2023-10-15 09:54:00).

With 14 alive it takes 8 to eliminate and 7 to no eliminate.

MOD NOTES:

last vc in all likely hood teh red faction are on csf with us town and blue are pushing dave/enchanted

[bob3141]

cat is better execution than bbmola.

[bob3141]

You're a better execution than bbmolla

I'm behind again, but need to prod dodge because work

holy OMGUS that is not a towny reaction

It was a joke lol

Then when will you learn jokes dont translate easy into type

[bob3141]

we have 14 alive and one dead goon

And i think flav siad earlier it would prob be 2 teams of 3

if its was 8 scum then with 23 players town would need to be stacked. And we have only seen 2 vigs and 2 roleblockers

[bob3141]

somone needs to hammer cat if we are all going to have our 5 portions of cat a day

[bob3141]

somone needs to hammer cat if we are all going to have our 5 portions of cat a day

animal harsh treatment detected

search mitchel and web and you will find what its a refernce too