Mafia 90-Lolwat? Mafia, Game Over, Mafia Win

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/Confirm If it isn't too late

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Vote: Vino

Sorry for not confirming earlier.

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Bandwagoning is bad

Is it?

It ios when its against me.

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Unvote

Vote: SC

The "misuderstanding" looks like it was done on purpose.

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Actually, Yosarian, it makes perfect sense. Scum will sometimes "misunderstand" something so that they can push a vote without a good reason.

I'm saying it dosn't make any sense in this context.

SC: I think the stratagy suggested by mafiaSSK is anti-town and scummy, vote ssk

Emp: You must be scum pretending to misunderstand ssk's comment!

Uh...what? SSK's comment was wrong stratigically, and arguably anti-town; I don't really think it's scummy, but Emp's attack on SC dosn't make any sense here. I know SC made some comment about how perhaps he misunderstood SSK or something, but I really don't think he did.

So you think SC was lying about misunderstanding SSK? Well me too. That's why I'm voting him.

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Actually, Yosarian, it makes perfect sense. Scum will sometimes "misunderstand" something so that they can push a vote without a good reason.

I'm saying it dosn't make any sense in this context.

SC: I think the stratagy suggested by mafiaSSK is anti-town and scummy, vote ssk

Emp: You must be scum pretending to misunderstand ssk's comment!

Uh...what? SSK's comment was wrong stratigically, and arguably anti-town; I don't really think it's scummy, but Emp's attack on SC dosn't make any sense here. I know SC made some comment about how perhaps he misunderstood SSK or something, but I really don't think he did.

So you think SC was lying about misunderstanding SSK? Well me too. That's why I'm voting him.

...

What?

No, really, what? I just said that I thought SC was, in fact, entierly correct in his understanding of SSK, and that his response to it was fairly rational. SC did say he may have misunderstood him, but it dosn't even make sense to think that might be a lie.

So you think that SC understood SSK.
AND
You think SC was not lying when he said he misunderstood?

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Sorry, Empking is me.

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Yos: Do you think SC misunderstood?

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Is thinking about jesters useful in a large game. (where a jester lynch probably won't end the game.)

Minor FoS: The jester speculators

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If you're not scum, you're a distraction of the highest order, and the town will be better off without you either way.

this sentence is a

huge, glaring scumtell

uge glaring truth.

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I think Yos's reaction is perfectly normal.

Unvote

Vote: Penguins

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I'm happy with my vote. Its like Penguins didn't even remember why she attacked Yos in the first place.

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Eh, fair enough.

How does this post help ther town?

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I usually get along with rolfcopter too, but I guess he found another penguin to fly with.

Anyways, the self-vote was REALLY scummy. The next vote will not be the hammer if it takes 9 to lynch if Vino is right.

It sounds like you're anxious for a lynch, scum..

How do you get that?

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PoS: If you and KoC turn up scum, will you admit to playing anti-town?

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PoS: If you and KoC turn up town, will you admit to playing anti-town?

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Er, why are people voting KoC, because of his poems?

PoS: Why do you think I'm lurking?

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PoS: Why do you think I'm lurking?

Just off the top of my head, the fact that you're lurking comes to mind.

Please give proper answers.

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I keep trying to catch up on this and it keeps getting a bunch of new pages, I'm working my way through this. Are we in an urgent state in any way currently or do I have time?

Empking and Litral are scum. We're going to have to lynch them sooner or later.

Yet, you seem to be completely unable to give quotes to back up your claims.

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I voted her because she outed the masons.

I'm still voting her because of her anti-town scummy play.

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PoS: Scum
Me: Not Scum
Litral: Possible scum
KoC: Probably not scum.

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That was me.

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dear vino, stop trying to undermine penguins' (or anybody else's) town reads.

Yes, discrediting town reads is uber scummy. Because the last thing scum wants, is a whole big batch of townies that most people agree are townies. Remember how they only have one bullet per night. Also, it narrows the field down during the day, increasing the likelihood that they will be lynched. They especially loathe this. A good idea for the scum is to sow doubt about this. Like Vino is doing.

Because town loves it when scum is practically cleared for no good reason.

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Lowell - Do you really think that just because she's leading the charge against people that don't think she's perfect, that makes her town?

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I'll search for replacement.

So is Armlx no longer our mod?

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Nat: How harsh are you involving rule violations?

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Depends on the rule and the circumstances.

Ahhh, I thought that said "role" and was so excited.

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I don't see enough bus'ing in the Litral wagon.

unvote, vote: Empking

Please give reasons with your vote.

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I don't see enough bus'ing in the Litral wagon.

unvote, vote: Empking

Please give reasons with your vote.

Like I haven't given reasons before?

How about putting content in YOUR posts, Mr Righteous?

Empking is sooooo scum. Roflcopter, I think Litral is going to have to wait for Father Vig. I'm liking the Empking lynch more and more.

I didn't ask for content with your posts, I asked for content with your votes

The fact that you're unable to give any is very telling.

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Yos is obv town.

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Mod: The rules suggest three days before prods. What's the actual amount?

POTS: Obv Scum
Roflcopter: Good odds of being scum.
Litral: Quite likely scum

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I really don't like POTS' collective argument over wy he shouldn't be suspicious of her.

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I really don't like POTS' collective argument over wy he shouldn't be suspicious of her.

...what?
What aguments are those, exactally?
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You're also pretty scummy, in that you are declaring LitrAdmiral STILL town, and Vino and myself as scum, all three judgments going against the grain of current collective wisdom. "

Its like a higher level version of OMGUS.

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Its near deadline so PoS doesn't stand much of a chance. Gnocki has always seemed like rational town to me.

So

Vote: ThAd

PoS: You sounded treally certain with that Gn vote, what changed?

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PoS: You sounded treally certain with that Gn vote, what changed?

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Its a hider that doesnt die with mafia.

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Hiders usually die if they target a mafia member. It seems that this one will not, or at least it doesn't say in his description that he will.

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He's not a doc. He doesn't save the person he glues, he only saves himself. If the person he glues gets killed he gets killed too. It could just as easily be a scum role that he recast as town. In fact, I think that's more likely given the behavior of the mechanic. If it is a town role, it's not a very strong one, so I'm okay with seeing him lynched, especially because it's too late to switch. My vote makes L-1 and enables hammer so I'll wait to see other opinions before I vote.

I will say, though, that a scum hider dosn't make much sense; what's the point of saying "you avoid a nightkill if you hide with someone who dosn't get killed" to someone in a scum group when they control the nightkill themselves?

Neah; he's probably either telling the truth, or lying completly; I don't think a scum hider is likely.

Multiple scum groups.

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Vote: PotS

#1166 just feel SOOOO manipulative. Too easy a target.

I also like the empking push, since #1174 is just silly. Voting for someone because it would be neat if something with no evidence ended up being true? No logic.

My reasons for yesterday are still valid. I was responding to those saying that there wouldn't be a cult mason.

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Rofl: I think people are suggesting that the CR started with CMs.

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How did I kill the game?

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so, lowell, if deadline were imminent, the only two conceivably reachable deadline lynches were yos2 and gnkoichi, and you were the only person capable of moving your vote to one of these two people, which of them would you lynch?

once you've answered that, be a doll and vote for that person

What the fuck?

I take it to be general agreement that most people think that KoC was recruited N1 and died N1 as well. So we know that obviously the CR has all of the information that town does, so when KoC claimed "fucked up townie" he knew he could safely recruit that person. I think we should be careful in establishing known pro-towns until the CR is dead, because it gives him/her safe people to recruit.

I think it is reasonable to assume that the CR must not be a mason, since that would give him way too many known townies to draw on, which means once again I will not be voting any masons, since getting this CR should be a high priority. It's bad to try to second guess the mod, but this is a reasonable risk to take in my opinion.

Vig, SK, Mafia, Mafia, Doctor save
Vig, SK, Mafia
Vig, Mafia, Mafia
SK, Mafia, Mafia

Does anybody have any thoughts on these? Or perhaps there are other killing roles? Can we try to get some information out of the fact that there were three killings last night?

Also, we have a dead mafia, why is nobody looking for connections between mafia partners? Here's my pairings:

Admiral/EmpKing - Admiral seems to defend EmpKing
Admiral/MafiaSSK - They mostly ignore each other
Admiral/alvinz - They mostly ignore each other

Everybody else seems to me either hated Litradmiral enough to convince me, or seemed to be hated by Litradmiral.

Vino: How do you know that the CR can recruit masons?

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There was certanly nothing in the mason PM implying we were unrecruitable.

Is there usually something in role PMs of hidden cult games to tell them that they're unrecruitable?

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Unvote

Vote: Pots

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Usually, cult leaders that attempt to recruit scum, die.

I have to think about this.

Is that true in large games?

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Usually, cult leaders that attempt to recruit scum, die.

I have to think about this.

Is that true in large games?

Not that I've seen...usually, in a large game, when a cult recuiter tries to recruit scum, the recruit attempt fails, but they don't die. The other way is a bit too swingy and random for the taste of most game designers, IMHO.

That's what I thought.

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Yos is looking scummier.

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Now, Yos is looking town again. I still think PoTS is scum.

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This game is so dead.

vote: Empking

I think Emp is more likely to be scum than the CR, like I've stated before, but given his scummyness in this game, in addition to his OMGUS one-liners, and anti-town behavior, he could be the CR if he isn't scum.

What OMGUS one liners?