Mafia 85 - Murder at the Bus Stop (game over)

[Wall-E]

Sorry, not playing that game either. If you've got something to attack with, unleash it for me to deal with, but I'm not building a case on myself based on the lies told about me in this game and then defending against it. Do the case-building yourself and I'll meet you halfway by providing the defense. It's better for others to attack (so craplogic can surface).

[Wall-E]

Your opinions are noted.

[Wall-E]

I'd like to point out that kuribo ignored the POINT of the post, which is that BA is asking me to build a case against myself, and that's insipid.

[Wall-E]

He's asking me to go through the thread, find the lies told (albeit in most cases probably unintentional lies) about me, compile them, and then defend against that. I defended myself as best as able when questioned earlier in the thread. Any further attacks are going to have to be brought up again. That's how the game is played.

[Wall-E]

1) I have never mischaracterized the cases against me, because I called them lies (albeit probably unintentional ones), and that is exactly what they are. Try again, BA. Also I don't really care who thinks poorly of how I define things that aren't true as lies.

2) I will claim now. I'm a doc.

Mod edit
Votecount:
Xtoxm (3): Jebus, farside22, Wall-E
Wall-E (6): kuribo, Riceballtail, armlx, ThAdmiral, Surye, BlakAdder
farside22 (1): Xtoxm

Not voting (5): Gremwell, Slepz, Zazier, RestFermata, springlullaby

With 15 alive it's 8 to lynch.

[Wall-E]

On Nov. 11, 2008 at 10:02 PM I sent a PM to the mod saying I'd like to protect Armlx. Scanning through my sentbox, I see no other submitted actions. That's not to say I didn't send more, since the oldest PM in my savebox is from Oct. 27th.

[Wall-E]

Merriam-Webster thinks:
Lie
intransitive verb
1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive
2 : to create a false or misleading impression

Why is this important? Because you're using an emotional and misleading word, and you better mean it.

Alright, by that definition, no. I'm not characterizing the things against me as lies. What would be an appropriate word? Untruths? My life is too complicated for me to keep track of every untruth said about me in every game of mafia I play. If someone wants to accuse me of something, do so now, or quote some past accusation, and let me defend afresh. This reliance (a crutch, if you will) upon past attacks against me won't fly. I expect better of you if you're going to lynch me. I expect it for both the town's sake and my own.

[Wall-E]

On Nov. 11, 2008 at 10:02 PM I sent a PM to the mod saying I'd like to protect Armlx. Scanning through my sentbox, I see no other submitted actions. That's not to say I didn't send more, since the oldest PM in my savebox is from Oct. 27th.

What you delete messages from your sent box? Why?

I used to play this game on a much smaller message board and we had a maximum of 50 messages (saved, sent, outgoing AND inbox) at a time. Deleting PMs is a force of habit for me. I assume there is no limit to the sentbox size from your bewildered response. I was unaware of this.

[Wall-E]

Timestamp = modkill? I was unaware of that rule.

Surye: No. Sorry.

[Wall-E]

unvote, Vote: Wall-E

I don't buy the claim at all. Seriously, how do you not remember any names at all?

*shrug*

Brain damage from alcohol. I lose my keys a lot, too.

[Wall-E]

I am also calling for a CC.

Armlx: I don't understand post 1614 (holy mother that's a long game).

[Wall-E]

1) I have never mischaracterized the cases against me, because I called them lies (albeit probably unintentional ones), and that is exactly what they are. Try again, BA. Also I don't really care who thinks poorly of how I define things that aren't true as lies.

2) I will claim now. I'm a doc.

The word lie is defined as an INTENTIONAL misleading.

You know, like your claim.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPAM THIS THREAD WITH EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE FAILING TO READ IT I WILL POLITELY IGNORE YOU

THANKS MGMT

[Wall-E]

In the future I will, at worst, be able to use this thread as a meta-defense. I pretty much do the opposite of what everyone expects me to do in every possible situation, so I'm not surprised everything I say is apparently a scumtell.

I AM a doc.

[Wall-E]

Surye: Sorry, I already tried. What you got is all I got to give.

[Wall-E]

lol you guys are going to encounter what i call the 'wall-e' effect soon

as town, i give off 'scum tells' all day

as scum, i give off 'town tells'

it's like i'm some kind of psychologically reversed mafia player

there's simply no accounting for it

[Wall-E]

I think he's town, but he's being horribly anti-town by refusing to even ask the mod for his actions. If he doesn't i'll vote him as policy.

Oh, I can do that?

Mod: Can I get my night actions sent to me?

In case that doesn't work, I'll also PM him.

[Wall-E]

So you're saying it was not a lie?

[Wall-E]

Got a response:


Night 1: no action taken
Night 2: protected Jebus
Night 3: protected armlx

[Wall-E]

Why don't I unvote Xtoxm? Because he's 1) scum and 2) defending me in the face of an inevitable lynch, because he knows I'm town. Duh.

[Wall-E]

If scum have no GF they no that no cop exists, and setting up a CC makes the one cop look real.

Have you ever tried this in a mafia game or were you ever in one where it was tried?

[Wall-E]

...

confirm vote: Xtoxm

[Wall-E]

kay

[Wall-E]

sorry, i was a doc

good luck

[Wall-E]

Edit: I'm dead

[Wall-E]

yeah sorry i lost track of this game

very not cool of me

good game all

[Wall-E]

good game blackadder

i'll see you in another game

hopefully as a teammate =)

[Wall-E]

The edited-in votecounts were very cool: My all-time favorite votecount style is edited-in combined with at least once per day a votecount about midway through the day to compare/contrast to the end-of-day votecount.