Mafia 97 - Day Night Mafia, Game Over

[Platypus_Dude]

Vote: DIDO

The name looks innocent enough, but the capitals say otherwise.

[Platypus_Dude]

Unvote: DIDO
Vote: Blood Covenent

No reason to defend a joke yet.

[Platypus_Dude]

Mod: Is my BC vote ok or do I have to make it exact?

No, I know who you mean to vote for.

[Platypus_Dude]

That's funny. I thought my 'No need to defend a random vote' thing under my vote would indicate it wasn't a bandwagon vote. Even if it was a bandwagon vote, why does it matter?

[Platypus_Dude]

And then he asks if is vote is legit... why wouldn't it be?

Some mods prefer the name to be exact. Mine had a space in it, so I was wondering if it counted.

Snow White: Is there any reason you didn't put down a vote?

[Platypus_Dude]

Thank you DIDO. o_O

What is wrong with a second vote? It takes like 10 to lynch. If it had a random reason, would it cause discussion? Not as much, that's for sure.

[Platypus_Dude]

I'm going to read through later and see what's up with the nhammen, MM, and Snow White controversy.

[Platypus_Dude]

The overacting thing could go either way. He didn't show that it was sarcasm, and he was serious in the rest of his replies.

And now, to Monkies post, i practically

have

to defend myself, otherwise i look like a loser.

Personally, I'd be more worried about looking like scum than looking like a loser...

hmm.. you don't know me. I like to be loved

I'd say BC should have said, 'I'd look like scum' instead of loser. MM did twist the words a little, but BC responded to it in a bad way.

I find it funny, that i'm not allowed to defend my case, even in the RVS.

Why did you feel the need to defend a case in the RVS?

[Platypus_Dude]

nhammen: I'm pretty sure BC was talking about MM, not you.

BC: How did that look like fishing?

Snow White: CB is right for the most part. You should be using your vote to show us where your suspicions lie, but you don't need to always have your vote on someone.

I'm not going to say replacing out is a scumtell, but it certainly doesn't help CJ's replacement.

looker is lurking.

Wiirdo: Why do you find BC suspicious?

[Platypus_Dude]

I'll try to get in a post later today.

[Platypus_Dude]

I may want a few words with the replacement for CJ, but we'll see.

Unvote: BloodCovenent
Vote: looker

I can't tell what you're doing. Your first post was today, and you vote Wiirdo without giving a reason.

Empking: What is up with your vote/post? Lobster has made 1 post since your last, and it doesn't include voting or anything to do with the RVS.

[Platypus_Dude]

Plat's Post 186 - You're trying to kill me because you don't understand me?

@Looker: I think Platypus_Dude just wants an explanation as to why you came in voted Wiirdo without giving a reason.

This. You didn't say if it was or wasn't random, and if it wasn't random there was no reason.

[Platypus_Dude]

1) Constant signs of arrogance by MM.

Is arrogance a scum tell or is this ad hominem? If arrogance is a scumtell, can you post at least 1 example that proves this?

And now, to Monkies post, i practically

have

to defend myself, otherwise i look like a loser.

Personally, I'd be more worried about looking like scum than looking like a loser...

hmm.. you don't know me. I like to be loved

I'd say BC should have said, 'I'd look like scum' instead of loser. MM did twist the words a little, but BC responded to it in a bad way.

First off, you had me saying what MM said.

Just thought I'd mention this too. If I had said what you suggested, I still would have been under fire.

It's not my fault you defended a random vote.

I'll reread the BC/MM quote war thing sometime later.

It seems Canadianbovine is going into active lurking.

[Platypus_Dude]

Snow White: Please post why you read people the way you do, otherwise it means almost nothing.

Hyprocisy=Scumtell...? <--- But that's assuming you have a reason for denoting my actions as hypocritical. Do you?

You have around 3 posts. You aren't really one that should comment on activity.

[Platypus_Dude]

I will try to reread sometime this weekend so I can get better reads on people.

Snow:

im entitled to have my opinion.

And I'm entitled to my opinion that you should use your vote. A bandwagon of 9 people can't just form, so you're reason of 'being careful' is invalid (I do realize you just don't always feel the need to vote, just that reason is invalid).

CB is right for the most part. You should be using your vote to show us where your suspicions lie, but you don't need to always have your vote on someone.

What's wrong with this?

Why do i find you suspicious? Because you questioned me on why i would not place my vote,

You're saying I'm scummy for disagreeing with your opinion. I asked why you didn't place a vote (because votes cause reactions). I then agreed that you should use your vote, but you don't need to have it on someone at all times.

you havent posted a great deal

With this post I have the same amount of posts as you.

Did CJ ever get a replacement?

You're doing nothing other than keeping others busy by asking them questions, so, in a sense, this tactic could be used to take the heat off of you.

The other other thing I can think of is arguing, and you can't just argue with people. The way I've found people get into arguments is by their votes and questions, and is that not what he's doing?

[Platypus_Dude]

I'm fine with a CB, CJ, Wiirdo, looker, or Lobster lynch. I can't read Emp because of his playstyle, so I'm not sure how I feel about his lynch.

I'm not sure how much rereading I can get done today either.

[Platypus_Dude]

I said I would reread over the weekend in an earlier post, and I don't have a lot of time to do that.

[Platypus_Dude]

The highest votes are CJ- 4, BC- 4, MM- 2. I won't vote MM because of a slight meta.

Unvote: looker
Vote: CJMiller

Make that CJ- 5

[Platypus_Dude]

EBWOP:

I would say a lynch is better than no lynch on D1.

[Platypus_Dude]

BC: You voted someone without giving a reason and saying MM is overreacting for voting you for it. If you gave a reason D1, I doubt many people remember it.

[Platypus_Dude]

PLEASE just claim cop with a guilty if you are one. Soft claiming leaves questions.

I believe CB was wondering if it was a doc save or the scum nk or missed the deadline. I think we should consider doc save or missing the deadline but not in-thread.

[Platypus_Dude]

I have a feeling this game may die if we make it night again too soon, so I'm going to hold off on voting him right now. Also, iPeanut wants to give us his input.

I'd like to give my input on the day-vig like person. First off, do not claim. I'm not sure when a good time for you to claim is, but nhammen was the wrong person, IMO. If you could give your reasoning whenever you claim, I'd appreciate it.

Who is iPeanut replacing in for?

[Platypus_Dude]

I'm fine with a CB, CJ, Wiirdo, looker, or Lobster lynch. I can't read Emp because of his playstyle, so I'm not sure how I feel about his lynch.

I do not have a LAL(urkers) playstyle. I just happen to read the quieter people as maf and the more active as town.

Random lynch is always better than no lynch on D1.

This

Just because you're cop doesn't mean you can start telling people who to be wary of and who to treat as town.

and this.

I don't like Platypus's decision to lynch lurkers/inactives/not as participative.

I actually read those people as scum. It wasn't a LAL list.

If BC just happens to be scum either town will have the majority, or the other scum team will help us lynch him tomorrow/nk him.

Wiirdo and Kise posted less and differently respectively than I recall from my last games with them.

[Platypus_Dude]

BM: Are you basing Scott and CB as a team (assuming CB is scum) or are you basing it purely off suspicion?

Snow: I recall replying to your suspicions, why are you still suspicious of me?

CB is L-3. I'd vote if we still weren't waiting for some things to be cleared up, and people to post.

I feel better about looker/BM in light of his responses.

[Platypus_Dude]

I think tomorrow's results should prove interesting (I'm hoping there isn't a mafia roleblocker).

Snow: You didn't really answer my question, but since it appears you'll be rereading, I'll let it pass.

saber still reads as sort of scummy to me. The fact that he was wiirdo's replacement doesn't help him.

falko, Kise, MM, and emp should give some insight or at least post.

BC: How and why do you think Emp's playstyle is effective?

[Platypus_Dude]

Bek: I meant the cop's results. No need to take it to the extreme. lol

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Vote Count:

canadianbovine(6)

- BloodCovenent, Empking, xRECKONERx, saberwolf, Battle Mage, Scott Brosius

BloodCovenent(2)

- MonkeyMan576, canadianbovine

Not Voting(9)

- Bekkatha, canadianbovine, falkomagno, iPeanut, Kise, lobstermania, Platypus_Dude, Sando, Snow White

Deadline:

14/8/09 15:45 Central Time

9 to Lynch
5 to Lynch at deadline

[Platypus_Dude]

Snow: We seem to be misunderstanding one another (at least I am). In your post here, I thought you still thought I was scummy. So then you read me as neutral and said you would reread. You didn't really say why you read me as neutral, that I saw, but I saw that you would be rereading, so I said I'd 'let it pass' because I thought you'd have it in a later post. Does that make sense? The misunderstanding is my fault so I'm sorry.

To clarify, what changed your mind of your scummy opinion of me? Did you read my case, if so, what did you think? Have you reread?

[Platypus_Dude]

EBWOP:

I believe CB is just trying to live one more night, so I will be voting him.

[Platypus_Dude]

Didn't even get the chance to vote him.

I guess we're waiting for the day mafia.

[Platypus_Dude]

1. I'm going to let Kise come in before I even think about voting.

2. I keep forgetting my suspicions and reasons for people in this game. I'm going to try to reread.

[Platypus_Dude]

Slight FoS: Saber

for asking Kise to claim, but not mentioning being suspicious of him before, nor saying anything about his claim or even voting him after.

MafiaSSK: I would hate to not get my skim-through of the thread done, but I'll try to sum it up for you when I'm done. (This should give me more incentive to read it)

Everyone/Anyone: What kind of role, besides the godfather, can give a cop an inno report? Is it a 'basic' role? How common is it in the forums?

[Platypus_Dude]

Whats the point of this question?

I'm trying to see how likely it is we have a godfather, or other role, so I can determine if Bek is clear (assuming BC isn't scum). I didn't think the godfather was a basic role, but I'm not sure.

Why are you not voting for Scott Brosius?

Are you always this jumpy? o_O

[Platypus_Dude]

Why arent you voting for Scott?

I don't like rushing into lynches. It allows for more mistakes, robs the town of more discussion, and may cause a mislynch. What happened with Kise and Scott should be proof enough. I'm also slightly more happy with a saber lynch.

[Platypus_Dude]

I'm going to try to finish skimming by the end of tomorrow or Wednesday.

Also, Plat, it wasn't originally saber who asked me to claim -->

That doesn't affect my point. He asked you to claim without saying he was suspicious of you or even talk about wanting to vote you.

I didnt ask you to rush into a lynch. I asked you to put your vote to some use,

You've asked people to vote for either Kise or Scott at least 3 times now, and I know you've asked this to at least 2 different people.

Whats your deal with Saber?

Answered above.

And what happened with Kise and Scott?

You switched your 'Why aren't you voting Kise' to Scott. It just seems like you're trying to lynch to quickly to me.

I only asked him to claim because one or two others asked him to

I recall only BM (but I could be wrong), but I still don't find that to be a very good reason to get a claim.

Vote: Saber

[Platypus_Dude]

Yes, i did not answer the rolefishing question for a couple fairly obvious reasons. You think that's scummy?

Since when is asking if the Godfather is a basic role or asking if there are other roles that make the cop say inno, rolefishing?

I'm happy with a Kise-lynch or a Scott-lynch today. I'm feeling easy going this morning.

And tomorrow we'll be back on Scott.

Vote Count:

Scott Brosius(1)

- Sando

saberwolf(1)

- Platypus_Dude

Kise(2)

- Battle Mage, BloodCovenent

Not Voting(9)

- Bekkatha, MafiaSSK, iPeanut, lobstermania, , DTMaster, xRECKONERx, saberwolf, Scott Brosius, Kise

Deadline:

24/8/09 15:45 Central Time

7 to Lynch
4 to Lynch at deadline

[Platypus_Dude]

Parents are keeping me busy today, and tomorrow is my birthday, so we're traveling around, and THEN my party is on Friday. Sorry, I thought I could finish the skim.

[Platypus_Dude]

I'm able to drop in and read some more.

What's this about me? I wasn't aware there was day mafia at the time of that post, and I had never heard of a JOAT, so I assumed a vig. Is that what it is about?

[Platypus_Dude]

I am going to be ready to go tomorrow, but my other game is at mislynch and lose, so I'm going to address it first. Sorry for whoever this inconveniences, but I will try to get caught up as quickly as I can.

[Platypus_Dude]

He was hammered? I'm thinking we still have a cop around, so good job for not claiming.

I should have the skim up for tomorrow, even though one person that wanted it was lynched.

[Platypus_Dude]

I suddenly have a lot of work irl, so don't expect the whole skim through of the thread. Sorry, I don't like to go against my word. =/

I wouldn't mind seeing the cop's results either.

[Platypus_Dude]

I now agree with what Scott said about the scum trying to hit the other. Unless the scum have a role-seeing power, the day mafia appears to be trying to kill the night mafia. This makes me believe that there are 3 scum per team as I don't think the day mafia would kill off the night mafia this 'early'.

As for voting, I believe it could be mylo. If I'm certain enough I will be voting though. I'm not sure for who exactly right now, but my gut says lobster.

[Platypus_Dude]

Uhhh, wow.

It may not be 'mylo' but the scum factions would have majority, which is almost as bad.

Either you read that last part wrong or I have bad grammar. Let me fix it anyways.

This makes me believe that there are 3 scum per team because I don't think the day mafia would kill off the night mafia this 'early' if they had 2-man teams.

As for the 'AtE', I was showing why I thought there were 3-man scum teams which I thought made it mylo.

because SSK is an idiot and couldnt even fakeclaim properly.

whats so hard to understand about that?

I'm fairly certain that MafiaSSk isn't an idiot. IMO, he either made a mistake, or he tried to get you lynched.

[Platypus_Dude]

Players that showed up more than once between both: Reckoner, Saber, Bekk, Kise, and DTM
Players that showed up more than once on lynches: BC, Reckoner, Kise, Saber; Kise and were on all lynches

I think if we put these two lists together we should have at least 1 scum, but I'm hoping 2. My guess is Kise and maybe Saber. I think the voting history definitely should not be forgotten.

DTM: Why are you still voting me?

I just noticed that saber never said he was town, or even not neutral, after MafiaSSK called him neutral, and post 825 seems suspicious looking back on it.

[Platypus_Dude]

I like the Kise and Lobster lynch almost equally, but the people on Kise's wagon worry me.

What do others think of saber's reaction to SSK's result?

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Vote Count:

Kise(3)

- Sando, Bekkatha, lobstermania

lobstermania(1)

- saberwolf

Sando(1)

- Kise

Platypus_Dude(1)

- DTMaster

XRECKONERx(1)

- BloodCovenent

Not Voting(3)

- iPeanut, Platypus_Dude, xRECKONERx

6 to Lynch
4 to Lynch at Deadline

Deadline:

2/10/09 13:35 Central Time

[Platypus_Dude]

Why should it matter? I knew SSK's story was bogus, so I dismissed it and ignored the contents of it. He made such a lousy liar that to sift through any of his posts would be meaningless, especially now that after we lynched him he was confirmed scum, making everything he said a lie.

I think most people's reaction to someone calling you neutral when you're town is to say that you're town (that's a scenario). You, however say that SSK is obviously lying and don't try to disprove him in any way.

You are trying to prod me into revealing my alignment and/or role by asking me and others questions about the results claim by SSK [which was clearly false], hoping that in doing so I am either forced to give it up to save myself or I slip up and reveal something for you to use to your possibly anti-town needs. It's rolefishing, and I don't like it.

I don't care about your role, it's your alignment I'm worried about. I also don't see why it's a big deal to tell us your alignment anyways. If you're town, you aren't giving anything away by saying you're town, if you're neutral it's late enough in the game the scum shouldn't waste a kill nor the town waste a lynch, and if you're scum you'll lie anyways.

DTM: I believe it is 6 to lynch, but 4 at deadline.

[Platypus_Dude]

Though I do not see any danger then on why you wanted me to unvote when it's 6 to lynch. Scum doesn't control half the population yet, I think, so a quick lynch would not have occurred. I understand it at 4 votes, but not 6. :<

I asked why you were still voting me. I didn't see a reason for you to.

Too lazy to read the whole ISO on Kise right now. I'll get around to it later.

[Platypus_Dude]

While they may be giving you a headache, at least they're keeping the game more active.

Side note: Kise's playstyle is giving me a more pro-town reading then scum, which bugs me (hes currently going to be lynched or my read on him is wrong).

With Kise being townish to me and BC and DTM being clear enough for now, I think lobster and Bekk are scum. Same team? Not sure. Please let me know if BC cleared Bekk, but I remember it as Bekk just not being Night scum. I realize Bekk came out of nowhere from me, but I'll try to make a case even though it's mostly gut. I also realize that I was into a Kise lynch just a few posts ago, but I wasn't paying as much attention to this game as I should have.

Vote: lobstermania

[Platypus_Dude]

Lobster: I don't really have a case on you. I'm following my gut on this one. Why would people just jump on your wagon? Kise is/was closer to being lynched, so the only reason I would have for 'baiting' people to vote you was if I was his scumpartner trying to avert his lynch.

Are you claiming VT or just town?

While currently Kise's actions look more pro-town, does it convince you that his case from the previous day is cleared by these actions?

I'm not sure what you mean here. Would you mind rewording it?

[Platypus_Dude]

I have been busy the past 3 days, so I'm getting caught up now. Sorry.

[Platypus_Dude]

Nice, Night gf. I am for the mass-claim I guess. Maybe it would be wise for the doctors to not say if they are day or night though?

BC: If it were just a few claims I'd argue the order. I'm not going to claim in this post because I need to get back into the game (and see how many people are for claiming). I would also like to point out that I was the first one to vote Lobster and I stayed on his lynch, even if I wasn't on for the last 2 votes.

[Platypus_Dude]

I remembered BM as a VT. I see I remembered wrong. =/

[Platypus_Dude]

Ok, I'm claiming. I'm a vanilla townie. I'm not sure how or if I can expand on that, so yeah.

[Platypus_Dude]

I'm still thinking there is scum in either iPeanut or Plat.

Assuming the Night Mafia is still alive and there are no more godfather's on their team, that's about the only possibility. The other is DTM fake claimed and bussed. It's possible, but I find it unlikely.

[Platypus_Dude]

Reck: There was no Night Miller claim.

Sando: The first thing I thought was that a mafia would claim miller of their mafia alignment. Day maf claim day miller, night maf claim night miller.

DTM: The mass claim order was to help find the last night-mafia. I was merely pointing out why I was not the last night-mafia.

I understand the main case on Bekk, but what is your case on ipeanut. I believe that he was the one who presented the mirrored setup for the town in the mass claim.

The mirrored setup wasn't hard to realize, and I don't think that pointing it out was that pro-town.

The only way Bekk is scum is if the night mafia has 2 godfathers. I find that incredibly unlikely. That said, it should be down to you, me, and iPeanut.

[Platypus_Dude]

EBWOP: I missed this last page. Sorry, I'm reading it now.

[Platypus_Dude]

DTM: You aren't really doing anything to defend yourself, so I'm even more convinced you're scum. Sadly, I may not get on tomorrow, so I won't be voting right now.

Not sure what else to say, so I'll try to be on tomorrow, but I likely won't.

[Platypus_Dude]

The last part was unnecessary. Yes a pat on the back for after the game, but we as townies will recognize your township based on actions. Addressing yourself as the person who lynched the godfather is redundant in it self.

Seeing how I found myself apparently suspected to be the most likely to be night scum, I don't feel it was unnecessary.

Yet you weren't the one who did the work and brought it out to light. Ipeanut was legitly working on the setups since his ISO 22. The township got the day/night element with the day/night doctor from BM and the unconfirmed night doc who blocked BC. You see hints of it from CB's flip.

We didn't confirm the real potential of the mirror setup until today when Sabre died as Day Cop, and we actually had a confirmed one instead of SSK. The only way you could know about this if you had advanced notice as one of those roles or if you were scum and saw the mirroring from the recent flips.

When you have a role called the Night cop (I believed his claim), and you find out there is a Day doc, it is safe to assume there is a counterpart to those roles. It's the easiest way to balance this type of setup, so I assume the mafia teams are also equal. I may be wrong, but that's what I believe.

[Platypus_Dude]

DTM: You've been calling me Playt for a while now, and it's bugging me a little to see that mistake made that many times in a row, is it a typo or are you calling me playt?

There is something called distance/busing. It's a concept that that scum sometimes uses to trick the town. This argument is used against me as possible day scum candidate.

I'd just like to clarify this. What scum team do you think I'm on? If you think I'm a night mafia, why would I bus my only teammate? The next day (today) the night mafia would be narrowed down to iPeanut and me (still assuming that there was a night miller making you town). One of us would be lynched and either I died, or I'd be killed by the day maf or lynched. The other option is that I'm day scum. If you believe that, why are you so persistent on asking why I defended myself?

There is also the issue that no one called you your suspicion.

No one came out and directly said I was there suspicion. You agreed that the purpose of the mass claim order was to find night scum. I was on the top of it. BC also wrote above it: "This is the claim order that I suspect."

Saying that you were being attacked

I never said I was attacked, I said I was suspected, which is different.

It just reads as paranoid defense over a small detail.

I had defended myself against your case so I felt no reason for your vote to be on me.

[Platypus_Dude]

I'm sort of waiting for BC to address DTM before I hammer (L-1 right now?).

[Platypus_Dude]

I would have hammered you already if I wasn't still waiting for BC to recognize you. I would prefer a quicker answer so the game doesn't stall further.

[Platypus_Dude]

DTM: I thought I pointed out why it was horrible play to vote my 'living partner'.

When you should have done it in the first place as well.

I'm not sure if you're suspicious of Reck for this, but if you are, it isn't scummy. It is more 'laziness' for not doing the math, and you yourself did the same thing.

I can't really imagine only having 1 mislynch in this setup (which is what would happen if you were found guilty), so I feel even more confident in hammering.

vote: DTMaster

[Platypus_Dude]

Please explain why I am night scum for hammering, and what I did wrong. Also, an answer before night would be nice.

I'm not really holding it against reck, but I certainly don't see it as a town tell.

Did you mean Reck or me?

[Platypus_Dude]

Want to clarify on that a bit? My idea on it would spill out something that the scumteams have hopefully not realized yet.

Would him clarifying reveal what you're thinking and thereby tip off the scum?

Still trying to figure out the best way my faction can win.

[Platypus_Dude]

Might as well get this over with.

Vote: No lynch

[Platypus_Dude]

I haven't really been paying much attention recently (if it wasn't obvious), so I'm not sure if Kise could be day scum. From my little understanding, Reck could be town and just has the wrong person, however, that seems unlikely.

I'll try to get some reading done now, and I'm busy tomorrow, so it may be Friday or the weekend before I'm caught up.

[Platypus_Dude]

Looking back, it seems like I could have been bussed by DTM. It doesn't seem like it mattered if day scum claimed yesterday (if they had the intention of winning) because they decided if the game was going to be a stalemate or town or day scum win. No clue why ipeanut claimed.

That was my quick reread with a few thoughts. I still need to read farther I think.

[Platypus_Dude]

The word 'faction' is applied to a group of people who know each other.

I've never heard that for people to be in a faction that they have to know each other. Secondly, at that point in time, I wasn't sure of how the town could win. I wanted to leave the option of claiming scum open if I needed to, and saying 'town', for example, when we could have ended up claiming for real would have ruined that.

Reck: I just want to clarify: You think I active lurked all game, so you read me as scum. Bekk lurks practically the whole game, and you read her as neutral. The difference between us is the 'active' part and Kise looks more pro-town right now? I would like to say that I don't think I actively lurked at the beginning of the game, but I will admit to doing so near the middle and at the end.

This post just reeks of non-committal scumminess. Doesn't really take a stance on anything "haven't been paying attention", "not sure if Kise could be day scum", "Reck could be town[/b]", "that seems unlikely".

I'd appreciate if you'd let me reread before you called me 'non-committal'.

I'm only going to be focusing on you two in my reread. Tell me ASAP if you would like me to look at more.

[Platypus_Dude]

Reck: The point was to respond to your comments while I reread instead of just rereading.

all you did was straddle the fence and not take a strong position either way.

Thank you for calling me non-committal again before I've looked at all the facts and formed an opinion.

Kise: I've looked at the definition, and I still don't think you need to know anyone in your faction to be a part of one. I'm planning to finish rereading before tomorrow night.

[Platypus_Dude]

EBWOP:

Reck: I looked back over your post after rereading a bit, and I don't really know which post you were referring to (I assumed it was my last one, but it could have been 1210 or 1211). Could you clarify?

[Platypus_Dude]

The purpose of 1210 was to say that I needed to catch up and that I would reread. For 1211, I just felt like posting.

[Platypus_Dude]

Bekk

: I went back and forth on your alignment after my reread. Sometimes your lurking felt genuine, and others you came back and repeated things that were said. Then, there is Kise. Kise-scum would have an easy time looking townie when replacing in. Reck already claimed day-scum so the lynch was semi-setup for tomorrow. Despite that, I read him as town. I’m going to say more pro-town for Bekk/Kise.

Reck

: I read you as town most of the game. I liked your early play and into the middle, however, near the end you get a little sloppier, and I'm not sure why. You’ve been on

every

lynch, which irritates me to death.

What has changed since post 1151?

TOWN
BloodCovenent
xRECKONERx
Sando
Platypus/iPeanut

SCUM
Bekkatha
DTMaster
iPeanut/Platypus

You had Bekk as scum, and I’m assuming that you had me as town if iPeanut was scum, which he was.

Another factor is whether I think scum-Reck would claim day scum and argue well enough to get the lynch away from him so he can win. Whereas I think it was too risky for town-Reck to do it. Tell me if I’m wrong, but I think people playing as scum are more likely to take a risk than if one was town.

Overall, I think you’re scum. I’m willing to let you respond before I decide to vote or not.

[Platypus_Dude]

I absolutely hate myself right now for being this stupid and lazy.

I couldn't find anything against Bekk so I just listed her as town. So, I needed to make a 'case' against Reck so I would have someone as scum.

I miscounted the number of scum lynched because of how many townies died. I feel more confident about Reck looking at his 'arguments' and the stupid things I said.

[Platypus_Dude]

I personally feel that most things I've done wrong could have been avoided with some more effort. However, I also think that I've mostly been careless and not scummy. There is a difference.

Seeing how the voting is going to start, I might as well get mine out.

Vote: Kise

You've definitely played well since you replaced in, but you're up against someone who has contributed to lynching nearly the entirety of both mafia teams.

[Platypus_Dude]

Sorry to the town (Reck it isn't your fault).That was a good deal my fault as I was lazy and not into it enough. Near the end the game was slow and unappealing. Later on, the game picked up, but I was swamped with work. By the time I thought I should be replaced I was starting to go under fire and I thought that would end up worse than me staying in.

Reck, you played great. I had this feeling that somehow Bekk was just an unfortunate townie until you had me check back at the lynches.

Kise, great job to you too. You had a good balance of 'sympathy' for me and blame. I truly felt I should have been lynched over you.

DTM: You helped throw the town off Bekk well. You had a nice claim, but the balanced setup was your ultimate demise.

BM: I don't really remember what you did that well, but I remember you read as extremely townie to me.

To the unmentioned: I don't remember the middle of the game too well, but no one played bad. I would not mind playing with any of you again when I'm more focused on the game. >_>