/in-Vitational Game 4 (Game Over!)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

omg not shabba i really wanted to play with her

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lets lynch charter, but not tell him why.

vote charter

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why were you disturbed by that rofl? is endgame and day 1 quite similar in terms of play in your experience?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

solid logic there

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is anyone around right now?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hmm

unvote

tajo totally scumbag

done.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lawls

xyl so scum

vote xyl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I lawled

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@Iam

"Rofl and VP are still scum, but Pooky has given us absolutely nothing and that needs to stop."

Well, that statement kinda seems to say you believe Rofl/VP to be scum, but u dont want to kill them, but rather want to kill me, you say nothing about my alignment but say you'd rather kill me. imo you seem to want to kill what is in your mind a noncontributor over two scumbags. Which does seem rather untownly.

PS. What exactly do you want me to give you? You seem rather upset.

@KMD,

So you agree with Iam that rofl/VP are scum, but you'd rather kill me in a fit of righteous rage over my perceived noncontribution than go after the people you believe to be scum?

@Tajo, stop hating, the alpacas will not like it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wait i just reread tajo's pos.


"Im preparing a big post for tonight with wagon analysis and such. I think I have a decent idea of at least two scum with how things went out yesterday.

In the meanwhile Ill contribute with the Pookyhate. Post or perish. "

that got me giggling a little.

So all three players voting me either have solid scumreads on TWO other players or a decent idea, but are choosing to hatevote a noncontributor without even explaining what they want me to contribute?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

um KMD,

iam said:

"
Vote: PookyTheMagicalBear

rofl and VP are still scum, but Pooky has given us absolutely nothing, and that needs to stop. "


and you said in the next post:

"Vote Pooky

I agree with Iamasarian2. "

which I thought meant you read his post and agreed with it, including the part about rofl and VP being scum.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think kmd/iam/baltar are nice picks for scum.

and charter.

but mostly because he's charter.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'd put baltar higher than either kmd or IAM on the list of "i think are scum" tho.

mostly cuz after yesterday you'd expect the push to be for baltar due to the whole gooncop pointing at baltar all day yesterday. instead iam opens up with this comment about how VP baltar is still scum then pushes at me with a vote. a kind of draw up anger at this lousy lurking bear in the corner while covering his ass in case baltar gets run up from yesterday's stuff and promptly lynch. then his partner kmd blindly jumps in after him.

thats probly the best reason for voting me while implying baltar's scumminess in light of what happened yesterday.

ofc this whole line of conjecture depends on baltar's scumness, which I find quite likely.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Kmd, don't act dense, I said perfectly well why I think you're scum.

you're scum for voting me WHILE at the same time saying that Baltar is scum.

Because of everything that happened yesterday, Baltar is the obvious lynch, there should be tons of heat coming down on him, instead today starts and you begin by saying something to the equivalent of

"Well guys, Baltar is a scumbag, but hey look! a giant elephant in the room that doesn't TALK! let's lynch HIM instead!"

Which imo only makes sense if you're a scumbag trying to divert from Baltar, trying to stroke the fires of blind hate at a lurker so that the town forgets about Baltar while simultaneously covering your ass with your statement in case the town ignores you and lynches baltar anyway.

then you could be like, "well I did say that guy Baltar is scum".

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yosa, you scum?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oops

i forgot i had to say something clever here.

so im gonna think of something clever to say

but if ya'all think of anything ya'all wanna ask me, go ahead and shoot.

i'll probly be sober enough to answer.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thesp+charter totally scumbags

not an OMGUS.

for real

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

reasons:

thesp tries too hard

charter doesn't try enough

ya'rly.

solid read.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ekim also scumbag

fo sho.

no such thing as criminal absence! only thing criminal is going around and shooting people at night!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cuz pooky is town

duh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i believe rofl over iam.

I would lynch Iam today and rofl if Iam flips town.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

there are no jesters zu, this is a semi-open setup.

I'm totally protown. cuz I said so. Thesp is so scum tho. Trying to lynch Pooky. The only thesp that would try to get pooky lynched is a scumthesp, cuz townThesp knows better.

I throw out the both innocent case of rofl/iam because the odds of a scumroleblocker blocking our jailblocker resulting in bungled results is astronomically low.


I believe rofl over iam because iam feels fishy to me and I think he basically bungled a counterclaim. Plus rofl just feels townish to me. plus I don't like how he decided to play his jailkeeper role tho that could be just personal preference.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh yea

vote Iam

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pooky terrible choice

pooky town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

news update:

pooky still town

pooky lynch still very bad for town.

for serious!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@zufaul, u should read the thread before you throw random accusations out at people.

@serialclergyman, you really think a mass-claim will break the setup when we've yet to hit a scumbaggo? really?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm innocent

iam is obvious scum

you guys are being snowed.

there's no point for me to claim

there isn't even a case on me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

these random-ass last second bandwagons ALWAYS HIT TOWN.

I DONT HAVE A CLUE WHY YOU GUYS KEEP LETTING YOURSELVES GET DIVERTED LIKE THIS.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

no seriously

i'm town.

you guys need to figure out whether rofl is pro-town or not since apparently you're hinging the entire bloody game on it.

the best way to do that is to lynch Iamu. If he shows up town then u get Tajo/Rofl tomm easy.

I'm tired of the BS "well what if the scumblocker hit the jailkeeper" comments, the odds of that are tremendously low.

lynching me gets you another dead townie, and worse of all it gets you NOWHERE in determining whether rofl-tajo-VP-Yos is a town group or not.

Get your heads on right.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

REAL CLAIM: VANILLA TOWNIE


FAKE CLAIM(JUST FOR ELVIS):

American International Group:

If you are ever lynched, you will use your massive overexposure to the overstressed financial system to blackmail the Government into bailing you out.(Instead of being lynched, half the people on your bandwagon will be sold into sex slavery in China to pay for the loans needed to bail you out)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

YOU SHOULD BE VERY CONFIDENT IN MY TOWNINESS

SCUM POOKY NEVER GETS LYNCHED.(UNLESS HE DOES)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

R U SRS BALTAR?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

stop voting me then

im innocent!!!!!!!!!!!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Ah...right, right. Yeah, not used to playing with a hider.

But, yeah, that's actually why it's so dangerous for hider to breadcrumb. If scum figure it out and he's targeting town, they can kill that town and get 2 for the price of 1; if scum figure it out and he's targeting scum, and they have a roleblocker, they can roleblock him and then let him assume the scum player as town, and confirm that scum player as town later. (1 scum, confirmed as town, usually leads to a town loss in endgame.)

Hider resolves before Roleblocker, and thus is immune to roleblocking.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this game really sucks

cuz i think tajo is town

but I KNOW i am town.

=/

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

unvote

vote tajo

im really innocent.

really!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and obligatory *glare* at Yosa

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why does everyone think im guilty

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

vote roflcopter

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i am wholeheartedly behind to lynch rofl->yos->thesp/zu thing

they mad scummy. tried to kill poor innocent me.

where is rofl's invest?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thx elvis

i know u gots my back

we gun get dem scum guuuud!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

We're not lynching Pooky.

this post is full of win.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is the way i see da game

these 4 are like beyond reproach:

charter
elvis_knits
Kmd4390
PookyTheMagicalBear, replacing alexhans N1

ekim is probly innocent.

my order of scummiest to least scummy for people i think are scum are:

Zu
Thesp
VP

We should have 3 lynches so i'm not so worried about that.

tho the extra person we have allows us to shoot once at night, so really 4 kills we gots.

and I'd love a Zu lynch followed by Thesp vig =)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea kmd, if any of those peeps on da tajo wagon(which iis like almost all of us good good people) had voted me insteada him, i woulda been deads and town would be a lot worse off(towns are always a lot worse off when they lynch pooky*). So I'd think everybody on that tajo wagon = innocent and thesp/zu = de scummy scums.



*for reals yo!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i like baltar as town cuz he coulda lynched me if he was scum and lynching me woulda been bad bad for the town.

plus i dont think rofl would've fakeclaimed and pointed to 2 scum as his innocents. besides he was only really lover-linked to yos.

still

zu/thesp must die

vote zu_faul

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thesp so scum

thesp so dead

we so win

go town forevas

vote thesp

wall of text will not save you scum scum!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what i would like is a charter treestump followed by a baltar lynch.

my um argument is simple,

this was the wagon that almost lynched me:


PookyTheMagicalBear: 6 (iamausername, populartajo, roflcopter, Thesp, Yosarian2, zu_Faul)

4/6 of them were scum.

this is the wagon that almost lynched baltar:

VP Baltar: 6 (ekiM, iamausername, Ojanen, SerialClergyman, Thesp, Xylthixlm)

all of those are town.

This is the wagon that ended up lynching Xyl which took place instead of baltar lynch:


Xylthixlm: 8 (charter, elvis_knits, PookyTheMagicalBear, populartajo, roflcopter, VP Baltar, Yosarian2, zu_Faul)

As you can see, it has all five scumbags on it.

So the scumbags voted 5-0 against Xyl and for Baltar. And they voted 4-0 against me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if you guys really want me to dig more evidence out why baltar is obvscum, i can. but i think this is a pretty compelling case.

plus im kinda lazy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh yea, and the scumbags voting 5-0 for baltar and against xyl means scumbags obviously have an interest in who get lynched, if they didn't why pile onto xyl when they can just get baltar instead? so obv baltar scum

if elvis want me to say more tho, i will keep talking. ^^

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

u srs?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is like video evidence tho

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the certainty of his scummitude lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im still town

dont kill me plox

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is about winning

not about losing

lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol

i read every convo on this thread

i just dont talk much

which right now is more because i'm sick than anything else. I'll try to put together a post when I'm not feeling so drowsy.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am feeling much better today, though still sick a bit, incoming posts soon on why Baltar is definitely scumbaggo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Scum Strategy in games like this is pretty simple, at the beginning of Day 2, the scum controlled 5 out of 15 roles, a solid 1/3 of the town voting block. They needed to snow only 3 town voters into their group to get a lynch off on someone on the town side, which they did manage to do, getting a lynch on Xyl with all 5 scumbags voting him. A concentration of scumbags on one single wagon over another wagon in a day like this is risky, and something that you don't do unless you need to bail out one of your teammates, and that teammate was VP Baltar, who had been run up hard during that day, with what we now know was a fully town wagon on him.

On day 3, the scum lead was even stronger, with a full 5 scum votes still rocking and on the cusp of getting to lynch or lose, at that point they could've made a serious wagon on any player in the game, if they aren't worried about piling onto one player on day 2, why would they be afraid day 3? To say that they were forced into piling on to me is incredibly silly, the scum could've made a push for anyone in the game, and they did it on the seemingly weakest and most vulnerable town player in the game, me. There is no point for the scum to make a push on a fellow scumbag that close to Lynch or Lose when they have shown themselves to be brazen enough to all pile onto one townie to get them lynched as early as day 2.

These aren't scum who want to play patsy or cutesy with us, these scum want to win, they went for our throats on day 2, except on day 3, VP Baltar made either a mistake or a calculated gamble. His argument that if he was scum he would've voted for me is a bad one because lynching me DOES NOT give the scum a guranteed win, but if he survives endgame by using THAT argument, it DOES give the scum a win. I'm almost certain that Baltar set himself up as the not likely to be scum player by voting with us, he got scared of the heat and decided to try to blend in with the town.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I broke down each of the 4 scumbag's play in concern specifically to VP Baltar, the following are quotes each scumplayer has made with regards to VP Baltar.

Yos on VP Baltar:

“Nope. VP is defiantly one of the people I could see lynching today. He wouldn't be my first choice because there are other people I'm more convinced are scum, but he'd be a reasonable lynch.”

The sort of non-commital stuff a scumbag will say about another scumbag, a sort of dodge out of voting him while maintaining he’d be a good lynch.


“I thought VP Baltar was scummy yesterday, but I'm really uncomfortable with the line of reasoning people are using. They're basically one of the below:

1. "There are two people who were attacking him yesterday who we now know are pro-town!" Translation: the scum killed someone last night who was attacking VP Balter yesterday, except no one seems to want to put it that way, I guess because if they did then it would be obvious that it was a weak WIFOM argument.

2. "A goon cop was voting him!" Do you really think she had a guilty on him? It seems pretty clear to me that she didn't, reading her posts. She didn't "waffle" on her initial vote, she came out hard against eikM and stayed there for a long time.

That being said, I'm really not happy with VP's level of contribution this game; he hasn't been lurking, but he hasn't really been scumhunting much either. VP, who do you think is scum, and why?”

Again, a passive-aggressive defense, it attacks people who are attacking VP Baltar without actually defending VP Baltar, it instead distances by putting the heat on Baltar while prodding him to make some scumhunting talk.

Zu_faul on VP Baltar:

“VP Baltar's wagon grew way too fast to not suspect some baleful influence (well, this is somewhat regardless of his alignment - scum would want to be on that wagon either way). The way he attacks ekiM somewhat clears VP for me (a bit like with serialclergyman). His somewhat random attacks on me don't look too much like scum either.”

Same type of passive-aggressive crap Yos did, he doesn’t come down hard either way about Baltar’s alignment but DOES spray suspicion all over those who voted for Baltar. He then goes on to use baltar’s actions to say he doesn’t look like scum without any justification.

“That said, I could settle for a Baltar lynch. The Xyl lynch looks more tasty right now.
I am going to bed now, we'll see if the new day brings a new wagon, a lynch already, or *gosh* maybe even a claim. If it brings none of these, I guess I'll hammer.”

Zu_faul now shifts away from the slightly leaning defensive on baltar to “fencesitting on Baltar/Xyl but he lands on the Xyl side, with no real reasoning. It’s pretty clear it’s not just a coincidence he landed with all of his scumbuddies on one side of the Xyl/Baltar fence.

“I got a feeling Baltar is not the way to go. I doubt he was investigated by Ojanen. She did not even mention him until others voiced their suspicions of him.”

More zero-logic defense of Baltar from his scumbuddy

Tajo on VP Baltar

“VP Baltar - solid points overall but something of his tone doesnt sit well with me, will need to iso him.”

Noncommittal BS read, something you make up cuz you don’t want to say anything one way or the other.

“Im still meh about Yos but I dont recall any single town feeling in all the game from faul and vp.”

“Liking the Ojanen baltar case. Ojanen points are strong and baltars responses (to iam also) are lacking. Disliking Baltar more and more as he answers. (I totally dislike excuses as I need sleep, my memory doesnt work) If fast, the wagon feels decent except for thesp and xyl. Fishy L-1.”

So he likes the case, he thinks baltar is scummy scummy scum, but he ends up voting for xyl instead of baltar because baltar is his scumbuddy. In fact, if you read his next few posts, he instead votes for Xyl because Xyl walks off the Baltar wagon to the Yos wagon because Xyl thinks Yos is scum with Baltar. In fact, if you look at Tajo’s post number 21-24, you’d see he basically just walks away from the Baltar case he initially supported onto Xyl with complete crap reasoning.

“Third, the Baltar wagon has its merits but I think people are suspecting Baltar for the wrong reasons which makes me want to reread him, the case against him and decide the fate of this avenue. This day, some of the points against him are weak. For example, the impression I got from yesterday was that the Xyl wagon was not produced by a baltar wagon derailment. Xyl himself was the one who deactivated the wagon by a)trying to switch it to Yos and b)looking super scummy. Serial argument considering Xyltown must mean Baltarscum is something I also dislike.”

Again, the same passive-aggressive defense of Baltar from another of his scumbuddies, Tajo casts suspicion on those who suspect Baltar for “the wrong reasons” and weak points. He also goes on to say the Xyl Wagon was NOT produced by a Baltar wagon derailment, which clearly IS the case since ALL FIVE SCUMBAGS JUMPED ON THE XYL WAGON TO DERAIL BALTARWAGON. His argument that Xyl derailed the Baltar wagon is absolutely terrible considering Xyl was trying to go after another scumbag in Yos.

Roflcopter on Baltar:

“i really don't like the baltar wagon. serialclergyman had a serious case of having his cake and eating it too in posts 772-773. joining the baltar wagon, and the turning around and slinging mud at ekim for joining the baltar wagon? i don't think there's a more obvious way to admit that you know the wagon you're on is bullshit.”

“i don't think there's any chance that ojanen investigated baltar”

“i don't like the return to the vp baltar wagon. i think he's telling the truth about his role.”

“
people who are town
yos
baltar
elvis
charter”

“anyway, i'm a vanilla cop. vanillas: yos, baltar”

Again, a 0 logic defense of baltar followed up by a cop-claim with innocent result on Baltar.



All of the 4 scumbags defended or skirted around the Baltar issue, some of them quite brazenly. It's pretty obvious imo that these were all cases of Scumbags protecting their Godfather.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Lastly, in an endgame scenario as its presented here, there are only two sensible plays to make as a town, either

A) No Lynch due to an even number of players alive with no claimed nightkill/protection roles

or

B) Charter Stumps to prove innocence followed by a lynch.

In no case should a TOWN player have just moved into a vote situation because it opens the game up to possibly another town player jumping on and then charterscum jumping on to avoid.

VP Baltar didn't even consider this. He's not town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

1) that's pretty simple, i didn't have the chance to claim yet, and there's no reason to look suspicious hammering out of turn when there's still one more day to play. they probly thought it'd be pretty easy to lynch me considering how the day was going.

hammering quickly on a 6 person wagon is always going to look scummy, that's why they didn't do it. My points are not about them NOTHAMMERING, its about their ACTIONS AGAINST each of us.

in your case, all 4 scumbags walked onto a xyl wagon while making Bullshit statements about YOUR alignment, effectively derailing your wagon while lynching an innocent Xyl.

In my case, all 4 scumbags eventually ended up voting me while saying that I was likely scum. Pretty obvious that means I'm innocent and you're scum.


2) All of those quotes are comments made by the scumbags on a variety of times, not all during your downhill slide, a slide that was by the way, very driven by the scumbags.

3) The only person that KNOWS charter is not a scumbag is either charter or a scumbag. A town Baltar would not know for certain that baltar is scum, in fact a town baltar loses nothing from having Charter stump just to be sure as a mislynch at 4 alive will make us lose just as much as a mislynch at 3 alive. The fact that you didn't even CONSIDER the possibility of charter being scum shows that you are scum with extra info.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

statement 3 should read:


3) The only person that KNOWS charter is not a scumbag is either charter or a scumbag. A town Baltar would not know for certain that charter is town, in fact a town baltar loses nothing from having Charter stump just to be sure that charter is innocent as a mislynch at 4 alive will make us lose just as much as a mislynch at 3 alive. The fact that you didn't even CONSIDER the possibility of charter being scum shows that you are scum with extra info.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

when the pressure is on someone, they will say things. that's true of both town and scum.

are you trying to get somewhere with that BS statement? trying to rally up that "anger"? lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

1) lol my memory was bad there, so i did claim. Your argument is still terrible, not every person that the scum fail to hammer at lynch -1 = scumbag. There are MANY reasons why the scum would choose to not hammer me, saying that they didn't hammer me = me being another scumbag is TERRIBLE logic. The reasons include:

1) Not feeling threatened, wanted to keep me around since i wasn't really contributing
2) felt i was an easy endgame push lynch
3) thought i could easily be fooled into voting for a townie at endgame
4) thought they would be overexposed by a hammer on me.

the list goes on and on. Saying that because a player did not get hammered by the scum MEANS the player is scum is HORRIBLE LOGIC. Because then it means every person who gets up to lynch-1 should be lynched, as if he isn't lynched, it must be because he's scum and the scum don't want to hammer him. Your reasoning is absolute trash and is NOT similar to my reasoning.

What I am examining is what the scum do UNDER PRESSURE. Aka a bandwagon about to lynch one of their own, what do they do? They all pile up onto a Xyl-town wagon. What did they do when Tajo looked like he was about to get run up? almost all of them ended up piling onto a pooky wagon. The scum votes were spread all over the place PRIOR to the tajo wagon BECAUSE the scum didn't feel threatened. When Pooky was at 6 votes, the most votes on any other player was 2 on Iam, with scum votes stuck all over the place, rofl was obligated to be on Iam due to the claimcrossing, Yos was still faking his suspicion of serial, it would make no sense for a scumbag to come out of the blue and hammer when they didn't feel threatened and could expect a townie to do it for them. When Tajo was feeling the heat however, that's when the scum votes started coalescing on the easiest town target, aka me.

2) I call BS on that, I don't see all 4 scumbags sitting with their votes on you like they did on me on Day 3. The key difference here is they actually did derail your bandwagon and ran up Xyl. Whereas on me, they ran me up and tried to lynch me. trying to compare the two situations is laughable.

3) The only way a townie can guarantee that Charter stumps to prove his innocence prior to a lynch is to withhold his vote. If you actually meant what you said you would never have voted without actually getting a stump from charter.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Saying that I'm being "selective" or taking quotes from when the wagon is declining on you isn't really a defense.

because

1) Of course I'm going to select the relevant quotes from the scumbags for when they are talking about you, i'm not going to quote them when they are talking about some dead guy as that would be pointless.

2) When your wagon is declining/being derailed is a pretty crucial time, these scumbags all decided to defend you during this crucial time while running up Xyl? Jeez, sounds like scum helping out a scumbuddy in need to me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

1) No that's not the reasoning I am using on you. I'm saying scum are usually spread throughout wagons when they have no stake in who is getting lynched because concentrating all the scum votes on one person is a really good way to get caught and they wouldn't risk something like that without a certain gain, like saving their godfather from getting lynched.

2) Your wagon wasn't going to get lynched either way, but the point I made was that the scum derailed your wagon and built a counterwagon on Xyl and put all their necks on the line by all piling on against him in order to save your bacon. That's VERY different from just refraining from hammering you as it requires actively risking their own necks.

3) There was no heat on Tajo, all those reasons I said apply, sure in hindsight it seems like a pretty good idea to hammer pookytown, but those scum in that position made a mistake and didn't do it, to say that this proves that I am scum is terrible logic. In fact if you somehow use this logic to lynch me, then those scum making that decision would be making the RIGHT decision as it leads directly to a scum win. This line of reasoning from you is full of WIFOM.

4) I'm not certain of Charter's innocence, and I lose nothing from having Charter confirm his townieness, heck even if you don't assume my innocence, the TOWN loses nothing for making Charter treestump as the town only has one lynch left. Making sure charter is town by forcing him to treestump DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THIS TOWN HAS ONLY ONE LYNCH LEFT. Your vote would only make sense if you're a scumbag who doesn't worry about the possibility of charter-scum at all.

5) No, that's not what i pointed out, I pointed out they had passive-aggressive arguments that went against YOU and YOUR ATTACKERS, which attacked your attackers, they also miraculously DID NOT VOTE AGAINST YOU. On that crucial day 2, EVEN THOUGH Yos, Zu AND Tajo all suspected you NOT ONE of them voted you and ALL instead pushed onto Xyl instead. It'd wouldn't be suspicious if one of them did it but all of them? Pretty much gurantees you're scumbag.

Btw, good luck trying to flip that argument back at me cuz the crucial part, that they didn't vote YOU, doesn't APPLY TO ME BECAUSE THEY ALL TRIED TO LYNCH ME ON DAY THREE.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Hey VP

4 confirmed Scumbags joining Xyl wagon instead of YOUR wagon when 3 of them have stated they suspect you of being scumbag in order to SAVE YOUR ASS when 6 out of the 6 people on your wagon are TOWN IS NOT WIFOM. IT IS SCUM MAKING A SMART PLAY TO SAVE THEIR GODFATHER.

If people could say Wifom to every scummilicious play they made, we wouldn't bother playing this game, we'd be throwing darts at a dartboard and going WIFOM WIFOM.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I've already said that's not what I'm saying Baltar, MULTIPLE TIMES. NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU CLAIM THAT IS MY LOGIC IT WONT SUDDENLY BECOME MY LOGIC JUST BECAUSE YOU SAID SO.

if they were trying to save me, they would've run up somebody else, like they did with Xyl to save you. The scum didn't care if I died or not, but it's pretty obv scumstrategy not to lynch the idiot townie if the town looks like it's about to do it to you.

your joke emotional appeals are pretty bad. Here i'll do a joke emotional appeal too with assumption you are scum.

Look at this list:
ekiM (Vengeful Townie) - killed Night 6.
Thesp (Vanilla Townie) - lynched Day 6.
Kmd4390 (1-shot Vigilante) - killed Night 5.
SerialClergyman (Bodyguard) - killed Night 4.
iamausername (2-shot Jailkeeper) - killed Night 3
Ojanen (Goon Cop) - killed Night 2.
Xylthixlm (Vanilla Townie) - lynched Day 2.
Shabba (Secret Eternal Order of the Magic Train) - tied self to the railroad tracks Night 1.
Herodotus (Secret Eternal Order of the Magic Train) - tied self to the railroad tracks Night 1.
inHimshallibe (Vanilla Townie) - killed Night 1.
Claus (Secret Eternal Order of the Magic Train) - killed Night 1.
BridgesAndBaloons (Vanilla Townie) - lynched Day 1.


That's the list of every player on the town side who's contributed collectively over 70 pages of replies to try to win this game for the town. If you let scum-baltar with his crap logic and emotional appeals cause you to lynch poor PookyTown, I will be very upset with you.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

rofl only viable lynches were me and Tajo? let me refresh your memory, below are the votecount you cited:

Deadline: Approximately 4 days from this post.

Vote Count: 7 to lynch.

PookyTheMagicalBear: 6 (charter, elvis_knits, iamausername, Thesp, VP Baltar, zu_Faul)
iamausername: 2 (PookyTheMagicalBear, roflcopter)
Kmd4390: 1 (populartajo)
roflcopter: 1 (SerialClergyman)
SerialClergyman: 1 (Yosarian2)
zu_Faul: 1 (Kmd4390)

Not Voting: 1 (ekiM)


How could it be that the viable lynches at that time were me and Tajo when Tajo doesn't have a single vote on him?

as they saw it at the time, there was no threat to their team, hence why they didn't hammer me and decided to all spread out. When it was clear tajo was getting run up, that's when they all converged on me suddenly.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

gee whiz, i don't see any oppurtunity for a scumbag to hammer me in those votecounts when Tajo becomes a viable lynch, looks like people switched off me to tajo, those taking me away from the edge while making tajo a viable lynch. kinda kills your whole case doesn't it.

Unless you're honestly surprised that three scum sitting with their votes in different places didn't suddenly synchronized make a move on me when i'm at 4 votes and tajo is at 3.

cuz you know, that wouldn't look suspicious at all, 3 scum suddenly coming at voting me just cuz tajo got to 3 votes.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

are you looking at the same votecount i'm looking at? cuz i'm not seeing this easy lynch the scum had when tajo was under threat. unless you're going to say that they could somehow coordinate a 3 vote move onto me psychically when tajo only had 3 votes on him

lol good luck with that.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

especially when those votecounts are happeniing so close together over a 3 day period.

If you just isolate mith's posts and go by votecount, you can see that from the time Tajo came under real threat, which was when he became the leading wagon, to when he got lynched, those 4 scumbags all piled on top of me one by one but did not have the numbers to lynch me. Sure you could've joined them and lynched me, but i guess you thought that'd look pretty suspicious and stayed off. I'm sure your scumbuddies will give you hell for it when you get lynched/lose.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so the scum were supposed to instantly see this analysis and all extract themselves from their positions all over the voting arena and converge on me quickly? how do you even coordinate that between 3 scum with no means of communication? you're in fantasy land right now.

I'll tell you what happened, the scumbags decided to lay low and look innocent since they all piled onto one wagon on day 2 to save your ass, so day 3 they decided having all 5 of them on the same wagon would probly be a pretty dumb idea unless they absolutely needed to do it. Hence when PookyLurkerTown got run up by mostly townies, they decided collectively it was a good idea to scatter all over the place mostly putting their votes on people who wouldn't get lynched and let pooky get hung by his own laziness. Hence why Yosa/Tajo/Rofl were all on different wagons, 2 of them(yosa/tajo) putting their votes where they knew it wouldn't make any difference to get away from the pookywagon which was going to look pretty bad on day 4 when it lynched pookytown.

But look, a miracle happens and people start backing off the pooky wagon onto Tajo, at this point its too late and a mass synchronized move of scum votes onto pooky at the last second when Yosa/Rofl/Tajo are already committed elsewhere would look suspicious as hell, plus it's kinda hard to coordinate such a vote-move when you can't talk, plus the town can sorta see you doing it and REACT. So they moved slowly onto pooky, one by one, and by then it was too late, tajo had been run up and you were stuck waving goodbye to your scumbuddies as they stared at you from the other bandwagon.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what are u even smoking

u honestly saying its easy for 3 scum to make a coordinated vote shift from randomly all over the place onto me in a small window of time without a town member voting me seeing this and deciding to walk away from it?

Wouldn't that look just a bit SCUMMY AS HELL THE NEXT DAY?

lol

heck if they even voteshift, how are they supposed to know the other scum will voteshift onto me as well? they aren't psychic lol.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hindsight is 20/20, could all three of those scum have known tajoscum was going to be lynched? he only had 3 votes on him. Could all three scum have known that if tajo would be lynched then they would in turn be quickly lynched? You're making quite a lot of assumptions here. Assuming that all three scum KNEW that tajo was going to be run up AND that this would lead immediately to all three of them being run up is a pretty big leap of the imagination. Heck not only would they need to see that as you insist, they'd have to know every other scum saw that AND would be online to execute the quicklynch. Your scenario is looking quite preposterous.


a SUDDEN voteshift(one designed to try to quicklynch me to derail TajoWagon) if seen by town players on my wagon would probly lead to those players walking off my wagon as they would be alarmed why these people who were all over the place would suddenly converge on pooky, hence why they made their move slowly and deliberately onto my bandwagon.

If your key argument for my scumminess is that 3 scum didn't feel a sudden need to switch to me simultaneously or very quickly togeether to 3-vote quicklynch me becuz one of their buddies became the second leading bandwagon of the day, it's a pretty damn weak one.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok, point at a time period where i had enough votes on me for them to quickhammer me AND when tajo was under serious threat of being lynched.

cuz if you look at the votecounts, that just isn't there.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

day 1 i hadnt replaced in yet

day 2-3 i was lazy cuz im super lazy like that.

day 4-6 were um, kinda just steamrolling stuff.

yea i play differently from when its a crucial gamedeciding vote when i might be possibly lynched for a town loss than when im feeling lazy and bored. Besides it's a lot easier to analyze things once you know what the scum team is.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

o wow

u saying i aint using full words and capitalizing?

dem be fighting words.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol

well it was a joke

lol

i didn't actually want to lynch you without telling you why.

but it would've been hilarious if it happened.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol

this is the equivalent of the mafia don carrying the bloody knife sitting in the courtroom with his giant cigar, his entire crime family turned state's witness, a mountain of evidence against him charging him with racketeering, murder, extortion... and he points his finger at the teddy bear in the corner and says....

"LOOK! THE TEDDY BEAR IS LAUGHING!!!!!!!!!!!"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

meh

there's no way charter's scum

vote VP Baltar

im gonna feel like a moron if charter is scum lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

well i wanted to wait for charter treestump to be official just in case lol.

but i figure there's no way baltar can be innocent.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i mean if charter is lying and scum, then obv his treestump wont actually count.

Though Im like almost 1000% sure baltar is scum lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

see

towns that trust Pooky = 100% win rate.*

Awesome job everybody



*fo realz yo.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

SC's case on Tajo really turned this game around

that was pretty awesome.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the pussy bodyguard

rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wow

town miraculously wins after pussy bodyguard fails to protect hot female cop.

that's epic storyline.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

imma lynch xyl every game i see him from now on