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BLAH REPLACING, gonna run through the thread and see what pops out. I hope to just get involved quite quickly and interacting with players, makes things easier. Ask any questions or stuff, I may have missed things in my read...
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Yep. J-Fox and YamiJoey. She hasn't been around long enough to know his name unless they have been talking pre-game. So bleh! Haylen, awesome scumhunter ftw.Wickedestjr wrote:Has anybody figured out who's scum yet?
How serious was this?
Voting for yourself is bad, don't do it etc etc.
Wicked's question are mostly useless but at least he's trying. Nice pouncing on the 'slip' btw, I'd give it more credence if I thought 2 scum was especiall likely, but I don't see it in a Large game.
Haylen = Mastin, apparently. But moving on.
Post 95 makes me want to smack my head against a wall. Why did you vote yourself here? And you hate being in the spotlight but voted yourself. WAT. Does not compute.
Fucking hell wicked 'why aren't you the serial killer' is an awful question to ask someone /facepalm. Does make some good points though. Feels different to when I played with him before, he was town, I was scum in that game, but yeh he seems to have improved.
SQUIRREL'S 106 is stupid, even if you don't like his posts ignoring him is bad play.
Mafia aren';t the only ones who bandwagon. Bandwagons are great and should be used more often.Katniss wrote:Nothing is necessarily 'wrong' with bandwagoning, but mafia do use that as a tactic to pile up votes on a person, for a quick lynch. On the other hand, as seen in this day 1 it appears to be a good thing, because it can start up more serious discussion.
I didn't vote, because there are two options I had to pick between. I'm also giving them a chance to defend themselves, so I can get an accurate read, before using my vote.
I don't understand the second part, why not put down a vote on one of them? It can always be removed, it's not there for the day. Plus it adds some pressure to them.
Furry is :goodposting: so far.
Solemn: Do you believe chainsaw defence to be an accurate tell? Have you used it before in games to find scum?
120 is goodposting.
Asking questions is worse than voting for yourself or just fucking around for the first 2 pages? Don't they distract us from any real evidence too?Mr. Squirrel wrote: I disagree. Asking stupid questions just spams up the thread and distracts us from any real evidence that other players might have or any scummy actions of theirs. Plus, it just makes you look stupid and detracts from any credibility I give your posts in the future.
Last sentence is BAD. I can understand your frustation I guess, as the question originally was pretty pointless, but meh ignoring people is bad.
Don't understand katniss's vote and unvote of wicked. He didn't really do a lot in that time to make you unvote, and I don't like the reasons for you voting him in the first place.
Hey How do you distinguish between scum and badtown with this method though? It'd also be nice if you said which you thought he was.
Big giant fucking wat @ Vistasoldier's first post(I think) 155. Defending yourself is scummy now, apparently?
Agree w/ cruelty. Good vote too. Haylen's response of it being early game is a terrible excuse.
Hey Malpa, nice to see you just checking in dude. This is like a cool hotel, and stuff. Idk maybe post some content dude?
'Stop going for an easy lynch' says haylen. YO Haylen I'm really happy for you and Imma let you finish butVote Haylen
CrueKnight wrote: I'm just voting for pressure. I do not have any intentions to lynch you. So can you quote it? We can then look from there.
By saying this you remove all pressure from your vote. Happy Birthday.
Wicke/Squirrel makes my eyes go sleepy. I find the whole argument pretty uninteresting.
Agree that it's a FAIL. But, mostly b/c what he HOS'd for wasn't scummy, just not optimal play.furry wrote:Need to get caught up, but this is a fail of a HoS. Pressure votes work wonders. People play differently under pressure
Wicked has twice now pointed out that he's never been scum. Noted.
Katniss stop being so indecisive. Fence sitting is scummy.
Agreed. I think it's probably quite useful as a tell.torquez(sp?) wrote: Imo, people have a tendency to overuse smileys and make light of a situation they otherwise would prefer to not be in
Haylen instead of pointing out rule breaking, maybe post content. Also what was the point of pointing that out in the first place?
Agreed with the Haylen votes. More wagon now quickly.
234 is a post that's not needed. Perhaps you should have spent that time re-reading the thread instead?
HAYLEN DOES DO OMGUS, in 239, lmao.
Just read her in ISO after this. Absolutely nothing. V happy w/ my vote.
259, Deathnote you disagree with the Haylen votes then? Why?
Haylen wagon is bad, furry? Why? She's done absolutely nothing.
Post 273. Wicked you're willing to vote yourself? WTF??
Why are we removing these things when they're both scummy?Furry wrote: For the point - Cruelty, removing everything regarding lurking/fluff, what do you think of Haylen?
Eh kinda skimmed the last page or 2. Rhinox has came in with a bang, his sig was also the reason I replaced in.
Anyway quite happy with my haylen vote at the moment. This is not a pressure vote, this is a 'your lack of content and lurking have been scummy' vote.
Katniss's lack of position on everything, pretty much, is worrying, though some of her posts do give me a generally newb town read.
Wicked seems town so far too.
CK is also fairly scummy and I don't mind the wagon on him.
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I don't believe I did knock fuzzy handcuffs, now with the most important part of the post oput of the way..
Well I'll flatly disagree with the first bit, but obviously your personal experience, is well your own. She's posted enough non content posts, and zero content.
I don't think asking to remove things from a person's play is helpful though, I mean I guess I see what you're after just don't think it's very helpful.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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Because it just doesn't work like that. You can't just remove an aspect of someone's play, that's scummy, it's nearly impossible to then analyse the rest of their play. It's everything together, and in general I don't think there should be concrete opinions on scumtells, per se, it all depends on the context.Furry wrote:
Why?Faraday wrote:I don't think asking to remove things from a person's play is helpful though, I mean I guess I see what you're after just don't think it's very helpful.
Its worthwhile to see what is considered as equivilant or greater then lurking, the more you can force someone to give opinions on why X > Y >> Z the better chances you have of catching them trying to save partners later by switching stuff up.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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Looking forward to it..Haylen wrote:Im not defensive.
Clearly there needs to be OMGUS intent for it to be OMGUS. There wasn't. I had real reasons.
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You say that butttttttt, I find that hard to believe.
So? How does a playstyle that's got flaws correlate to an easy lynch. I don't think you're an easy lynch at all, you're certaintly not a newbie, and you're not zwet or someone of that ilk, so the easy lynch argument is quite frankly absurd.I consider myself and easy lynch because my playstyle has flaws that I am still working on.
And I am actually in the middle of 3 analysis posts right now. I had to restart this one because my computer restarted and I lost everything i was working on, including my coursework.
And @ Solemn, yeh I was just wondering, even Tar himself, who's the one who coined the term( I think) said it's not very effective without some flips.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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You don't mention this weird read of Haylen in your full catch up post. Explain this.foilist13 wrote:Ugh, sorry its taking me so long to catch up. I'm on page ten now, and so far Wicked and Crueknight look pretty scummy, sort of a weird read on Haylen. Not really sure what to make of her.
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it literally took me an hour to read everything and type it up while eating my dinner. I mean come on ffs, too many people not doing anything in the game.
Haylen if she has anything wrote should post it. Ugh this is annoying. Malpa's surely lurking too. Post plz.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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Information instead of analysis. Basically active lurking.Haylen wrote:
What's IIOA?TI wrote: A scumilicious mixture of IIOA, varying excuses for not posting, and a complete and utter lack of dedication to scum hunting.
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In fact this post is another great example of it.
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Also it means you're aware of said meta and can manipulate it.The Inquisition wrote:IIOA is information instead of analysis.
Using meta as a defense only works when others have attacked you using your meta or if it's really easily provable (e.g. you always vote self in RVS). Otherwise, it does nothing for me.
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http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 50#1931550The Inquisition wrote:oh, and of course I overlooked the possibility that haylen IS SK. It's a pretty common SK play.
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why those 3?Haylen wrote:oh yeah. Way to jump on the bandwagon.
How sure are you that I am false claiming.
If i were to kill anyone tonight, it would be either CrueKnight, Cruety or WKD.
Fuck off. My name isn't Hayden. Carry on calling me that and i'll policy kill you tonight.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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My pointHaylen wrote:Scum arent powerroles. Scum are scum. End of.
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Your head.
^that signifies it went over your head. I'm clever like that.
COOL STORY, BRO. btw thnx 4 the lovely contribution to the game.And you and Cruelty are at the top of my list. With TI. You were worse than those guys from Cr3t1n's.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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Obviously you never lynch a claimed power-role, just b/c they claim a power role means you'll never lynch scum day 1 as they'll claim a power role.
WAS MY POINT. Also grudge kills are retarded and you should feel bad for even thinking about them.
Anyway apparently you've been hammered. Let's see what ya flip.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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I didn't accuse you of lying about your reasons at all, as far as I know (quotes plz, I'll apologise if I have). But you're quite clearly around now, and have been able to post one liners for the past day or 2.
What's the correct attitude? Telling people to fuck off when they mis-spell your name and telling players to die in a fire. Oh golly, I'll take that on board.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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I know what you mean, but that's still not a great attitude imo. Might as well try.Haylen wrote:Oh well, you know that state of mind where townie just give up after being attacked from all sides. Take that into account. Nothing I said would have helped in the slightest.
I wasn't trying to piss you off, notThe correct attitude is to not talk about things that you dont understand and to not piss off other players for the hell of it.reallyare you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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I don't really think Furry is that scummy for defending the lynch, before it happened. I mean it's something I tend to do as scum, declare the wagon bad or w/e but I dunno he/she feels fairly geuine to me in the defense.
Torquez needs to post something too, he's lurking like a motherfucka' (Note I've not statistical evidence to suggest motherfucka's lurk)are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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Wait I see I've missed a post from him.
Why do you think that's scummy Torq? I mean it's a soft claim of not being a mason with Furry, as far as I know. hardly narrows down posibillities too much.
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Malpa's playing like he did in my modded game where he was scum, little activity, doing nothing etc. Guess I need to see a game where he was town to see if this is standard behaviour for him though.
Is the case on him anything apart from his VI'ness?
Don't see the case on Furry at all, apart from defending the lynch she's been fairly town, although I think judging by the sheer number of inactives/badness it'd not be terribly hard to look town if you post enough and it makes some sense. Similar read on cruelty atm.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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My vote is currently on one of them [lurker], in Torquez/his replacement. Since that seems to be going no where despite his utter lack of contribution..Rhinox wrote:faraday wrote:Malpa's playing like he did in my modded game where he was scum, little activity, doing nothing etc.
well?faraday in post game thoughts from Mini 872 wrote:Okay early thoughts.
LURKERS = BAD. Malpascp should have been lynched with a fucking vengeance IMO.
And yeh, my face was a picture when I saw him in this game
Unvote Vote Malpascp
Is this fucking serious? So b/c ONE townie does it, it means it's not scummy? Really Wicked? Oh god this is unbelievably bad.Wicked wrote:Why you voted malpascp for doing something that a townie did that we lynched.
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The only game where he's flipped town that I can see is Large Normal 92, modded by jebus, which he replaced in to. It's not exactly illuminating as he has like 10 posts in it
He was scum in Lovers mafia , Out in The Wilde. Everything else is on-going and can't be mentioned.
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THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAID. Just b/c a town person does something scummy and flips scum does not invalidate the scum tell. To suggest it does is bad. For example Active Lurking. Haylen was guilty of it. It is scummy, just because Haylen flipped town doesn't mean I won't think it's scummy. There's no reason for town to lurk, they shouldn't be afraid to contribute, whereas lurking is beneficial for scum.Wickedestjr wrote:
Lurking/not contributing is a stupid reason to lynch a player for in general anyway. How is that opinion "unbelievably bad"?Faraday wrote:Is this fucking serious? So b/c ONE townie does it, it means it's not scummy? Really Wicked? Oh god this is unbelievably bad.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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I was sort of hoping maybe he'd contribute, or that he was working on something. Malpa's had all game to do that.Wickedestjr wrote:
Why did you choose malpascp then? You are voting him for not contributing, but cades is guiltier when it comes to contributing. I don't understand at all.Faraday wrote:"]
I've only got one vote.Faraday, if malpascp's behavior is scummy enough to vote for him, then why not vote dana or cades?
But erm, yeah.
Unvote Vote Cades.
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Scum want to kill people who are suspicious of them, iirc he was voting you @ the end of the day.CrueKnight wrote:Looking through the thread I noticed:
Why is this? Why does it all point to me all of a sudden because Scott died?Faraday wrote:Scott Brosius was an odd kill choice btw. Not sure if it makes CrueKnight more likely to be scum, probably slightly does I think. Sure it's WIFOM but meh, doesn't mean it's entirely useless to speculate on.are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?-
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If we have 4 scum we should mass claim. Hmm having seen lovers + a vig tho I'm not sure if we're looking at 4 scum at all.
I want to vote SolemnJ. I don't like him at all around deadline believing a vanilla claim for no reason etc, the wicked lynch was bad. Gonna have to go back, might look at the BW analysis even tho it's not usually v helpful to me.
We need cades etc to contribute, in all honesty he should have been lynched yesterday.
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