New York 115: Wickedestjr's Large Mafia (Game Over)

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/confirm

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Vote: Battle Mage

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Cwf123, what is your avi? I have been staring at it for literally 5 min and have realized that it is simply hypnotizing. Might I ask what in the name of everything holy it is?

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I will not avatar-up. Lynch me if you must!

Works for me!

Unvote

Vote: Sc00t

[Asaclardy]

*SIGH*... So much drama... and random voting with seemingly random reasons... Where will this take us? FIND OUT... TOMORROW!

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Karma, I was jk. I love all the drama of these large games. They wouldn't be fun without drama. About BM? Well I just think he's being extremely good-natured about being publicly executed, regardless of weather or not he's scum. And I truly don't care if anyone lacks an avatar. If you're skimming through what people write, you're going to miss valuable information and make poor decisions. It's not their fault if you skim over their posts. Keep in mind, this is not directed at you, Karma. This goes out to all players. Thanks!

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But, vezokpiraka, what if, on the first day, we kill scum and you? Catch my drift?

Unvote

Vote: vezokpiraka

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Hmmm... Enticing offer, Karma.

Unvote

Vote: Adrien C

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You know, I think our gut instinct was right, no matter how band-wagony it was.

Unvote

Vote: Battlemage

Listen to the gut, man. It's sometimes right. We'll just have to see how this plays out.
(How's that for reasoning?)

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Oh, and about the Mitsuru thing, definitely an unofficial FoS there. You guys are good at arguing (especially BM). But the gut suspicion about Battlemage remains. His name is just so... belligerent!

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You know, I think our gut instinct was right, no matter how band-wagony it was.

Unvote

Vote: Battlemage

Listen to the gut, man. It's sometimes right. We'll just have to see how this plays out.
(How's that for reasoning?)

Why? Please state your case.

Tell you the truth, that was my case. Gut instinct. Who knows if it's right? Battlemage does. But he's not gonna spill the beans, is he? So until then... Pure instinct. If you don't like my methods, do something about it.

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SSBF, I think your scum-o-meter is set to day 6. Just because I have no reasons for my votes doesn't make me evil at this point in the game. So far, we know next to nothing, so there little to no justification in your voting for me. Unless BM is a fellow scum of yours and this is your defense. Think about it.

You weren't on the original BM bandwagon.

You almost immediately get on my back when I decide to vote for BM

Therefore:

FoS: SSBF

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Unvote

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Vote: No-Lynch

(for now until I think things through)
Sorry guys, if it seems like I'm not contributing much, it's because I'm not. This is my first game and so far I've been overwhelmed with deception and craziness. Thanks for understanding my n00bish ways. I'll watch for now and see how the pros do it, providing input when necessary. Don't view my actions as a scum going into hiding, because it's not. I just need to listen, think, then post. Not the other way around like i have been doing. Thanks again!

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MOD: I'm going on vacation tomorrow and will be back monday night. I may or may not be able to get on, so if you don't hear from me, that's why.

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I'm BAAACCKKK!!!!

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MehPlusRawr wrote:
Don't lynch me, guys! I'm a self-protecting JOAT turtle! Wicked informs me that this is a normal role for him, so that's why this is a normal game!

Double over-reaction? Looks like it to me. One more vote (I think) and day one will be done. Ah, what the heck.

Unvote

Vote: M+R

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Asaclardy, do you just realize WHAT YOU'VE JUST DONE!?

If you hadn't noticed, 12 other people besides me voted for M+R. But in classic SSBF fashion, you put the blame on me for some strange reason.

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Hi, all! Just a few quick questions I must throw out there. Is a guarantee that there are special town roles? Is it a possibility that there are only regular town roles? If not, what are some common special town roles. And have we ruled out the possibility of special SCUM roles? Thanks.

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Votecount 38:

DemonHybrid – (6) – Mafuyu, guy0, danakillsu, BlazezRb, RichardGHP, Vezokpiraka
Mitsuru Kirijo - (4) - CJMiller, silverbullet999, q21, DavidParker
Toon Fighter - (2) – Chevre, DemonHybrid
BlazezRb - (1) - Mitsuru Kirijo
kunkstar7 – (1) – Karma
CJMiller – (1) – Adrien C
Asaclardy – (1) - Sucrose
Not Voting - (5) - Toon Fighter, Asaclardy, kunkstar7, foilist13, Battle Mage

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch!

This guy is totally scum. Rolefishing and claiming for no reason whatsoever.

My questions weren't role-fishing. As I said before, this is my first game so I don't know the possibilities of special roles, town or scum. If you're town, it would be in your best interest to explain the rules to a noob on your team, right? I truly have no clue what some of these terms are. Is it a crime to ask for help? Apparently...

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A vig could be possible; indeed, vigilantes fit into the definition of a Normal Game.

A second mafia, in my opinion, does not.

Therefore, I believe that there's either a serial killer or a town vigilante.

This helps, thank you.

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So, Blaze, if you are a doctor, and we believe you, you won't be lynched today but you will be killed tonight, right? And if you're a scum trying to cover it up, which is very likely at this point, you survive? Not on my watch...

Vote: Blaze

Tell me if my logic is flawed, it makes sense in my mind.

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I feel uneasy about how in control BM is, honestly.

True, but he has some good points...

Oh, and

Mod: is there a reason for the lack of votecount recently? Thanks.

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Oh ya, and I'm a sparkly vampire PR. My role is to sparkle so bright that the character I choose is blinded for the entire day. (/sarcasm)

Really, guys? What is with all the claims? Oi!

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So BM lied... Why would he lie unless he was scum. So BM fessed up... Why would he do that at all? He may be lying there and he actually is a PR. But now he's... suicidal??? BM: "Do I seem like scum to you?" Us: "You're right, sir. You DO seem a bit scummy this evening!" No... It just doesn't sound right. Why would a scum say that? (That is essentially what he's saying.)

Unvote

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Just a thought... If BM is town, I have a strong feeling DH is scum. Their intense rivalry at this point tells me that they're not on the same team. Unless it's all just a show. Wow. This entire day has been one big WIFOM!

If BM is scum, though, I will have to reconsider...

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L-3, guys. Don't do anything stupid.

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Demon, your fiercely wanting to kill BM yesterday gives me the chills. Especially now that we know he was town. I'm not going to do anything with my claim yet; I want to see how today plays out first.

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You have failed to explain your vote ^.

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Demon, your fiercely wanting to kill BM yesterday gives me the chills. Especially now that we know he was town. I'm not going to do anything with my claim yet; I want to see how today plays out first.

I don't care that he was town. He outed 3 roles and was causing pure confusion, using his veteran status as a piper flute. I'm glad he's dead, that's what policy lynches are for.

True, his actions were stupid, and now that I think about it, why would scum want to kill a role-fisher? Great, you ruined my reasoning...

EBWOP: Basically, I'd rather have one dead vanilla townie than an alive, destructive, influential AND wrong one.

That's sounds either logical towny-speak or tricksy scummy-speak. We'll just have to wait and see I suppose...

He doesn't have to, unless he comes under fire for valid reasons. Which, as far as I can see, you don't have. You've got some 'splaining to do.

Thank you.

/pass

No thank you...

Thank you for that immense insight Oh Wise One. Anything else you would like to add??

You're welcome. And no... that is all.

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@Adrien C
Remember, I already said that I wasn't rolefishing. This is my first game and I was wondering what roles were common in games of this type. Now BM, on the other hand, brought out 2 roles before committing suicide. Ya, it was good that he died before he could cause more damage. He was an extreme towny rolefisher. And even if I was fishing, have I caught anything yet? No.

Your Richard FoS was prolly a good guess. You're right, two of his three suspicions have been wrong, but this kinda looks like an OMGUS to me.

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EBWOP: Not a violation

5. Don't quote role pms. Summarize them instead.

Could you please quote the exact instance of your claim and role summery?

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Not that close?? Some mafia-cross-kills are bound to happen at some point...

If no mafia die today or tonight, I am going to kill myself. This is getting OLD. I think, like, 10 townies have died so far... (guess) This has to be getting narrowed down here.

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It was battlemage's dying wish we lynch q21. Maybo we should honor it. If this claim turns out to be hogwash, you know what to do, town.

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*maybe

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Woah, dude! Just got here and you already hate me, eh? All I'm saying is that you all have good points in the q21 lynch, but I'm trying to contribute by backing it up further. If there's no for more backing up, then why is he not dead yet?
Oh, and

Vote: q21

L-2

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Asaclardy, why would you vote q21 when we haven't had any clarification from the mod yet?

There's a difference between voting and dropping the hammer. I learned that the hard way.
BUT since we're at L-1...

Unvote

This would be a great time for a scum to hammer and potentially kill a townie. I shall try to be patient (no promises lol).

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Why would the scum bother killing q21???? They can keep him alive for as long as they want, forcing discussion in that direction and away from themselves, and while that's going on they can look for the other scum themselves or just kill townies, and if he is a powerrole the same thing applies. There is absolutely no motivation for them to kill q21, it's quite the opposite.

q21's flip will give us solid info on CJMiller and Sucrose. There is no way we're not lynching him today.

Let's see some votecount, so we don't accidentally hammer without knowing.

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...he never seems to have any original thoughts to back up his wagons.

What wagons?

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I would be very happy with a Mitsu or Richard lynch today. Slight preference for Richard.

Why those two, and why especially Richard? Also, why not q21? (Curiosity, not blaming.)

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In light of the clarifications, the connections between the three seem solid, but foilist's point about Q21's flip bringing confirmation on Sucrose and CJMiller still holds. But I think at this point a Mitsu lynch will be more likely to hit scum.

You seem sure MK is scum. Ok. So we have one scum in the bag. But if we take out q21 today, we may have 3 scum in the bag, right? Save the Mitsu lynch for tommorow, I say.

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@Richard: If you call a scumslip, you had better be ready to back it up with cold, hard evidence. Let's see some.
Here's what I think about the whole thing:
The people who make huge arguments over tiny insignificant things (Richard) are the most scummy here. Sure, the arguments sound logical, but when you look at the big picture, a little "scumslip", like the one vezok supposedly made, doesn't mean anything. In fact, from my pov, I looks like you made a scumslip, getting all worked up over something so small.

If I'm being too hasty, lemme know.

Vote: RichardGHP

Oh, and:

Mod: I'm going V/LA from Monday August 1st - Thursday or Friday Aug 5th or 6th

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[quote="foilist13"]
That is not a townie sentence right there. That's a scummy sentence trying to make sure you don't step on anyone's toes. "If I'm being to hasty?" Really? Townies don't ask permission, townies vote.

See THAT is a small insignificant thing. When I said "am I being hasty" I meant, "do you agree with my logic". You're twisting my words to your advantage and making a little phrase that came from my over-cautiousness into something large.

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EBWODP: Sorry about the unfinished quote ^

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That is not insignificant at all. Any scum player worth his salt can make sure he doesn't slip up on anything "big," so are we just to sit back and hope something like that happens? Of course not. The place where the scum are most likely to reveal themselves is in the little things. Post construction, attitude, the manner in which they shift viewpoints. That's how you find scum. Well maybe not you, but that's how I find scum an I believe I have found you.

Would you rather I be hasty and accidentally kill a town? Is that better than asking for an assessment of my opinions? I think scum have to dig around for the insignificant things in people because townies don't make huge scummy errors. They can't, by definition. When you have to blame someone for simple overcautiousness, you're pushing it!

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I'm back! Wow it's hard to believe Mitsuru was town. Oh well. And I forget, did CJ claim watcher? If so, when? I'm too tired to look at his iso right now .

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Are you retarded? it has only been brought up constantly over the past 10 or so pages of discussion... That was pretty much ALL of our actual discussion the past 2 days was the mass PR claim.

Sorry... Holy cow. I'm way out of it from driving all yesterday. I was totally thinking of someone else. I don't know who though...

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Gimme a day or two to regroup and catch up.

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Mod: No access for 2 days starting tomorrow. I'll be back friday.

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Right now it seems plausible that we have at least 4 scum alive, 2 Red and 2 Blue.

Unfortunately, yesterday's lynch didn't tell us much and neither did last nights kill. I'm truly surprised there has only been two cases of cross-mafia night kills.

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Vote Adrien

If you do lynch me, you should be ashamed of yourselves. I will not be claiming nor will I be moving my vote.

OMGUS? Yes. AtE? Slightly. Stupid? Pretty much.

foilist, I have justified my tunnelling, so find a valid reason to vote for me or remove your vote.

You had plenty of reasons but no examples.

Get 'er done!

Vote: Richard

L-2

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I'm not sure comparison to other games is a valid reason. I believe you that he was acting scummy in another game and that there are similarities in behavior between the games, but that could be purely coincidental. There's no real way of knowing for sure at this point.

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I'm just saying that there's a possibility, as there is in all meta cases, that it doesn't apply.

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So there are 2 scum left, one from each team. There are three votes out now. One vote is on a town, and two or fewer are on scum. Looking at my options, I see the fierce hate between Adrien and Vezok that has continued from the beginning of the game. *OPPOSING SCUM ALERT*. I think they know each other is scum so they're attacking each other to eliminate their opposing team.

Lets take them both down, one at a time.

Vote: vezokpiraka

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I haven't really gotten onto Vezok. I posted with his name in my post twice, once telling him to post evidence against me when he was tag teaming me with Richard and once when everyone was asking me to lynch Vezo, I said we can deal with him later, Richard is who we need to lynch. He's been hating me the entire game, but this is the first I've called for his lynch.

True. But I'm sticking to my reasoning.

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Oh, and L-1. I forgot.

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Hey! Sorry I'm late for group claim time! I'm VT.

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@Chevre: I'm gonna do an iso on Adrien and DP later. I'm too busy to do so right now .

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Ok. Adrien's ISO.

Post 22 Gave his scum reads. Included were MehRawr for lurking, Blaze for fishing, and myself (All 3 were wrong). Also unvoted Mitsuru

Post 44 Gives scum reads: Blaze, CJ, MPR, Mitsu ; and town reads: Mafuyu and EGL (5/6 are wrong)

Day 2 post 57 "Look at me, I'm so towny" -ish

Post 67 Richard (mafia) gets on his back.

Day 3 post 89-90 accuses Richard of TVing (which was totally valid)

Posts 95-141 Kinda TVs Richard. Slightly hypocritical... but with good reason.

and that's that.

Posts 22, 44, and 57 are SUPER scummy.
Posts 95-144 are strongly towny.

I don't know what to think on this guy...

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Gunna do an ISO on DP soon here.

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I agree with DP. Now a quick hammer tomorrow (if there will be a tomorrow) would be easy to see happening because it would mean an instant win for the scum.

I am at a loss for what to do right now. Ok. @All: Who do you think is most scummy here? Who is most towny?




Oh, and

@Mod, what happens (who gets killed) at the end of the deadline?

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I will wait until after Asa's ISOnalysis on DP to vote.

Sorry but that's going to have to wait til the weekend. Just started classes and I'm flooded in work.

[Asaclardy]

I really don't like this dude. I'm going to hammer DP today after I think things through. Now if I do hammer now, we'll have three alive tomorrow. Adrien or Chevre tomorrow, okay?

[Asaclardy]

^This was super scummy, but fine, I give in...

Vote: DP

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Good night.

[Asaclardy]

Wow, TF! Now we know EXACTLY who's lynch you're gonna push today!

Anyways... Why did nobody die tonight????? Did the one scumbag left forget to submit his night action? Or does he not want us to know who he is by lynching his mortal enemy? Ugh... WIFOM of doom...

Anyways, If we mislynch today, we're screwed. And we need some input. If we don't get any info, someone's gonna ninja at the deadline and then we lose. Everyone post their opinions on how things have gone and should go in the game. Go.

[Asaclardy]

Interesting observations. I say if Adrien hasn't posted by... say... the 15th, we give him the lynch for going AWOL. We'll have to consider everything if we get to that point.

[Asaclardy]

Please make it tonight please.

[Asaclardy]

Well, if the activity stays this low, I don't think we have any chance of catching any scum. Anyone wanna do an ISO on anyone? Anyone? Anyone?

[Asaclardy]

Well, I guess I'm screwed today. I guess this'll be the last day. Scum win.

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I told you I was N00bY VT... Sorry team. I let you down...