New York 116 - Prozacs Large Normal - Who won?

[Tazaro]

Belated EBWOP: Oh wait, Mr. Sandman prefers Moth. I misremembered. That's three people who prefer moth. I don't think there's a fairer choice for whom to claim first than moth, especially since he's willing.

[Tazaro]

Vanilla townie. Mr. Sandman is next.

[Tazaro]

In fact, I don't care if either Stef, Zorblag, or Mr. Sandman take the initiative to be next. I'm assuming Toon and Toogeloo are nothing but masons ???

[Tazaro]

So Sandman is next unless he's too slow.

[Tazaro]

@Troll, with my post refering to Sandman at the beginning of the day, I was suggesting to Sandman that he needed to contribute more; I didn't say anything to Stef because I didn't know if she was even there to be reading my suggestions.

[Tazaro]

I'm looking at the scum candidates, and I don't know which could be labeled as probtown. My suspicions are of Stef and Mr. Sandman. There contribution levels worry me into thinking of how scum thrive on lying low.

[Tazaro]

Double post: of course, I was excepting Toon and Toogeloo from my jailroom line-up of scum candidates

[Tazaro]

Double post: of course, I was excepting Toon and Toogeloo from my jailroom line-up of scum candidates

7 - 2 - me = four scum candidates, and the key is Find Towno. How are we going to find Towno?

[Tazaro]

@Tazaro, when did you decide that you should drop your suspicion of the masons? As of yesterday you weren't interested in taking them off your list at all. Also, if your top suspects are Stef and Mr.Sandman then why was it you wanted mothrax to claim first? Is current activity level the only reason your using for your suspicions at this point? Based on your reason for suspecting Stef and Mr.Sandman more than others it looks to me like it is but I think that there's a fair amount more to look at.

I had thought about mason claims as an interesting scum gambit, but as I came to see this as a day that's about figuring out who's

town

, I think that the way to decide who's town is to factor in how pro-town or not peoples' posts have been. Toogeloo's sum total of postings looks town, and Sandman's and Stef's postings certainly don't look the same way. Though you might assume that I called for mothrax to claim first because of my thinking his posts were the most scummy; that is not the case: I called for mothrax to claim first because he was the most logical to do so based on his willingness, and I did not care about doing the popcorning in order of suspicion, which is evident because at one point I said that I didn't care in what order Sandman (top suspect) or Zorblag (not top suspect) or Stef (top suspect) claimed.

[Tazaro]

Double Post:

@Tazaro, when did you decide that you should drop your suspicion of the masons? As of yesterday you weren't interested in taking them off your list at all. Also, if your top suspects are Stef and Mr.Sandman then why was it you wanted mothrax to claim first? Is current activity level the only reason your using for your suspicions at this point? Based on your reason for suspecting Stef and Mr.Sandman more than others it looks to me like it is but I think that there's a fair amount more to look at.

I had thought about mason claims as an interesting scum gambit, but as I came to see this as a day that's about figuring out who's

town

, I think that the way to decide who's town is to factor in how pro-town or not peoples' posts have been. Toogeloo's sum total of postings looks town, and Sandman's and Stef's postings certainly don't look the same way. Though you might assume that I called for mothrax to claim first because of my thinking his posts were the most scummy; that is not the case: I called for mothrax to claim first because he was the most logical to do so based on his willingness, and I did not care about doing the popcorning in order of suspicion, which is evident because at one point I said that I didn't care in what order Sandman (top suspect) or Zorblag (not top suspect) or Stef (top suspect) claimed.

But still, as a strategy, how should we Find Towno? By process of elimination based on who is most scummy, which I've tried to tackle, or based on directly figuring out scumness?

[Tazaro]

I honestly don't know how to get a read on Zorblag, but he seems to be very actively getting information, which makes him look the most town to me out of the group of four I've alluded to, and I will say that mothrax doesn't post memorable stuff, though he's active enough and so is a person who is in between Zorblag and Stef/Sandman in terms of my suspicion.

[Tazaro]

I honestly don't know how to get a read on Zorblag, but he seems to be very actively getting information, which makes him look the most town to me out of the group of four I've alluded to, and I will say that mothrax doesn't post memorable stuff, though he's active enough and so is a person who is in between Zorblag and Stef/Sandman in terms of my suspicion.

But the person who's posted the most forgettable stuff during the game has been Stef; I said he was conservative in the past, but in the context of voting for Lowell and whatnot, it was much too conservative. I hate to see when people vote and just slip on by and don't get the attention they deserve; I agree with Sandman that tubby's hammer was premature.

[Tazaro]

I honestly don't know how to get a read on Zorblag, but he seems to be very actively getting information, which makes him look the most town to me out of the group of four I've alluded to, and I will say that mothrax doesn't post memorable stuff, though he's active enough and so is a person who is in between Zorblag and Stef/Sandman in terms of my suspicion.

But the person who's posted the most forgettable stuff during the game has been Stef; I said he was conservative in the past, but in the context of voting for Lowell and whatnot, it was much too conservative. I hate to see when people vote and just slip on by and don't get the attention they deserve; I agree with Sandman that tubby's hammer was premature.

Not that I'm suggesting that the hammer of tubby was a scummy move by virtue of being premature; the prematureness was not a fault of the hammerer but I say that it was premature in the sense that there was the missed opportunity that should have happened first, an opportunity that could have been filled by what people could have talked about before the hammer.

[Tazaro]

I know I'm usually making some content, but I'mma be busy today.

[Tazaro]

@Toogeloo: My town pick is Zorblag.
@Zorblag: (i) I did in fact see that Toogeloo's posts were good participation, so the mason conspiracy was one possibility out of several, though it was not the best of ones when compared to the others I've been looking at. (ii) Popcorning is efficient to get the process of mass-claiming over with, but even if a scum goes first, that person can always claim a safe claim, vanilla townie, so I don't think going first gives scum much of a problem.

[Tazaro]

@Toogeloo: My town pick is Zorblag.
@Zorblag: (i) I did in fact see that Toogeloo's posts were good participation, so the mason conspiracy was one possibility out of several, though it was not the best of ones when compared to the others I've been looking at. (ii) Popcorning is efficient to get the process of mass-claiming over with, but even if a scum goes first, that person can always claim a safe claim, vanilla townie, so I don't think going first gives scum much of a problem.

Double post: So, Zorblag, I don't, as much as you do, care about people claiming first if they happen to be the town's scummiest person. I have to consider who I personally think is the scummiest person, but I don't think it is needful for them to go first in roleclaiming.

[Tazaro]

In fact, what I said about the number of posts by Tazaro is a null tell. Just checked some of his games listed on his wiki and he's very active in all of them. I would definitely choose Zorblag as town above him

Well, now that it's school season, my activity is less than it used to be, but I indeed have felt a duty to post in my games everyday.

[Tazaro]

So this is Toogeloo's choice. I suggest that the person who votes for me next be automatically lynched by the town.

[Tazaro]

So this is Toogeloo's choice. I suggest that the person who votes for me next be automatically lynched by the town.

I will vote for the next person who votes for me and hope the other townies will have time to do the same.

[Tazaro]

Now, hear this. I was referring to the next person who votes for me right after Toogeloo as being scum. Why vote for me right after Toogeloo does unless it's to try to get a lynch on a townie who is now ready to be mislynched if people don't hurry?

Vote: mothrax

[Tazaro]

Maybe he thinks you actually ARE scummy, and doens't care about a scum threat. IF you pop up townie, then we can take your threats seriously. Also, that move was totally OMGUS.

vote: Tazaro

My conclusion from mothrax's voting for me after Toogeloo's vote was that Mothrax was scum because he didn't vote until after Toogeloo, even though he's using the talking point that my play hasn't been clean. What other conclusion could I draw but that he's scum?

[Tazaro]

Maybe he thinks you actually ARE scummy, and doens't care about a scum threat. IF you pop up townie, then we can take your threats seriously. Also, that move was totally OMGUS.

vote: Tazaro

My conclusion from mothrax's voting for me after Toogeloo's vote was that Mothrax was scum because he didn't vote until after Toogeloo, even though he's using the talking point that my play hasn't been clean. What other conclusion could I draw but that he's scum?

I.e., why didn't mothrax vote for me for his "reasons" before if those reasons are good enough to try to pass off a vote as legit? Now, I see that without the present votes' from the masons being changed to mothrax, there would only be one town left who could vote for mothrax and get a lynch before I'm lynched by the enemy. It's been a good game.

[Tazaro]

Maybe he thinks you actually ARE scummy, and doens't care about a scum threat. IF you pop up townie, then we can take your threats seriously. Also, that move was totally OMGUS.

vote: Tazaro

>_> ... if Tazaro pops up town, it's likely game over dude...

It's not a good time to be uncertain, man.

[Tazaro]

I'd really like to know what I did that made me look bad to you when it's game over.

[Tazaro]

Unvote: mothrax

I guess we'll finish the game soon and can exit gracefully with an undiluted lynch for me, and I assume that mothrax probably sees me as sh*t because I also play sh*t before.

[Tazaro]

Unvote: mothrax

I guess we'll finish the game soon and can exit gracefully with an undiluted lynch for me, and I assume that mothrax probably sees me as sh*t because I also play sh*t before.

Seriously, it must be bad that I thought that this was one of my best games in terms of not being a total spaz. I played not good but sh*t before, and maybe my spaziness is getting to me now because I really don't know if I should have concluded mothrax as scum; my hatred of being voted for clouds my thinking pattern.

[Tazaro]

lol, everyone in town looks like shit, if the game ends after today, I am kicking everyone on town team in the nuts for failing on the unwritten rule (of this game) of "Play to Win." It's been rather ridiculous this game.

Nuts want to be kicked because of the sh*t of moi; mine are ready.

[Tazaro]

lol, everyone in town looks like shit, if the game ends after today, I am kicking everyone on town team in the nuts for failing on the unwritten rule (of this game) of "Play to Win." It's been rather ridiculous this game.

Nuts want to be kicked because of the sh*t of moi; mine are ready.

...to be kicked

[Tazaro]

What else have you seen of me besides [redacted]? Nothing.

[Tazaro]

What else have you seen of me besides [redacted]? Nothing.

Though, I'm not saying that my meta doesn't need some work lol.

[Tazaro]

3 - Tooge, moth and TF

Not Voting - 4 - Zorb, Stef, Taz and Sandy

ModPorochaz knows it's about to end, and knows the count might as well just be a countdown without my name in front of the "3".

[Tazaro]

My idea of a Graceful end: all votes, without exception, that are cast get placed on me; and scum declare victory as soon as they vote for me.

[Tazaro]

My idea of a Graceful end: all votes, without exception, that are cast get placed on me; and scum declare victory as soon as they vote for me.

I raise my white flag. Cast the final vote.

[Tazaro]

There are reason(s) why this game may have been my favorite game out of all of my non-newbie games. One thing that is good was that I was scum, which was entertaining to me in this game. This was one of the most non-boring game threads that I have read imo.