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In post 51, Beck wrote:In post 38, Pine wrote:Serious note: Can someone explain the proposed lynch on DavidParker? Sounds similar to the attitudes I recall about Deity Kabuto.
Lynching DK is always the right thing to do.
In post 94, Beck wrote:So for anyone playing at home, here is why I'm voting zde
1. Suggesting a PL to begin with
According to you, Dk is someone who must be lynched as a policy lynch but suggesting a policy lynch is scummy.
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In post 107, Pine wrote:In post 92, Beck wrote:Pine The only thing aggressive from me is my scum hunting and i haven't distracted anyone. As for the case on zde, usually when people dont understand things, they would typically ask questions to try and understand. Clearly you have no interest in finding out the reasons or you would have asked about it already.
I don't like slandar's constant attempt to diffuse a wagon on zde, wagons are useful, this one is turning out to be useful.
What scumhunting? Please point out where you have done ANY. The case on zdenek doesn't count, because it's absolutely bullshit. Quit inflating your own usefulness.
@Slandaar: Not understanding a case isn't scummy, it's NOT UNDERSTANDING. And understood the acctual case just fine, I just find it completely weaksauce, and am at a loss to understand how it has built a wagon. Also, Jesters are verboten in Normal games.
Case on zdenek makes a lot of sense.
1.He goes for a serious policy lynch, tries backing it up, then says it was a joke
2.He immediately backs away from it after some pressure starts building up on him.
Case on Beck
My last post showed that his attack on zdenek about policy lynches was bad as he said he would do them himself if a certain person was playing.Marathon Game record
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In post 103, sorgster wrote:In post 51, Beck wrote:In post 38, Pine wrote:Serious note: Can someone explain the proposed lynch on DavidParker? Sounds similar to the attitudes I recall about Deity Kabuto.
Lynching DK is always the right thing to do.
In post 94, Beck wrote:So for anyone playing at home, here is why I'm voting zde
1. Suggesting a PL to begin with
According to you, Dk is someone who must be lynched as a policy lynch but suggesting a policy lynch is scummy.
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My votedidhave a reason. No offense meant but you were being hypocritical.Marathon Game record
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In post 217, Beck wrote:You honestly think that's a valid reason?
Umm re-look at my vote. I said my vote was a policy lynch vote, I didn't say it was a scumtell
PL a player because they were bad in 1 game is horrible
PL the most blacklisted player and someone who purposely trolls games and plays against his wincon, is the right thing to do.
Pretty sure it was bad in one post in that game. For some reason(not sure why) I thought he was inventor the whole game.Marathon Game record
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In post 218, Beck wrote:If I'm PL'ing zde and advocating a PL of DK, that isn't hypocritical, thus invalidating your reason for voting me
You are going for his pl? I thought it was voting him because of his policy lynch idea.
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No, I find beck highly suspicious. I'm just trying to get more people involved in this game.Marathon Game record
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In post 289, Revenus wrote:And scum should be shooting at people they think are PR, not people they think are just "town". In your scenario, it makes it easier for vanillas to do their job and lead town during day.
People who claim pr should be shot at by town too. There is a good chance scum would claim pr compared to vt because if they claim vt, town will take the risk. If they claim pr, they will have doubts about whether it is okay to lynch them or not.Marathon Game record
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In post 305, ThAdmiral wrote:In post 290, sorgster wrote:In post 289, Revenus wrote:And scum should be shooting at people they think are PR, not people they think are just "town". In your scenario, it makes it easier for vanillas to do their job and lead town during day.
People who claim pr should be shot at by town too. There is a good chance scum would claim pr compared to vt because if they claim vt, town will take the risk. If they claim pr, they will have doubts about whether it is okay to lynch them or not.
Disagree. Vanilla is the most risk free claim for mafia, and therefore also the most common.
In every game I've played in scum have claimed pr. Pr claims help make them seem more important.Marathon Game record
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In post 391, sorgster wrote:Beck I said it was advice. Also can you in one post put your complete case against those you are attacking with evidenceMarathon Game record
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In post 437, Zdenek wrote:In post 436, popsofctown wrote:Lynch all Liars. You claimed your first post was a joke because it was beneficial for it to be one.
Unless you can explain what's so humorous about sorgster's play in 1531
I was using the word joke to day that it was not a serious policy lynch.
Do you think that alllies/gambitsby town are scummy?
First you have evidence with it and call a policy lynch.
Then you claim it was a joke.
Now it is a gambit.
You say something different each time you get pressured about it. Adding that to the fact that you haven't said much else other than the pl concerns
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[quote="In post 610, Beck"
by my count that is 7 different people, and by your own words you think we probably have 7 scum (I'd say anywhere between 5 to 7 scum)
so say we have 7 scum, and I have voted 7 people, what is the problem?
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In post 619, sorgster wrote:In post 610, Beck wrote:
by my count that is 7 different people, and by your own words you think we probably have 7 scum (I'd say anywhere between 5 to 7 scum)
so say we have 7 scum, and I have voted 7 people, what is the problem?
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In post 29, Pine wrote:If there's anyone I'd consider PLing in this game, it's you, Beck.
Are you considering it? He's making this thread a one man show rant. We need everyone involved to hope to find scum
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In post 643, Zdenek wrote:I'm tired of my vote pointlessly sitiing on Pops. He's still scum, but I can use it better.
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In post 655, Shattered Viewpoint wrote:I swear, am I going to have to lead you little children by the hand this entire fucking game? If so, please just tell me now, so I can clear my schedule.
So you are bluffing.
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In post 674, vijay2vasandani wrote:Sorgster, you seem to keep jumping on every available wagon. However, I have to agree that SV is an idiot. For fucks sake, you can't get it right this early. If you do, its a guess. You are bluffing.
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YES, I'VE GOT SCUM. I'M JUST THAT GOOD!
Stop being cocky as fuck. Please.
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In post 707, Beck wrote:@sorg, your first vote on me was based on you misunderstanding what I said, than you vote zde, which is fine, your vote on zel was retarded, your vote on zde again is fine, you vote me bad vote, you vote shattered which is fine, however looking at the content between your posts, it's basically tunneling on zde, stupid 2 votes, and voting shattered
I don't read your iso and see any good scum hunting on anyone other than zde.
You would obviously be biased about my vote on you.
If someone starts saying I'm obvtown and nothing else, I consider that active lurking. Also, if a lie is told enough times people start believing it. I refuse to let scum slip through using that method.Marathon Game record
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In post 707, Beck wrote:@sorg, your first vote on me was based on you misunderstanding what I said, than you vote zde, which is fine, your vote on zel was retarded, your vote on zde again is fine, you vote me bad vote, you vote shattered which is fine, however looking at the content between your posts, it's basically tunneling on zde, stupid 2 votes, and voting shattered
I don't read your iso and see any good scum hunting onanyone other than zde.
In post 709, Beck wrote:Ok fine, but your votes really aren't helping the flow of the game.
Your2nd vote on me was never going to take off, so it was wasted. You seem to turn to shattered and zel, when others turn their attention to them.
I haven't seen a Goodcase from you on anyone, yet.
And about the second vote on you, day phase isn't close to ending. There aren't major bandwagons. Why are you so confident that you won't get many votes? Are you hoping that your scumbuddies will help you by calling you vi or whatever and deflect attention to others?Marathon Game record
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In post 716, Beck wrote:I eagerly await thefinal postsfrom username and hope that faraday performs better than the other experienced players.
Final posts? Are you planning to kill them this night phase?Marathon Game record
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In post 385, Revenus wrote:Actually Pine/Slaandar, would you guys be down with a Beck lynch? At worst we lynch town d1 which although unfortunate, happens all the time to far better players than Beck. At best we get rid of scum who has been mass posting in a disruptive manner, and is seriously allowing almost everyone to just pop in and comment on him. It will certainly clear up the game flow. This is just a proposition, but Beck is far and away themost antitownplayer in the game and I don't see any signs of improvement from him that will help us in the coming days.
And I'm fine with Hiraki and funkybike.
That's 385 and I agree with him on this. He's giving a good reason for this lynch and it should help the town the best to win. You agree with a special rule for dk about pls. Let's do this for beck.Marathon Game record
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Beck I haven't seen anything in his play that suggests he is scum. Zdenek sounds like an opportunist and a good lynch. Soda has not posted much in this game which is starting to bug me because I've played a few games with him and he never lurks like this.Marathon Game record
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In post 765, Revenus wrote:People who ignore someone playing the game better replace out now, if people are ignoring my case and reasons. Others have posted reasons too.
You shouldn't ignore any case, including mine
I absolutely can, since your cases have no substance. For example, here is a typical exchange
Beck: I'm fucking awesome. Fuck you people
Someone: Uh, calm down buddy
Beck: Fuck you too, you're scum
Someone: That's terrible scumhunting
Beck: Stop discrediting me. I'm scumhunting. You're lying. Therefore you're scum.
That sounds town motivated to me. He's explaining how beck reacts and how he's distracting the thread from finding scum. He insists upon stopping beck's spamming several times.
In post 395, Revenus wrote:I'm hoping off to watch football, but to indicate where I want the lynch to go
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In post 329, Revenus wrote:Someone like screaming hawk who hasn't done anything needs pressure
I've changed my mind on Beck again. Even though he's an anti-town scrub who can't do anything except react and base his "scumhunting" on that (if you can even call that scumhunting), no good will come of his lynch.
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However, we have people who have posted all of 4 times, and if say...these 4 posts were in any way insightful or contributing to the game at all, I'd be fine with that. However, we have people like Screaminghawk, who have 2 posts explaining why they need to vote davidparker, followed by a post that explains that Beck is pissing them off, followed by a stupid question that has nothing to do with anything. Seriously, if you're going to ask why Sky needs votes, then you need to follow that up with something
VOTE: Screaminghawk
Asking questions and clarifying how you feel on a player without explaining your thoughts on anything just makes you look like you're contributing, but you haven't.
He's voting on people to get more people involved in the game and pressuring them. Why would scum want this?Marathon Game record
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I don't even need to explain the pine attacks. It happened ever since he suggested pl on you.
That was the start of your rev attacks.
In post 196, Beck wrote:In post 194, Revenus wrote:Beck; that's dumb. Do you think that it makes them scum? If you're pushing it because the extension of them thinking your cases are wrong makes them scum, that's fine, but if you're going to attack them not because you think they're scum, but that you think they are simply attacking you, that is completely asinine, and therefore you are a detriment to the game. If you're going to just be straight up anti town, then I'm going to be voting you.
Anyone who cant use logic and words to demonstrate why my case is wrong, and calls me scum because of it, is either scum or a fucking vi who needs to die
Crackhead says im scum because my cases are bullshit or crap or whatever word he used. He doesn't bother to take the time to explain why they are wrong. I've dealt with this type of attitude before and got lynched day 1, by parama who was scum. He acted like gods gift to scum hunting and tried to make me look like an idiot.
If I'm wrong with my cases, tell me I'm wrong
But to say im auto scum cause I made bad cases (especially when they can't verbalize why it's wrong) is scum pushing a mislynch.
Crackhead has done nothing this game and now has claimed to catch all the scum?
HORSESHIT
And look here when hiraki says something bad about you
In post 399, Beck wrote:In post 398, Hiraki wrote:
I have no problem with it.In post 379, Slandaar wrote:also, beck seems to get a lot of heat for how he plays fwiw i have no problem with it so far and see no reason for the hate.
Doesn't mean that he's right.
You keep calling me wrong but you dont ever say why I'm wrong.
So instead of posting filler, explain it.
Everyone has shit on me because I've stopped being productive, but I've stopped being productive cause I've caught pine scum and nobody can explain why I'm wrong.
Re-read both pine and rev's iso and you will see almost identical things.
Neither is doing anything to catch scum.
And rev, instead of trying to explain why my case is wrong on pine, he just attacks me, misreps me, and tries to discredit me.
If anyone can find 1 useful post from either if them, please post it.
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In post 819, Beck wrote:This is the last time I'm gonna ask this, if you are town, please defend yourself or I'm going to do something stupid.
I am not playing a game where my top scum read just ignores me, I really cant beleive nobody is supporting me, which is all the more reason to do it.
Please, defend yourself.
P.edit - you realize that first part is no where close to accurate representation of my play? What's town motivated about an absolute mis-representation of my play.
2nd part - why would scum go after inactive people? Idk, I guess to appear to be scum hunting cause Lurkers are much easier to mislynch than active people perhaps?
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In post 659, sorgster wrote:In post 655, Shattered Viewpoint wrote:I swear, am I going to have to lead you little children by the hand this entire fucking game? If so, please just tell me now, so I can clear my schedule.
So you are bluffing.
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In post 1010, Slandaar wrote:In post 1007, sorgster wrote:Zelink has done close to nothing other than say I'm obvtown everyone.
many others have done similar
why specifically zel? calling himself town is scummy?
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In post 977, Faraday wrote:
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What are your opinions of zdenek? I really wish he'll be lynched
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I may jump back to the first vote if I don't get enough support for zdenek. I will happily lynch lurkers too.
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80% of the game? More like 40%. I've focused on you much more than zdenek or about the same. I also was the one to start the sv bandwagon. What has zdenek done to convince me he is town? He hasn't done much at all and without pressure he won't do much. He was very scummy at the start too. Also we are nowhere near deadline so there is nothing wrong to try and start a new bandwagon.Marathon Game record
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In post 1211, sorgster wrote:80% of the game? More like 40%. I've focused on you much more than zdenek or about the same. I also was the one to start the sv bandwagon. What has zdenek done to convince me he is town? He hasn't done much at all and without pressure he won't do much. He was very scummy at the start too. Also we are nowhere near deadline so there is nothing wrong to try and start a new bandwagon.Marathon Game record
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