NY 154: Return to Boring Town - Game Over

[VisceraEyes]

Hi all.

The game seems to be proceeding as I'd expect. nhammen looks way way town, so I'm going to sheep him and hyperlurk to delicious victory.

VOTE: Prescending

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Hy•per•lurk: (verb)

Active lurk. I'm watching you watch me.

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Okay 3 things:

1) I am

confirmed town

because

I

shot the bullet that killed I Am Innocent.
2) Salamence, why are you crying about town killing MoI when SV was the one who died? Could you guys not decide who to kill overnight or something?
3) Non-Precending Voters: EXPLAIN YOURSELVES!!!

VOTE: Salamence20

...for either a poorly designed rxn test or massive scumslip.

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Cool. Link? Ongoing?

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Cool! Well since you were trying to line up my lynch after Prescending, and because you scumslipped (no link? ongoing? didn't happen.) my vote remains until we hear from others.

Thanks for your time sir.

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Fearmonger moar plx.

1) 1 vote does not a lynch make
2) 1 mislynch after D1 sum lynch and pro sum vig shot is not town loss.

gg no re

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He can't lynch you alone...just chill the fuck out if you town and help usxfind the last sum.

Or if you're sum just keep flopping around. No skin off my back I'm confirmed town.

*shrug*

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Viscera, what was your thought process on choosing IaI for your kill?

IAI res voted Prec and left it through the lynch. I mean...that would be cool BUT he tried to wiggle off him toward the end.

The game seems to be proceeding as I'd expect.

Care to elaborate on this?

nhammen looks way way town, so I'm going to sheep him and hyperlurk to delicious victory.

I see

three

four things wrong with this statement. Go ahead, start naming them.

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No, he did line up my lynch with Empking. That much he did mention. Interesting McStab.

Pine never even posted, so we weren't really wondering where you came from as much as where you've been all our lives.

Empking, what is your read on nhammen? Since you think VE's read on nhammen (way way town) is fake. Does that mean you think nhammen is scummy? Or just not "way way town"?

He's not way way town.

So just town? Do you think VE is trying to get on town's side with that post?

Yes (mildly) and yes.

Salamence20 is pleased with this. However, we lynch prescending

today

.

This is part of why I prefer Salamence over Emp...because Salamence was planting the seed of lynching me today

yesterday

. That's scummier than Empking....being Empking. What's the case on Empking?

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"but I am too stupid to think about the next day"

People who play mafia in general don't think they're stupid, or they wouldn't even attempt to play. Saying you're stupid undermines your own credibility and why would you as a townie want to do that? That doesn't make any sense Sal.

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"Despite my wording"

You said, literally, "Salamance is pleased with this"

What do you think the thread is supposed to interpret that as? Why would you say it?

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Look man, I'm just pointing out what's in the thread.

If you were pleased with "Empking's replys." (what kind of response is that to my TWO questions) then why is he your first choice for scum when called upon to do something other than defend yourself? If you "were pleased" with his responses, then why would you want to lynch him today?

PEdit

Sal, no. I don't think something

I

posted is suspicious, why would you even ask me that?

McStab, I agree with you on Sal, hence my vote. Re: mcqueen, what clears him about that engagement in your eyes?

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EBWOP : ...what

about that engagement clears him

in your eyes? -.-

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nhammen is town for the case on GF while scum was already on GF. Confirmed town, virtually. I refuse to believe that nhammen as scum would knowingly endanger his GF by making a case (read: good case) on him. He's by far my strongest town read. I wish he's get in here and say something, I thought I'd be fighting him for bragging rights after the daypost.

PEdit:
So the same reason I think nhammen is confTown. Why no mention of the guy who cased the GF?

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Whoa yeah that case wasn't as good as it was reading in D1. But yeah, I still don't see it when scum are already on the wagon.

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UNVOTE: Sal

Time.

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I just reread the thread in it's entirety. I'm gonna go back to hyperlurking. NO QUICKLYNCHES I'M WATCHING YOU!!!

Before anyone asks, yes I have opinions, no I'm not sharing them right now (soon), and yes you can touch my hand. If you want.

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Emp you do a lot of insinuating your own meaning into others' posts. First you thought my read on nham was "fake" (it wasn't) Now you're adding your own ending to PM's post?

:/

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VOTE: Empking

*shrug*

mcqueen, Empking is a fine wagon, and makes those on it more attractive, sexually speaking. Quit trying to drag people off it, some might think you have an ulterior motive for doing so.

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Is that L-1 because I was about to do the same thing.

We just killed TWO scum, indecision isn't something townies are going through right now.

Like, why are you afraid of starting a new wagon? Why are you afraid of jumping on an existing wagon? The fact that you keep justifying NOT voting for someone is SO damning bro.

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The bolded is fluffly language garbage. Out of character? That’s meaningless drivel.

No it isn't. You know it isn't since "Out of character" is a common phrase in life as well as mafia.

What is the point of number 2. Scum of course are going to notice a wagon on their Godfather.

The point is in the line as a whole rather than the first sentence.

Nothing in these responses is anything other than “Well Town wouldn’t do that because I did it and I’m Town” which is circular referencing garbage.

Are you drunk? The reasoning you're to me isn't even circular it's simply nonsense. (Oh I'm playing sermantics by objecting to your pretending an argument is circular when it isn't.)

We can argue the strength of the tell in question (you and others completely ignoring the Presc wagon) all day long. The fact remains that your stance that scum are more likely to be bussing a Day 3 power-lynch on a Godfather is scummy. It doesn’t reflect the realities of how Mafia is played. You argument reads as contrived solely for your own defense as opposed to based on actual scum-hunting theory.

Let's use an analogy:
If bald men are 1/5th less likely to die in a fire than the average AND people in fires are 10 times more likely to die in a fire than average. Then is a bald man in a fire more or less likely to die in a fire than average? If you focus on the bald part then less; this gives you an inaccurate answer.

Let's unanalogise it:
If players on the Pres wagon are 1/5th less to be scum than the average AND people with connections to dead scum are 10 times more likely to be scum. Then is a wagonner with a Pres connection more likely to be scum than average? If you focus on the wagon part then less; this gives you an inaccurate answer.

Okay Emp this is the kind of play I've been missing from you since I've started on this site.

Now, what's the argument here? You used an analogy to...what, illustrate the logical likelihood that you're not scum? Because you weren't on a scum wagon?

How about this: according to their win-conditions, scum have to lynch

town

in order to win. Therefor, if we assume that scum players are playing with the intention of winning the game (as set forth in the rules) then those

off

the wagon are far

more

likely to flip scum, right?

This was the rationale behind choosing IAI - he was trying to jump off the building Prescending wagon to jump on the freshly started VE wagon...but Presc was hammered before IAI could do it.

I'm with MoI here in that the last scum is going to be found most likely OFF the Prescending wagon. Arguing otherwise is literally arguing that scum aim to play against their win-condition (because unlike town who could be on a town wagon, scum

know

when they're on a scum wagon.) Bussing happens, but we're talking about a D1 Godfather lynch here.

[VisceraEyes]

You can certainly ask!

I'm not sure what you mean by blinkers, but I assume you're calling me stupid so we're done here.

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You can certainly ask!

I'm not sure what you mean by blinkers, but I assume you're calling me stupid so we're done here.

By blinkers I mean tunnel tunnelvision. Y'know like every other time the word is used when not referring to horses.

Colloquial breakdown. We call them blinders here. :/

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Rereading everything. Expect post soon.

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Ohai town! Gosh, I really wish we could get a hammer all up on Empking.

Sala

you need to stop typing in bold big type. It feels contrived - like you're trying to inflate your content not by amount but by size. Effing stop it. You're still my second best guess for scum atm.

MoI is looking town to me, but his avatar is scary.

As for the rest of you, I'M WATCHING YOU!

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UNVOTE: Empking

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I can feasibly get behind a PM lynch.

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Are we sure we cant kill sala? :/

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I'm rereading in full and will post thoughts well before deadline.

I'm back.

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VOTE: Empking

It was a quiet night in VEland people. Quiet indeed.

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No.

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And why not?

I don't know maybe I should have shot you huh? Maybe I should have listened to my gut and shot the piss out of you, right?

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Yeah, I'm not scum...but that was a REALLY FANTASTIC THEORY guy!

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Except it's not is it MoI? I didn't die last night, and apparently I didn't shoot anyone.

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actually i think anyone with a brain at this point can tell that ve is probably a 1-shot who wanted to bait the night kill so your survival still looks scummy. the target bit is just added scumminess, i maintain that targeting me makes no sense as town.

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One shot guys I made it count on N1.

Now about this Empking lynch...

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I promise to do a reread and post my thoughts. At some point.

I'm a disgusting lurker. I feel dirty.