NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #2145 (isolation #0) » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:14 am

I'm on... Page 3 guys! Only 83 pages left to go!

I swear I'll catch up, but if anyone thinks it's a better idea to just get a tl;dr (Even though I feel that's pretty anti-town) that would be good for now since we're far after RVS. At least, I hope we are... Right?

And I see some stuff about the kills being how Stevie's town... how?

Based on the kills, Double Faction or Mafia and SK? (And anything else we might know)

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #2159 (isolation #1) » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:36 am

I think I replaced TSO, but I have no idea what the hell he's posted. I'm only on Page 10. Waving through RVS now.

Sorry for being confused :u

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #2333 (isolation #2) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:32 am

I feel like I'm going to get nothing out of reading the entire thread just from the fact I don't know much of you all, but here it goes. Another 80 or so pages. Shit.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #2334 (isolation #3) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:32 am

In post 2332, Serene wrote:
In post 2331, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:It's a really small point but I really doubt the existence of a town-aligned kill
Except someone has hinted at having made the kill.

Not trying to rolefish, but who?

My interest has piqued.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #2759 (isolation #4) » Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:10 am

In post 2750, Calcifer wrote:
Vote: Thirdkoopa

Cool story bro

Any words on the possibility of a vig kill? I'm on Page 40 now. I'm having a hard time catching up but I'm still doing my best. Sorry guys. >:

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #2763 (isolation #5) » Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:41 am

What Mason claim did I miss?

In post 1200, Zdenek wrote:So I read.
I think scum are lurking. Except for maybe BulbaFenix, but they're voting Stevie, so they're in my good book again.

This is totally possible so far from what I've read. I want to see an analysis on the Lynch D1. I think that entire thing is scum-fueled. I wouldn't be surprised if scum were fencesitting.

Page 50 right now. Still got more to read. What claims did I miss in-general? Has anyone done any VCA (Vote-Count Analysis)?

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #2894 (isolation #6) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:32 pm

Page 60. I've been super busy. Trying to FINALLY finish Day 1.

Anyone have an actual reason for voting me asides from lurking?

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #2900 (isolation #7) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:25 pm

In post 2896, Serene wrote:
In post 2894, Thirdkoopa wrote:Page 60. I've been super busy. Trying to FINALLY finish Day 1.

Anyone have an actual reason for voting me asides from lurking?
zdenek tracked you to the kill on Irish Pope

zdenek why would you bus me like that that's a poor bus

Page 65 now. I'm gonna try to get to that bandwagon soon, FINALLY.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #2942 (isolation #8) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:16 am

In post 2903, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:
In post 2900, Thirdkoopa wrote:
In post 2896, Serene wrote:
In post 2894, Thirdkoopa wrote:Page 60. I've been super busy. Trying to FINALLY finish Day 1.

Anyone have an actual reason for voting me asides from lurking?
zdenek tracked you to the kill on Irish Pope
zdenek why would you bus me like that that's a poor bus

Page 65 now. I'm gonna try to get to that bandwagon soon, FINALLY.
How did you miss the masons, when you already read the pages? Not to mention you asked about them when you were on Page 40; I'm pretty sure the masons were on page 30ish.

Because I've been pretty busy. Really, just rack up who's claimed what.

I'll get on reading the rest; have a singing class. GETTING TO DAY 2 SOON YES.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #2955 (isolation #9) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:35 am

In post 2951, Serene wrote:
In post 2948, Calcifer wrote:Thirdkoopa is a stronger scumread of mine
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p5125740

Yeah, Thirdkoopa pretty much confessed scum right in that post.

In what way, shape, or form is catching up claiming scum?

Plus, if I were actually scum, I'd do it in a much more fashionable way. /wifom

Dramonic and Serene are masons, well then, okay. I don't have much else to say to that asides from I don't get why people weren't believing it considering Dramonic only had a bit of suspicion earlier. I was suspicious for some of his vote hopping (Though I may have confused him with someone else) and Serene hasn't really grasped any scum vibes. I Don't see why they would claim it if they were scum unless they were really under suspicion and somehow I magically missed that as well. My only other question, especially if we're dealing with double faction, is why none of them were nightkilled, but fuck if I know. If it's SK it's optimal SK. I think Zde's town so far, and the mason claim I can get behind, but I'm not really sure for the others

Seeing a lot of inactivity, trying to get to the Nero bandwagon on D1.

I've probably missed something else important too.

What's the case on Ank? Page 70 now. I'm doing my best guys ):

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #2958 (isolation #10) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:36 am

In post 2954, BROseidon wrote:Pretty colors.

Can I write in Stevie as a 3rd party candidate?

no no no that's scum if anything

i don't see how you got third-party, or even what third-party

Thirdkoopa · Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:34 am

And it's VCA time.

In post 1824, KingCrabd wrote:Nero works for me for now.

Vote: Nero

That said rift/serene/townbloc, let's go one at a time, ISO-meta as we go down the list?

"For now"

In post 1825, Shadi1337 wrote:VOTE: Nero

In post 1828, TheIrishPope wrote:VOTE: Nero

TOO BAD YOURE DEAD IRISH

In post 1831, Shadi1337 wrote:
In post 1830, KingCrabd wrote:Well, to be fair, I expected pope to follow right along. It's what he does.

Shadi sheeping us is a bit more off, but whatever.
Then... Why not go for Nero?

In post 1675, Shadi1337 wrote:anything other than*, if you wanna go for me, fine. * (punctuation!)

Basically I just wanna see something going. For me I think Steve would be better but I am OK with Nero..

"Look I'm going for one but acting impartial to the other while voting for the other. I won't get noticed after this, right?"

In post 1858, Metal Sonic wrote:well i actually like the serene and nero posts

nero makes good responses

i laughed irl quite a lot

alternatively if there is a silencer role that would be great(i know, i know its mafia role, but hey!)

stevie/Stubbs/Shadi is fricking confusing names

VOTE: Stevie

+Points for actually trying to do something nobody had the balls to do
-Points when this looks like a tactic I've seen in another game.

In post 1862, Baby Spice wrote:
Vote Nero

Nero really shows the same asshat style from that other game, but the posting is different.
There isn't the same scum hunting going on here though.

That said, othere part of Serene needs to rein this 'yates' head in a bit.

I would also support a Stevie, Stubs, or Bro lynch, with the Goat, or Holywood, or Orc as lesser candidates.

A Mixture of reason, tell, and lurker.

Holy shit that's a lot of lynches but at least you tried.

...Would be better if you voted someone else other than Nero but moving on...

In post 1888, Cephrir wrote:(Shadi isn't going to flip town though )

In post 1893, Nero wrote:im a one shot role cop i dont give a shit whether you lyncvh me or not. i want everyone to swear an oath right now to COMPLETELY DISREGARD AND IGNORE SERENE'S OPINION once I flip town thanks.

why did you fakeclaim as town

gah

just why

this is so bad

at least you didn't call a real role to claim

In post 1899, StubbsKVM wrote:Looks like everyone is so tired of this game, they're all voting Nero just to finish this day.

...And no vote.

In post 1902, Zdenek wrote:
In post 1899, StubbsKVM wrote:Looks like everyone is so tired of this game, they're all voting Nero just to finish this day.

I'm voting him because I think he'll flip scum.

Thank you. At least ONE person on this wagon isn't blatant. Also where's your avatar from? Totally off-topic.

In post 1903, BROseidon wrote:Reading from where I last posted because fuck it I’m skipping that middle part:

Calcifer still seems fine to me. Serene, what are the relevant posts that I skipped that make you think Calcifer is scum?

Dropping Nero from my townreads and moving him into the scumpile. This is fucking ridiculous. Cabd hydra is a solid townread now, though.

Letters being gone for so long makes me want to scumread the slot, and Stevie being gone strengthens my scumread on it. Cephrir makes me like the Doc slot a lot more, but not enough to shake the early scumread.

I like Ank’s 1752. Frustration seems natural and scum would have to fake that because the Nero/Serene shitstorm benefits scum.

Wow Serene makes an actual case. Woohoo something worth reading in this shitshow of a thread.

Holy fuck that wagon formed fast. Still not convinced on Shadi-town but the rest of the wagon seems fine.

Baby Spice why is Orc on your “would support to lynch” list? I can work out a reason for just about everyone else on there. Also, why is letters not on that list if you’re including lurkers?

Oh look you gave a weak explanation could you give one with specifics.

Serene don’t try to push MS he’s just being his wacky old townie self.

Okay that claim could easily a scum rolecop claiming town rolecop. I am fine with the Nero lynch.

TIP why would you unvote that is a shit claim.

VOTE: Nero

well okay i don't blame you because it was a shit claim. even though I don't particularly like the posts I don't blame you

In post 1930, ProHawk wrote:
VOTE:Nero

Make it stop!

Hi dead town. Well, you tried.

In post 1942, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:no actually you know what

VOTE: rift

since when are you EVER this sure about reads on day 1

oh snap

In post 2016, Nero wrote:turbo lynch stevie tomorrow and verbally assault serene.

keep in mind to completely disregard any reads that "it" gives.

Toodles.

Well you tried.

In post 2057, Serene wrote:AhahahHahahhahahahahahHagahgaggagahagavgaagahhaha

Ahahhahahahahhahahahhaha

Ahahhahahhahahahahaha

Fuck my spleen

Best post is best post. I mean, EM is okay for dicking around, but...

Totally different regardless anyways.

Also not sure if you know of Final Fantasy, but you made me think of Kefka.

In post 2088, Zdenek wrote:
In post 2084, Rift Adrift wrote:I don't get the Stevie hate.
Look at the thread.
Look at the things Stevie has chosen to comment on.

^ This

not to add more WIFOM but stevie's either incredibly anti-town town or scum. after a mislynch yesterday though I'm not sure whether vigging him (If we have one) or VCA would be better. Hmm, choices.

Does anyone have any changed thoughts towards stevie? Any support

Let's do this.

In post 2129, PeregrineV wrote:

Nero (13)
- Rift Adrift, Zdenek,
KingCrabd
,
Shadi1337
, Baby Spice, Cephrir, BROseidon,
ProHawk
, BulbaFenix,
Serene (Mason)
,
StevieT92
,
dramonic (Mason)
,
TheIrishPope

StevieT92 (4)
- The Goat,
StubbsKVM
- I don't like where this was., Metal Sonic, orcinus_theoriginal

BROseidon (2)
- Brian Hollywood, DOMO

Calcifer (1)
- Ankamius

BulbaFenix (1)
- Calcifer

Shadi1337 (1)
- Thirdkoopa

The Goat (1)
- TMTOLBTWNTOF

Ankamius (1)
- Nero

Red's my suspicion. The more I think about it, the more I don't think we're playing with double faction and we're just playing with a Mafia (And an SK, perhaps?); the green indicates deadtown or the masons, and the red indicates some of my suspicions. Frankly, I think scum hopped on in the middle to see where it went, fencesat, or stuck on Stevie

Whatever the hell my replacement was doing befoer is beyond me.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:36 am

In post 2965, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 2964, DOMO wrote:Seems even more retarded if he's SK, it goes against his wincon because scum can pick him off easily. At least if he's in a team, he can still win after dying. I dunno. I need to not be drinking cider when thinking about it.
It depends on the wincon.

The fuck kind of SK wincon would be different? Claim to day ***?

If I

*or hypothetically any other SK*

was actually SK and had that, the hell is stopping me from hypothetically claiming survivor or an important town PR? I'm not use to MafiaScum, and I'm rusty, but I'm flabbergast by this logic.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:38 am

Furthermore, what's with this SK stuff anyways? Yeah, I can see an SK in this setup, but why Stevie? I mean, I guess he could be. Furthermore, I don't get

me

... Okay, I guess from the standpoint my replacement was playing optimal is something.

I'd lynch Stevie for being scummy, not as an SK suspicion.

I'm finally done with Day 1. Now onto Day 2. I'm probably doing terrible at this, but hey, have to start again somewhere right?

Thirdkoopa · Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:42 am

In post 2970, Serene wrote:
In post 2968, Thirdkoopa wrote:Furthermore, I don't get me... Okay, I guess from the standpoint my replacement was playing optimal is something.
okay seriously, stop dropping the amished tell

the fuck is an amished tell

I'll stop, but you'll have to tell me what it is bro.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:45 am

In post 2174, BROseidon wrote:Also can we stop with the dayvig reaction test already? It's really fucking dumb and needs to be killed with fire.

Oh, I'm not apologizing for scummy behavior of my replacement, I'm saying "If I were any other slot, I could see how you guys could draw the conclusion of

TSO

being SK, but not myself as much"

Besides, I have nothing to apologize for on his front.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:46 am

Though, I won't bother mentioning TSO because TSO has done jack shit. If there's one thing I feel sorry for, it's being so damned rusty. This is my first game in a while, but surprisingly I'm now enjoying it more than I thought I would.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:14 am

It's time for this dayphase!

In post 2185, Serene wrote:
In post 2183, DOMO wrote:dayvig gambits suck. Has anyone ever been caught by one?
no but i once saw town fake a dayvig gambit and then get counterclaimed by the actual dayvig who proved it by shooting a third player

that third player was bulletproof scum

i want to see this

In post 2254, Calcifer wrote:
Vote: Thirdkoopa

In post 2145, Thirdkoopa wrote:I swear I'll catch up, but if anyone thinks it's a better idea to just get a tl;dr (Even though I feel that's pretty anti-town) that would be good for now since we're far after RVS. At least, I hope we are... Right?
"If anyone thinks that this antitown thing is a good idea, then let's do it!"

More like "I was just asking" - I still did read the thread, by the by.

In post 2262, Cephrir wrote:VOTE: Thirdkoopa

Wanted to lynch this clown yesterday, still want to today.

I went through the entire thread practically TWICE and I hardly saw you pushing for TSO, if at all. And clown? More like "Inactive player". By the time I got replaced into this game, Nero was lynched.

In post 2308, Rift Adrift wrote:
Town

Serene
Dramonic

Lean town

KingCrabd
orcinus
Zdenec
DOMO
Ankamius
Calcifer
Cephrir
Metal Sonic
StubbsKVM

Null-Town

Shadi1337
StevieT92
Baby Spice

Scum/Leaning Scum

The Goat
Thirdkoopa (T S O)
Brian Hollywood
BulbaFenix

Want to rethink

BROseidon
TMTOLBTWNTOF

You... I don't...

What?

I'm very very interested in hearing your reasoning on The Goat, Brian, and Bulba. Now.

In post 2337, Zdenek wrote:I like Cephir's reads of 3rdK and TMTLetters, so that makes me feel better about him.

In post 2311, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:serene is jackshit.

In post 2313, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 2253, Serene wrote:Calcifer's confession:

In post 2200, Calcifer wrote:
In post 2334, Thirdkoopa wrote:Not trying to rolefish, but who?
Seriously?
VOTE: thirdkoopa
I'm curious as to who. Can you blame me? I've been missing a lot of stuff.

In post 2354, BROseidon wrote:Koopa's posts are horrible but I would rather let him catch up and see a little bit more before jumping on him.
No matter your faction I appreciate this.

In post 2355, Cephrir wrote: Thirdkoopa's posts are indeed bad but I'm also voting him at least as hard for replacing scum.
NO NO DISGUISE FOR THAT TUNNEL-VISION.

In post 2684, StubbsKVM wrote:
Zdenek wrote: I'm not putting words in your mouth. I looked at your ISO, and that's what I got out of. Now, I'm checking to see if you have anything else you want to add or if I missed something. I ask because if this is correct then I really don't understand your null reads on TMTOLBTWNTOF and Brian Hollywood and your town read on The Goat, since they've also not provided content. The fact that you don't have a read on BulbaF seems odd to me, since you're scum reading Ank for reading the mason's differently, and BulbaFenix's reads on the masons seems incredibly contrived.
You look at my ISO and assume a bunch of things. That's not putting words in my mouth?

I gave you a list and reads on them as far as I remembered. I did not look up anything before writing them down.

Let's see:

Ankamius has pinged me a few times, but I can't really remember what he did.
Baby Spice did some weird voting and displayed some really weird behaviour on day 1.
Stevie well I don't think I need to explain that one.
Thirdkoopa: The "I'm not rolefishing, but who are you talking about" post was exceptionally bad. Because people already pointed it out, I didn't see the need to repeat that.
TMT: can't remember anything he posted. How can I read him other than null? I've been wondering why people are scumreading him, but haven't put in effort to find out why.
Brian Hollywood: same thing.
The Goat: I remember him saying he was townier than Serene. I could not agree more. Maybe I just really liked that post to just want him around. The Doctor on fire thing was golden.
BulbaFenix: One head says yes, the other no. I have to admit I may have skipped some of his posts.

Maybe I should put some effort in reading through some of these guys. But after catching up 20 pages, I did not feel like it. Basically since the whole Serene/Nero theatre, I kind of lost interest and I have a hard time getting back into it. It feels like I'm not really a part of this game, just spectating. That's probably the reason why I'm lacking strong scumreads.
It was one post. COME ON.

In post 2802, KingCrabd wrote:Thirdkoopa claims to have been current up to page 50 when he made that post. Issue is, the mason claim was on page 45, and pages 45-50 were pretty much entirely centered around the mason claim discussion. Scum isn't bothering to read the entire thread.

VOTE: thirdkoopa

Will get to the other stuff asked of me/etc in a few.
Lol, what? If I were scum, that'd be even MORE reason to read the thread - To you know, not get lynched. Me missing the mason claim was a fault of laziness and not just searching it up.

In post 2949, Cephrir wrote:^

The Ank wagon is mediocre. Elect Thirdkoopa 2013.

Well, I'm not the biggest fan of the Ank wagon, but I'm gonna go look at some posts for a sec.

Also, hey, hey Cephrir.

Try making an actual case on me. I've said more now, so I'm highly interested. Do it.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:18 am

In post 2978, Cephrir wrote:
Thirdkoopa wrote:Frankly, I think scum hopped on in the middle to see where it went, fencesat, or stuck on Stevie
Which explains why your suspicions are from those who hopped on at the beginning, a Stevie voter, and... Stevie?

My suspicions are at the end, but I did post a lot. I haven't done a full reads list yet, but I did put a lot of red into the middle. The beginning wagon... I wouldn't be surprised if one of them was that.

I don't really care for a lot of those quote + obvious one liners, nor do I especially care for replacing in and acting like everyone who suspected dead townies was being stupid.

Nah, not everyone was being stupid. I don't mean to come across as a jackass with that. What is stupid, however, is one vote sheeping. Even if those votes are town, they don't offer anything of substantial value. Is it truly wrong to place more attention on these terrible votes? I think not. I know it's Day 1, but seriously? RVS phase was far by over by then.

Looking back, I don't blame you all for lynching Nero regardless. I would have lynched his ass too or made him talk. Probably the latter.

How did those posts convince you he might be town DGB? They're not even good.

DBG? what

What? Who even said anything about TSO being an SK?

...

I need to get more sleep. Well, whatever oddball theories people want to keep on SK, whatever. I just want to get scum.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:19 am

In post 2980, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 2978, Cephrir wrote:What? Who even said anything about TSO being an SK?
You could argue that I did, though I was thinking more broadly about third party roles in general.

I'm trying to keep in mind that a lot of the shenanigans I've seen in games elsewhere are off the table due the word "Normal" in the thread title.

Hey, it's at least trying.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:22 am

Okay, so I made one part unclear: My suspicions on scum voting Stevie are basically because "lolbus" (if he's scum) because by then they knew Nero would get voted. If it's single faction, it more points to what I think. That, the middle of the wagon, and the fencesitting is getting me off.

Not feeling the Zeta/Beta (That's his name right?) wagon, so here I go.

Vote: Stevie

fuck so many people sharing a hydra as serenes

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3010 (isolation #21) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:41 am

How do you do ISO's here?

And what Lynch number do you guys usually claim at?

Dramonic, got any individual thoughts towards Ank? Stevie, got anything else asides from your vote on me or are you just going to keep going on?

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3011 (isolation #22) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:42 am

Also I do find Ank more scummy than Bulba at least right now. Did Bulba get prodded? I don't get what the "Prods: *** time" mean.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3043 (isolation #23) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:44 pm

L-3... Is it claim mode time?

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3044 (isolation #24) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:50 pm

Granted I see people going for other wagons.

And no, I'm not going to wait till L-1 to claim. Not going to risk getting quick-hammered :/

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:49 am

L-2? Well, first off, I'm

switching to Ank

since I've found him suspicious as well.

Second off, claim time?

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:36 am

I'm town, I didn't mean to disappear; I've been over a very busy day. Good job King, you just hammered your town two-shot vigilante :/

I'll post reads in a sec

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:39 am

Let's do this

Blue = Town
Red = Scum

In post 0, PeregrineV wrote:
Ankamius

Baby Spice
Brian Hollywood
BROseidon[/color]
Calcifer (mastin2 & Nachomamma8) - I really don't know
Cephrir
Doc Holliday
- Keep on a watch here, I can't tell.
DOMO (TheReverend & DoubleJD)

dramonic

KingCrabd (Hydra of Cabd & TheKP)
BulbaFenix (hydra of Bulbazak and Eddie Fenix)
Mac

Marquis
Metal Sonic

orcinus_theoriginal
Rift Adrift (Syryana and fferyllt)
Shadi1337

StevieT92

StubbsKVM
The Goat
TMTOLBTWNTOF

Serene (hydra)
truly14

Zdenek

If anyone else wants to ask me my reads on anyone else, go for it.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:39 am

I no-killed. I wanted to kill a few people, but unfortunately me not reading through the entire thread made it implausible.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:41 am

In post 3089, KingCrabd wrote:...Fuck.

Well, reads ASAP please.

King I'll forgive you if you're town if you lynch one scum (And I'll laugh if you're scum, harder if you're SK) but never do that again. Seriously, patience is a thing.

It's okay since I was gonna be roleblocked anyways <3

Not sure on King being scum now as much, but keep a lookout for Marquis and Shadi as well. There's scum at least on one of the two bandwagons, so don't let people get away with poor voting.

Also, don't let Stevie and Ank off the hook tomorrow.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:42 am

In post 3093, BulbaFenix wrote:Thanks that's all I needed. Do you have any other strong or semi-strong reads?

-Bulba

I'd say wait for the nights flips. Zde's probably my strongest Town Read, but I've seen people play good Town as Scum. Stevie and Cephir I really don't like after my lynch. I'd also keep a watch on the replacements (I never particularly liked Metal Sonic's posts) and the generally poor sheep.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:43 am

Wait the hammer was fake?

I've got a headache now. I need a break for a bit. Also, who shall I vig assuming I don't get RB'd?

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:46 am

In post 3099, Cabd wrote:Yeah. It was totally 120% fake. I was already voting you, so by unvoting and re-voting, my post had no ACTUAL affect on you.

Oh my god you've made my night. I need to add some of you guys on skype.

Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 3098, Thirdkoopa wrote:I want to think about that a bit.

I want to think about that a bit.

I want to think about that a bit.

...I need to drink some water. I have a feeling this is gonna be a long day.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:46 am

Also yeah, I'm probably getting roleblocked now anyways. >:

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:51 am

In post 3110, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 3102, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 3098, Thirdkoopa wrote:I want to think about that a bit.

I want to think about that a bit.
freaking highlight/quote.

This was in answer to your question about who to target tonight.

You've got no idea?

Also not sure whether it's a good idea to say so public-ally.

I was going to claim anyways by the L-1 point, so this just made me notice it faster. Good job Crab.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:53 am

In post 3113, dramonic wrote:
unvote
vote: ankamius

That was still a very scummy vote koopa <.<

I won't disagree with you on that. I did look like I was trying to save my ass, so all apologies for that.

Dramonic, I asked you a question a few pages back, did I not?

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:55 am

In post 3116, Cephrir wrote:
Unvote

Is that it?

Oh and thanks for whoever helped me ISO.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:58 am

In post 3119, KingCrabd wrote: I think it's time for another rift townbloc meeting. Now featuring thirdkoopa.

A wa-

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:03 pm

In post 3124, Ankamius wrote:UNVOTE: ThirdKoopa
VOTE: DOMO

Now watch as I get quickhammered by the legion of thirdkoopa unvoters.

Reason being?

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:06 pm

In post 3126, Ankamius wrote:Reason for what.

Reasoning for voting Domo.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:20 pm

Yeah I got pretty obvious the moment I went "GUYS WHO ELSE CLAIMED KILLER?" since I didn't think we were talking about the Daykill.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:26 pm

In post 3134, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3117, Thirdkoopa wrote:
In post 3116, Cephrir wrote:
Unvote
Is that it?
I wanted to make sure I got that in since I was having trouble maintaining an internet connection for more than 2 seconds at a time

It looks like I'm a shitty scumhunter. Somehow, no matter how many times I learn this, I continue to be surprised every time.

I need to think about where I want to go next.

Pedit: DOMO is clearly referring to Koopa and Crabd, and I find his hypothesis somewhat silly.

It's okay, we all make mistakes in these games. I think I've got very rusty at scumhunting myself. >:

Thirdkoopa · Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:32 pm

Thank god I came in when I did. My phone wasn't working for posting. >:

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3148 (isolation #43) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:26 pm

I might not be on immediately tomorrow; I have a physical to take.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3196 (isolation #44) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:54 am

Two-shot cop? Removing WIFOM, you're probably sane, but iunno. It seems weird to have another two-shot role. I'm curious to this: Why'd you investigate Baby Spice? (Assuming you're telling the truth)

In post 3197, Rift Adrift wrote:VOTE: BROseidon

i'm okay with this

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3198 (isolation #45) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:42 am

The other problem I have with it, not to outguess the mod, but Cop is usually a role that can go on without being limited. Full Vig, on the other hand, could screw up an entire scum team in the right hands or screw a game over for town in the wrong hands.

Then again, I see little benefit (Unless he were Mafia) in lying about it.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3322 (isolation #46) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:17 am

Anyone got a votal?

Not V/LAing but I might be busy this weekend. Will say further if anything comes up.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3334 (isolation #47) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:14 pm

Vote: BulbaFenix

I'd rather him than Ank today. Probably won't bother shooting Ank so he can get a result.

We've got five days to get this cracking.

Cephrir wrote:i can't deal with this shit today, see you when that changes

It's okay it happens to the best of us. Take a break. I had to sit down for a bit when I started freaking out over that "Hammer" on me.

Thirdkoopa · Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:29 am

In post 3367, Serene wrote:BFenix is town, that was an experiment.

I still want to see BFenix's analysis of ALL wagons, not just his own.

Wait what now, also ^ This. Same with the first day wagon. You guys are letting too much off the hook.

I'm here for a bit now at least. Since the day is ending one way or another soon, I do want to have more of an idea on who to vig since I think that got lost in everything else. Yeah, give me a list. I'm not gonna just pick one person.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3416 (isolation #49) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:50 am

Bulba, just on the odd chance that you are town, could you actually give us VCA on the other wagons? We have three days left, and unless everyone magically agrees on Stevie (Or another good idea...)

Also nobody is answering about the vig shots but I suppose at least nobody opposes to me not shooting Ank.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3622 (isolation #50) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:36 pm

And time to catch up. I may be out for an appointment tomorrow and not sure if I got any shot suggestions. Too bad it's late now >_>

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3800 (isolation #51) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:27 pm

...

YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME

My kill was Stevie. I mean at least two lynchbaits are out of the way but GAH.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3803 (isolation #52) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:33 pm

Guilty, I take it?

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3814 (isolation #53) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:24 pm

Vote TMT

Should I still possibly shoot tonight? I need to think over this one a little more.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3816 (isolation #54) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:38 pm

Alright, Kill list is go.

If he flips town, kill Ank, and if he doesn't, maybe kill? (If he doesn't, we have him (Unless it was a bus) and the Masons, so I have 13 targets). I'm thinking about it.

I'm looking for scummy players and waiting to see what the replacements say in their defense.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3817 (isolation #55) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:39 pm

Actually wait, if Ank is scum won't I just be roleblocked anyways?

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3819 (isolation #56) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:45 pm

In post 3818, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 3817, Thirdkoopa wrote:Actually wait, if Ank is scum won't I just be roleblocked anyways?
If scum have a roleblocker.

...point made

plus they didnt block me anyways and i'm obvious block so

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3821 (isolation #57) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:02 pm

Also, SK or Second Mafia? I still don't know.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3832 (isolation #58) » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:05 pm

In post 3831, Rift Adrift wrote:Worth taking a look at bulba's reads?

I'd say so. Too bad he didn't do vote analysis for any other wagons.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3863 (isolation #59) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:10 am

Maybe they didn't go for me/Ank because loldoctor or lolbodyguard? Granted, we probably don't have a roleblocker on scum side at least.

Also the more I think about it, we probably don't have a second scum team and it's just an SK. ProHawk and Caph kills look totally optimal play. Just some thought throwing to myself.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3874 (isolation #60) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:35 am

In post 3873, dramonic wrote:
vote: OMGWTFBBQ

Gotta admit, I lol'd

Thirdkoopa · Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:15 pm

I'd still lynch him

I mean not claiming Miller FIRST DAY? the hell

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3881 (isolation #62) » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:47 pm

In post 3880, Shadi1337 wrote:I've been trying to get a good night's sleep over those NKs but honestly they barely make sense to me..

VOTE: TMTOLBTWNTOF

I was rly sure of Stevie being scum.

HOW DO YOU THINK I FEEL?

;_;

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3908 (isolation #63) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:20 am

The fact he's not replying is already selling out even more of his guilt.

So reads lists, gents. I would especially like one from Ank and the masons.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:02 am

In post 3909, Serene wrote:Please hammer before I die of natural causes.

Serene - Useful Mason

has died of Dysentery!

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3914 (isolation #65) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:52 pm

HAMMER THIS MOFO HE HASN'T EVEN COME HERE

SERENE READ LIST GO

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3919 (isolation #66) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:16 pm

I will admit the fact it's been two nights and both haven't died make me unnerved, but hey, maybe they just think Dramonic is useless.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3921 (isolation #67) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:28 pm

In post 3920, Ankamius wrote:Dramonic has done literally nothing all game. This is compared to all the people like me who haven't done jack shit all game.

Dramonic is "lol i'm a mason"

I'd like it if he came here and did something.

serene (or someone else that isn't serene) could you just link me to the post of your reads list

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #3934 (isolation #68) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:36 am

Is it just me, or am I completely missing why we should care? I looked at Xeno, I don't get it.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4037 (isolation #69) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:52 am

i'm not going to kill dramonic; that just sounds too risky, especially when serene might be killed tonight anyways O|

Thirdkoopa · Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:11 am

In post 4041, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
In post 4038, BROseidon wrote:
In post 4035, Serene wrote:
In post 4031, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:just posting the list for me to look at...
Oh good so you NK'd Calcifer and Zdenek.
Do you even think about what you post?
stop. feeding. the. troll.

tk i hope you reconsider

well dramonic IS useless

And the fact one of them hasn't died is something

but still

Thirdkoopa · Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:25 am

still shooting a claimed mason is just retard even if it's weird they haven't died

i'd rather not shoot, or try some other target. i don't see anyone wanting me to shoot the claimed masons, orc.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4146 (isolation #72) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:27 am

I hope to god I shoot scum. I'm not counting on an SK or a second scum team for the life of me.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4154 (isolation #73) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:46 pm

was that a hammer

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4156 (isolation #74) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:04 pm

No objections. We've had enough pages and we'll have enough to discuss at night.

HAMMER AWAY CRAB

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4163 (isolation #75) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:30 pm

I meant to discuss at day. If you guys actually think that's a scumslip, I lol'd

LET'S DO THIS.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4165 (isolation #76) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:31 pm

I NEED TO GO TALK TO MY SCUM

CEPHRIR, SERENE, DRAMONIC, AND ORC LET'S DO THIS

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4166 (isolation #77) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:37 pm

on a serious note, that should have been day. We'll have time to talk once day 4 hits, and a lot of it.

and i can talk with the mod and co-mod :B

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4168 (isolation #78) » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:02 pm

In post 4167, Serene wrote:
In post 4165, Thirdkoopa wrote:I NEED TO GO TALK TO MY SCUM

CEPHRIR, SERENE, DRAMONIC, AND ORC LET'S DO THIS
why would you post this, DGB's going to spend the entire night phase in a fit of paranoia over you now

Oh no, please don't tell me anyone's taking me seriously with that.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4205 (isolation #79) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:25 am

In post 4193, Serene wrote:If its two scum teams and an SK, then there's the possibility koopa's N1 kill was roleblocked by another scum team or that he hit a BP / BP SK

which segues nicely to "nope I didn't shoot N1" if he knew his kill was stopped

-k

For this to happen, you're assuming there's an SK, two scum teams, and myself

The only way I think that's even remotely possible is if we see three kills without me or tomorrow night we see four kills (Because I'm probably blasting someone)

In post 4186, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:But yes vig is a billion times more likely than any other scenario

Thank you

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4207 (isolation #80) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:35 am

orc have you posted a reads list anywhere

by the by love the hammer bro

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4222 (isolation #81) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:13 am

did crabd ever even make a vig list?

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4262 (isolation #82) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:39 am

In post 4260, Serene wrote:Hey let's never lynch the guilty player

See if we can reach page 500 before night 4

JUST HAMMER HIM SOMEONE

END IT

Thirdkoopa · Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:01 am

Alright, sure, I can wait until then. I'm not impatient, it's just that it's been so damned long.

If you guys have stuff to tell me, crack at it before the day's end. There's a 90% chance I'm firing.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4284 (isolation #84) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:46 pm

Reads lists, now, or at least quick "Who to shoot/who to not" lists. Also tell me if I shouldn't fire now if you guys think that. I wish there was some way I could get other Town PR's to claim without doing anything damaging, but if I fuck up oh well.

I don't think I'd have much to add with mine until I live to see the next day.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4290 (isolation #85) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:04 pm

FFery? Who? Will get to reading that as SOON as night hit phase ends. If someone can compile a link to all the read lists, I'd appreciate it. (Well a post with links to all)

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4325 (isolation #86) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:37 am

>i shot orc
FML
It's a sad day when the SK (or second mafia) is doing better than me >_>

BUT YES I WAS RIGHT ON CEPHRIR

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4330 (isolation #87) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:48 am

I did also the best I could. Had I shot cephrir, we could have mislynched him today, and shooting him could clear up some stuff like Stevie.

So where do we start?

Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 4325, Thirdkoopa wrote:>i shot orc
FML
It's a sad day when the SK (or second mafia) is doing better than me >_>

BUT YES I WAS RIGHT ON CEPHRIR
What the fuck.

It was a bit of a last minute shot since Deadline was approaching and I didn't want to come back and say "lol guess who didn't shoot"; It was between either him or Jon. My B. Though it could have been crosskilled anyways

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4332 (isolation #88) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:53 am

also yes i'm horrible vig >:

Rift Adrift wrote:Why the hell do I even post reads lists?

If I had just ONE more day or even just until tonight, I would have reviewed the reads lists. I know procrastination isn't good, but I was busy through most of the night phase. I should have just no shot but I never got any opinions on that.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:26 am

In post 4339, Rift Adrift wrote: And what was the significance of the quotes around third?

...what

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:37 am

Let's see...

Ankamius
Baby Spice

(Cop assuming)
Baezu
BROseidon
DOMO

dramonic (Mason)

KingCrabd
penguin_alien
Rift Adrift
Shadi1337
StubbsKVM

Thirdkoopa (hiiii)

jon_h61

Serene (Mason)

This is an interesting list. Has anyone been replaced on it?

I'm going to assume three scum left at least, one being an SK, and I think it's safe enough to say we're in single faction. Assuming we are, Baby Spice could still be SK, but that's assuming inno, so assumptions!

Hmmm...

Time to ISO Cephrir and see if I get anything useful out of it to begin with. I'm sure there has to be SOMETHING asides from his random ass tunneling of me

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:46 am

let's get to this scum, you hold the keys to the AWESOME~

In post 4318, Cephrir wrote:Back in? I haven't liked a single post he's made.

Can't tell if bussing or if trying to direct vig shot since there was a lot of this

In post 4256, Cephrir wrote:Mostly unrelatedly, I just reskimmed Brian Hollywood, and he's scum.

There's nothing to this unfortunately since you're... yeah.

In post 3862, Cephrir wrote:Meh, I'm pretty much the awkward posting champion, not sure why that surprises anyone.

Why is Metal Sonic's slot scum? I've seen him slipping down scumlists, but I don't really know why. I had a townread on him.

Yeha... Metal Sonic Town or Scum? You decide! It's all WIFOM anyways, but I can tell one thing: Ceph busses his scum. What he did with TMT when he voted me, yeah.

In post 3023, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3021, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:
In post 3019, Serene wrote:TMTOLBTWNTOF probably will stay unvoting because scum likes to do that.
Check out my games.

Does at least 1 of your heads thinks Calcifer is scum?

VOTE: Koopa
Shit like this makes me second guess myself.

Then again, could be bussing or multiball.

Yeah bullshit.

In post 2949, Cephrir wrote:^

The Ank wagon is mediocre. Elect Thirdkoopa 2013.

I have a feeling more that Ank is town from this

Unfortunately the crapton of posts Cephrir made were useless

(BECAUSE HE'S SCUM)

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:46 am

Okay so as for Orc, I'm trying to find any reads lists he posted

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:55 am

Then we use his shoot list, and we get something going to start this day phase.

And since it's fourteen people left, I better damn well see activity from everyone. We don't have sheep on the cop anymore, and we have nine choices.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4357 (isolation #94) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:33 pm

I'm fine with a massclaim. Popcorn style?

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4364 (isolation #95) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:55 pm

Let's start then. Shall we have Crab first?

Also, who's everyone thinking of lynching today?

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4367 (isolation #96) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:04 pm

Crabd first, Crab picks someone next, we keep going.

Let's do this.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4369 (isolation #97) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:22 pm

Well, at least we got the WIFOM of Orc out of the way I guess?

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4384 (isolation #98) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:04 pm

So, massclaim over for now?

Vote: Dramonic

The fuck, Serene. The fuck.

Thirdkoopa · Post Post #4385 (isolation #99) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:04 pm

Also we don't need anymore votes unless we're gonna save the massclaim for tomorrow.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:18 pm

On second thought, lets just quicklynch this scumbag.

Mass claim for tomorrow. Jon will start if he's not dead.

This fucking game.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:24 pm

I still can't believe this. I need sleep.

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:20 am

Wait, dram's gonna try pulling a serious defense?

What's your role then?

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:51 am

In post 4413, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 4409, DOMO wrote:Fakeclaiming mason on day one and then later throwing your partner under the bus doesn't seem like a stretch. I've only played with any of your heads once that I'm aware of, DGB replaced into my only scumgame here, I don't remember her fakeclaiming but to be fair I think we'd already massclaimed by the time she replaced in.

I don't like that you allowed orc to get shot for suggesting koopa vig's dram. You've waited until koopa has no shots left... this is sketch.

I can't see how we can leave you until lylo
.
We don't.

^ This. It's too much WIFOM. Any reason not to quicklynch him?

And if it makes you feel better Serene, I read Orc as a bit more of a scum read far back along with Cephrir. My shot was mostly between them last night.

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:52 am

Also this clears up a lot of stuff. If Serene was doing this, they probably figured (Especially if we're not in multiball and it's just another SK/they didn't expect MY role) that Dramonic's best bet is living off of this. The downside was keeping Serene alive.

Serene, hopefully you can still show some usefulness because if Dram flips scum, you're probably fucked next night.

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:54 am

Also until we see a Scum B Flip, I don't think we're in multiball even more than I did before. Hawk, Cephrir, and Calcifer have one thing in common - They SCREAM SK.

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:46 am

In post 4421, dramonic wrote:All kidding aside, I'm pretty sure DGB doesn't think I'm scum, so FU kuribo >=(

...Is that all you got?

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:29 am

Don't you at least... have a defense?

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:20 am

Crabs, Stubs (This more, looking at his ISO), and Dram lynch are still all okay with me.

Also here's some food for thought, not to defend Dram, but let's just say he is Town BP and we're dealing with an SK. Mafia attacked Dram, SK attacked Cephrir (Unless someone can explain to me why they hit one of their own), and I attacked Orc. Given all the events that happened last night, that doesn't seem THAT unlikely

Then we've got the claim of the town roleblocker, whom, Shadi can't really confirm or deny most likely I'm willing to bet, but if he can that would be something.

This is all a headache. I need a break for a bit.

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:26 am

Actually fuck it, I'll play around for a bit

Dram, have you been hit?

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:53 pm

Don't do L-1. Dram can just self-hammer.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:37 am

i didn't know what to think of it because taco

But on a serious note, yeah, it was just a mason claim to me and Dram was just coasting.

What crumb?

Anyways, I think we should lynch Dram still because we don't know if we have an SK or we're in multiball. I thought about it, and at first I thought he was town from my Point of View, but then I remembered possible multiball among other things. To be honest, I think I'm probably the highest person to believe Dram's claim and I still think there's a high possibility of BS. (Just because baiting as a mason + My shot worked)

Meh. How long do you say we keep this day going? We don't need a week.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:52 am

Worst case scenario would blow in this case. The worst part is now our cleared towns and others have been made total WIFOM. I honestly think I'm going to be kept around till endgame at this rate. |:

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:58 am

Also once again, has your BP been used up?
How long are we going to keep this going today?

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:33 am

Really? That was necessary? That's quite rude to say the least. You didn't have to say fuck five times, but whatever. I think it's bad enough that Orc quit the game; you don't have to make more people feel like shit.

It's not like we have a clear guilty unlike yesterday. I understand that this fakeclaim nonsense needs to be sorted out, and believe me, I'm not happy about it either. I'm trying to ask questions here to gauge my own opinion, and I'm trying to inject some life into the conversation. Just as an FYI, I'm the one who

told

you guys that Dram could just self-hammer and why L-2 is a fine enough place. If you guys want to even use all the deadline time, sure, whatever. I don't give a shit. We have our lynch for today either way, let's just not run around in circles.

As for the shots I've made, Stevie was a good shot. I can't say as much about Orc, but considering the roleblock WIFOM that WOULD exist now if I didn't shoot him, I damn well say that was a good shot. Maybe most of you wouldn't have done it exactly how I've done, and I'll admit I've made my mistakes. It's a sad day when I've got us in this situation, but if it wasn't for that, all we'd have is more townies, which really wouldn't mean much if they were kept around for fucking lynchbait anyways. Unless we just have an SK or a second scumteam that just loves to shoot fucking lynchhbait. I made some bad calls. I feel bad enough.

Here's the thing I have: Dram hasn't said whether he's hit yet or not. I'm fine with lynching the BP claim as is regardless even if it does make sense from my point of view. Why? It's going to hold way too much WIFOM until the future days now.

What I just don't see is this: If Serene is scum and Dram is town, why would they do that? Unless we're playing with multiball here, I just can't see any reason for that. I think it's probably either town and town, both are scum, or Dram's scum. I'm going to avoid saying too much to give scum ideas, but these are just my thoughts overall.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:39 am

Rift Adrift wrote:I share my partner's sentiments about your kill choice ThirdKoopa. I will never ever understand your N3 kill.

And there absolutely no reason to be rushing this day to conclusion. Your still having a wall post in you proves that.

I'll agree that Orc wasn't the best kill, but as I said, let's say we did go through with the massclaim. Crab's block would end up meaning a ton of shit (Assuming Crab's town). I'll still say it wasn't the best kill choice and I should have probably went with what I originally had in mind: Jon or Stubbs. If we lose the game because of that, I'll take part of the blame for fucking that up.

Still can't say Stevie was a bad shot at least, though. And at the very least, I didn't do what I was REALLY scared of - Hitting a town PR.

I

never

said we should rush this day to a conclusion. I'm asking how long you all want to spend on it - I think another 48 hours at the very

least

is good. I have a lot in me to say before we hit night, and a LOT left to ISO.

I do also want to know because I want to have an idea how much time we have left so I don't pull a Night 3 again.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:44 am

Also, if I did at any point say we should rush the day, that's a my bad. I thought about it more as well, and we definitely have more on the plate than Day 3.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:44 am

Also, if I did at any point say we should rush the day, that's a my bad. I thought about it more as well, and we definitely have more on the plate than Day 3.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:50 am

August 20th?

Well, I don't think we need to use all the way until that late for sure. I say at the earliest we end the day is the 11th. We still have a lot to talk about.

And yeah... I don't get how Serene is the better lynch. Dram will give us info no matter what he flips.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:12 am

In post 4486, Baezu wrote: There's plenty of time in the day to change wagons if presented with better evidence.

IF. Though, this bakes the question: What

would

be better evidence? What would be enough for

you

? Let's say the wagon is in your control. My interest has piqued.

In post 4483, Rift Adrift wrote: Simon says... (or in this case Syr says)

Not following Syr's instructions will result in fery having a Serene level meltdown. For your sake, I recommend you shut the fuck up.

You're telling a fellow member of town to STFU. How is that helpful at all? If it's not too rude to ask, try actually replying. If it's how long we should use in the day, you can just say "However damn long we please". I'm not in any rush to end the day, and I for sure don't see this day ending anytime.

And no, I'm not going to stay quiet. That's just being useless. I want to at least make up for the damage I've done as failvig, shutting up.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:25 am

In post 4490, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 4488, Thirdkoopa wrote:a fellow member of town
You shouldn't be that sure I'm town. Unless you know it for a fact.

There we go, we've cooled down now, anyways...

I'm taking this in the context of if you are town or scum, not saying that you are town. It's not productive at all... Well, unless you're scum to be getting rid of a protown voice, but I don't have much confidence in most of my reads so far right now anyways

(this might change after I ISO)

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:31 am

In post 4493, Rift Adrift wrote: Do not patronize me.

Hey, I'm complementing you. Even if you are scum, you'll benefit the town more by getting me to shut up.

/low self confidence

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:55 am

I'm going to actually agree with Rift here. While I've been playing for a while, I'm rusty, I replaced in when this game had at least 2k posts, and a lot of stuff has been going over my head. Yeah, I've been playing together ISOing today, but I don't think I should be leading just because I'm the closest thing we've got right now.

Even if I did lead, I'd want you all to still have your own thoughts and opinions. The number one thing I hate is leading town and having town do nothing.

Fact is still, even if I was playing less rusty, there'd still need to be other thoughts, and I still shouldn't be leading.

Time to sit down and get some ISO's done. I'm going to still make more of a use of myself than sheeping on other suspicions.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:16 am

I found like, five interesting posts from Ank.

Five

. I've never been good at ISOing, but this game really isn't helping.

In post 108, Ankamius wrote:Alright, I'm going to treat hydras that don't sign posts as a single person.

Calcifer is town.
BROseidon is scum.
Nero is town.
TheIrishPope is town, but bad town.
KingCrabd is town.
Zdenek is town.

UNVOTE: Nero
VOTE: BROseidon

There's no inconsistencies, at least not yet, but I haven't noticed you saying much on Bro afterwards. Most of the others have flipped.

In post 147, Ankamius wrote:
In post 35, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 34, BROseidon wrote: Also like TiP for town.
Good good.
VOTE: TIP
obvscum
This is the most likely post. I've self-voted before in response to attention as scum before, but the situations are different enough that I'm not really sure how this specifically would be applicable to it.

...What use does this here have?

In post 250, Ankamius wrote:Also, finally looked at Stevie. Scumread.

BROseidon is still my biggest scumread, though. Let's run him through.

I want more for you to back this up with. No, really. I mean, granted, I'll be ISOing him either today or tomorrow, but you say this with nothing else.

In post 277, Ankamius wrote:Or.

We could get a scumflip off of BROseidon today.

Then tomorrow, we nuke T S O or Stevie.

Sounds like a better plan to me.

Here's what I don't like in this post: Chaining lynches.

In post 4382, Ankamius wrote:VOTE: Dramonic

I see no way Dramonic is town here.

Yeah, I can agree up with that.

Now here's what I'm wondering. If timestamps are something, Ank had to have gotten his results before the scene. He posted literally two minutes after the scene - That's something to note. I don't exactly know how modding works around here (Speaking of which, I need to finish my game!)

And to top it all off

BROseidon wrote:And agreed with DOMO that TK is our most confirmed town. I think Dram is our lynch today and we need to discuss how we are going to sort out the Ank/BS situation, given the four possibilities of:

1) Ank telling truth and BS town
2) Ank telling truth and BS godfather
3) Ank lying and BS partner
4) Ank lying and BS town

I feel like 3 and 4 are less likely because we haven't had a counterclaim or claim of another investigative role. That said, the godfather idea isn't bad; BS hasn't been a strong townie at any point in the game, and coasting off a cop inno is a great strat for a gf.

Pretty much this. I'll wait until the massclaim to see what we come up with, but I feel that 1 and 2 are our most likely bets. Baby Spice better get in doing something. I say we consider it in our possibilities tomorrow.

Also, we're forgetting investgation immune SK but that pretty much falls under godfather.

Here's what I think of Ank in conclusion:

It's parroting everyone else, but I'm really gonna wait for the massclaim tomorrow. I see him as town because looking back, his bandwagon was kinda like Nero's. I do want him to post more even if he doesn't have too much to say, but I'll give him the benefit of doubt until a Baby Spice flip happens at least. I thought he was scum at first... and I do take some of that back, but I'm not sure with full confidence I can take all of that back. I think I can still take most. Mostly town for now.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:40 am

In post 4511, Baby Spice wrote:ThirdKoopa, what did you mean by "So I don't pull a day 3 again"?

uh

i probably don't remember by now unless you quote it for me

but if it was about how i was doing, it's probably because i did nothing that day

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:06 am

In post 4514, dramonic wrote:I dont have a limit on my bpness.

uh...

...uh....

...uh...

WHAT.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:24 am

No really, WHAT. Okay, yeah, that pretty much sets me in on lynching Dram for today. I didn't even think the claim was serious to begin with.

And as for other possibilities from a missing kill, I think the massclaim may have something in there, maybe.

I'll do more ISOing later today or tomorrow if I've got the time.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:42 am

oh OKAY. That.

Basically so I have time to get all my thoughts out instead of doing what I did last time and doing something last minute. We have until the 20th at latest. The

20th

. I have all the time to do fancy ISO's, catch up more, do some bandwagon analysis, and talk to some peeps.

Though I've got my lynch already today. I don't know about the rest of you, but fuck BP claims are terrible, full BP's worse.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:05 pm

I don't even trust my gut either. It won't stop me from speaking up, but I for sure won't trust it. By this point in the game, once I make an argument against people, I'm for sure not going to just rely on gut. Not even close. I hope nobody else just uses gut unless they're talking about a few posts or one post instead of a full argument against someone.

More ISO's coming later. Things haven't been the best IRL because drama, but I'm still enjoying this game.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:17 pm

In post 4530, Baby Spice wrote:Hmm that's a strange post by Domo.

Domo, please explaine how asking TK to clarify a comment can be considered role fishing?

...what

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:18 pm

Oh wait, you said Domo. I thought you said Dram.

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:34 pm

In post 4541, Baby Spice wrote:I didn't realize that voting letters after a cop guilty was such a strong town tell.

Hate to say it here, but this. So he voted a cop guilty... So what?

Thirdkoopa · Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:50 pm

Also yeah, he pointed out Cephrir... but that doesn't read townie in my eyes. He hardly did anything. In-fact, it makes it look worse, especially when we talked about vig targets.

Thirdkoopa · Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:35 am

We can't wait for the scum team/s to pick Dram off because he's going to be left around alive for WIFOM at this point no matter his alignment.

Also, if Scum have no counter, you guys realize he's essentially claiming unkillable townie, right?

Thirdkoopa · Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:33 am

In post 4552, Serene wrote:TOO ADORABLE TO LYNCH

dram's avatar is even more adorable than mine

it's just

so cute

Thirdkoopa · Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:09 am

I'm for sure going to do VCA tomorrow (Day 5, if I'm somehow alive) but should I even bother doing it today?

I'm hoping somebody continues it if I don't. I don't know about you guys, but I thought the Ank wagon, my wagon, and Bulba's wagon all went incredibly fast: Especially the first two.

Thirdkoopa · Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:43 am

Could be Multiball doesn't necessarily mean is. Though I will admit I'm pretty worried if Dram flips Scum A and we've successfully killed no Scum B this whole game so far.

With all that in mind though, I think both are town for at least now. The no visit is interesting, but of course, that's even less of a clear than the godfather WIFOM with baby spice.

How I'm still alive? I dunno. Doctor? Bodyguard?

Thirdkoopa · Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:16 am

Yeah of course. We know that. The question is just which one it is; I think SK's more likely but that's just me.

And yeah, but scum aren't sure which one it is. Then again if a doctor protected me or someone else last night, that sure as hell wasn't a body guard.

Thirdkoopa · Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:03 am

Yeah. 5-6 probably means one mafia while 3-4 probably means multiball. And if one of the teams gets something that isn't "The Mafia", that might give it away as well.

Thirdkoopa · Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:52 pm

In post 4580, Serene wrote:
In post 4561, Thirdkoopa wrote:I'm for sure going to do VCA tomorrow
Today, please!

Thanks for the encouragement! I really need to add some of you on skype

I'll get onto it tomorrow (As in the day, not the phase); I did the Day 1 wagon but with the flips, it'd be worth doing Day 1 and Day 2 side by side. Can anyone just get the votes on their own? I'd like my wagon and Ank's wagon as well. I think we can get the most from those two wagons.

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:38 pm

So Nero was lynched on Day 1 and now we can go back to that and have some fun. First thing to notice is TMTtoomanyfreakingletters has his vote on Goat - Does it mean anything, or was it just RVS? Next...

the "lol what happened here" vote count

In post 2129, PeregrineV wrote:
Vote Count 1-14

(as of Post 2018)

Nero (13)
- Rift Adrift,
Zdenek
, KingCrabd, Shadi1337, Baby Spice,
Cephrir
, BROseidon,
ProHawk, BulbaFenix,
Serene,
StevieT92
, dramonic,
TheIrishPope

StevieT92 (4)
- The Goat, StubbsKVM, Metal Sonic, orcinus_theoriginal

BROseidon (2)
- Brian Hollywood, DOMO

Calcifer (1)
- Ankamius

BulbaFenix (1)
- Calcifer

Shadi1337 (1)
- Thirdkoopa

The Goat (1)
- TMTOLBTWNTOF

Ankamius (1)
- Nero

Not Voting (0)
-

With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch

Nero has been lynched!!

So next off, I don't think the RVS there is interesting unless someone has something to point out.

Okay, Rift, Crab, Shadi, Baby Spice, Bro, Serene, and Dramonic.

Rift and Crab, I don't think either of you are scum until we get at least a Scum B flip if that exists, but if it does, don't mind me if I'm paranoid of you two. I've seen you guys (Especially Crab, partially because of D2's events) as pretty townie, and I don't think there'd be a reason for BOTH of you to claim today as scum.

Next we've got Shadi who honestly, was bandwagonning like shit as I pointed out D2. You don't just vote and add no content unless there's a clear guilty: You just don't do that. BRO at least had more reason.

We've got Baby Spice as well but I'll wait for the massclaim: Shadi and Bro look more suspicious now because they don't have an Inno, but as I said earlier as well, SK's can appear inno as well. Basically, I think you all three aren't in a good range, ESPECIALLY because of Cephrir and we have a feeling how the rest of this looks like. I'll need an ISO later.

Serene... Honestly, you're fine.

Dram I think you're scum anyways so bye bye; we'll only get more information from your flip anyways.

And then you've got the Stevie wagon. I don't remember who Goat's replacement was, but it's surely something to look into, especially since he was lynchbait and I believe one member of scum to be around that whole thing. Honestly, I got Nero confused with Stevie at certain parts.

Okay, this is all I can do for tonight. I'm going to a movie and getting Mario & Luigi: Dream Team tomorrow, but this is mainly my thoughts on the first Day. Gonna go back and check if Stevie ever got more votes.

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:43 pm

And here's the other two most important ones that weren't RVS.

In post 1329, PeregrineV wrote:
Vote Count 1-11

(as of Post 1328)

BulbaFenix (5)
- Calcifer, Rift Adrift, Serene, dramonic, TheIrishPope

StevieT92 (5)
- Nero, The Goat, Zdenek, BulbaFenix, StubbsKVM

BROseidon (3)
- ProHawk, Brian Hollywood, DOMO

Shadi1337 (1)
- T S O

Zdenek (1)
- StevieT92

Nero (1)
- Doc Holliday

The Goat (1)
- TMTOLBTWNTOF

StubbsKVM (1)
- Baby Spice

Not Voting (6)
- BROseidon, Ankamius, orcinus_theoriginal, Shadi1337, KingCrabd, Metal Sonic

Okay so, Bulba's wagon... mostly useless. Stevie's wagon however has one person added, no wait, two. One being Nero himself, the other being Zde. Unfortunately that gets use nowhere either with both flipping town.

There's also BRO's, but meh, that didn't go far. Here's something interesting though once we get Dram's flip:

In post 1106, PeregrineV wrote:
Vote Count 1-8

(as of Post 1104)

dramonic (5)
- KingCrabd, Metal Sonic, StubbsKVM, BulbaFenix, Shadi1337

BROseidon (4)
- ProHawk, Brian Hollywood, DOMO, Serene

Serene (4)
- orcinus_theoriginal, Ankamius, TheIrishPope, BROseidon

StevieT92 (3)
- Nero, The Goat, Zdenek

Doc Holliday (2)
- Calcifer, Rift Adrift

Shadi1337 (1)
- T S O

Zdenek (1)
- StevieT92

Nero (1)
- Doc Holliday

Mac (1)
- dramonic

The Goat (1)
- TMTOLBTWNTOF

StubbsKVM (1)
- Baby Spice

Not Voting (0)
-

I can't say too much on Dram here until after his flip, but something feels a bit out of place no matter what. I'm not sure how the votes were done, but if I die tomorrow, THIS here is a place that might want to be looked into before the lynch/massclaim.

I didn't see the votes though, so it's not like the Nero wagon and furthermore mine or Ank's that felt scum driven and fueled as hell. Plus I wasn't around for either of those, so it wasn't like when I came back from tennis and saw an ASSLOAD of votes.

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:46 pm

For now my suspicions are on Stevie, Shadi, and BRO. I think there's scum in one of the three, but I'm willing to wait since we're prospering through with Dram. DOMO, Rift, and Crabd feel town to me. Serene's probably town; not as sure if Dram flips scum but if he flips scum Serene will probably die anyways so meh. With the Tracker claim I'm not as sure of what to think about Baby Spice/Ank, but I'd at least wait to prosper next lynch before going with Baby Spice, and null read on everyone else. Jon's scummy, but I'd need an ISO. penguin_alien has been through an assload of replacements so mostly null for now. Baezu I'm leaning scum.

There's my quick thoughts. I'll try to get out the ISO's and the rest of the VCA's in the next 48 hours. If I take too long, feel free to hammer since people might do a better job than me anyways.

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:16 pm

In post 4605, Ankamius wrote:BTW Stevie died.

yeah I know I might have not clarified that enough/made a mistake

Thirdkoopa · Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:25 pm

no posts really

where'd you guys go ;-;

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:02 am

In post 4613, Shadi1337 wrote:If I remember correctly (I cba looking back) I was fine with a Nero wagon but he was never the best option. I think t was Stevie back then (to my surprise, he was town). Also it's funny how half of the people on that wagon are holy?

More like half the wagon is DEAD/has claimed

It really narrows things down when that's happened.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:39 am

Jon can't be vigged, at least, not by me Penguin.

I'll VCA once I get back from singing class at latest. I don't think ISOing is useful at this point for the rest of the day since other people can do it for their arguments

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:11 am

I for sure don't think Crab is clear, and honestly, I've thought it since D2. His entire fake hammer thing was bull and could have resulted in worse happening.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:50 am

Dram, reads list and more in-case you are actually town.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:16 am

I'll do a VCA of Day 2 so Dream Team doesn't suck my life and then we can close the day. I've got nothing for Day 3.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:51 am

I'm scared if I make it to lylo ._.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:00 pm

I know right? lolololfullBP

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:25 pm

VCA quickly coming in right now. I'll probably make it to tomorrow at least.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:43 pm

In post 3791, PeregrineV wrote:
Vote Count 2-11

(as of Post 3508)

BulbaFenix (11)
- DOMO, Cephrir (flipped Scum), KingCrabd, Thirdkoopa, Calcifer (Flipped Town), Metal Sonic, Zdenek (Flipped Town), Serene, Rift Adrift, Baby Spice, StubbsKVM

Ankamius (2)
- The Goat, dramonic

StevieT92 (1)
- BROseidon

Thirdkoopa (1)
- Shadi1337

Zdenek (1)
- Brian Hollywood

Marquis (1)
- Ankamius

BROseidon (1)
- StevieT92

Cephrir (1)
- BulbaFenix

Not Voting (2)
- orcinus_theoriginal, TMTOLBTWNTOF

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch

Deadline:
Wednesday, July 24, at 9am Central Time

BulbaFenix has been lynched!!

So wow, okay, not many town on this wagon that have flipped. I can't find much on Ank's or mine either but...

This makes me rethink over Metal Sonic a bit more. Once again, same stuff on the rest as before. Stubbs hammer... I don't even know if I can blame him really. I'm kinda stuck.

In post 3058, PeregrineV wrote:
Vote Count 2-7

(as of Post 3057)

Thirdkoopa (8)
- Cephrir, Calcifer, KingCrabd, Ankamius, StevieT92, DOMO, Shadi1337, TMTOLBTWNTOF

Ankamius (7)
- Baby Spice, Zdenek, Rift Adrift, StubbsKVM, dramonic, Serene, The Goat

StevieT92 (2)
- BROseidon, Thirdkoopa

Zdenek (1)
- Brian Hollywood

DOMO (1)
- BulbaFenix

Not Voting (2)
- orcinus_theoriginal, Marquis

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch

Deadline:
Wednesday, July 24, at 9am Central Time

Replacing:

Brian Hollywood

Prods:

BulbaFenix ((expired on 2013-07-19 03:00:00))

V/LAs:

None

Here we are. Lot's of flips already on my wagon, so if people want to find more scum, I'd suggest looking into both mine and Ank's wagons at the peaks since they went fast. The Goat, Shadi, and Stubbs point out to me here, and Brian Hollywood's vote is just... I don't even know

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:47 pm

I may be caring less because a Mario RPG game is right in my face, but if I die tonight,

do proper VCA on the first two days, people

and I did say my suspicions. For sure be wary with the massclaim, and go for ISO's.

All I have to say left. Everyone, let's close this day. Dram, post a reads list while you still can.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:47 pm

...well if you're town that is, if not, save us the time and just selfhammer.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:00 pm

Hey, you can't blame us Town for being suspicious to say the least; you claimed FULL bulletproof compared to measley powered roles.

Thirdkoopa · Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:52 am

Crab who did you block
Stubbs is next to claim. Popcorn style. Let's continue. (I'm just taking Jon's claim)

lol jon's flip

Thirdkoopa · Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:59 am

In post 0, PeregrineV wrote:
Alive (12/24):

Ankamius - 2 Shot Cop (Used Up)
Baby Spice
Baezu
BROseidon
DOMO
KingCrabd - X-Shot Roleblocker (Iunno)
penguin_alien
Rift Adrift - Tracker
Shadi1337
StubbsKVM
Thirdkoopa - 2 Shot Vig (used up)
Serene - Vanilla Town

KingCrabd wrote:Stubbs, thought there was the potential for scum there with the mini reads flipflop i noticed when re-reading overnight.

I say we lynch him after the massclaim unless someone else has some explanation to how there's no second kill.

Thirdkoopa · Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:04 am

okay so yeah

crab could have blocked the scum nightkill which looks even worse on stubbs

let's continue the massclaim first

Thirdkoopa · Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:17 am

In post 4673, KingCrabd wrote:
In post 4667, Thirdkoopa wrote:I say we lynch him after the massclaim unless someone else has some explanation to how there's no second kill.
That's probably not the best idea, but as you said, we'll sort it out after massclaim.

Yeah. I'm well accepting that a doctor for example could be more probable. See, Stubbs, even if he is scum, is still 2/14th based no matter what faction it is. A Doctor save could be 3-4 people performing the kill, for one.

Thirdkoopa · Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:17 am

But yeah let's end this massclaim first. Also inactive people get in here. I'm sick of this bull.

Thirdkoopa · Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:08 pm

In post 4680, KingCrabd wrote:I really should have waited too... my bad guys, sorry.

We've all made our bad calls man. Have a brohug based crab.

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:00 am

You can protect yourself?

Dotdotdot

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:38 am

Can you quote it?

Regardless thanks to the Inno I wouldn't go for you tonight anyways.

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:39 am

By tonight I mean today, lol time zones and lol godaddy calling me. If I'm talking about times by the by guys, I'm usually not relating it to the game

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:40 am

Here's my only problem with the claim (I'm not gonna outguess like I did Dram)

TECHNICALLY you could just defend yourself every other night, not only making you invincible but anyone else of your choice. Hell, you could just use it to say, make you and me or you and rift live to endgame

That's just my only thought. If we see no other protective claim, I can buy it, at least for now.

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:46 am

Alive (12/24):
Ankamius - 2 Shot Cop (Used Up)
Baby Spice - White Mage
Baezu
BROseidon
DOMO - Vanilla Town
KingCrabd - X-Shot Roleblocker (Iunno)
penguin_alien
Rift Adrift - Tracker
Shadi1337 - Vanilla Town
StubbsKVM - Vanilla Town
Thirdkoopa - 2 Shot Vig (used up)
Serene - Vanilla Town

So Baezu, Penguin (For the sake of saving time), and then BRO?

Also until further notice, I'm willing to trust Rift and maybe a bit of Ank.

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:48 am

And I have my thoughts mostly established, but I'll save them for the end of the massclaim.

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:51 am

Or at least until the ones who aren't BRO claim.

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:09 am

is that what it means or protecting someone every two nights

i don't know

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:09 am

EBWOP: I'd like Baby Spice to answer all he can

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:45 am

penguin better get in here fast

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:54 am

In post 4708, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 4705, Thirdkoopa wrote:EBWOP: I'd like Baby Spice to answer all he can
Assuming the claim is legit, then ambiguity about how the role works could be to town's advantage.

Alright.

It might be more useful for him to detail later on but not today.

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:30 pm

In post 4710, StubbsKVM wrote:
In post 4698, DOMO wrote:Yeah that's massively strong, we'd have to expect scum to have a strongman if this claim is true.

I'm vanilla.

Baezu please.
Or a roleblocker?

Roleblocker
Two goons

vs

Two-Shot Vig
Full Bulletproof Town
Doctor that can defend self and defends for two nights

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:58 pm

In post 4712, penguin_alien wrote:
In post 4707, Thirdkoopa wrote:penguin better get in here fast
Or what?

VT.

or i'll bitchslap myself

so just bro is left now

hmm

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:22 am

In post 4720, StubbsKVM wrote:So we're just waiting on Bro then?

Yeah pretty much

Though I am interested in hearing what everyone else thinks of all the claims

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:27 am

Alive (12/24):
Ankamius - 2 Shot Cop (Used Up)
Baby Spice - White Mage
Baezu - Vanilla Town
BROseidon
DOMO - Vanilla Town
KingCrabd - X-Shot Roleblocker (Iunno)
penguin_alien - Vanilla Town
Rift Adrift - Tracker
Shadi1337 - Vanilla Town
StubbsKVM - Vanilla Town
Thirdkoopa - 2 Shot Vig (used up)
Serene - Vanilla Town

So okay, town PR wise, if we assume everything is true, that means we as town have a 2 Shot Cop, a White Mage, a 2 shot Vig, a Tracker, and an X-Shot Roleblocker (I don't know if Crab wants to reveal). Something feels out of place but I personally don't feel an SK would make a PR claim but that's /wifom. Is 6 PR's in a 24 player setup usual for you guys?

I'm more likely to believe Baby Spice/Ank. if I were Baby Spice I'd go with something less ridiculous to fakeclaim and Ank has almost no reason to bus TMT like that unless it was to save his ass in the long run. I think asides from myself, Rift is probably the most town (At least for now) but I'll wait for his track result at the end. I'm not as sure as Crab as I've been suspicious for various reasons from the get-go.

Next up we have six vanilla town claims. I'm thinking at least two be liar's. If Bro claims VT, maybe we're just looking at a ton of VT claims.

Unless Track data appears useful, I'm more inclined to lynch Stubbs, Baezu, or Shadi. This is just some thoughts for now. The fact we had no kill is suspicious, and I kinda want Baby Spice to answer about his restrictions just to see if there's more or less of a chance the kill was stopped, but hey whatever.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:46 am

I've got a start.

Vote: Stubbs

I'm willing to switch to Baezu or Shadi. There's liars in there for sure now, and if all PR's are telling the truth (I'm thinking we might have one liar), this is what we've got.

Crabs, your thoughts on all of the claims?

BTW someone else whoever was suspicious of crabs, crab fully claimed roleblocker. He didn't say how many shots.

Thirdkoopa · Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:34 pm

It'd make sense earlier but now it doesn't: though if anyone's faking be honest.

Ill say more later

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:30 am

i honestly don't even know how I'm still alive

I'm on-board for Baezu or Shadi instead of Stubbs if that's what you guys want. I don't even know anymore.

Thirdkoopa · Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:58 am

Vote: Baezu

I said I'd be willing to change my vote so here it is. Honestly, I'm more inclined to lynching Stubbs personally after the roleblock.

As for White Mage I've got no idea, can someone check that? I read that variations are allowed but that variation seems a little too powerful. (Unless it's can only target the person twice but I didn't get that from my read)

Thirdkoopa · Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:51 am

So are we gonna go through with the Baezu lynch or go with Stubbs?

Honestly, I don't even care which one at this point. I don't mind further discussion but it seems like everyone's either V/LA'd or is dead.

Thirdkoopa · Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:50 am

You also forget we have a ridiculously OP doctor in the mix. If our ridiculously OP doctor is telling the truth, I'm honestly not surprised that our scumteam is failing at kills. There's also the roleblock from tonight to factor in along with the fact I already think both of the kills were from an SK trying to either hit scum or make us all turn on each other.

I also am going to say that while the PR claims could easily be scum, I think the SK is lurking in our VT's.

Rift Adrift wrote:We are leaning Baezu but don't want a wagon at L-1 so soon. I have this slow-boiling mess inside my head that needs to coalesce into quetsions or exclaimations or somthing.

Alright. I can wait.

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:06 am

Well then, how do you explain the missing kill?

I doubt it was a no kill, so either Baby Spice is telling the truth, Crab is telling the truth AND Stubbs is scum, or both are. There's almost no way both are bullshitting or Baby Spice is bullshitting and Stubbs isn't scum.

Baby Spice's role is waaaay too powerful so I want some clarification from him. I want other explinations as well.

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:14 am

Honestly, I say we should go for Stubbs just to get the WIFOM out of the way. If you guys really want to lynch Baezu (Especially before he gets a replacement) I'm willing to help with that. SK's def among our VT's the more I think about it, but hey, maybe scum will pick it off.

AngryPidgeon I love you

I'm really just torn at this point and need to think on it more, but very good content there Rift. Also Rift is town as fuck, just saying that right now. If there's scum in our PR's, I think it's either Baby Spice and/or Crabd.

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:50 am

Vote: Baby Spice

Let's get Baby Spice to answer whether he actually means protecting for two nights or can only protect. I want to get this WIFOM out of the way. I'm still willing to go Baezu or Stubbs easily.

Holy hell, just, this game. This game is making me lose words to say for it. I think we're all gonna be tired by the time this is over.

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:39 am

No.

I shouldn't have shot on N3, but I did with my other shot.
Stevie night 2 and Orc night 3 were my actions.

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:43 am

In post 4913, AngryPidgeon wrote:So Stubbs was blocked last night. And there was one kill unaccounted for. That slot is prolly scum.

Which is why we should lynch him or Baby Spice:

By the by, baby, in your role PM did it say you could defend yourself?

Thirdkoopa · Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:34 pm

I didn't. My first response was basically "wait self protect?"

Also here's another problem. Night 1 and 2

1: should have protected self
2: should have protected me or Ank

:/