New York 182 - Game Over

[droog]

hey all
reread incoming

[droog]

[droog]

not droog

ABR, come make this game fun plz

do i know you

[droog]

reread still incoming

[droog]

reread still incoming

You exist?

hahahaha
what a good joke
no one has ever made a snarky comment
to people who havent posted before

boy im glad you could share that contribution with us
:')

[droog]

hahahaha
what a good joke
no one has ever made a snarky comment
to people who havent posted before

boy im glad you could share that contribution with us
:')

Apparently your reread has been incoming for 2 days, why do you still have nothing.

too busy living the high-powered executive life

[droog]

I have known droog to be a mid-low activity poster

lmao
that was dangan ronpa right
that game was not my usual

[droog]

What is the crap of these first pages
Someone is scummy for not doing anything about it

Sakura? Marquis?

[droog]

Ok THAT makes sense, i remember harassing you a bit on PvZ due to thinking you were scum, sorry about that.
I'll give you some space for now then, but i'll eventually have to interact with you to form a read on you, and the sooner the better otherwise imma start thinking that you just want the right momment to try to strike me emotionally.

PEd: lolwoot.

What is with stuff like this
When did ms start letting people talk
More about the reads they're going to have
Than actually finding reads

[droog]

lynching marquis is always for the greater good of the world
there's no negatives
because i said so
etc

Sad part
This dumb post
Is Probably town not scum

[droog]

I was as going to do some random RVS stuff just bc but its a bit late for that.

Varsoon is town. His wagon reeks badly of a scum run up.

He has not even posted and he is about to get lynched. Unless someone can give me a darn good reason to scum read him than I am going to presume he is town . I would be shocked if there was not atleast a few scum on that wagon

Funny how Choof asked about the Vasoon wagon and he got ran off. I really dont like this. I am pondering if this was townies acting badly or some type of scum tactic.

so yeah tell me why we are running up Vasoon before he even posts.

Nonsense
It's a day 1 early wagon

But what's more impirtant
While you complain about Carson being run up
You don't point at anyone in particular

So.... Who's scum for pushing this wagon?
Thor? Is Thor scum?
Do you suspect Thor for supporting sometilhignn you suspect?

[droog]

Can't you just put it in a single post? otherwise people are just going to complain about #AmmountOfPages again

"People are going to complain
To prove my point, waaaaaaaaaah"

People may complain about my post length instead

@ flubber
Pages 1-4, first half of 5
It's a circus of newbs doing nothing productive
Or even doing anything enjoyable
That none of the more experienced player
Try to put a stop to

[droog]

ITT :

• People starting a 22 player WAY TOO FAST.
  
• Crappy music.
  
• People not feeling the game enough that they feel the need to replace out. Meaning some of you are actually not welcomong towards other players during dawn. Really shitty attitude to have.
  
• A weird wagon

I don't think I've played with any of you (as BBmolla was replaced), I've been on site for a while but didn't play that much in the last years due to unforeseen medical issues. I had a bad reputation but that shouldn't be a problem anymore. I live in a civilized area of the world (ie: Paris, France) so I sleep when most of you are going crazy.

Right now I dig thor., the rest is meh. I won't vote because we have a dangerous wagon at L-2 that I don't caution right now.

Good luck & Have fun peeps.

PMuch all my RVS thoughts
Good posting good entrance

[droog]

Wow hated? that's why you managed to become a magnet of votes! (joking i know what hated means).
I didn't know Hated/Loved were Normal roles.
As for everyone wondering about the wagon on Varsoon, and Thor's questioning that's Thor being Thor.
A Translation of Thor's intent for those that don't know him:
Thor likes early wagons run up as high as L-1 as soon as possible.
Such wagons can get interesting reactions from other people and the person being wagoned.
Since Varsoon should be a nullread at most for anyone and has the highest ammount of votes, he assumes the only reason someone wouldn't vote him is because of a townread or him, or a scumread on someone else. Hence his questioning.

Notice also that when i said i was townreading the people voting Varsoon some people jumped in to vote in.

Me harassing people not voting him as possible scum partners was waiting to see who and how would cave in to pressure. choof became a scumread out of that, Gorky whatchamacallit became a townread instead, antihero im still not sure on, but if he's town he'll become obvious eventually. I agree with pisskop about the replace out being null, but i just can't find it in me to think that his feelings about not knowing what was going on weren't genuine.
Anyway, copper decides to vote Varsoon and leave, not even thoughts, not even reaction about the wagon being formed, so i'm going to go there now.

Unvote
Vote: copper

PEd: Good morning anti

This is not something I noticed
Which people voted varsoon
Specifically after your town read comment

Do you think any of them did it
All because you gave varsoon voters town credit

[droog]

Good to know droog is town

Hey flubber
Long time no see
How's the degree going
Also why do you think this

[droog]

Haryana, please explain it again
If I got something wrong

[droog]

Thank you
That looks much townier
Than everything I've read from your slot before

I disagree ok the reaction test
I almost always jump on day 1 early wagons
Because it's useful
But then again maybe this is how they're useful to you

Why so you think floor
Is scum and not newb town?

[droog]

*choof

[droog]

UNVOTE:

[droog]

While I don't like otillas style
He's not talking about fruit
He passes for now

[droog]

Fuzzy and Elusive, the only way I see them as scum is if they are buddies, I completely messed up my Choof read and Elusive after pocketing me decided it was more expedient to normalize her read on me in case a lynch could be pushed, that is such a concatenation of unlikely choices I am discounting it.

What I think is more likely is that Choof (now Fuzzy) was town, got annoyed by not ubderstanding what was going on and nobody empathizing with him (strong indicator that he had no buddies) and left, and both Elusive and I figured out his alignment from it, I'd be willing to bet 20$ they are both town.

Don't like this post
Something about it screams
"I'm going to admit my faults
So I look more honesty"

[droog]

Also Formerfish tended to lurk as scum only after getting townread by most, to begin with he tried his best to look like he was scumhunting, then he posted only when necessary, in the game we played where he was mafia traitor, for those asking about his scum meta.

This is a pretty easy andwer

[droog]

I'll vote flames
Ok the founds
He's distracting with nots sci e

VOTE: flames

[droog]

Don't worry droog.
Copper's my pet project.

What does this mean

[droog]

what exactly does this proof mean
can we expect 'whoops i got roleblocked'
will bulge scream 'varsoon is town' like a bugle
is it scummy of me for even asking

[droog]

wow

probably going to lurk now until things deg interesting again

[droog]

Thor or Antihero,

both have a good chance of being scum after those flip, one guy said FF lurks as scum, I think that person is town (sorry can't check, too busy working 12+ hours today ), Elusive and Fuzzy also town, waiting to read from Varsoon.

agree on principle
but i put copper in the asme mental grouping

[droog]

wow

probably going to lurk now until things deg interesting again

no

?

[droog]

Copper is town
Or "not scum"
?

[droog]

Is there a difference?
Only under some elaborate circumstances would Copper be scum.

might be in multiball

[droog]

Is this game going back to making no sense?

\are you gonna put a stop to it

[droog]

so.
stop complaining about nothing making sense
ask some questions so other people can make sense
or make sense yourself

town doesn thave a maid
to look after you and take care of you
take some responsibility for things

[droog]

if theres scum on this page
id put it in this order

marquis > antihero > gork > house

[droog]

@thor i=
lets you and i have a real scum talk

Also I don't like how OkaPoka is suddenly following me to help me out. Gives me bad vibes because scum likes to buddy me a lot lately.
Why can't people just be freaking town, how many scum do we even have to deal with here.

IM FOLLOWING YOU?

NO

COME AND VOTE VARSOON WITH ME!

What can he even do if we let him live a night? he said he'd be confirmed town tomorrow right? And I already said i'd make sure he doesnt pull anything funny.

maybe he'll get his scumbuddy piss to claim cop and invest him.

That'd be quite suspicious, he said he'd be confirmed tomorrow, if someone else comes and claims a cop on him then i wouldn't trust it, if he has ways to confirm himself then he can go ahead and do that.
Basically he has to confirm himself on his own, not rely on someone to cop him, and if he doesnt then we'll powerlynch him then.

maybe he'll get his scumbuddy piss to claim cop and invest him.

That'd be quite suspicious, he said he'd be confirmed tomorrow, if someone else comes and claims a cop on him then i wouldn't trust it, if he has ways to confirm himself then he can go ahead and do that.
Basically he has to confirm himself on his own, not rely on someone to cop him, and if he doesnt then we'll powerlynch him then.

And you just got a townie lynch for free!
And you allowed mafia to get off the hook for a day!

CONGRATULATIONS!

I thought you were scumreading him?

what do you think of oka z sakura

something about it soundsfishy to me
sakura spent like 20 posts in a row
talking about one player only

[droog]

if theres scum on this page
id put it in this order

marquis > antihero > gork > house

no you wouldn't

Y

[droog]

While I approve of the end result, Im confused as to how we got there. Why do you vote anti?

Felt like Varsoon/Anti had a town/scum vibe to it.

@thor i=
lets you and i have a real scum talk

Shouldn't we only do that in the QT?

what do you think of oka z sakura

something about it soundsfishy to me
sakura spent like 20 posts in a row
talking about one player only

It doesn't feel like a scum/scum conversation to me, especially with the dig at the end...from both of them.

So do you think Sakura
Busses somebkdy
Or only town

[droog]

there are probly two scum teams
i dont see otolla as scum on the mafia faction
really i dont see him as too scummy at all
hes just annoying when he calls out bullshit

didnt he do something like that with sakura
i dont see that happening between scummates

[droog]

what are you doing
that you can watch the thread
and respond faster than the time it took me
to write that post

eh i could bitch more but youve got a fair point
i dont like marquise
zzzx is pinging a few bells
these two especially for being the sort of

[droog]

whooro

[droog]

players who arent saying a lot
and are being just coy in the thread

[droog]

ight also say copper
but ta that point im making too many reados
comparied to the amuont of time ive actualy spent reading

[droog]

Looks like you are overthinking it Pisskop.

- Thor pushed for a flash wagon and Sakura immediately backed him up with her fake reaction test.

- Thor built a case out of thin air based on his interpretation of how you are supposed to cite meta in a post which was different from how I used it and Sakura backed him up agai by voting me.

Based on the above it's more likely than not that Thor and Sakura are on the same team.

- Sakura defended Anti by first saying she thought he was town based on his scumread of Varsoon, then she switched to conf town, in a game where he might be on the opposite scumteam or a third party so the only players you have a vested interest in townreading when they are under pressure are your mstes, and tried to pull me off that read as hard as she could.

- Sakura Anti and Thor were a strong part of the probably bad Varsoon push.

- The interaction between Anti and Thor, and Anti's posts after getting called out are very awkward.

Based on the above it's likely Anti is scum.

As for Sakura not covering her back, why would she, she was in a good position and fairly in control of the game, if she didn't get unlucky by picking on Varsoon the vig/SK she was not getting lynched anytime soon, in her position I would also spend some towncred shielding a teammate getting some flak, so that is not a valid argument in my eyes.

wait wait wait wait

then she switched to conf town, in a game where he might be on the opposite scumteam

how would sakura have known there were two scumteams

[droog]

I told you what I think of Varsoon, I was one of the first that agreed it was looking like a fakeclaim 292 because his whole talk about judging him for his play as opposed to his claim and

trying to downplay the value of claims in general sounded to me like him either rationalizing the bad play he had just made or preemptively defending himself

in case he was forced to admit it was a fakeclaim. Having played with him and knowing he can be flighty with claims I am inclinded to believe he is town, with no great degree of confidence.

sounds like a stretch
it just so happens
that the leading wagon of day 1
who claims to be able to clear himself
is also the scummiest player

[droog]

going through his ciso
i get he feeling
he scumreads anyone willing to argue with hmi

[droog]

i think 1195 is pretty damning
VOTE:

[droog]

VOTE: copper

[droog]

P-Edit: Droog. You're forgetting that copper is a part of my towncult now.

not forgetting anything
havent read recently

whats a towncult
can i lynch it?

[droog]

your not really impressing me with a case gork

[droog]

Looks like you are overthinking it Pisskop.

- Thor pushed for a flash wagon and Sakura immediately backed him up with her fake reaction test.

- Thor built a case out of thin air based on his interpretation of how you are supposed to cite meta in a post which was different from how I used it and Sakura backed him up agai by voting me.

Based on the above it's more likely than not that Thor and Sakura are on the same team.

- Sakura defended Anti by first saying she thought he was town based on his scumread of Varsoon, then she switched to conf town, in a game where he might be on the opposite scumteam or a third party so the only players you have a vested interest in townreading when they are under pressure are your mstes, and tried to pull me off that read as hard as she could.

- Sakura Anti and Thor were a strong part of the probably bad Varsoon push.

- The interaction between Anti and Thor, and Anti's posts after getting called out are very awkward.

Based on the above it's likely Anti is scum.

As for Sakura not covering her back, why would she, she was in a good position and fairly in control of the game, if she didn't get unlucky by picking on Varsoon the vig/SK she was not getting lynched anytime soon, in her position I would also spend some towncred shielding a teammate getting some flak, so that is not a valid argument in my eyes.

What is damning about this post Droog?

why do you assume
that sakura knew there wsa a second scumteam

[droog]

there are other things i coudl cover
like you suspecting thro for his varsson push
when thor always pushes the first wagon


but you have a lotta splainin to do
about why your erad relies
on sakura knowing something
we dont even know

[droog]

not to mention the jump between
"sakura would know there are two scumteams"
and
"sakura would never defend anyone unless they were a buddy"

[droog]

not to mention the jump between
"sakura would know there are two scumteams"
and
"

sakura would never defend anyone unless they were a buddy

"

You are making the assumption for me by deleting the word

might

from my sentence about sakura and her knowledge as scum, and deleting

would only have a vested interest in defending

from the bolded so you have sone explaining to do as far as I am concerned.

What I did was ask myself, why would Sakura call Anti obvious town when it is very likely that even as scum you don't have that information, my conclusion was that the most likely reason was she had a vested interest in calling him such because they are partners and it looked like a wagon was getting started, Anti claims his town/scum meta is skewed enough that she is supposed to say that when playing with him else that would be suspicious for her, I think that's possible but not part of my information set when I thought and wrote about it in the post, it's stil an iffy connection between the two.

I am suspicious of Thor because of the support and possible "teamwork" that I see during the Varsoon push between him and Sakura, not because he pushed the first wagon per se, in fact at the time I joined that wagon and was fine with it, so that's another misunderstanding or misrep from you.

you set up a false choice
especially because anti could be a second scum factior or a third party

and sakura had no basis for assuming those things about anti
at all.

What I did was ask myself, why would Sakura call Anti obvious town when it is very likely that even as scum you don't have that information,

why woudl not having that info matter to sakura
don ttell me youve never
ever
seen scum call a townie obvtown

or is this where that 'might' comes in
cause you cant have it both ways
that sakura clearing anti
might make him town
and might make him scum

[droog]

@Droog

Precisely because she likely couldn't possibly know if he is obv. town

I found that read suspicious, particularly because her level of certainty kept on increasing the more Anti was focused on, she also gave what I now suspect to be a BS read about Anti being frustrated with Varsoon, something I did not see when reviewing his ISO, which I also find a pretty risky thing to di.

She started saying Anti was likely town because of his Varsoon case, then after I made my case on him she said she stood by her initial read that he is likely town, then after Anti got some more flak she came out with the obv. town statement and finally appeared to be trying to convince me about him being town, all this is fishy, it is slightly less indicative if it's true that Anti is an easy townread for her so she was white knighting there, I did not have that information at the time and Anti looks like anything but confirmed to me so I did not think spending scum capital defending him was a worthwhile strategy, if many however can read him as town then doing it for the towncred is a possibility.

what does that mean
someone cant knsow if someone else is obvtown?
sakura cant know her own opinion?

sure she was lying a big one
but 'sakura townread anti in a really scummy way'
is different from what you're claiming

[droog]

is ika really dodging a case
on some pronoun bs moral high ground
meh
that kind of garbage only comes from town

[droog]

her thor, if you cant get elusives gender right im not just going to blaitently ignore you

hell i thougth i
was being unenjoyaxble this game

[droog]

i guess my problem with the seoh wagon
is seoh hasnt really done anything
which isnt a problem at all

i was going to iso this kid and hes got 22 posts
a couple 'this person is town' type posts is about it

[droog]

from my understanding of the set up there likely only two scenerio

2 scum team or a scum team and a ww team... likely 3 people each team
or a 5 party scum team. Theeses are the most lpopolur set up as far as I can tell.

either way there is atleast 1 more scum on the FF/ Sakura scum team.

I am kinda baffled that the town is pretty much ignoring two confscum flips

Thor- exactly what do you want me to answer????

what about the flips
do you think
is worth paying attention to?

[droog]

from my understanding of the set up there likely only two scenerio

2 scum team or a scum team and a ww team... likely 3 people each team
or a 5 party scum team. Theeses are the most lpopolur set up as far as I can tell.

either way there is atleast 1 more scum on the FF/ Sakura scum team.

I am kinda baffled that the town is pretty much ignoring two confscum flips

Thor- exactly what do you want me to answer????

what about the flips
do you think
is worth paying attention to?

wait two people flip scum and you are asking why we should pay attention to thier flips. This is scum hunting 101 imho . Why wouldnt we not pay attention to them????

yes i am
you want to pay attention to the scum flips?
give me a reason to pay attention

otherwise youre just complaining
that no one else is doing it for you
whats on your mind stranger

[droog]

What is with
All this angst
On Thors slot

His questions look pretty good to me

[droog]

@Droog - actually, you should answer the Thor/Elusive/Ika thing too.
And also offer your thoughts on my Anti case.

I have found your posts okay - but you are assuredly sidelining yourself. Get in the mud and play.

im slacking a bit this game
ill dig up the anti case
what do you mean by the thor/elu/ika thing
i whined a bit about the gender thing
is there something im missing?

[droog]

Vote: Antihero

thor until this post
i think its fair
that you agreed with anti a fair bit

[droog]

@Gork - I am aware of that. But the buddying to me was stranger since she snubbed Anti in order to buddy me - if it was general friendliness why not 'atta bot Anti?
The buddying to you and me prior to that was more "meh".
Though, I suppose if Varsoon flips scum I can just wait to see if there's a second team or SK possibility and write her off for a while regardless - but I wanted the thought out there.

@Sakura - you missed it hard.

And certainly expanded on it far more than Anti, who was keeping it cute. I assuredly clarified that I saw it as an issue first.
Also appeared to call it out first, as far as I can tell.

unless im missing something hard
i dont see the 'expaneded' by this post

[droog]

@Gork - I am aware of that. But the buddying to me was stranger since she snubbed Anti in order to buddy me - if it was general friendliness why not 'atta bot Anti?
The buddying to you and me prior to that was more "meh".
Though, I suppose if Varsoon flips scum I can just wait to see if there's a second team or SK possibility and write her off for a while regardless - but I wanted the thought out there.

@Sakura - you missed it hard.

And certainly expanded on it far more than Anti, who was keeping it cute. I assuredly clarified that I saw it as an issue first.
Also appeared to call it out first, as far as I can tell.

unless im missing something hard
i dont see the 'expaneded' by this post

[droog]

thor can you point me to this anti case
i dont see a big writeup
so much as
slow divorce

[droog]

I don't understand the case on Otolia.
And Sakura forgot to buddy Anti in favor of buddying me, remember?

i say slow because
you liked anti in the beginning
so the general thing is
you went from liking him to not liking him

not much to comment on here
i guess my first response is
'is this a shit test
i have never known thor to give lame questions
why does this one look so lame'

id be willing to lynch anti on sakura-buddy
but id also be wiling to lynch you on that

the only reason i dont
is everyone else is jumping on you

[droog]

complaining about thor
is the new hip in thing

[droog]

im sticking with my vnity wagon

[droog]

I don't understand the case on Otolia.
And Sakura forgot to buddy Anti in favor of buddying me, remember?

i say slow because
you liked anti in the beginning
so the general thing is
you went from liking him to not liking him

not much to comment on here
i guess my first response is
'is this a shit test
i have never known thor to give lame questions
why does this one look so lame'

id be willing to lynch anti on sakura-buddy
but id also be wiling to lynch you on that

the only reason i dont
is everyone else is jumping on you

You actually kind of successfully said nothing here.
Anti and I are "Sakura buddies" for diametrically opposed concepts - if you think one of us makes sense as a buddy then you should not think the other one does.
Do you actually think both cases work?
How?
If not - what are you saying?

Your current vote is pure useless - you have established your belief in Copper scum.
Now - be proactive and ruddy functional and stop pretending like you're actually helping scumhunt via that vote - you're sidelining yourself, That;s bad town or good scum play. Neither is very helpful right now.

It's not both you and anti
I admit this
So I'm not running into anything
"Diametrically oppposed"

I think it's one of you two
I don't think it's you
I'd probably bitch about this being perfectly clear
But I haven't said it until now
So take this as
"I will vote gladly hop on anti"

[droog]

But I'm keeping my vote
I have more case to make
And no t time yet

[droog]

by my count 8 days left

[droog]

@Oka
Or we could lynch a town PR that didn't want to out himself and fucked up when he could confirm himself the day after, you are not looking at the dowside and Sakura's position here makes a lot of sense to me, I don't like 1/2 of those scumreads though.

this is an interesting post on reread
not sure what to make of it yet

[droog]

@Anti
You started with:

There is no Hated in normal setups because the nrg has a stick up it's ass and it would never allow it, so Varsoo

lied so he must be mafia

, let's vote and lynch.

Then after I in particular pointed out that I was reading it as a fakeclaim as well but it could have been a town panic attack and after the wagon stalls you jump off of it using the same logic.

But after it picks up again thanks to Thor and Sakura you get back onto it.

Those transitions don't look natural to me, especially if as you claimed you thought I was scum when I was about to replace out, which means you would have been more likely to discount my take on the Varsoon claim.

hm

theres a lot of back-and'forth with anti
not sure copper and anti would be scum together

[droog]

so why not make something alignment indicativve
would prefer town
but ill take scum

[droog]

so why not make something alignment indicativve
would prefer town
but ill take scum

My last post was directed at Fuzzy, not you.

And that is what I'm trying to do now. Don't you fret, droogy. I got this. I'll catch a scum toDay.

last time i played you
you got lynched day 1
because you couldnt find the scum qt

give me something more to work with here
if youre going to pretend to be in control

[droog]

the fact he is not budging from his bad read of me

and is being marginalized because of it makes me think he might be town. And yes Thor, this is not a meta argument as you classify it, you would call it a gut read.

last few things i said on you
were actually leaning more town
i probably need to switch to anti
but meh ill give this game a reread soon

[droog]

observation
scum encouraged the post flurry
((sakura is still at #2 postcount))

did sucm not burn out then?

[droog]

VOTE: antihero

[droog]

Says the person who just spamposted like a dozen useless posting. Fluff is just as bad as not posting at all. There was hardly anything in that chain of posts that was not fluff.

like what

[droog]

Hello all.
So, I'm on page 8 so far, and here are my initial thoughts, just from those pages:

Antihero leans somewhat scum
[/bTheFuzzy/Choof leans very slightly scum, even after looking past the "I'm a noob, I don't understand" claim
Gorkington reads town to me

Kitten/Droog I can't read. Either noob town, or bad mafia

Marquis r

eads town to me

Seohyun, with her one informative post up to that point, leans somewhat scum

Thor I have no idea how to read.

V

arsoon seems slightly town, but I can't tell because of the early wagon placed up

on him.

Working on getting caught up, will give more reads later.

Ok, on page 30, and my reads on everyone are:
Albert/Notscience- Not enough posts at this point, leaning slightly town from Notscience's first couple posts though

Antihero- I can't read him. I'm thinking town tho

Boonskiis- No posts.
Choof/TheFuzzy- No read.
Copper- He reads town, his analysis and playstyle this game feels town to me
Elusive- SCUM. Nearly all of his posts up to that point feel scummy to me.
Flubber- No read, feels like lurking via fluff, although a couple content posts
Gorkington- A strong town read for this one
House- His playstyle confuses me, but I'm leaning scum

Kitten/Droog- Got a noob town read from Kitten's posts

Marquis-

Not enough posts for me to be conclusive here

OkaPoka- Slight scum read
Pisskop- Slightly scummy, but not sure
Seohyun- So much lurk.

Thor665- I get a helpful town read on him

Varsoon- Ugh. I feel scum, but then his play after "Not actually hated, just wanted to survive. plz dont hurt me" reads town

ZZZX- Slight town read, from his few posts so far.

for now, VOTE: Elusive

bolded the interseting read changed
of note

thor was 'no idea how to read' but became 'helpful town'
marquis was 'reads town' but becoems 'not enough posts'
i was town / noob scum but the noob scum part is dropped.
all based on kitten's posts. nothin i did. what changed?
anti and varsoon change without reason

[droog]

a lot of mnem posts
are commentary
not really logic or cases just thoughts

nothing i can see scum or town intent in

[droog]

seeing that anti read from him the situation and recent posts make sense for md-scum who committed to an anti townread he doesn't know how to get out of but wants to get him mislynched now that it's a viable counterwagon, so he's not really defending him or bringing up that townread again

i could see this
this is also the first post of yours all game
that i think of as content

though i skimmed a large part of the middle game

[droog]

What is the ns case

[droog]

Pushed a lynch on town and is lurking

thanks
sounds like settling

[droog]

if were going to lynch inactives
can we go for boonskies

[droog]

if were going to lynch inactives
can we go for boonskies

If you had expressed this a week ago and worked on it - sure.
You missed the deadline.

its almost like a week ago
no one knew boonskies was inactive

[droog]

holy shit thats a cat in your avatar
i thought it was hair

[droog]

Vasoon- we got lucky night 1 with two scum killed. We did not lynch any scum and quick lynched our investigator role/

We are doing goood but not great.

[/b]
whats your point

[droog]

hey pisskop
vote fuzzy with me

[droog]

aw : (

VOTE: fuzzy

[droog]

Iadmit my push for better analysis on the FFF/ Sakura flip is kinda bad. I pretty much want the town to look toward the flips more than they are doing. I like that Ika and Copper are doing that, I admit that maybe I am not doing that well and need to change my strategy up a bit more.

baffling
why is a push for better analysis bad
im just really confused
not sure if thisis honesty here
or someone tyring to look good

[droog]

what exactly is the thro case
"thor is a pissant"?

[droog]

Like, people don't really care if someone's town or not

it's all about the content

all about what they put in the thread

if god forbid they dont do things

or god forbid they be apathetic

everyone loses their minds

These past few days and thor counterwagon are laughable, it's only prolonging the inevitable

good post
if you werent notscience id townread you
but since youre a leading wagon i have to ask

is this someone upset at being caught
or someone trying to justify himself
for being lynched
when town is shitty

[droog]

Sorry for shameless lurking
Will begin ketchup

[droog]

actually, one last thing because 2558 and 2559 are borderline retarded:

whether or not it's a valid case, i wouldn't suggest you're necessarily a scummy liar liar pants on fire for thinking there could be a point there

because, you know... i'm not a fucking moron

(but that's just me)

good night

Really didn't understant
The point this was trying I make

[droog]

If there is one scum team than I am obvtown.

However I dont think there is one team....

Vasoon...its possible you scum.... I think you killed Sakura however that still means you could be a sk ,second party scum or some third party. You could be lying about JK Thor. There is no evidence you did so and you all ready faked claimed twice. We have take everything you say with a grain of salt.

If there is one scum team than likely the Thor was a counter wagon to save Not. If there are Ww than the Thor wagon was likely town driven by people duped by Notty and the WW jumped on those wagon as either one would be good toward them.

Never liked self clearing
Doesn't sit right

[droog]

After mnem's wagon died off, he receded back into the shadows
so maybe he'll try and mount a defense again
VOTE: menm

other than that, droog, zzzx, boonskiies

Agree with this lost
Even me being on it
Playing a bad game

So Seiho has good instincts
Or ones I agree with
Good poster

[droog]

when did gork target boon

[droog]

cool makes sense to me (Y)

[droog]

Wasn't the extra kill
From jack of all trades

[droog]

I'm alive!!!!
Wow this is furthest I made it. Day 5 lol

Glad I was right about boon. Let's study if he was bussed or who tried pushin another wagon

what do you mean you were right

[droog]

rip looks bad in that exchange
not for 2718
2709 is lazy hunting faking busy hunting

klingon could actually be stronger in calling it out

[droog]

rip looks bad in that exchange
not for 2718
2709 is lazy hunting faking busy hunting

klingon could actually be stronger in calling it out

[droog]

why did we lynch thro again
i know he was a pissant
but

[droog]

eh i cant get mah
i havent some anything all game

[droog]

Piss you are like te only good player left. I need u to play and stop fucking around, don't lose sight now.
Varsson and gork are dead. Is me and u know
When u made ur case on boon I was right there with

u while others try to get us off.

Pedit: zzzx one of my scum reads

which others
name names

[droog]

I keep forgetting he's here

me too honestly
back again

[droog]

Huh????
What does that have anything to do with Droog being scum.

probably has to be
flubber thinks im scummy because im not active
like normal

probably a meta thing?
i think itws a towntell

[droog]

@fuzzylogic post#2797
Don't see what slip you're talkinng about?
I'll have to look back at how the votes on thor's wagon went again lol that wagon was lightning fast.
But I agree with you on rip's surprise at not being lynched. Though I generally just feel weird when people express shock at not being lynched unless they had claimed a PR or something

why does this sound scummy to me
like youre just amused that the thor wagon was too fast

[droog]

Piss what are ur thoughts? Did you read any of what I posted?
I'm starting to get really pissed and tilted at this Klingon girl. Wtf kinda game is this? She just keeps trolling me and calling me a troll and does nothing?
Nobody cares?

Thanks for the compliment, but I'm not really a girl. I'm a granny. For realz.

The scum-count slip was your third mistake.

Not bothering to learn anything about the other players in the game was your second mistake.

Your first mistake was coming on too strong, trying to be a Town Leader type. Unless one is

very

good, and you aren't yet, chitling, it's too easy to accidentally out oneself when front & center.

can someone condense these slips
into an easy account of what happened and why
with reasonsa bout why they make scum

so baasically a case

[droog]

what the fuck is that rant of rip's
that basicalyl takes up the back paie

[droog]

You're still town

[droog]

marquis is scum

[droog]

actually considering it's 21p with joat/hider/watcher i'm liking the traitor idea more and more

isnt traitor who lives after scum
non normal??

[droog]

just noticed thor was bp
which sounds more like sk to me

[droog]

not that it really makes a difference
someone isnt town thats enough to go on

[droog]

thats kind of why i think
flubber is town
hes been too wrong
((which is kind of in character
for him)
no offense bro))

[droog]

im here
kinda
keeep forgeting about thi

[droog]

I dont think droog is comming back and I dont perceive anyone changing thier votes. I going to have to consider hammering Klingon and hope that I am wrong.

aw >:

[droog]

what the fuck
you guys hammered again
while i wasnt around

[droog]

hey i said i'd iso in the morning but i didn't have time so whoops i lied
let's do it right now

oh god it's seohyun somebody hammer before she gets back

i feel like
its hiding somewhere in there two

[droog]

seoh's iso is useless
because i have to click on every post
to figure out what shs referring to

[droog]

major fos on marquis if/when
klingon flips town

for that whole rant in 3124
about townreads being spot on al game
and klingon is 'likely final lynch'

[droog]

seoh interrogating klingon
hm. townish?

[droog]

put me out of my misery.
I solved the game. This is too easy and I'm done playing. You guys can figure out what I did 2 days ago.

I try to draw Nk by being Obv town is same fuckin

so hey what happened to this

[droog]

poe means i would probably vote droog as the secondary proponent of questioning my obvtowniness

obvtownness?

[droog]

lemme get this straight

fuzzy might be traitor
flubber is so scummy you think hes not scummy
im scummy
seo is scummy

[droog]

The same question as I asksd Seo

marquis
everything h says all game
idk
it rads like positioning
lik everything is being framed
so e can get away looking good
for whatever it is

[droog]

ive been disliking marquis
for a while now

[droog]

but yes
end of game
is a convenient time to try to end the game

[droog]

you'd have to be actually insane if you honestly believe any of the shit i've done this game has been some masterful scum plan to look good or "position" myself in any way

lmao
considering how vague my attack was
how can you be so specific in your denial

[droog]

you'd have to be actually insane if you honestly believe any of the shit i've done this game has been some masterful scum plan to look good or "position" myself in any way

like
what am i being called insane for
thinking your scum?

this is a fancy way of calling me wrong
ok
prove it

[droog]

i said town or traitor, and it's probably the former

so
"fuzzy might be traitor"

[droog]

. still pretty sure flubber is town, him being wrong about every single scum just feels more like town than traitor or even sk!flub

-\\\

"him being wrong about every single scum"
so, flubber has a scummy record
which you think makes him not scummy
so
"flubber is so scummy you think hes not scummy"

[droog]

and maybe thats a reach
but hey im finding a patern here

[droog]

poe means i would probably vote droog as the secondary proponent of questioning my obvtowniness

but then there's seo an

so

"im scummy'

so

"seo's scummy"

[droog]

but hey

go on ignoring my question about
'obvtownness'
while you pretend im just only interested in lynching you

[droog]

but hey

go on ignoring my question about
'obvtownness'
while you pretend im just only interested in lynching you

lol

it's almost exactly like you're building, curating my lynch right now. like you could be the owner of an art gallery named "the blaming, gossiping and lynching of marquis" or whatever words more closely mean what we both know i mean

as for obvtownness with how many people were townreading me i was all set to be the obvious nightkill after pisskop until the newbie trio all started scumreading me FOR KNOWING HOW MAFIA WORKS and you just sat there and whispered about me being scum too. and for whatever reason i keep finding myself kind of hoping you're town just so i can blame you for ruining the chances of me getting nightkilled in good conscience

You're obvtown
Because some people town read you
While at the same time
Other people didn't

?????

[droog]

Marquis what's your point
About the "there"
And only one if them being alove

[droog]

it's only been a day and i already forgot this game existed

this is probably not good for toDay

Hey
Hey
Answer my questions

[droog]

Don't so this indifferent
Blog-style
"Here's what I'm feeling like today"
Posting

That's exactly what let's, say
Flubber
Get away with weak votes and indifferemce

[droog]

Answer my question
Why are you "obvtown"
Why is me suspecting you
Itself scummy

[droog]

Hell
Flubber is voting me
You've got me at l-1
Everyone else is willing to lynch me

So what do you have to lose
By explaining more
About why you're so obvtown

[droog]

"Wasn't considered mislynch able"
The whole pint of "mislynch" is you know you're town
If you knowing you're town
Is what makes you obvtown
Then your whole point is useless

[droog]

What would town me do
If I thought you were scum

Talk with everyone else instead?

[droog]

"Me being recognized as obvtown"

Please explain

[droog]

Most of your response to me there
Is you convincing me I'm scum
Which is you convincing everyone else

Which is not answering me at all

[droog]

Because I'm not super into this game
(Inb4 "y not sub out"))

But I am here trying to show
That marquis isn't really scumhunting
Is mostly just posturing
And is full of empty positions

And hell if that ain't me shovin shit down your throat

[droog]

If I found one flubbe
I would already be all over it

[droog]

Why have you been off most of the wagons most of the game. Looking at the vc it says you did not vote for anyone . Also you asked about boon being confirmed scum/ Gork hiding behind boon but seem to take no interest in that . You could of easily voted boon why didnt you?

i vae been inactive all game
if you really want to know i got very busy
and didnt really have the time for this

and nightphases were so frequent and long
that my activity was never too bad a problem

theres no satisfying in-game reason i can give you

[droog]

this fucking game oh my god

i'm going to stop myself here and try to go to sleep instead of letting droog get to me too so peace out gnight w/e /weee

why were you 'obvtown'
why do you say you were 'obvtown'

[droog]

am i just so good that i can make
the most obvtown players
look scummy after a few casual posts
: )

[droog]

@flubber

if you want your 'logical contradiction'

marquis is both thrying to suggest
that my case on him sucks
and also that
my case in hom is why hes not obvtown

[droog]

note: all without pointing at aynoe
and saying 'why are you believing him'

[droog]

not feelin a droog lynch right now,
something doesn't feel right
reading his iso


droog how do u feel about claiming

ai feel fine with it
gimme some consensus
(read: fuzzy do you also want claim)
and ill do it

[droog]

though honestly ill have to look up my role again
i thin im vanilla?

[droog]

the first time i ever rolled doctor
i wanted to nto do the whole
'totaly nnot doctor here guys mafia look somewhere else'

so i tried forgetting
it worked and i missed nightactions

gonna check y pm

[droog]

fair enough fuzzy
though i never got why claiming makes a difference
at l-1

yeah i just cehcked im vanilla

[droog]

also are all normal games flavorless
my role pm was raelyl boring

[droog]

Flames of Disaster, Town Watcher, lynched Day 1
Sakura Hana, Mafia Roleblocker, killed Night 1
Formerfish, Mafia 2-shot Tracker, killed Night 1
notscience, Mafia Goon, lynched Day 2
OkaPoka, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 2
mnemonicdevice, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 3
Gorkington, Town Hider, killed Night 3
Varsoon, Town Jack-of-All-Trades, killed Night 3
Boonskiies, Mafia Goon, lynched Day 4
SnowStorm, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 4
Thor665, Town Bulletproof Fruit Vendor, lynched Day 5
zMuffinMan, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 5
Antihero, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 6
pisskop, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 6
Klingoncelt, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 7

[droog]

i could see ninka in this

[droog]

I've been trying to see what path/vote trajectory an sk would have, cus sk wouldn't think the same way mafia would

the tricky thing
is sk would be actively hunting scum too

[droog]

I feel pretty good that I am going to hit scum or Sk with Flubber.His overall gameplay makes me fedl this way

can you elaborate?
i dont like fullbbers play
but i think hes definitely own

for one i think his
paranoia
wrt me
is actually pretty good

[droog]

VOTE: marquis[/c]

[droog]

VOTE: marquis

[droog]

to be fair fuzzy
nobodys really scumhunting
were all just sitting around talking

im gonan go through some lod posts soon
but flubber not still caring
looks lik town flubber still not caring

[droog]

What is the crap of these first pages
Someone is scummy for not doing anything about it

Sakura? Marquis?

if theres scum on this page
id put it in this order

marquis > antihero > gork > house

what are you doing
that you can watch the thread
and respond faster than the time it took me
to write that post

eh i could bitch more but youve got a fair point
i dont like marquise
zzzx is pinging a few bells
these two especially for being the sort of

seeing that anti read from him the situation and recent posts make sense for md-scum who committed to an anti townread he doesn't know how to get out of but wants to get him mislynched now that it's a viable counterwagon, so he's not really defending him or bringing up that townread again

i could see this
this is also the first post of yours all game
that i think of as content

though i skimmed a large part of the middle game

hah

[droog]

whatever marquis says
ive been suspecting her
even if not very well

all game

[droog]

droog is just being normal

[droog]

never lynch

Antihero (town meta. i have no idea why you guys are so hellbent on his lynch but there's such a noticeable difference between his town and scum meta and this one is the former)
copper223 (vvvvv, posts sound genuinely town motivated anyway)
Gorkington (claim)
droog (either he's town or he'll get killed if i'm wrong)
Marquis
Varsoon (sakura interactions + claim, if he's sk/otherscum he'll likely be vigged anyway)

[droog]

but then anti and i are the only other "experienced" players here barring droog alt

out of game for a moment
what does this mean
kinda curousf

[droog]

YOU'RE. NOT. FUCKING. READING.

3099 is pretty much the definition of mafia past day 5

wy did flubber
who was also in
'not willing to compromise on'
territory

become 'definiton of scum'

[droog]

actually thats a dumb question
because marquis really disliked 30999
disregard

[droog]

@flubber here is your contradiction

after putting me in a town list most of the game
marquis switches me to scum
for 'questioning her obvtownness'

when i have been scumhreading him
all game

[droog]

how did you have multiple ppedits
10 minutes after my post

[droog]

poe means i would probably vote droog as the secondary proponent of questioning my obvtowniness

let's not pretend i didn't know you've been murmuring about me being scum all game

this is a contradiction

"droog is currently qquesstiong my obvtownness so is scum"
"youve suspected me all game so is scum'

[droog]

i was originally even sort-of townreading u for that for some reason

add this is why youre scummy
the same thing that makes me town
"not going to compromise on" town
makes me scum

without any explanaiton except the
handwaving
"for some reason"

[droog]

but then anti and i are the only other "experienced" players here barring droog alt

out of game for a moment
what does this mean
kinda curousf

still kinda curiousf

[droog]

suddenly feeling that mafia itch
marquis
who is your second suspect

[droog]

fuzzy
what do you think of my case now

[droog]

im willing to lynch flubber
if there are no better choices
but i d rather get marquis

hes still dodging my questions
incuding logic like
"if flubber was scum hed be doing what hes doing
but hes doing it beter than i am"

[droog]

your not even rying to talk to anyone
your schtick all day has been
lynch droog lynch droog lynch droog

[droog]

when you admit
that you dont remember why you townread me
for scumreading you
and then scumread me
for scumreading you

as though my scumread
of your 'obvious townness'
((which you never explained as a thing))
was somehow new and the sole reason you werent killed

[droog]

answer one of those things
i dare you

[droog]

"im going to keep ignoring you"
you have nothing to add anymore

[droog]

if you ever did

[droog]

but then anti and i are the only other "experienced" players here barring droog alt

out of game for a moment
what does this mean
kinda curousf

still kinda curiousf

unless youre going to answer this

[droog]

reminder
marquis has me as town all game

droog is

just being norma

l

never lynch

...

droog (either he's town or he'll get killed if i'm wrong)

mething

i think you skipped most everything then but it's okay bc

you're in my titanic

should probably put you by or above next to droog. your questioning there right away had that subconscious town feel kind of. i think

i am absolutely not willing to compromise on flubber/droog/seo

or anything you guys might randomly bring up. and right now with her trying to push me through early i think the klingon lynch is a game-ending-thank-fucking-god lynch.

until here suddenly

f
poe means i would probably vote

droog as the secondary proponent of questioning my obvtowniness

when i was lamely suspecing
marquis
ALL GAME

[droog]

i dont know what
'scum!you'
would do

i dont really care
you were not interested in explaining
anything

until just now
when i quote your
nonsense

[droog]

first time ive heard
you explain
any points like that

is it worth my time responding
if youre going to throw a fit?

fuzzy, flubber, seoh, lemme know

pedit:

your not even building a case
youre just speculaing
that i happen to fit the crime

[droog]

Droog is scum readibg Marquis for not that great reasons....mainly bc of Marquis saying that Droog is scummy bc he hates droog challenging his obv town claim.

im scumreading marquis
because he says im town
then says im scum
when my opinion on him didnt really change
at much
all game

[droog]

fuzzy, why do you keep mentioning that marquis' reads are bad?
Looking at the track record of the remaining players, isn't it about the same? lol
it just kinda stuck out to me how this def isn't the first time you rail on marquis' reads, even tho his isn't that bad in comparison to the people alive still

sure droog answer him

and also not everyone claimed yet
unless i missed it in my read through just now

will do tonight

[droog]

huh
in all the games ive ever played with you
town is racing to call you scum

[droog]

hi fuzzy you should read the responses droog kept asking for despite me giving them earlier and is now ignoring once i made them even more explicit
and then maybe hammer the scum already

ignoring them?
the ones i responded to
or the ones i said id
respond to
tonight?

[droog]

i dont think were at lylo
ive offered to vote flubber
but yooure not convincing me
to switch from marqis

so im going to try taling to seo

[droog]

god

i'm pretty sure i explained at least like ten (or realistically at least five) times now

the "secondary proponent" refers to you coming back and loudly pressing the "marquis could be the actual scum!" angle at the end of last day ONLY AFTER the lynch had already been secured and ONLY after fuzzy/rip/klingon got together in their idiot circle

here are recent posts
where you explain your scumread on me

poe means i would probably vote droog as the secondary proponent of questioning my obvtowniness

"poe" "questioning my obvtownness"
"loudly pressing the 'marquis could be actual scum' argument at end of day"

oh wow

well

i said town or traitor, and it's probably the former
being wrong =/= scummy
not particularly before bc just PoE but now sure you can get a point for that
no, seo is... seo

VOTE: droog

yeah so instead of trying to word my posts in the scummiest way you can think of to gauge interest in my lynch maybe you could just vote me instead

'poe' 'word my posts in scummiest way'
"loudly pressing the 'marquis could be actual scum' argument at end of day"

and droog's end-of-day setting up my lynch today along with the rip kill makes sort of sense. more sense than the really paranoid sounding theories my mind keeps pushing into the light. like i literally just typed and deleted "or it could be seo knowing i'd be wary of scumreading her based on history and knowing i'd expect her not to want to lynch me for ??? reasons so she can take a backseat on it" and hit undo to paste it again just to show you how i'm kind of panicking over potentially taking some earlier townreads for granted.

and i also typed "flub is town because... lolgut" but then that's exactly what i'm worried about about my own reads right now

this is the first time
you explain that youre suspicious of me
for "seting up my lynch today"

__________________________________________-

your scumread has used several different reasonswhat you think is the best one
((so has mine on you))
picking
and then claiming that thats the only one
and the one youve explained the most

is wrong

[droog]

Votecount 7.1

TheFuzzylogic99 (0) -

Flubbernugget (0) -

RIP (1) -

Marquis

droog (1) -

Flubbernugget

Marquis (1) -

Klingoncelt

Seohyun (0) -

Klingoncelt (0) -

Not Voting -

TheFuzzylogic99, RIP, droog, Seohyun

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline in (expired on 2015-05-11 09:58:00) (May 11^th).

marquis is scum

me calling you scum
WELL BEFORE
yesterdays lynch was decided

[droog]

major fos on marquis if/when
klingon flips town

for that whole rant in 3124
about townreads being spot on al game
and klingon is 'likely final lynch'

the next time i call you scum
why is this suspicious

[droog]

and so there it is

you're harping on that because it's your only option

and i've just explained it to everyone in the clearest way i can for hopefully the last time
kind of curious as to how you'll twist it now but
i actually really don't want to argue with scum anymore sooo
bye bae

nope
i have listed several reasons to suspect you
the best one though
is you deciding im scum
for me thinking youre scum
when i thougth you were scum all game

[droog]

the same pice of information
had you townread me
and scumread me

you cant / wont explain the switch
you wont really admit it is a switch
because you keep saying it was something else
thats causing you to scumread me

[droog]

@seahyun:
above ismy distilled argument