New York 180 (Endgame)

Aeronaut · Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:11 pm

I'm here. Looking at what I missed

Aeronaut · Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:32 pm

In post 5370, dragonspawn wrote:Largely process of elimination

add to that protests of innocence early in the game.

Can you clarify what this means?

In post 5372, T S O wrote:
In post 5363, SilverWolf wrote:I really don't believe Aero is scum. What in the world happened to make people suddenly believe that? Please give me a case here people so I can look at it. I'm only around in this game due to deadline coming up so please spell it out in words I can understand.

Inconsistent arguments regarding me is an important one: "I think you're SK for no reason but I'd like you to shoot here" like he somehow thinks that SK-TSO would be leashed, when I know that he knows that would never happen.

Well, I've never played a game with SK-TSO before. How would I know what you would and wouldn't do? Also, if you're an SK, why would you shoot someone else and confirm yourself as scum? It's against your win condition.

In post 5377, Ozgin wrote:Why are people voting for Aeronaut? @Everyone

Why is Aeronauts fighting of his wagon, "Well even if I'm scum why does that make Marquis town?" Like, what the actual hell is that? @Aeronaut

I'm saying that TSO's reasoning to jump off of Marquis doesn't seem incredibly logical. His reasoning is that "Marquis wouldn't bus his buddy" which seems like a weak as fuck reason after spending two weeks of TSO bitching and moaning at us about how we should lynch Marquis because he's 100% scum. I'm also saying that TSO seems to be trying to rule out that there could be two factions still in the game.

In post 5396, Shinobi wrote:Aero still doesn't have a reason to be on my wagon afaik. I just mosey'd onto his scumlist out of the ether and it doesn't seem like he cares about my answers to anything.

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In post 5317, Aeronaut wrote:
I'm not going to be voting Marquis today. Best option today is Shinobi, who won't share his full reads with us, or really provide a lot of details of his thoughts outside of random one-lines which really don't hold a lot of weight with me. He keeps trying to milk that D1 "no track" read which doesn't conftown, and really can't be trusted much coming from ABR.

I'd like to vote Shinobi, but I have no idea what the VC is and I'd like to not accident-hammer. I believe he was L-2 last I checked.

Aeronaut · Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:34 pm

In post 5434, T S O wrote:Superficial reads, no town thought processes, pushing lynches on nothing.

Pushing a lynch on shinobi is nothing?

Aeronaut · Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:52 pm

In post 5440, T S O wrote:I also wonder what exactly your point here regarding my move from Marquis is - I genuinely don't understand the scum motivation behind it, unless I am so desperate to save my scumbuddy Shinobi, in which case I would still have the same amount of support, minus SilverWolf but plus Marquis, but now I have to go attack a new person and explain my motivation for doing so.

..... Or, you realized that nobody was going to commit to lynching Marquis today and you realized that you had to switch your positioning.

Aeronaut · Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:13 pm

In post 5445, T S O wrote:Actually, {TSO, dragonspawn, SilverWolf, Kitz} was 4 of the 6 required. It is quite possible Cheetory would have sided with me. Shinobi would also have done so. That's 6.

Kitz was not on that wagon, broham.

Shinobi said that he would not be voting Marquis.

So you really didn't have the support you needed there, tbh. That was easy enough to figure out, and then it was probably easy enough to switch once you had Marquis' support.

Aeronaut · Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:37 pm

So you were sure you you were going to have the votes to get that to go through?

Aeronaut · Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:47 pm

Because he's going to shoot me tonight, and I'd like what I say to be heard against him tomorrow.

Aeronaut · Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:57 pm

Why would Shinobi be nightkilled....

P-edit: Do you really want me to quote it again?

Aeronaut · Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:00 pm

Here's another one

I'm very weary of some of the Shinobi/TSO/Cheetory interactions with each other today. I really didn't like this post in which Shinobi accredits the interactions between Marquis, T S O, and himself as simple paranoia that stems out of "mutual respect" for each other. I feel is subtly implying that they're all town, and that people should look elsewhere. I also don't like his constant assertion that two people fighting in a game suddenly makes them town. Shinobi has been here long enough to know that that's not really the case, and it bothers me that he's trying to push that.

Aeronaut · Thu Apr 02, 2015 3:04 pm

In post 5188, Shinobi wrote:Ofc I'm using it as a shield. I tried talking rationally to people and it's not fucking working.

I can come up with reasons to think of GM as either alignment but none of them are good in terms of thinking of her as possibly being town.
Elusive isn't even bothering to explain why she's voting me.
Aeronaut is still reaching to try and lynch our claimed vigi while directing his shot.

These are my scumreads right now. I say I'm on the fence about GM but if you put a gun to my head, I'd say she was scum.

If you want to believe that all of ABR's checks are fake anyway, go ahead. I genuinely hope I get lynched with two likely scum roles that have extra visits with a tracker check on me.

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:13 am

The fuck?

Ok, I'm not home, but please wait until I respond to hammer, I guess

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:17 am

Like you should all be reading shinobi as obvscum at this point. There's no reason anybody else should even be an option.

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:23 am

I've posted my whole case like three times and I can't go back now because I'm on mobile

However, briefly it's because shinobi has been quiet and secretive for most of the game, is subtly trying to push that he's town in like ever post.

Literally look back like three posts in my ISO to get the full thing.

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:26 am

I can't vote for TSO today, and shinobi is the next best lynch. I don't see how that's so hard to get

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:29 am

Please give me until tonight

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:30 am

IM NOT VOTING HIM FOR THAT DOES NOBODY GET THAT

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:30 am

Let me get on computer when I get home

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:28 am

Yep. I was scum.

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:28 am

My scumgame sucks

sorry team

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:29 am

I really wanted to be town for you wolfy

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:50 am

Dear people who were voting me that are surprised I wasn't town

What the actual fuck

Why did you vote me if you think I'm town

That's silly

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:04 am

In post 5519, Ozgin wrote:Also, I'm only moderately sober.

Lol

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:16 am

In post 5522, Kitz wrote:
In post 5504, Aeronaut wrote:My scumgame sucks sorry team

So you're the Mafia.
Can you tell us one thing?

Is Piss, from your team?

... Can't say.

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:17 am

I will say that TSO really should be lynched tomorrow. Because there's not a vig in this game.

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:17 am

So how that I'm literally claiming scum still nobody believes me?

I really can't win

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:19 am

In post 5539, T S O wrote:goodmorning? You can prepare your apology.

Lol

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:27 am

In post 5548, T S O wrote:Aeronaut running away is, again, indicative of Aero-scum. He'd be here stoking up hell on his scum suspects if he had just flipped town.

I don't understand why your trying to make a case on me post-lynch.

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:30 am

In post 5553, T S O wrote:Well, I see no reason why I'm not dying tonight, because it -is- optimal scum play to do so, much as I hate to admit it.

I'd better get in all my gloating while I can

Eh, this makes me think he's bulletproof

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:31 am

Oh nah TSO no hard feelings. I've been outplayed.

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:35 am

I'd say shoot him anyway.

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:36 am

Up to you, really. I don't really think he'd be saying things like that if he was bulletproof.

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:37 am

I'm not going to elaborate because I said too much.

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:38 am

You people didn't believe me today and instead decided to take a swig of grape-flavored TSO-Koolaide. That's your loss.

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:47 am

I'm being pretty blatantly obvious because I really don't want TSO to win yet another scum game

Well, I do. I like TSO. But I'd rather my team win this one than him.

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:18 am

.... I'm gonna miss you guys.

Aeronaut · Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:27 am

Yea scumteam shoot silver, that post made me puke

Aeronaut · Thu May 14, 2015 2:50 pm

WE DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Aeronaut · Thu May 14, 2015 2:50 pm

I WON A LARGE

Aeronaut · Thu May 14, 2015 2:50 pm

CHEETORY AND GREEN CRAYONS WON A LARGE FOR ME*

Aeronaut · Thu May 14, 2015 2:50 pm

YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES

Aeronaut · Thu May 14, 2015 2:51 pm

Ok sorry about that I'm finished.

Great game team. You were all great

Also very impressed that the town really managed to come back and almost win it after the atrocity that was day 1-3

Aeronaut · Thu May 14, 2015 3:03 pm

Yea, honestly Pisskop told us to do some really smart things, and we didn't do most of them :/

Aeronaut · Thu May 14, 2015 3:05 pm

This game lasted 4 months

Aeronaut · Sun May 17, 2015 5:23 pm

In post 6860, Ozgin wrote:I want the scum PT to be released.

Also, when we killed the doctor, it was my idea and it was 100% arbitrary. There was no crumb pickup, no read, just a stab.

In post 6861, SilverWolf wrote:I want to see it too because I was scum and I deserve to see what my buddies talked about damn it. I can't believe you shot me Ozgin after telling me how lost you'd be without me if I got shot. LOL

OMG yea that was so freaking hilarious. We just picked boon for the hell of it, and he turned out to be the doctor.

And then everyone was like "Oh we must have experienced scum because they say this post that says Boon was hinting doctor Oh yes yes mhm"

Aeronaut · Sun May 17, 2015 5:24 pm

And I'm also fine with it being released. It's a good read, really

Aeronaut · Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:00 am

Lots of planning going on there despite all the craziness going on in-game.

Awesome time being scum with you guys~