Her.In post 2476, Axl_Rose wrote:hebichan replaces ilikebugs. Please welcome him. Deadline is two weeks from this post. It will be accurate in the next VC.
Also gonna read up and see whats up with this game.
Her.In post 2476, Axl_Rose wrote:hebichan replaces ilikebugs. Please welcome him. Deadline is two weeks from this post. It will be accurate in the next VC.
I think both KTS and Kuroi are town after reading their ISOs, they both have honest reads on the game and they seem pretty have been fairly active. I think it's kinda silly they're voting on eachother here, frankly.In post 753, DrippingGoofball wrote:Which is a...?In post 752, Ilikebugs wrote:he hasn't talked much about the game.
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I would honestly, I feel like he's whiteknighting Kuroi and it bothers me in his ISO. His snap vote on you seems a bit off too.
Honestly both of them seem less town than both of you, so its kind of a toss up for me.In post 2495, KuroiXHF wrote:See, I would have compromised on DrippingGoofball.
Go ISO DGB and tell me how much substance he's posted all game. Please do, now go back and ISO KTS. There is a significant difference in post quality.In post 2503, Firebringer wrote:So wait, you read Kuroi as town, but then say I am White Knighting him.... I guess that checks out?In post 2488, hebichan wrote:I think both KTS and Kuroi are town after reading their ISOs, they both have honest reads on the game and they seem pretty have been fairly active. I think it's kinda silly they're voting on eachother here, frankly.In post 753, DrippingGoofball wrote:Which is a...?In post 752, Ilikebugs wrote:he hasn't talked much about the game.
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DBG on the other hand has been posting barely any content. I'm not gonna be posting a long quote take thing mostp laers do, because that isn't my style. But so far, My reads can be summarized as such.
Town: KTS, Kuroi, Egg
Scum: DGB
That's about what I have that I want to share right now. I want to hear from the other replacement too.
Why the hell are you reading KTS as town and DGB as scum? That doesn't make any lick of sense.
Egg I can probably agree on.
BTW, White Knighting is literally the stupidest term in mafia, pls avoid it in the future, it makes my blood boil.
Considering I'm voting on you, I obviously don't believe you have a town role pm in the first place. WHaqt I mean by quality is that he barely gives any reasoning on his lynches, why don't you grill him this hard, all his reasons are at least as vague as mine.In post 2505, Firebringer wrote:Explain what you mean by post quality, because my post quality is shit, yet I have a town role pm.In post 2504, hebichan wrote:Go ISO DGB and tell me how much substance he's posted all game. Please do, now go back and ISO KTS. There is a significant difference in post quality.
I don't see how you read DGB on "post quality" its very vague.
What do you mean by tone? Thats just as vague as what I said.In post 2507, Firebringer wrote:Okay? I never said you thought I had a town role pm.In post 2506, hebichan wrote:Considering I'm voting on you, I obviously don't believe you have a town role pm in the first place. WHaqt I mean by quality is that he barely gives any reasoning on his lynches, why don't you grill him this hard, all his reasons are at least as vague as mine.In post 2505, Firebringer wrote:Explain what you mean by post quality, because my post quality is shit, yet I have a town role pm.In post 2504, hebichan wrote:Go ISO DGB and tell me how much substance he's posted all game. Please do, now go back and ISO KTS. There is a significant difference in post quality.
I don't see how you read DGB on "post quality" its very vague.
I am not going to grill KTS cause I have played enough games with him to know he wont explain his thoughts, and you seemed much more likelier too.
I read their posts, and no explanations doesn't mean scum. KTS tone is more off to me than DGBs.
I don't have enough games to have any sense of these things, so for now I like my vote where it is.In post 2509, Firebringer wrote:His tone isn't same as his other games I have played with him.In post 2508, hebichan wrote:What do you mean by tone? Thats just as vague as what I said.
Its vague because I can't completely explain it, and its mostly gut.
Because you're questioning me like you think it is?In post 2511, Firebringer wrote:I don't think I ever said your vote was bad either.In post 2510, hebichan wrote:I don't have enough games to have any sense of these things, so for now I like my vote where it is.In post 2509, Firebringer wrote:His tone isn't same as his other games I have played with him.In post 2508, hebichan wrote:What do you mean by tone? Thats just as vague as what I said.
Its vague because I can't completely explain it, and its mostly gut.
Why do you assume so much?
I'm reading DGB the same as you, and you admit your read on KTS is meta, so I'm not sure where this conversation is supposed to lead.In post 2513, Firebringer wrote:I was questioning your other reads. Not your read on me.In post 2512, hebichan wrote:Because you're questioning me like you think it is?
Snivy, pokemon from generation five. It's a snake pokemon, hebi is snake in japanese. It was my highschool nickname.In post 2515, Firebringer wrote:To a better tomorrow for all town kind.In post 2514, hebichan wrote:I'm reading DGB the same as you, and you admit your read on KTS is meta, so I'm not sure where this conversation is supposed to lead.In post 2513, Firebringer wrote:I was questioning your other reads. Not your read on me.In post 2512, hebichan wrote:Because you're questioning me like you think it is?
Off topic: What is your avatar of?
I'm new to forum mafia, I've played social deception games in real life. But, I've only played like 4 games of forum mafia.In post 2524, Performer wrote:hebi's posting upon replace-in in d4, is a little odd to me. She claims to be new(er) to FM, yet she clearly ignored my accusation against her - the ignoring part makes me think she's got more experience than she lets on. Maybe I'm overthinking this.
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My lynch list for today:
KAAG
Drip
KTS
and recently added Kuroi. First he had me as the only null, later he voted me on d4, listed me as his only scumread, later voted somebody else, posted another reads list that still has me as a scumread. His only reasoning was a scummy "you look like you're trying too hard as town." Lol. This from someone who was in a game with me already, as well as RC, Ranger, Heat, BROseidon
I'd like us to put anyone on this list to L-1, please quit dragging the day out .
VOTE: Kuroi
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@SS thanks for notifying me, I'll get on that signature issue right now! I didn't think it would possibly violate anything but I see what you mean
Overanalyzing every little thing just seems to be his gig and he is doing it this game.In post 2523, Slandaar wrote:I wasn't going to respond to this but I changed my mind.In post 2488, hebichan wrote:I think bothKTS and Kuroiare town after reading their ISOs, they both have honest reads on the game and they seem pretty have been fairly active. I think it's kinda silly they're voting on eachother here, frankly.
DBGon the other hand has been posting barely any content. I'm not gonna be posting a long quote take thing mostp laers do, because that isn't my style. But so far, My reads can be summarized as such.
Town: KTS, Kuroi,Egg
Scum: DGB
How did Egg end up in your town reads?
That's my question o.o It was pretty sudden.In post 2533, Firebringer wrote:I like this post.In post 2526, DrippingGoofball wrote:I was going to say I'm generally a shitposter but I iso'd myself and I was very impressed by the quality of my posting in this game, definitely above average, A for effort.
If that gets me lynched I'm going to have to adjust to more shitposting.
Aside: WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS KUROI WAGON COMING FROM!
I can see it, but before that Kuroi seems to be pretty pristine. I think I'll wait a bit and see Kuroi's reactions before jumping on this particular wagon at the moment. I still like Firebringer more for it, especially the back an forth where he came out and admitted my vote on him wasn't a bad choice.In post 2550, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:I'm compromising because there seems to be no traction on Aristo. But Kuroi on D4 has been awful, especially his early push on Performer.In post 2534, hebichan wrote:That's my question o.o It was pretty sudden.In post 2533, Firebringer wrote:I like this post.In post 2526, DrippingGoofball wrote:I was going to say I'm generally a shitposter but I iso'd myself and I was very impressed by the quality of my posting in this game, definitely above average, A for effort.
If that gets me lynched I'm going to have to adjust to more shitposting.
Aside: WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS KUROI WAGON COMING FROM!
If you like KAAG's reads, let's form a wagon on FB. My intent is to stay there for now.In post 2557, Something_Smart wrote:I like KAAG's reads. (Though I have been liking Ari for scum less and less.)
I would be in favor of somebody stating intent. I feel like people are just repeating what they've already said, and I want to see Kuroi's claim.
Okay, I'm willing to go on a Kuroi vote, if kuroi townflips we lynch KTS, if he scum flips we lynch Firebringer, seems like a reasonable compromise, considering KTS was saying lynching Kuroi would validate him.In post 2560, Something_Smart wrote:Not today. Four isn't enough for a wagon, and it's been hard enough to gain votes on Kuroi. But I would lynch Fire tomorrow, especially if Kuroi flips scum because of the way he defended him.
Do you still think KTS and Kuroi are both town? Because I would heavily disagree with that.
I didn't think it was hammer when I did it. In fact it wasn't, go back and read the mistake on the mod's behalf.In post 2633, Firebringer wrote:You hammered your town read.In post 2632, hebichan wrote:Something Smart asked me if I thought both kuroi and KTS could both be town yesterday. With Kuroi flipping town, what is your opinion on that now SS?
I came in here and my first statement was I though kuroi and KTS were both town. Which seemed to be an unpopular opinion at the time.
Why?
I was drawing attention to it because you were the one who convinced me to switch in the first place.In post 2641, Something_Smart wrote:Given that Kuroi/KTS was TvT, I don't love how you came in and immediately called it as such but by the end of the day you were ready to lynch Kuroi and lynch KTS if he flipped town. You never gave much reasoning to that switch and now you're once again emphasizing that you called that initially.In post 2632, hebichan wrote:Something Smart asked me if I thought both kuroi and KTS could both be town yesterday. With Kuroi flipping town, what is your opinion on that now SS?
I came in here and my first statement was I though kuroi and KTS were both town. Which seemed to be an unpopular opinion at the time.
I really liked your predecessor though
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I'm more worried by us mislynching yet another day tbh.In post 2655, DrippingGoofball wrote:Your buddy is worried thoughIn post 2654, hebichan wrote:It's not so much a wagon as it is one person voting on me, as it happens.
I've played like two games before this one. One was a newbie game I replaced out of.In post 2659, Performer wrote:What are your reads on us and why?In post 2657, hebichan wrote:I'm more worried by us mislynching yet another day tbh.In post 2655, DrippingGoofball wrote:Your buddy is worried thoughIn post 2654, hebichan wrote:It's not so much a wagon as it is one person voting on me, as it happens.
Do you ANY FM experience or are you brand new? Seriously.
oh oops sorry, the avatar throws me off.In post 2669, RachMarie wrote:Umm DGB is a she
you tunneled hard on kuroi, but the first thing you did when day started was attack me for hammering (which I had counted and wasn't supposed to have happened) on your tunnel read. You refused to switch off kuroi when we had another wagon starting on the basis you didn't think we had enough to lynch firebringer. Even though you said multiple times here fire was probscum.In post 2414, Something_Smart wrote:Hello everyone, I'm back. I see the thread exploded in my absence.
I still want Kuroi's head as his posts still show a scum mindset and scum logic. Also, I noticed a surprising similarity between 2401 and 1806, I wonder if that means anything...
KAAG is making me annoyingly paranoid in these pages with his awkwardness but I'm thinking it's just natural awkwardness as opposed to scum awkwardness (like Fragger had).
I've been hesitant to vote Yume for a few reasons: one, jam's ISO is pretty good and feels like newbtown (on the other hand, I have been burned by what I thought was newbtown at least once) and two, I think I know why Yume lurked out and it's not because she was scum (though I don't think it's right to go into it more). At this point I would like Kuroi and/or Fire dead. If Kuroi flips scum I will have serious problems with the way Fire defended him as well.
In post 2683, Something_Smart wrote:That's not an accurate representation of what happened. You asked me my thoughts on Kuroi/KTS, and I said I didn't like how you started off saying it was TvT and ended up convinced that it was TvS.
I don't like that you would not switch to fire. I don't, I didn't like it yesterday either, but I conceded to you. We had the votes if you and KAAG pushed harder. It's more the fact you were not even willing to consider another wagon that had four people on it. I get you may be stubborn but still. It wasn't specifically you per say, I don't like that it didn't seem like any wagon had any particular traction. If you aren't scum, and I am not scum, the majority of the people who started the wagon in the first place were certainly scum and we should be looking at them at the very least.In post 2685, Something_Smart wrote:No, I was talking about today. Pressuring you about the hammer wasn't the "first thing I did when day started" and it wasn't unprompted like you made it seem.
I feel like you're making two separate arguments here and you're confusing them together. There's my actions yesterday (my push on Kuroi, my unwillingness to switch to Fire) which you still haven't explained what you dislike about (I hope the argument's not just I was wrong and you were right), and then there's my actions today, telling you what I didn't like about you yesterday, as a response to your question directed specifically at me, which is a misrepresentation, as I explained.
I'll say the same thing I said yesterday. Vote Fire with me.In post 2687, Something_Smart wrote:I'm trying to sort you because I've engaged a lot with you recently and your slot is relatively low-content.
I'm still sorting through my reads and it's frustrating because I want to townread half the players and the other half I'm getting conflicting signals on. You, Fire and Slandaar are the ones I want to call scum but am having trouble doing so.
(Also KTS is conftown, but if you want to talk about anyone else then I will. I haven't been inclined to share my thoughts because they're so inconclusive but I can focus on specific people if you want.)
What will happen is scum will jump on the wagon and you'll flip more town from a scumread you admit you don't understand. How does this make any logical sense?In post 2696, Performer wrote:K. My read on Rach has changed because of 2693. Her 2695 further supports my growing suspicion.
Still don't see where the scumread by Drip on hebi, came from. But I feel like Drip could be onto something though, so I'll do this and see what happens. VOTE: hebichan
Still waiting on the 2 replacements.
This is a fair point, though. The interaction with me against fire also was a bit odd. Both him and SS seemed to have the same reaction. Honestly KAAG and SS scumming together makes a bunch of sense here.In post 2707, Performer wrote:@Fire Starting from Slandaar's 2697 into the next page with my case. Along with my posts from pgs 104-105 and , 1688 dead-man post and other posts about how ira scumread Frag & KAAG.
KAAG made a poor case against Drixx, Drixx voted KAAG because of it, and KAAG called it a "lame OMGUS" on d4.
Man, i like you a lot more than KAAG at this point. You're pretty much saying everything I was yesterday.In post 2724, Nero Cain wrote:TBF, I don't like Fire at all. He's super fluffy. At the same time he's made a big song and dance (in the past) about his personal meta being effort=scum useless=town. Does he switch it up here to throw off his meta and avoid a trust tell? Maybe. This is p much why my RVS/policy lynch vote is going to sit on him until I want to kill something more.In post 2721, RachMarie wrote:I am not liking fires recent vote
So why are you not voting that?In post 2718, Firebringer wrote:Again, you being town completely blows my mind.In post 2711, Killthestory wrote:I feel like I'm the last town left alive
Even if I was in another slot (and thus did not know I was town) I'd consider this pretty reachy and makes me a little uneasy about you.In post 2703, Performer wrote:I'll elaborate: Drip, KAAG's post saying you were town based on your scum list you posted, is weird logic. It makes me uneasy, thinking he's protecting a possible scum buddy.
That or he's setting you up for some future mislynch.
Like its pretty common for players town read/scum read others based on their reads
In post 2747, Firebringer wrote:There's so many slots I want to see dead, why wasn't I given a gun?
I like Performer's idea and wanted to start off the claims. A sign of good will, and putting my money where my mouth is etc.In post 2765, Something_Smart wrote:What made you decide to claim so soon?
Also, to clarify if it wasn't obvious: I believe Performer to be town.
Me or nero? Cause I read a decent amount, but not all of it. I isod most of the more active players at the time.In post 2768, Something_Smart wrote:Performer's idea was for Nero to start off.
How much of the game did you read upon replacing in?
I did, I found myself not agreeing with him a lot.In post 2771, Something_Smart wrote:Did you ISO your predecessor?
My fire read has little to do with me agreeing this game is kinda feeling a bit pointless at the moment.In post 2809, Something_Smart wrote:@hebi: why does you getting the sentiment make a difference? Is Fire still a scumread?
@DGB: why?
Serious answer- not much.In post 2823, Performer wrote:Well. I think we were all so generally frustrated , and that slot replaced in and immediately went to Lurkville.In post 2820, hebichan wrote:I'm going with my previous statement of my strongest scum reads being on SS and fire.
Also why did the tracker not claim.
This was a huge learning moment for me , so I would have to be more careful going forward in other games.
Hebi I don't like how you hammered so quickly though...serious question - how much experience do you have in FM?
I also thought Drip would turn out Vengeful Town based on the way her predecessor and her voted, as well as her disturbing brief posts.
At thie point, I'll try anything.In post 2826, Performer wrote:Man. Over 25 games hosted and /or played, and this flip was one of the most surprising that I've seen. Mixed with pk dying as our JOAT on night 1, we've had some very bad luck.
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I am demanding mass claim this phase - no need for popcorn version this time. Everyone claim, and I want that to happen within the next 24 hours please. Hebi and KTS , no need to as you guys already did.
Considering our situation , I have an idea of what to do if everyone answers to the mass claim as well as a suggestion if everyone doesn't answer to mass claim.
Regardless, this is a very tricky situation and I need remaining town to have faith in me. I can't disclose all cards for fear that scum will take advantage of the extra knowledge, but I need town to have faith in me.
As I said multiple times throughout, I don't like ILikeBugs reads in this game.In post 2851, Killthestory wrote:Performer, also one of my top townreads. Interesting, right?
So where's your mention of GuyFawkes or Rach? Your predecessor mentioned them once as a townread for no real explicit reason. Weird.
Your right, I haven't despite pushing the same fucking wagon for two days with no one listening to me. I want to lynch fire, I have since I replaced in. No one wagons with me, I see a wagon form by more experience players, rinse, repeat.In post 2854, Killthestory wrote:YET YOU WERE WILLING TO LYNCH BOTH, WERE YOU NOT???In post 2632, hebichan wrote:Something Smart asked me if I thought both kuroi and KTS could both be town yesterday. With Kuroi flipping town, what is your opinion on that now SS?
I came in here and my first statement was I though kuroi and KTS were both town. Which seemed to be an unpopular opinion at the time.
KAAG and Hebi are also not the same alignment, so whoever replaced them is town since Hebi is scum. SS is confirmed town at this point in my eyes as they've been the towniest player so far, disregarding Performer.In post 2709, hebichan wrote:This is a fair point, though. The interaction with me against fire also was a bit odd. Both him and SS seemed to have the same reaction. Honestly KAAG and SS scumming together makes a bunch of sense here.In post 2707, Performer wrote:@Fire Starting from Slandaar's 2697 into the next page with my case. Along with my posts from pgs 104-105 and , 1688 dead-man post and other posts about how ira scumread Frag & KAAG.
KAAG made a poor case against Drixx, Drixx voted KAAG because of it, and KAAG called it a "lame OMGUS" on d4.
VOTE: KAAG
All town, I'm presuming?In post 2779, hebichan wrote:top three town
kts, performer, slandaar
top three scum
SS, Firebringer, KAAG slot
THIS IS A MISLYNCHIn post 2804, hebichan wrote:VOTE: dominator
normally I would jump on fire for that, but I get the sentiment.
So the Hebi slot has actually not voted any scum this game at all. Weird, right? Yeah, yeah...
In post 2860, Killthestory wrote:Yet each time you pushed your wagon, you inexplicably end up on a wagon that turns into a mislynch. Coincidence man? Also, hell, how the fuck do you know Fire is such scum, yet you haven't actually pushed the slot that hard. "Hey man, it's not like KTS didn't Kuroi," Easiest defense for pushing that mislynch, right?
I don't know how you fucking can't do it cause its been obvious for me since I joined who the fuck was town. I have no idea what even constitutes a coincidence here.In post 2863, Killthestory wrote:Yeah, cool, play your AtE "I'm done with this game waaaaaaaa." Do I have to go get that image again? That defense is so old for scum and town. I wish people would just actually contribute instead of rolling over and saying, "Let me die!!1." Come on now, don't do that as any alignment pham.
Anyway, if your reads are so good, why don't you push them? Also, why are all of your reads that have been correct only been correct townreads? Isn't that too much of a koinkidink for town to be able to easily read all the town players, but they can't read scum? How is that not the scummiest thing you've ever heard?
You haven't pushed it hard enough l m a o. "Hey man, I'm willing to go on this wagon but I want Fire dead!" is you this entire game.
I'm also not saying let me die, I'm saying if I get close to lynched, I will lynch myself.In post 2863, Killthestory wrote:Yeah, cool, play your AtE "I'm done with this game waaaaaaaa." Do I have to go get that image again? That defense is so old for scum and town. I wish people would just actually contribute instead of rolling over and saying, "Let me die!!1." Come on now, don't do that as any alignment pham.
Anyway, if your reads are so good, why don't you push them? Also, why are all of your reads that have been correct only been correct townreads? Isn't that too much of a koinkidink for town to be able to easily read all the town players, but they can't read scum? How is that not the scummiest thing you've ever heard?
You haven't pushed it hard enough l m a o. "Hey man, I'm willing to go on this wagon but I want Fire dead!" is you this entire game.
Yeah, yeah. Whatever, There's nothing I can say here to convince anyone of anything, I misplayed early on. If people want to lynch me, they are going to.In post 2867, Killthestory wrote:lol, you don't realize that scum coming into the game know who town is and they're clearly obvious town? That's basically your attitude right now.In post 2864, hebichan wrote:I don't know how you fucking can't do it cause its been obvious for me since I joined who the fuck was town. I have no idea what even constitutes a coincidence here.In post 2863, Killthestory wrote:Yeah, cool, play your AtE "I'm done with this game waaaaaaaa." Do I have to go get that image again? That defense is so old for scum and town. I wish people would just actually contribute instead of rolling over and saying, "Let me die!!1." Come on now, don't do that as any alignment pham.
Anyway, if your reads are so good, why don't you push them? Also, why are all of your reads that have been correct only been correct townreads? Isn't that too much of a koinkidink for town to be able to easily read all the town players, but they can't read scum? How is that not the scummiest thing you've ever heard?
You haven't pushed it hard enough l m a o. "Hey man, I'm willing to go on this wagon but I want Fire dead!" is you this entire game.
I'm fucking new to the site, I thought my reads were bad, I don't know what the right way to push is. It might be scummy, IT MIGHT BE, but fucking give me a break, cause I am not scum, and all I am willing to take right now is a Firebringer lynch.
You didn't push because you thought you were bad? You realize that's worse than actively pushing your reads, right?
Same thingIn post 2865, hebichan wrote:I'm also not saying let me die, I'm saying if I get close to lynched, I will lynch myself.In post 2863, Killthestory wrote:Yeah, cool, play your AtE "I'm done with this game waaaaaaaa." Do I have to go get that image again? That defense is so old for scum and town. I wish people would just actually contribute instead of rolling over and saying, "Let me die!!1." Come on now, don't do that as any alignment pham.
Anyway, if your reads are so good, why don't you push them? Also, why are all of your reads that have been correct only been correct townreads? Isn't that too much of a koinkidink for town to be able to easily read all the town players, but they can't read scum? How is that not the scummiest thing you've ever heard?
You haven't pushed it hard enough l m a o. "Hey man, I'm willing to go on this wagon but I want Fire dead!" is you this entire game.
I don't really have anything left.In post 2870, Killthestory wrote:hebi is doing more of that AtE shit and rolling over and dying and screaming their reads are correct and shit.
guyfawkes slot was p town, time to ISO rach
Why me? I'm still voting fire. Cause he's scum.In post 2976, Nero Cain wrote:oh and Hebi too.