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Prolly cause of that shitty tieIn post 47, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote: the reasoning behind
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Oyashiro-sama will bless you for your diligenceIn post 69, Alisae wrote:
If Hanyu likes it I guess I'm forced to like it as well becauseIn post 68, Zachstralkita wrote:
Prolly cause of that shitty tieIn post 47, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote: the reasoning behind
...ok I kinda like it
OMGAWD ITS HANYU! OMGAWD IT'S SO CUTE, I JUST WANNA TAKE IT HOME!-
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In post 125, Alisae wrote:
You think scum is pushing Debi for lynch bait?In post 123, Zachstralkita wrote:I have a problem with both Debi's logic and people voting Debi for such logic.
On these type of wagons you will have potential scum and just town who actually believes that is a valid reason to lynch someone
I'm familiar with a few but not a lot of who's in this game.-
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In post 165, Debi wrote:All that I've noticed is he prefers memes and gifs to actual arguments,
A man after my own heart-
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Oh trust me, I know you don't think that.In post 606, Pine wrote:I don't think Alisae is Town lynch bait. I think she's genuinely scum who's fucking up due to inexperience. Not all easy lynches are bad. Stop trying to make "easy=Town" a Truism, it just isn't.
I'm not making it a truism. It's just blatantly true here.
And the equation is not easy=Town for me.
It is Alisae in this game=Town
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Tell me more about my questions.In post 604, Zachstralkita wrote:~I get the feeling Grey asks some of his questions just to ask them...
You probed the shit out of Alisae and up to this point I'm not sure what you did with that information. Your vote remains there. That's not to say that whatever answer he gave you should have changed your vote, it's to say that you should have considered something based on new info you received if your questions were genuine. I don't think you considered. I seriously think you went "THOSE WERE THE SCUM RESPONSES I WAS LOOKING FOR!"
That's exactly what I got out of that. But I cannot tell how decisive it actually is because that's all I have for you. So I have not made a determination yet.
People always vote lynchbait then blame them the day after for being lynchbait like how about you blame yourself for picking a shitty fucking lynch since you're so great...Ircher wrote:Why scum? Why not lynchbait?
And maybe Alisae is scum, but you cannot tell whether or not a lynchbait is scum within 36 hours of a game starting. Lynchbait players are generally bad D1 lynches cuz most of the time, they end up as misunderstood town who played in a way that people associate w/ scum.-
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It was a general statement I was quoting you bc I agreed with uIrcher wrote:
I still don't understand the last sentence though. Could you please rephrase so it is clearer? (Particularly the part starting with "yourself..."In post 614, Zachstralkita wrote:I wasnt going at you lol
Yourself referring to town who die hard votes lynchbait then takes no responsibility for that lynch
Really weird way to respond to my post BRO, my point was your actions indicated that mindset to me and you're getting all DEFENSIVE and stuff pal are there any drugs in the vehicle? Do you consent to a search? Am I being detained?-Grey- wrote:
If that's what "I went", quote where I said that.In post 612, Zachstralkita wrote:You probed the shit out of Alisae and up to this point I'm not sure what you did with that information. Your vote remains there. That's not to say that whatever answer he gave you should have changed your vote, it's to say that you should have considered something based on new info you received if your questions were genuine. I don't think you considered. I seriously think you went "THOSE WERE THE SCUM RESPONSES I WAS LOOKING FOR!"
Alisae is in no danger of being lynched. I'll move my vote when I see fit.
How about I go get the k9s
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I'd prefer to lynch rb before Pine
In post 623, Creature wrote:tbh I doubt mhsmith0 would even make his game multiball, I still think that multiball discussion is useless.In post 624, Creature wrote:I think it's just 14v4v1
Why are you making needlessly hasty assumptions like this based off of what you think? The truth is we really have no idea as to what the setup is is and guesses steer us more in the wrong direction than questions do. Nothing wrong with entertaining the thought of discussion
I dont think this is a sensibl e statement. You are confirmation biasing and you are also saying youve known it was scum since the beginning of eternity which implies you haven't attetmpted to make progression. You've had a fixed read and approach new information a fixed way. It blatantly shows in your portrayal of the scum!Pine case, which crystal clear looks like you just assumed Alisae's case was invalid from the start.In post 642, Human Sequencer wrote:Alisae is literally claiming lynchbait and using it as a bargaining chip.
Does that recontextualize any of her earlier posts as 'blatantly bad scum' to anybody else, instead of 'dodgy new town'?
It doesn't to me, because I've known it was blatantly bad scum since the beginning of eternity.
If I'm wrong u fill in the blanks for me then.
Your approaches to other people have been good as in I can see you're trying to deliberate motives, which is why I don't think you're scum but thinking like that is really bad for town because your perspective is enabling the validation of this mindless lynch.-
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Dude rb is so scum.
I captured the essence of it in my spoiler post. Along with Pine, No effort has been made to find scum. Attempting to portray the Alisae lynch as blatant obvious scum with a facade of false confidence that normally comes from town, but cannot be replicated genuinely as scum.
Cue others riding your lynch train. Cue arguments from both sides as well as you. It's like a smoke screen is up too much static and noise for it to be made tangible. But I feel it is there.-
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I'd like to know if he has any thoughts
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You didn't reply to what I said about your previous post thoIn post 782, Debi wrote:First of all, I'd like to apologize for my lack of inputs in the latest 18 or so pages, I've had some net issues with reloading new posts, and similar problems.
Anwyays, if its alright, can you explain why you all think Zachstalkita is town? To be honest, I'm getting more of a scum vibe from him, compared to town at least. Also can you explain why you think Human Sequencer is Scum, I'm getting a TR of him.-
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Alisae wrote:
I want to lynch Pine too, don't get me wrong, but why are you against a pressure wagon?In post 821, Zachstralkita wrote:I didn't intend to promote a wagon, he has a cat in his avatar and we should spare him for now
we have rbs and Pines to lynch
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I think it was nice how he made a neat polite introduction and said how excited he was to be playing with us!In post 839, Ircher wrote:
Totally usless post. LAMIST was a good way to describe it actually.In post 730, drealmerz7 wrote:Hey, all! I'm excited and glad to be here (mhsmith game, #200 w/19players, many of which I'm glad to be playing with - fuckyes!)
I'm not lurking, I simply haven't read but a few pages yet, decided to make a post. I'm only going to read this game when I have over an hour to dedicate soley to it (unless less is necessary to be caught up and present, but at least until I'm caught up and present, I'm not half-assing this game from the start and then picking up pieces later. I'm doing it right, from the go, and I'm slightly behind, so bear with me.)
*know* that I will be giving this game my A-game 100% - this means multiple word documents with lots of notes and my own personal vote-tracking method (if at any time you wish to see my vote-trackings, just ask and I'll post them - warning, they're kind of messy and take a little understanding on how to read, but it works for me and I'm totally willing to share for anyone who wants to see)
I very much look forward into getting into it.
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No the issue was that you made that determination of not only one post, but his only and first post in the game.
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In post 862, rb wrote:
you don't need 2700000 posts to determine if someone's personality is congruent with their scum or town oneIn post 849, Zachstralkita wrote:
No the issue was that you made that determination of not only one post, but his only and first post in the game.
Then acted like it was actually the intelligent thing to do.
u need at least more than one to determine if they are scum though smart guy
Metas can be altered which is why I don't care for them a lot but cementing that read based off 1 post is a bit much..
You're the IC, you hold too much influence to be doing simple shit
For actual constructive discussion do you think your meta is really solid in this particular case? IE were in a large normal is it not rational to think he threw a BUOY post in a SEA of posts to announce his presence and intentions?
i think that's more sensible than going "oop you slipped and fell on this scum meta UP YORU ASS"
But.. I AM AWARE.. you have good reads.. I just think no one is infallible and even good good town players can make blatantly wrong reads
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well tbh for a player like me there's no other way to play as Innocent Child except as lynchbait to then have your innocence announced. if i put effort in as town i become universally townread and unlynchable, and so the innocent child role becomes useless.In post 848, Zachstralkita wrote:If true stop playing so half assed
If I can treat you and Pine as interchangeable characters there's something wrong
in more than 15 town games i've lived past day2 _ONCE_ in that entire time so i just don't ever bank on myself living long enough to use powers in some crafty way. i have to do something to make it somehow useful, and this at least built up some WaGoNZ and got a lot of discussion going.
and now i will find teh_scumZZ
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Hey guys it's raining outside. I like rain
I would like to preface this by saying you simple simon motherfuckers that better not be a real wagon.
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Then I take the club punishment.In post 974, Alisae wrote:
Good shit.In post 972, Zachstralkita wrote:
Yea theres better lynches and you are enabling low effort votes votes that are easy for scum to make and hide in and the rationale that town players use for this low effort lynch will act as subterfuge for said scum playersAlisae wrote:For wagoning no content AA?
risk vs reward
But what if.
AA flips scum.-
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In post 985, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I wanted to check him out but then I heard he beat up his ex or something and than I just lost interest. Might do it if he's on the 2017 XXL list though.
hes not but his boy ski mask the slump god is. at least twitter says so.
XXL trash anyway
But yeah apparently he didn't do it and his ex claimed injuries that she actually didn't have. IDK tho I wasn't there
rb wrote:zach is town which is cool because i like zach and want him to be town <3
Your display of affection has me questioning my convictions
humans are not nice to me-
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So I'm the only one that didn't get a pun in my name huh? You fuck
I think he's actually trying to investigate things even though I may not agree with things he says there is a definite finding stuff out motive thereIn post 1005, Dunnstral wrote:I didn't like gin calling everyone town but maybe that's just a personal thing
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Does your opinion change if we ignore his push on you?In post 1049, Alisae wrote:^Scum pushing lynchbait^-
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Alisae strikes me as the type of person that is fine with scumreading those who scumread him, regardless of the merit their posts may actually have. It seems evident with drealmerz, that's why I asked.In post 1061, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Could you explain the purpose of this question a bit more for me? Something feels odd about it and I'm trying to figure out if it's just me being silly.In post 1051, Zachstralkita wrote:
Does your opinion change if we ignore his push on you?In post 1049, Alisae wrote:^Scum pushing lynchbait^-
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In post 1088, Zachstralkita wrote:
Alisae strikes me as the type of person that is fine with scumreading those who scumread him, regardless of the merit their posts may actually have. It seems evident with drealmerz, that's why I asked.In post 1061, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Could you explain the purpose of this question a bit more for me? Something feels odd about it and I'm trying to figure out if it's just me being silly.In post 1051, Zachstralkita wrote:
Does your opinion change if we ignore his push on you?In post 1049, Alisae wrote:^Scum pushing lynchbait^
To clarify here, I feel like Alisae does not value whatever actual valid content they may have in light of the scumread on him and possibly does not get that a perspective difference and observing of the facts differently could cause someone to scumread him, opting to believe that only scum would push blatant town like he is. It's partially why I townread him.-
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In post 1176, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:post 1160 through post 1163 is nothing short of a joke in this stage.
No, your fake townposting can no longer be hidden.-
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TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
Expand on thisIn post 1178, Zachstralkita wrote:In post 1176, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:post 1160 through post 1163 is nothing short of a joke in this stage.
No, your fake townposting can no longer be hidden.
I mean, you've done a good job of concealing yourself so far. I'll give you that.-
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