In post 59, Alisae wrote:Nah, I doubt this. I'm TRing Pine for that fake dayvig (assuming it is fake).
how does that give you a TR?
In post 57, Alisae wrote:You're fine dude, I don't care. I honestly didn't see that one line so thanks for pointing it out.
does it occur to you if you missed that line, that you could have missed others, and perhaps it'd be good to go back and read to make sure?
in my experience 75% of the time when someone shows they haven't read the details in the OPs, they're scum
so?
In post 76, Alisae wrote: In post 74, Creature wrote:They're trying to fake a townslip. I wanna see who's gonna try to fake a townslip next.
What makes you think it was fake? Wouldn't scum be more aware of the rules?
why would they be?
why? it's a valid possibility as I see it - it's good to have all of the things out on the table
there are 19 people here, we put it all out there and then see where it's at - 1 or 2 people don't decide about 1 thing
if you have a thought, share it, you (General Yu) never know how unique, valuable, crucial, whatever, it could be - the more the better, imo, no matter how far-fetched (you just have to gauge distractions, red-herrings, etc., but it's never good to so quickly dismiss something) - and I think this sort of thing around rules and reading is a more important thing to discuss, because:
As you see I said in my experience 75% of the time anything like that is either 1.) scum being lazy not feeling the need to read the shit as thoroughly (thread and rules or whatever) or 2.) or just plain scum-tactics, which never really passes because of it 75% of the time being scum!
In post 79, Ircher wrote: In post 60, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:...
I'd love to be able to tell mods in advance what roles to give Pine and I but the likelihood of me playing a game with Pine and I on opposite factions to set up a grudge vote scum theatre just for this game IF we both happened to roll scum would be a god like miracle. However, as much as I wish that was actually true, it is literally a close to impossible scenario, ergo the most logical conclusion is to not treat it as such and wait for more substance throughout the thread before you think you honestly caught 2/X scums when you're already wrong about at least 1 of them.
Kinda feel like the second paragraph is too-much-explanation. As in, trying to justify it too hard.
Something struck me off about it when I read it but I couldn't really articulate it so it's just a notation and am tracking it (no that's not a fucking SC sometimes words are just words.)
In post 80, Creature wrote: In post 76, Alisae wrote: In post 74, Creature wrote:They're trying to fake a townslip. I wanna see who's gonna try to fake a townslip next.
What makes you think it was fake? Wouldn't scum be more aware of the rules?
Scum could still fake townslips specially if they know the rules.
yesyes this dialogue is good
In post 103, Creature wrote:
It says the game ends when all threats to town were eliminated (town win) or it couldn't happen (town loss), but say there's:
3 mafia alive
2 townies alive
1 BP SK alive
At this point town pretty much already lost, though, then the mafia would win even if the SK were alive?
Then I realised the game would still go on at that point.
town could totally win that
In post 107, Alisae wrote:Ircher why don't you attempt to ask where he has played instead of trying to get a sense of what his normalcy is?
I prefer the sense of normalcy information as well (if it's true, it's good to know, if it's not, it will become evident and also be useful), why care where he's played?
- I really like debi's postings so far -
In post 112, Pine wrote:W/E I'll give Debi a pass for now. New to site is new to site.
Site culture is different here, Debi. Adapt.
fuck that shit
play your game, debi
I am new here and have completely different HS culture and FUCK these ppl telling you this shit, they need more outside influence because the culture here is WEAKTOWN and most people suck at scumhunting as far as I see it. Too much reliance on PRs and mechanics to figure things out. Hardly ever enough focus on scumhunting.
In post 119, Wraith wrote:
I agree. Assuming 9 scum right off the bat implies foreknowledge of the setup, which in this case means scum. It's also such an absurd ratio that it would have to mean multiball.
Vote: Debi
it was hypotheticals to illustrate a point, the numbers were not the focal point of what is going on there and that ppl are making that the issue instead of what debi is trying to talk about pings to me, or at least is the wrong way to go about it, imo - focus on the point
focalpoint
of course I'm catching up and see subsequent posts and debi says just that, they're fucking using the hypothetical to illustrate a point about TRGNT's rhetoric, it's not this fucking complicated...
debi - I too have issues with wording sometimes, gets me frustrated and in trouble sometimes and others it causes me to go in circles or ramble, and I sometimes think about making a disclaimer to warn everyone - no this isn't buddying
you just REALLY WANT TO SEEM TOWN, don't you?
eeesh
btw at this point alisae is my top SR and it's been consistent since early
pings everywhere
OKAY STOP
everyone, listen
you can't just write something off as NAI because of how it went in another game - the whole fucking point of NAI is that you CAN'T TELL JUST BECAUSE of how it was in other games, SO WHAT YOU MUST THEN DO is evaluate each situation indivually - if they could be scum or town, you have to look at it, feel it, poke it, whatever you need to do to figure out if you think IN THIS SPECIFIC situation, if it is towny or scummy from, because GUARANTEED, it's one of them, these are the points weigh it, analyze, and HOLD ON TO IT and allow it to be a piece that builds the bigger picture of creature in THIS game
it's like everyone think they should be able to decide if someone is scum or town based off of ONE FUCKING POST and it is the end-all be all
fucking HOLD ON TO YOUR VOTES, let things about numerous people accumulate, grow, shift, AND THEN ONLY WHEN YOU HAVE A STRONG FEELING, vote who you have the strongest feeling about
you all devalue the vote by tossing it out so readily and switching it so easily
it is a POWERFUL tool, if used correctly, quit being so flagrant with its power, please
having said that, I could totally vote alisae as of
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8678870 , not because I don't know the state of game atm since I'm only 1/6 of the way caught up here
FoS TRGNT + Wraith around at this point too
fuckyes loving debi!!! wooooooooooo (just loving how they play, it's NAI, obviously)
In post 211, Ircher wrote:Also, tip for dealing w/ Creature:
If there is a neighborizer, Creature is a good shot.
can you elaborate as to why?
In post 215, Alisae wrote:Ircher is just asking for people's stances and honestly right now I feel like he's playing his town game. He wants to understand where people are coming from.
Dunn I don't like he said Debi was one of his strong town right away. Seemed like he was trying to buddy Debi.
Wraith is currently gut. He's probably also one of my "gun to my head town" reads.
ohmy let's lynch this, why are there 40+ pages still going???
In post 234, mhsmith0 wrote:
Mod note: Since I track votes in excel, I usually provide vote counts with links in them. It's a bit unusual compared to most mods, but I consider it a nice service for players. Sometimes I'll phone/ipad post a VC or the like and you won't get links, but usually you will.
With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch![/color][/b]
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mad mod props for the links (I track them as well but it's always nice to have the mod do it in case I somehow miss registering one)
In post 246, rb wrote:I skipped the first 10 pages. Someone who's town tell me where to vote
fuck
and here comes the next 30 pages for me to read...
but actually your next posts are succinct and right on, wtg, you get a TR quickly, amazeballs, I can soulread rb
In post 264, Pine wrote: In post 258, rb wrote:Pine is town because hes being an antisocial loser which is how he plays town
I really want to take offense and tell you to fuck yourself but...kinda yeah.
Also, I somehow missed Debi's wallpost listing her reads. I skipped to mine (because ego) and laughed my ass off. I didn't bother reading the rest. I'm sorry, I have 14 posts in the six hours that the game has been open, yet somehow you're SRing me because you think I'm lurking? Seriously, go play Newbie games. You need to adapt.
been getting lots of scumpings from pine - I am with rb as he goes from post to post, go rb, go (even though, DON'T GO TOO MUCH, FUCKING GAH)
In post 279, rb wrote:Can we just lynch alisae or gin already so that we can be rewarded with that warm fuzzy feeling town gets when someone flips red. Ty
*giving a thumbs up*
I approve of this message
I think it is possible he is just excited for the possibility
it's also possible he is scum, definitely something to note and help add build to the full picture
In post 310, Alisae wrote:It just seemed sudden that he
suddenly
came in and townread Debi when a lot of people were SRing him at the time.
Like it felt wierd and
sudden
to me. It wasn't a response to his vote moreso him just saying "Debi is town" that triggered my response.
Like, the timing just seemed off to me.
Tho now that I think about it, Debi seems more VI to me now.
ohmy
lyncylynchlynch
I wish rb's dayvig was real
(I didn't buy it at all)
if someone does have it, it'd be a good use, however
"how dare they come in and have a different opinion from the MINORITY of other people who just so happened to be in the game at the time of all these things and so are voicing their opinions and for some reason think since they got their opinions out first others are lesser"
scummmmmmmmm
In post 318, rb wrote:
dude, let's destroy this game...can you keep the shitposting to a minimal? you're doing a GREAT JOB SO FAR, omg loving this rb
seriously, WHAT THE FUCK, people, why are there so many GD pages after this?
In post 338, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Can you do me a favor and start talking about the game instead of talking about out of game shit?
I don't give a single fuck about your animes or your social life, fucking do something.
sounds like he's getting tired of his scum-buddy being such a scumfuck
In post 373, Alisae wrote:Hey, wanna hear a smart idea, let's end the day within the first 24 hours to lynch at VT!
That toally doesn't sound weird and something that sounds like what scum wants.
Scum is totally not on my wagon.
omg yes and at L-2 at this point WHY THE FUCK AM I GOING TO HAVE TO READ ALL THESE UPCOMING PAGES?!?!??!?!?!?
GRAHHHHHHHH
omg yes exactly what I was thinking
it's a bus vote
okay I am at the top of page 19 and I can't read any more of this shit right now, so here you get my big WOT DUMP