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Sup. Are you going to be intolerable this game?
"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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That's funny. I was feeling the same, except that I'm the one doing the leaving, and it's a dumpster behind an organ-recycling facility.In post 558, Alisae wrote:
I feel like the best way to describe the relationship between me is Pine is that I am the child and Pine is the father who wishes he left me infront of a church/orphanage in a basket.In post 551, Pepchoninga wrote:
GG...In post 549, Pine wrote:Of course. I asked you so I could know which reads are nonsense.
I salute you."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Me too!
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I'm still only at the skimming-and-not-caring stage, but what I've seen of Ramcius isn't good.
Withholding a vote for now, I should at the very least ISO him and glance at a VC before I put down a vote.I actually just did those things."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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VOTE: RamciusIn post 811, Pine wrote:I'm still only at the skimming-and-not-caring stage, but what I've seen of Ramcius isn't good.
Withholding a vote for now, I should at the very least ISO him and glance at a VC before I put down a vote.I actually just did those things.
Obviously, the strikeout was meant to convey a willingness to vote as above.
Also, he's focusing way to much on splitting hairs in defending himself, and not enough on finding scum. Falsely accused Town explains themselves, then moves on to finding scum. They don't hyperfocus like this. Or shouldn't, at least."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I was in you before it was cool, scrub. I just forgot to actually use vote tags.In post 830, Ramcius wrote:
if i will call you scum for sheeping my wagon, does that counts as finding scums?In post 828, Pine wrote:
VOTE: RamciusIn post 811, Pine wrote:I'm still only at the skimming-and-not-caring stage, but what I've seen of Ramcius isn't good.
Withholding a vote for now, I should at the very least ISO him and glance at a VC before I put down a vote.I actually just did those things.
Obviously, the strikeout was meant to convey a willingness to vote as above.
Also, he's focusing way to much on splitting hairs in defending himself, and not enough on finding scum. Falsely accused Town explains themselves, then moves on to finding scum. They don't hyperfocus like this. Or shouldn't, at least."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Also, appeasement is scummy.In post 831, Ramcius wrote:
I thought i made it clear that i took my vote away to appease you, and no, i don't see importance in my vote, i simply don't have 1 strong SR and don't want change my vote every time someone else ends up on top of my list, which is pretty dynamicIn post 829, Jaack wrote:
Okay I'll put it this way. There is no real difference to me where your vote ended up. Unvoting Alisae to appease me is what bothered me. And I think I was pretty clear about it.In post 827, Ramcius wrote:
No, it's not semantics, taking vote away means i don't put in anywhere else, so i don't join/start any wagon
No, i don't care for voting someone at this point, we not going lynch anyone anytime soon, and wagon can come and go in matter of hours, so why should i care for vote? I value much more discussing and bringing up plays i find scummy or anti-town early in day
Furthermore, I don't think you really believe this 'who cares who I vote thing' and are just doubling down on it because it's the only explaination you can come up with. Besides, there is evidence to support you do think it matters who you're voting.
First the fact that you invited alisae as opposed to just telling me your disinterest in voting. Your first move was to try and appease me, not to explain yourself.
Second is this very post I am quoting. You don't want to join or start a wagon. Which means you are at least recognizing the importance of your vote, making you accountable for the alisae vote camping.
I'm pretty confident in my vote now thanks to your reaction."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I'm actually none of the above. Since I realized the thread was open a few pages ago, I've been engaged. 811 was clearly intent to vote, when you had I think two other votes on you. In a Large, with original reasoning of my own, calling that 'sheeping' is pretty lol'able. Finally, my role PM begs to differ.
Also, that's some pretty hardcore OMGUS.
PEdit: Transcend, show your work."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Crap, that's actually a good point. Hmm.
The problem is that scum does the same thing and I'm totally talking myself out of this because that means all this is NAI.
Shite.
Alright, but if he doesn't Town it up bit soon, I'll bring this back out.
VOTE: Mick"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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It's D1. I try to be mostly casual D1. I tend to drill down a lot more after we've had a flip and peoples' positions have calcified a bit. I tend to pick up a lot more Townreads on D1 than I do SRs. I'll refer back to it as we move along.In post 916, Alisae wrote:Pine whats your opinion on the general gamestate. Like ya got any other reads?"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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NO
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BAD MOD
NO COOKIE
But but... D:Last edited by inspectorscout on Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:53 pm, edited 1 time in total."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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This is a Townpost. Mocking a SR is delightful.
Gerry you can be part of our Townbloc.Lame
I concur.In post 939, Transcend wrote:935 was a scum claim btw
Why assume multiball?In post 940, Transcend wrote:Manny/Mick probably separate factions. I doubt they put two of their eggs on one obv town lynch.
Transcend, I'm still pretty sure this is scum.In post 945, Ramcius wrote:
i would like hear reasoning why gerry is obv town? All i see from him is being jester and provocativeIn post 940, Transcend wrote:Manny/Mick probably separate factions. I doubt they put two of their eggs on one obv town lynch.
Could it possibly be so easy as Mick/Manuel/Ram?"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Ragequitting is a bit of a Towntell, but Ramcius is both scummy enough and newbie enough to merely nuke the read down to null. W/e.
Mack train is leaving the station. If you want to bus without suspicion, now' the time.
CHOO CHOO"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I concur.In post 1110, Transcend wrote:Oh PeregrineV is town btw
Townbloc is Alisae, Transcend, Peregrine, Gerryoat, and Peregrine.
Scumbloc is Ramcius, Manuel, ConManMick.
Some games you win by scumhunting.
Some games you win by Townhunting.
This game? I might be both."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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I don't see scum coming up with a out-of-the-blue hard TR on Ramcius right now. There's no benefit.
Consider the following from Scum!PV's perspective:
-If you think that Ram is Town, why use your clout to help him? Let him soak a mislynch. Put him in your null reads to avoid suspicion, maybe on the null-Town side if you really want to fish for Towncred should he flip Town.
-If you think Ram is opposing scum, you definitely don't go out on a limb for him. You push for his lynch.
-If you think he's null, just toss him in with the rest."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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By the way, for future reference, this is how you use a strong scumgame to bolster your Towngame. Figure out cost/benefit to possible actions, and then try to assess what you'd do as scum in their place. When it doesn't fit with their actions, they're either a newbie, an idiot, or Town. PV is not an idiot, and he's not new. It's plausible he's going for an elaborate attempt at mining Towncred, but it doesn't work from a risk/reward perspective."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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No opinion yet. Maybe if I get really bored I'll ISO.In post 1129, Alisae wrote:
Hmm...In post 1127, Pine wrote:-If you think Ram is opposing scum, you definitely don't go out on a limb for him. You push for his lynch.
Pine, fruit for thought:
Jaack scum.
Thoughts?
The whole point of not obsessively reading the first two dozen pages is that I may see things you don't. Town tends to play a lot scummier early on, with nothing to do. Scum tends to play tighter. I'm seriously considering skipping the first couple of (RL) days of discussion as a general rule. Depends how this goes."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Crap there's more pages than I thought. Stringing responses together.
Really it's only one more than would exist in a standard 13v4 Large, and we might be looking at 11v3v3, or even 10v3v3v1.In post 1135, Transcend wrote:
That is a fuck ton of bottom tier scum reads btwIn post 1114, Alisae wrote:{Ram, kuror0, Manuel, Mick, Gamma}
You're in a tough position, Clumsy. I don't envy it. Consider yourself on probation from the start.In post 1169, Clumsy wrote:Hello! It's late here, but I've done a little reading. 30 pages to go. Probably have some first thoughts tomorrow at some point.The cake is a lie.
I kinda feel like Pep might be scum.In post 1180, Pepchoninga wrote:
I kind afeel like Manuel is town.In post 1148, Manuel87 wrote:
It is true that i didnt interact with him until i mentioned my sr on him but the point you make is that i made a case without interacting with him.In post 1146, Alisae wrote:
Naaaaaaah, you're misrepping me now.In post 1142, Manuel87 wrote:I explained my read on him when he asked me. You might want to read that part again before misreping it.
You never interacted with him up to the point where he asked for a case.
If I phrased it differently sorry, that's what I meant.
I gave the case when he asked me why he is in my scumreads.
Either way i dont see what is bad about developing a scumread on someone.
Please explain how it makes me scum when you dont even take your time to argue about my points on him.
@Elena: Your name and avatar have been bugging me since we started, and I finally placed it! Uncharted is win.
I'm now getting mild TRs on Yoshi and Elena, mild scum on Iron. Not worthy of the Townbloc on the former, nothing actionable on the latter."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Everyone is post restricted to art and votes.
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It hasn't been sudden. You've been kind of opportunistic, your reads are all kinds of made up, and you're making all kinds of newbiescum tells.In post 1314, Pepchoninga wrote:
Why am I such a scum all of a sudden?In post 1311, Pine wrote:Pep moves into the definitelymegakillscum category.
Show your work.In post 1319, Transcend wrote:Pep is townIn post 1328, Transcend wrote:I am now a Survivor
I'm coming up on mine.In post 1330, Alisae wrote:Ay nice 10k posts bro."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Obviously.In post 1382, Transcend wrote:You might have been right after all
@Clumsy 1398 - Not quoting and snipping that long fucker of a post. Transcend is super obvTown. Shut up unless it is to scumhunt the other team or tell us yours.
In this game? Entirely. This is me in Strahd. Transcend is my Andrius, Alisae is Sly, and regrettably, you replaced Dunnstral.In post 1405, Clumsy wrote:Pine, how much can I trust you?WHAT. Disagree. Stop it. You were on board a bit ago.
I can support this, though I'd like to see a VC first so I know I'm not quickhammering. There's been a bunch of votes here lately, and I think some were already in place. Clumsy's presence on the wagon would make me lolnope, but multiball is good like that.In post 1416, Transcend wrote:Gear,vanilla townie, was lynched day 5.
Pedit: i like wagons. The woof woof needs to advance.
VOTE: IRONSTOVE
@Mod: Vote count please
Consider this a provisional vote on Iron."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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You're missing a vote on Iron. Townbloc goooooooIn post 1438, Alisae wrote:All my TRs want Ironstove...
Am I missing something?
Like he's on V/LA...
lolnoIn post 1459, Pepchoninga wrote:
I dislike this. Hopping back on a wagon that she was in before she voted me. Tho after seing that he push on me was weak and didn't get any attention and she knew she's not getting me lynched, she again hops on iron.In post 1415, Elena Fisher wrote:Pep's last post was really good and a lot of people wanting to lynch him makes me go to paranoia city
VOTE: Iron
Let's make this wagon take off
OPPORTUNISTIC AT ITS BEST
Revoting a wagon you were already on is the opposite of opportunistic. It's consistent.
@Clumsy1473 - What's up with wallposts I don't want to snip? Okay, the shut up was rude, but I tend to be a bit brusque with my SRs. It isn't your fault you inherited that slot. By yourself, I'd be objecting to your reads, which are mostly ridiculous, but wouldn't be hard SRing you. The problem is that you're failing to redeem a scummy slot.
Holy shit check out the whiteknighting that Pep is doing. Iron flips scum, we do Pep next."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Probably scum working too hard for towncred.In post 1484, Clumsy wrote:My reads are fine, yours are wrong. At least some of them. Question for you: if Iron flips town, what do you think of Pep?"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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In post 1523, Transcend wrote:
i have no idea what this means but i'm townIn post 1521, Pine wrote:Voltroning of this Townbloc"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Yeah that's caught scum.
This game is like an embarrassment of riches for finding scum
PEdit: Iron are you still whining about the wagon on you? Deal with it. If you're Town, hat up and go be Town. This bitching and tantrum-throwing really doesn't help you."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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1) Pep is scum, and we've both said soIn post 1552, ironstove wrote:
I'm sorry, you think that pep is town and you agree with me, yet you still scum read me as well? Why do you have such contradicting behavior?In post 1546, Pine wrote:Yeah, we know Pep is scum too. You're not contributing anything new.
You realize that based on your reads thus far, it's contradicting to try to push both me and pep as a scum team. Do you understand why?
2) This was advertised as multiball, so a paltry bit of halfassed scumhunting on literally the closest target does not net you a TR"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Okay, fine you whiner.In post 488, ironstove wrote:If I was a vigi and I had 2 bullets and I was in a room with gerry, hitler, and stalin, I would shoot gerry twice.In post 746, ironstove wrote:Do setups like this usually hit majority on D1? Anyway I hard claim not mafia. Remove your lynches.
These three posts stand out as not especially Town-motivated. I joined in the Iron wagon for three reasons - first, the above amounts to a weak scumread. Second, my TRs all/mostly were thinking the same thing. Third, a flashwagon can help pressure someone to react, which you did. My weak scumread is now a pretty lockscum read because you've reacted TERRIBLE to getting some votes on you. Seriously, Town just doesn't hyperobsess with arguing the minutia of their wagon, they fight it by acting Town. That weaksauce attack on Pep was a clear attempt to divert attention away from you. Your attempts to deflect suspicion back onto me, then to dismiss me as an idiot. Then continuing to hyperfocus on yourself.In post 747, ironstove wrote:Haven't really been reading the game, I'm kinda low-effort towning it while there are this many players in the game because it's hard to formulate reads, but please continue posting and don't let me be a distraction.
Yeah, it all points to scum!Iron
Sorry, caught is caught."Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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