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WhyIn post 11, Not Known 15 wrote:VOTE: UnaBombaH
Because his response (Post7) feels out of line for me-
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Okay was going to wait and see on this more but fuck it
VOTE: Mulch
Like 99% sure he's trying to hard buddy everyone he's played with before with bullshit meta reads and pushing on the rest. I don't think these reads are real in depth and especially carca seems out of line.
Don't see the fascination with multiball d1 coming from town either tbh.-
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Bullshit buddyingIn post 222, Mulch wrote:Lol or anyone saying "I'm not scummy". Pretty typical town Dunker
Bullshit buddyingIn post 157, Mulch wrote:Boon ur obvious when ur scum
Bullshit buddyingIn post 152, Mulch wrote:Boon let's not focus on semantics. Also I would feel so bad lynching unah cause they are so fun to play with
BullshitIn post 142, Mulch wrote:I sense a town win. I have too many townreads
Bullshit moon logicIn post 85, Mulch wrote:
What do you mean?In post 84, MeowMix wrote:hello friends
I see by user: Mulch's posting that we're already off to a great start
Paranoia!Mulch is thinking this is either a multiball who is signalling to me because they think I signalled to them it's multiball, or a traitor trying to plant a false signal.
Bullshit carca read and putting self in townbloc (Moz read is okay though).In post 62, Mulch wrote:Many a town have been led to destruction by underestimatinh newb scum.
Moz, mulch, carca townbloc rn
This guy is full of shit and IDK why he's not getting called on it-
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I know as scum I try to work around people I know and generally unofficially bloc (people who know each other give each other benefit of the doubt) while keeping the rest as lynches. This is kind of blatant though and I don't think he's been asking questions/really sorting these people before putting them there.-
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That said it's likely if mulch is scum for one or two of his townreads to be so as well (if not there's not so much point) but in that case it's likely to be of the relatively silent townreads/the lower-interaction ones unless he went next level and purposely tried to look like he was pocketing a buddy on purpose for a sick association, though that's PROBABLY going too deep in the rabbit hole atm.-
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In post 39, Mulch wrote:
Ive played with them a lot, basically. I have decent meta reads on them. Unfortunately they are hard to explain, it’s more of a general vibe, so you gotta trust me on it. Although, my weakest read might be Fykus. He’s capable of imitating his town meta I believeIn post 38, Raskolnikov wrote:Dunk and moz I could see but how do you have a townread on carca and fykus?-
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So basically your response is meta.In post 239, Mulch wrote:Also, if by "buddy" you mean act friendly, then yes I buddy as both allignments. Ask anyone.
Multiball is generally more of a scum concern if it hasn't been confirmed and bringing it up d1 suggests extra information that points to it. Not impossible but not the crux of my vote either.Finally, I wanna know why you think town aren't interested in talking about multiball, and more importantly why you think it's bad for town to include themselves in town blocs.
Putting oneself as town is admittedly common and probably just something that annoys me, but pushing it that early and repeatedly it shows a real concern over how you're getting read and appearance.-
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Okay I've looked at some mulch games of both align. The LAMIST comes a lot from scum especially from replacing in as scum but also from town so I guess that's NAI.
See way more of an even mix of scumreads and townreads from town mulch vs here but same for scum mulch... though logically it's probably useless as an indicator anyways because blatant hard buddying likely wouldn't be a strategy feasible to repeat across scumgames. Still feel like the reads here are intended to pocket though.
But it's true that it's not definitive that naked meta reads can't come from town.Mulch you must explain your reads now, the ones you haven't already.Even if something is a meta read you can go into detail, and even if I don't have that meta the person themselves can probably judge it unless they lie.
Dunkerdoodles (somehow feel like you aren't taking dunkerdoodles seriously from game outset)
Mozarims
Acid
Carca (she posted more since then)
Fykus (this read changed)
There are expressed meta reads on all of these that I can't satisfyingly follow (either nothing given OR I don't understand what was there).
Also one thing I've noticed is town mulch tends to partner hunt or at least call partners (though doesn't like preflips) which I haven't seen any of this game.
Do potentially have some tells now that may become relevant in the future though and hopefully be actually definitive.-
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WRT to meowmix I completely understand his NK scumread (would generally expect that interpretation reading that NK vote) as said earlier and interest in the slot is consistent with asking him a question later.
Scumread on boonskiies for too much self meta and when he posted a lot of self referential stuff I could follow too. The only thing is why mulch is opportunistic when PK and massive votes were pretty similar. Think this slot is more likely town than not though and is potentially siteflaking anyways.
Get the impression the wagons generally POE powered and kind of taking issue with the style (lowercase/lazy posting) apart from texcat starting it off with the TBH tell which is kind of lol.-
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So one thing I don't like is how fkyus and boonskiies were calling unabombah scum earlier but since then haven't really followed it up.
That said I definitely scumread him too and I'm wondering if this was just town lazyness or forgetfulness vs a kind of distancing with no intention of being a read.-
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It was 51 and it does definitely look like grasping, the only thing is you have to try to consider scum vs newbtown grasping at straws to start a game and do follow up but wouldn't expect that from most peopleIn post 513, Mulch wrote:
Can you go into more detail on this?In post 512, Raskolnikov wrote:I completely understand his NK scumread (would generally expect that interpretation reading that NK vote-
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My anti preflip is logically only ruling out S-S, if you're town it wouldn't somehow make boonskiies scum that doesn't make sense.In post 501, Mulch wrote:
Nope we could be town town or town scumIn post 499, Raskolnikov wrote:I think probably safe at this point to anti-preflip mulch and boonskiies.-
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VOTE: Unabomba
Don't see the point of most of his posts, seems to be playing reactively and kinda shading a few people at various times but not scumhunting them.
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Probably getting replaced along with PK and Xna tbh.In post 525, Mulch wrote:What about meow-
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Wait what's the contradiction? You can agree with a read but wonder why it's not being followed up on.In post 535, Carcalilly wrote:
That first paragraph is kinda blah.In post 514, Raskolnikov wrote:So one thing I don't like is how fkyus and boonskiies were calling unabombah scum earlier but since then haven't really followed it up.
That said I definitely scumread him too and I'm wondering if this was just town lazyness or forgetfulness vs a kind of distancing with no intention of being a read.
You low key sound like you're contradicting yourself and discrediting others.-
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@Wavemode, Massivewant a stance from you on the unabombah and meowmix wagons and justification for kamina votes.
If either was a reaction test then it's probably not going to do anything anymore and I think potentially kamina isn't coming back either.-
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This is okay but idk why start a new wagon on dunker instead of joining unabombah unless that's a lot stronger scumread?In post 619, XnadrojX wrote:OK I'm lazy to quote up 25 pages of Boonskiies doing weird shit and people responding with weird shit and the amount of self-meta and NAI shit flying about is confusing me so I just did a quick skim and came up with a few preliminary reads.
Acid and Mulch is likely town here, even if I don't agree with most of what Mulch said. Raskol town too probs.
Boonskiies has just been playing according to how he plays basically every game, I don't want to read him for now.
I think Una and Dunker are scum, their posts seem to be less "hey look, there's scum" and more "Hey [insert player here], I think you're right"
VOTE: Dunker
Making a more thorough post when I actually get to analysing the important things. If anyone can tell me where the main highlights are please tell me because when I said skimming I literally meants glossing over anything remotely insignificant.-
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If one believes scum are in lurkers, which people have pushed, then I would first think of kamina, assemble, meowmix, pisskop and carcalilly. Massive isn't really the first name that comes to mind, so I don't follow this narrative for his push.-
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Err sorry for holding things up atm. Result.
Getting home later than I would like but by Wed night for sure, don't end the day by then either (only just skimmed but idk why moz is almost lynched)-
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How does the result / no result mass have anything to do with boon result though
I guess if 2 people claimed no result you could then assume at least one of them is town via scum roleblock? Doesn't seem worth outing over though. Outing a pr for the sake of clearing them seems like a pretty shit deal-
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VOTE: acidphoenix
Scum ISO here, hopefully killer as well
Seems stupid doing anything and pretending its going to happen when we're 100% lynching in the results though, literally no point of wagoning anyone if its not one of the 2
maybe if lucky this is the scum sent-
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can maybe deduce with brilliant powers of deduction that boonskiies did not see one of mulch or moz visit dunker because then he would and/or should have just claimed a track on them given dunker scumreads on em instead of risk outing a million prs-
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That awk moment when you ISO mods to start VCA because you hate people but remember scum was a vig
Annoyingly mulch prob town after all via combined mulch-james iso, even ignoring mulch scum strength potential via experience the james is new and he would prob be more flat on his end of the exchange if S-S-
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