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VOTE: Dunkerdoodles, but definitely not because I want to be opportunistic and get a fast lynch on him.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I better stamp my one-way ticket to townie-land then?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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VOTE: Wavemode for false advertising.In post 65, wavemode wrote:Sorry that train has sailed"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I think I'm going to fall off unless I get to do some serious reading tonight!
I think we COULD just lynch Boon D1 and scum won't have to NK him..?
I assume you agree Boon?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Oh god you guys..In post 115, Boonskiies wrote:Yeah, Una just posted the scummiest thing in the world. Why are you staying scum wouldn’t have to night kill?
I meant that if we would lynch Boon D1, then scum wouldn't have to NK him N1.
Not funny?
No?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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That is EXACTLY what it was supposed to be.In post 127, Boonskiies wrote:I’m going to take it as a compliment to my town game being dangerous to scum later in game. But you’re on thin ice.
And "oooo, I'm scared..!"
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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So maybe there is no scum Mulch?
Wanna lynch Boon just for funsies before we ask for the mod to end the game in a town-win?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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In post 143, Boonskiies wrote:Una’s going to have to step up his hame if he wants to sweep us.
Also I'm lame.In post 144, Boonskiies wrote:Also, his game."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I don't know, I'm still waiting for my first true scumroll.
And I wouldn't have to try and lynch guys like you Boon, I could just kill you!
And after all, you have all seen me at my best: it isn't much."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Still not.
But I'm starting to think you are.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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So I read the game thusfar, there isn't much that I could analyze yet.
I've been trying a new D1-strat where I act scummier than normal and try to draw focus to myself to open conversation faster, but it hasn't worked out for me so I'm not going there this time.
So I'll just wait and hope to see D3 where I can actually try and gamesolve?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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You really think I'm fun to play with??In post 152, Mulch wrote:Boon let's not focus on semantics. Also I would feel so bad lynching unah cause they are so fun to play with"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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My best scumreads are the ones I can't explain, and those are rarely the type I (or anyone else for that matter) "should" have..In post 151, Boonskiies wrote:Yes, most scum think they should scum read me at this point.
Maybe it's just that you reacted rather stiffly to my silly joke about lynching you D1..?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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You also escaped my attention in that Normal because my paranoia was >90% directed towards rb/Eddie..In post 156, Boonskiies wrote:The times I have been scum, you hard town read me early, then the paranoia crept on you."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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My meta-read on him is that he also likes to drop all momentum towards him before it even starts to mount up properly.In post 158, texcat wrote:I'm confused by the early claim. And Boon, why are you calling Una scum and yet voting for Meow?
When talking about him, I'd say it's completely NAI, because I doubt he would even be afraid to fake-claim to make it through to D2/D3.
And when he is town, he can definitely solve the game there (at least something like 2/3 consistently), so maybe it is for the team even if it might sometimes mess other peoples plays..
Just my take on him after playing in 3+ games together and reading even more from him."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Texcat?In post 166, Boonskiies wrote:Kitty is probably town.
For poking their head in?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Oh, most certainly agreed.In post 167, pisskop wrote:Boon's capable of fakeclaiming as scum. And as Ive pointed out, he could be scumanda weak investigator."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Can actually agree on this.In post 169, Boonskiies wrote:
Yep.In post 168, UnaBombaH wrote:
Texcat?In post 166, Boonskiies wrote:Kitty is probably town.
For poking their head in?
Would be easy for scum to just watch and jump in when there is a chance to push an agenda...
Now that pisskop-post on the other hand..?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'm aware of my biggest weaknesses in my D1 play.In post 266, Not Known 15 wrote:Don't like this 153 strategy at all but he is insisting that he is not using it now. So why did he bring it up?
I think Una could be evil.
For players who like to dwell in their world of meta (I sometimes fall under that criteria myself), it's better that I analyze my own way of playing.
That means that meta-researching might not be worth it, because I could manipulate my play as scum.
So what I said there is completely NAI, but I thought it would be better to bring it forth myself.
I think Not Known 15 using the word "evil" always makes me think he is posing.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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This is something scum would say themselves, just pointing out for future notice!In post 321, mozamis wrote:scum lurking their way through as per usual. Look at this page. everyone on it, apart from maybe Tex, is town."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I would say so, yes.In post 337, Mulch wrote:Una, so you brought it up so that people wouldent waste time meta reading you?
At least mainly that, maybe with a hint of "I wonder if anyone attacks this?""If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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As much as this might be true, it gets less true every time someone continues the chain..In post 341, wavemode wrote:
This is something scum would say themselves, just pointing out for future notice!In post 334, UnaBombaH wrote:This is something scum would say themselves, just pointing out for future notice!
Do you disagree with my post?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Don't have energy to make long posts today, this was the 11th day I've been working more or less in a row.
This sunday I'll try to pick my slack up.
What I can say based on these last few pages even with a very quick read?
Fykus or Raskolnikov (harashoo!) is scum."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Whoo, finally able to post tonight!
Will still be busy the following days, but try to more or less keep up from now on.
Something I noticed while re-reading: Dunker + XnadrojX felt like an obvious pairing until:
I was going write off pairing them, but...BUT. Less than 24 hours later:In post 619, XnadrojX wrote:I think Una and Dunker are scum, their posts seem to be less "hey look, there's scum" and more "Hey [insert player here], I think you're right"
VOTE: Dunker
Making a more thorough post when I actually get to analysing the important things. If anyone can tell me where the main highlights are please tell me because when I said skimming I literally meants glossing over anything remotely insignificant...and less than 6 hours apart:
Backpedaling on his vote, hiding his "poor read" behind "just skimmed", and satisfied with his part of distancing?In post 648, XnadrojX wrote:This just points a giant middle finger to everyone reading you as scum
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mulch
Also, I wasn't really looking at the wagons, I was just skimming and I thought Dunker looked worse than Una.
..but doesn't unvote or move his vote over.In post 654, Dunkerdoodles wrote:actually on second thought i think xan is town, scum doesnt post that.
My biggest issue with this is the fact that it feels SO obvious, but maybe that was the aim all along?
VOTE: XnadrojX"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Actually: NOT SURE OF THE VOTECOUNT, CAN WE GET ONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE? (ty)
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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When?In post 664, Mulch wrote:I can see this. Uh, but he also has fooled me in the past so *shrug*
I haven't really rolled scum on this site yet..
Being Traitor doesn't count, and you know how good I am at that."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I mean, you CAN.In post 671, Carcalilly wrote:I don't think we can just day1 una
If he's scum we could prob find out better later...
It has been proven time and time again, I am easy to lynch as town..
But yea, you SHOULDN'T."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I wanted to VOTE: massive too, but they townread me so I cant..
Busy times at work again.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Should I be proud of this btw?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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To anyone who didn't realize/know: that linked post was my entrance to the game where Mace and Acid were scum, and I called their interaction out, but couldn't convince others to vote with me..
NotKnown15 replaced into the Mace-slot that game, so he was one of the winning scum with Acid."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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With deadline so close, Im sorry for being inactive..has been crazy at work.
I"ll read before deadline and decide my stance before night (unless someone hammers)."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Result.
I would LOVE to speculate why we are doing this, but I assume it wouldn't be good..
I mean, I think I know why, but I think it can't work yet.
We get 100% results anyway?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Want to guess why we are doing this, or are we still waiting for the rest of the claims?
I'd say I have a good guess."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Pretty much had to be tracker/watcher -scenario..In post 1278, Boonskiies wrote:I’m an Ascetic watcher
The problem with this "claiming" was that there was no reason to say "no result" for scum.
Especially now that you have outed your role, they know that by saying result, they can soft an investigative and force it to a 50/50 anyway..
Loved the mystique though!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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So..are we still waiting for a claim, or for Boon to come clean?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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[META]
While catching these last few pages up, this is something that pinged me hard.In post 1301, wavemode wrote:Then let's discuss flipping moz?
All in favor say VOTE: mozamis
All opposed, please claim scum now and save us some time
I think I have been in the same game with wavemode for something like 2 or 3 times (too lazy to make sure) now, and I have noticed a change in confidence in his posting.
I AM NOT SAYING IT IS NECESSARILY AI, but it could mean something.
He HAS been town in all the previous games I have seen him in.
Just putting this out there for future reads.
This was another post that pinged me.In post 1298, wavemode wrote:
Oh, no need to apologizeIn post 1296, Fykus wrote:Whats ascetic do? Also ill post some more after work, i apologise for being so inactive
Your eventual lynch will be swift and painless
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This feels bad...In post 1309, Mulch wrote:
Hi vig xDIn post 1308, mozamis wrote:lol.....
I was pretty sure it was you after you shot James, everyone else shoots me pretty sure. Lol
I'm not sure what town!mulch could hope to achieve with this."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Boon: you are not shaking on your townread on Mulch? At all for now?
To flip it around @mulch: is there a scenario where scum!Boon gambits with a claim here?
(no need for anyone else to harp on this, this question is tailored for Mulch specifically)
Thank you - I'm off to my first day-off in two weeks!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Nice, welcome!In post 1450, LoudmouthLee wrote:Hi, everyone! I am replacing Pisskop. If you haven't already lynched (which you might have!), I would love the opportunity to give a read and make a case.
I think you have an uphill battle, but your input is needed to move the game forward. (as well as me being more active as my workload is finally maybe lightening)"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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And a hasty move by Raskolnikov - Claims a role that shouldn't be legal in this game!
What does he do next?
Find out, when we return to this game.
Same Bat-thread, same Bat-*time redacted*, next gameday!
( VOTE: Raskolnikov)"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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@Wavemode - that was my other candidate for a reaction!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I do not understand what is so complicated about this...it's probably just something my newbie-brain can't handle.
* We had three kills last night, two on the first one.
* 1/2 of the deaths first night was scum, so we are sure to have a Vig/SK or two scum-factions..right?
(small possibility for a blocked kill that would've been a third, but I think not N1)
* 1/3 of the deaths last night was weak, so it is quite likely that Boon "killed himself" by targeting an opposing faction..right?
(seems like too much of a coincidence to have a weak-modifier die as a third NK..at least to me)
* And then these:
+In post 1401, Boonskiies wrote:Rask, rask, aloof and true, he’s so true, he’s number 2.
=In post 1474, Zaphkael wrote:BoonSkiies died last night!In post 1487, Raskolnikov wrote:Boonskiies results implies he targeted me last night and therefore mulch is scum.EVEN IF BOON WAS NK'D, his death still implicates Rask.
So of course Rask had noted that post by Boon previously, and was thinking about how to react to it when the time came.
Mulch is almost (and I do mean ALMOST) conf.town, and Rask is "guiltied" by that quote from Boon.
If we don't follow it now, we are not using his crumbs and possibly end up lynching the one confirmed townie he left behind.
OF COURSE SCUM WOULD TRY TO GAMBIT THIS.
So we lynch Rask today even if only to remove the WIFOM, and we move on from there.
Mulch is likely to die tonight, so please give all you can before the lynch!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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No.In post 1508, mozamis wrote:thanks Boon for getting yourself killed - all your gambit did was lose town a PR. Idiot.
Yes.In post 1510, mozamis wrote:the mods in this game are having...problems.
..no?In post 1522, mozamis wrote:Boon was killed so he didn't do anything last night. (Him being killed would take precedence over his NK action).
No!In post 1527, mozamis wrote:Rask can't be scum, there is no way in the world he would do this is as scum.
No.In post 1543, mozamis wrote:ANYWAY P.O.E IS NOW MOZ, RASK, WAVE TOWN."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Rask did it because the blame was surely coming their way at some point.In post 1517, mozamis wrote:My gut response is that I'm inclined to believe Rask - no one was really suspecting him, why the fuck would he do that as scum. ( As i said about Boon).
(If not today by someone else, then tomorrow by me: I was going to read Boons ISO tomorrow for clues on potential targets. With a weak-modifier he was sure to give us crumbs because he might abruptly die, and there I would've found this rhyme he did, and would've sure as hell latched onto it.)
Whether Boon was NK'd or died because he was weak doesn't matter - Rask was expecting to be investigated last night and might have acted upon it anyway."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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If I were to assume town!Rask, then this would be such a weird reaction (opposite to so many others'), that I would interpret it as scum!Moz knowing their alignment.
For assuming now I'm assuming scum!Rask though, and that makes me think this is town!Moz for taking their side so eagerly.
Everyone outside of Moz and Rask: do you believe scum!Moz would outright go for scum!Rasks defense like this?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I have a bad habit of writing long..In post 1551, wavemode wrote:I feel like I just said all of this but in less words
But moz will not accept it"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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No wait, I got it now.
Rask = Traitor
They can't kill Boon before the investigation, but Boon would still die because he is weak."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Possible too, but I dislike Boon giving us clear steps for in case he dies, and then just changing that.In post 1579, texcat wrote:The 3 deaths mean that Boon targeted scum. Who do you think he targeted? It looks to me like the posts I quoted point to Moz.
I'm a bit disappointed in him if he did."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Glad to see this..In post 1583, mozamis wrote:VOTE: unvote
VOTE: Rask
sorry guys i have been a complete dick.
but i couldn't sleep and was thinking about it, and realised i am overcomplicating it.
BOON SAID HE WAS GOING TO "INVESTIGATE" RASK. BOON DIED.RASK IS CONF SCUM.
sorry got sidetracke d by the Nk's.
(and scum obviously didnt kill Boon outright beacuse they were worreid about Boon being bulletproof or being protected whatever).
so yeah, Rask is scum.
..scum.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Yes, always yes on town flips.
But after you flip red I'll still read you v Moz."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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You wish!In post 1594, Raskolnikov wrote:Now, as for town, be a good sport and try not to abuse too much the fact that thread will probably stay unlocked for who knows how long after hammer, hmm?
Nah, in all honesty, at least Rask is being a good sport here.In post 1595, Raskolnikov wrote:Also your daily reminder that there's only 11 alive not 12. PK was replaced by loudmouthlee and then lynched and hammer should've technically been at 6 votes today not 7 as a result
Hope to see you as town in future games!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Catch-up and a post coming today.
I'll dig deep with Rask."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Mulch, what were your later kills at night?In post 1158, Mulch wrote:I'm completely shook that James was scum. So much for being more trusting that those attack me can be wrong town and not immediately OMGUSing...
WHY. WHY THE ONE TIME IT WAS SCUM DO I PLAY nice and try to convince him I'm wrong. FFs
James was the first one, but which have been the later ones?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Acid is sort of surely not scum."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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My thoughts on this? 'Murica-Jesus beat me to it:In post 1618, wavemode wrote:UNVOTE:
So Mulch is cleared and most people are coming around to a Fykus vote atm. Fair enough. However, we need to at least take a poll first. Assuming there is one scum left and it's Fykus, we win after this. But assuming the (imo) more likely case there's two,who is everyone feeling are the last two?Can we get a discussion going on this? As for me, if I had to guess I'd say Fykus and acid.
We might also consider a massclaim if everyone agrees.
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..are my thoughts exactly.In post 1621, Nero Cain wrote:Your post was LAMIST. The appeal to majority is super scummy.
So I dug my own ISO, and how I have felt about his slot during this game before (honestly, the long nights have muddied my reads a lot), and this is what I found:
VOTE: wavemode, and I feel good about this.In post 1341, UnaBombaH wrote:[META]
While catching these last few pages up, this is something that pinged me hard.In post 1301, wavemode wrote:Then let's discuss flipping moz?
All in favor say VOTE: mozamis
All opposed, please claim scum now and save us some time
I think I have been in the same game with wavemode for something like 2 or 3 times (too lazy to make sure) now, and I have noticed a change in confidence in his posting.
I AM NOT SAYING IT IS NECESSARILY AI, but it could mean something.
He HAS been town in all the previous games I have seen him in.
Just putting this out there for future reads.
This was another post that pinged me.In post 1298, wavemode wrote:
Oh, no need to apologizeIn post 1296, Fykus wrote:Whats ascetic do? Also ill post some more after work, i apologise for being so inactive
Your eventual lynch will be swift and painless
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Also, just a chill little question here...WHO REPLACED PISSKOP?!?!?!?
Thanks."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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So Mulch..want to tell me which NKs have been yours?
I find it more scummy if you take time answering you know..!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Let the man speak, please.In post 1640, wavemode wrote:Mulch is conftown"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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And then..?
And then?In post 1643, Fykus wrote:Not vig
And then??In post 1630, UnaBombaH wrote:Also, just a chill little question here...WHO REPLACED PISSKOP?!?!?!?
AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??AND THEN??In post 1627, UnaBombaH wrote:Mulch, what were your later kills at night?
James was the first one, but which have been the later ones?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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It was a shitty movie reference.In post 1655, wavemode wrote:Una are you high
Also I'm getting annoyed because I'm getting ignored - I honestly think there's value in my questions, if only they'd be answered."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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