Mafia 106 - Killers Mafia II - Over Already?

[Ellibereth]

Oh we won. And solemn wasn't scum....

WHY WAS I KILLED N1 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

[Sando]

threw*

And my kill on dana was purely for lurking, had no scum read on him at all.

[Parama]

Cades, why the drastic read change solely based on one action? You had me pegged as town for most of the day then changed your mind at the last second and killed me :'(
Anyways, kyle flipping scum is about as unsurprising as I could have imagined.

[Ellibereth]

Kyle, I'm curious, was what I said here true: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 52#2032852

[Parama]

And wow, thanks for that link Ellibereth, right below that post is a cades quote that helps me ask my question:

I believe 100% Parama is town.

How does refusal to hammer one person change your view on someone so drastically, cades? x_x

[LlamaFluff]

Actions

Night Zero

sando (CPR Doctor) - Targets Lowell
cades (CPR Doctor) - Does Nothing
BloodCovenent (Weak Doctor) - Targets Rhinox
danakillsu (mafia) - Targets Rhinox

~Lowell dies

Night One

sando (CPR Doctor) - danakillsu
cades (CPR Doctor) - parama
BloodCovenent (Weak Doctor) - fishythefish
danakillsu (mafia) - Ellibereth

~danakillsu, parama and ellibereth die

Night Two

sando (CPR Doctor) - bloodcovenent
cades (CPR Doctor) - kyle99
BloodCovenent (Weak Doctor) - sando
kyle99 (mafia) - cades

~bloodcovenent, kyle99 and cades die

[kyle99]

Kyle, I'm curious, was what I said here true: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 52#2032852

Nope, and I honestly thought cades was the serial killer/second mafia faction. His play did get slightly better throughout the game, but his beginning play was just awful >.<

[kyle99]

Yeah my kill on Dana really through the game open for town. This was poor play from Dana, you cannot lurk in a game with basically 2 vigs.

Not killing a CPR doc though on N1, that was a very odd and in hindsight bad choice, how come?

The reason I picked Ellibereth was I wasn't sure that you were CPR doc and I thought cades was too stupid to be any threat. Ellibereth had it right from the start though, so props to him.

[BloodCovenent]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTT

[BloodCovenent]

so, because sando was targeted by me.... while he targeted me... I died? Lol!

[Parama]

Looking at Night 2 actions, they're pretty funny honestly. Everyone targeted each other xD
I can imagine how kyle vs cades went...
cades: "Hi, I'm here to perform CPR on you, which will save your life as long as you've already been shot by the mafia."
kyle: "Well I'm going to kill you."
cades: "Well, I'm still going to perform CPR on you anyways."
*cades performs CPR on kyle*
*kyle shoots cades right when he's about to die*
*both fall to the floor dead*

...that must've been one awkward confrontation xD
/random

[Rhinox]

*chuckle*

Told you guys we should've lynched kyle, but go toooowwwn! ---->

I was wrong about Parama at the beginning, though.

lol.. sorry bout that Since my read on URoE ended up being spot on, I decided I should trust my other reads as well.

But go town! this might actually be the best town I've been a part of. Not because of the quick and easy win, but because almost all the time everyone was making sane decisions. In a worse town, cades would have been lynched for active lurking/VI-ness, sando would have been lynched for claiming the same role as cades, BC's claim would have caused at least a major distraction while he was being lambasted for premature claiming, and URoE would have weasled out of the lynch and got Ellibereth lynched.

I'm not sure what I'd have done had kyle not been killed overnight and the game continued. I probably would have suspected tubby for no content + hammering bogre. Don't know if I woulda came around to a kyle lynch or not. Glad I didn't have the opportunity to mess everything up

I really want to know more of the scum logic for killing ellibereth N2. I tried to put myself in the mindset of the scum, and just couldn't rationalize it as optimal play. The logical nk choice would have been me, BC, cades, or sando. ellibereth, though strong on the URoE wagon, was entirely unconfirmed. I was sort of confirmed, or rather would be upon BC's death. And both cades and sando were basically vigs. I could see not killing me if there was a chance BC would protect me again in order to stay alive. I also wasn't a big threat to the scum because they knew I would be coming out D2 going after bogre. I can see not killing BC because if he's protecting me, he's not a threat to clear another townie, and if he tries to clear another townie, he might end up killing himself, and killing him would make me 100% confirmed. I can even see not killing cades because (no offense intended here) at the time, cades really did seem like he had a much higher chance of hurting the town rather than helping. But I could see absolutely no reason to NOT kill sando. You had to be thinking he was either a CPRdoc or an sk. idk, maybe theres a chance he hits a townie, but idk... idk if as scum I'd kill an entirely unconfirmed townie and leave a weak doc, basically 2 vigs, and a mostly confirmed townie alive. Especially since you didn't have a RB why was that btw? Just curious...

And wow, only 28 pages and only around a month of playing time for a completed game. I've only played in 1 mini shorter and it was a landslide townie victory. And 1 mini of equal posts, but I think it lasted longer in real time *checked* yeah at least twice as long.

[Ellibereth]

Scum Qt?

[kyle99]

Scum Qt?

http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/Di9fynC7rjN2Z

[tubby216]

good job town, i take no credit for this at all when i replaced in you guys had it all sewn up in my opinion. good job.

[cades]

yeah, I had to sacrifice my life to get a town win, thanks a lot.

Anyway, I tried to post this really big post about how we could of won, even if no one turned up mafia N2 but in the middle of the post it went to night, so I was scared cause I knew 100% that I would die.
If sando was lying he would of killed me probably cause I would be a threat cause almost everyone knew I was town, so I wouldn't get lynched an kill him. And I knew mafia would target me.

But I really liked 2 CRP's.
Town was really helped by that.

I wonder how the game would of turned out if I never claimed CPR.
Cause Sando was being targeted then.

URoE, and Kyle both hated me the whole game, so now for my next game I will kill whoever hates me as they must be mafia hehe.

parama I killed you cause you were the only active person who didn't vote URoE.

But it all turned out good cause we were 90% positive 1 of the 3, Tubby, Bogre, or Kyle would be mafia. So we went with that. And that would only leave us with Sando as SK if none of them died, so Town all but killed that game.

But when I was reading and it said Mafia roleblockers won, I was like, what the heck happened?
Blood played stupid going after Sando, cause almost everyone thought he was SK if he wasn't town, so you would of died leaving 3. If you would of blocked me either I would of been saved, or nothing would of happened.

But everyone that claimed was true other than URoE.
But believe he was cop was a little outstretched. That would of gave town 2 cprs, weak doc, and cop and town would of really killed.
But I was going to kill URoE N1, cause I was hoping Elibereth was going to die cause I figured one of those was going to be mafia, so I was going to target 1 depending on who died, and what they were.

Sando, why did you go Blood.
If no one would of turned up mafia you would of been targeted, and Tubby could of been mafia.

[Sando]

Killing Blood definitely confirmed Rhino, since Blood obviously wasn't RBd N0. I thought RB unlikely and so it probably cleared Fishy. And no, I doubt people would have gone for me if we hadn't hit Kyle, I was definitely not scum, and if I was an SK and we lynched scum I couldn't win with my NK, so it would have been silly for town to lynch me.

Basically, I figured killing blood made Rhinox 100% compared to both Blood and Rhinox being probable townies.

[cades]

I would of went for you if I was still alive.
Cause I would know that you killed the weak doc, cause I know who I would of killed, and Mafia probably would of been gone by now.

wouldn't it of been strange if you were SK, I was still CPR, and someone was mafia and those 3 made it into the last night.
Either no one wins, or 1 wins.

Or 1 forgets to vote and both jump on him.
Or 2 forget to vote, but that would be cool.

BTW who would win if all died?
And those were the main roles.

[UnofficialRulerOfEveryone]

Good job town, but tbh I had little help from my scumbuddies (Sorry kyle, you at least weasled out of your lynch, but bad NK decision) and I was lynched for a completely logic-free reason.

Didn't help that one of them killed Rhinox without a whole lot of discussion N0 and then they decided NOT to kill a CPR doc N1.

[danakillsu]

Yeah my kill on Dana really through the game open for town. This was poor play from Dana, you cannot lurk in a game with basically 2 vigs.

Not killing a CPR doc though on N1, that was a very odd and in hindsight bad choice, how come?

Sorry, sando. Wasn't trying to lurk. I had a long time where I couldn't post here. I'm back, but this game was a casualty. Thankfully, I don't have to put this game on my running record, since I wasn't able to play it.

[EmpTyger]

A last post is a secret about a secret. The more it tells you the less you know.

[StrangerCoug]

Sorting bump.